FAB 2. Trades The Bucs Should Explore

Bucs general manager Jason Licht and head coach Bruce Arians have both said that not all of the players that will comprise the 53-man roster are in Tampa Bay at the present time. The Bucs will look to add a few more players prior to the start of the 2019 regular season, including a potential starter or two.

Regardless of what the team thinks, I believe Tampa Bay could use more veteran talent along the offensive line, in the secondary and in the running back stable, in addition to a proven edge rusher to help with the loss of outside linebacker Jason Pierre-Paul, who suffered a fractured neck in a car crash in May, which has his 2019 season in doubt. The injury could also be career-ending for the 30-year pass rusher.

Bucs DE Jason Pierre-Paul - Photo by: Getty Images
Bucs DE Jason Pierre-Paul – Photo by: Getty Images

So with that said, here are a couple of trades that the Bucs should possibly explore prior to training camp. I say “should” because I don’t necessarily think Tampa Bay will pursue these players.

According to OverTheCap.com, the Buccaneers have approximately $7.97 million in salary cap space after Mike Evans’ contract was restructured earlier this week. Of course Tampa Bay still needs to sign first-round pick Devin White and that will take up a good chunk of the available room. Oakland just signed its first-round pick, defensive end Clelin Ferrell, to a four-year deal worth $31.2 million, including a $20.8 million signing bonus. Ferrell’s deal averages $7.8 million per year and is fully guaranteed.

In order to create salary cap room for any of the potential trades I’m proposing, the Bucs would likely need to restructure the deal of left guard Ali Marpet, who is slated to make $11.25 million this year, or release Pierre-Paul, who is scheduled to make $14.9 million in 2019. Yet with $7.5 million already guaranteed to JPP, his release would only clear $7.4 million worth of salary cap space this year.

Houston OLB Jadeveon Clowney

The Bucs would have to make some really big moves in order to fit Clowney under the salary cap. Clowney was given the franchise tag by Houston after failing to come to terms on a multi-year contract extension. Clowney is scheduled to make $15,967,200 in 2019, and Tampa Bay would have to cut Pierre-Paul and make some other salary cap moves to acquire Clowney from the Texans. The Texans are reportedly shopping him, and a FanSided article lists the Jets, Seahawks, Bills, Eagles and Raiders as potential trading partners.

Houston's Jadeveon Clowney & J.J. Watt
Houston’s Jadeveon Clowney & J.J. Watt – Photo by Getty Images

The 6-foot-5, 265-pound athletic freak was the first overall pick in the 2014 NFL Draft and only saw action in four games during his rookie season before suffering a knee injury. The South Carolina star has recorded 29 sacks and five forced fumbles over the last four seasons, including a career-high 9.5 sacks and two forced fumbles in 2017 and nine sacks and one forced fumble last year. Clowney has also scored touchdowns on fumble returns in each of the past two seasons.

Clowney, 26, would replace Pierre-Paul in Tampa Bay as the weakside linebacker. He has plenty of experience playing in a 3-4 defense in Houston, but is Clowney worth over $15 million? Perhaps, considering he’s four years younger than JPP and healthier.

The problem with acquiring Clowney for the Bucs is not just the salary cap space that would need to be cleared. It would also be the compensation, as Houston would likely want at least a first-round pick in 2020. That’s likely too rich for Tampa Bay.

Cardinals CB Patrick Peterson

New Bucs head coach Bruce Arians loves Peterson, who was one of his favorite players in Arizona. At age 29 Peterson is still one of the best cover corners in the NFL. Last year, he recorded 54 tackles, five pass breakups, two interceptions, one sack and one fumble recovery, and has 385 tackles, 76 pass breakups, 23 interceptions, three sacks, three fumble recoveries, two blocked kicks, one forced fumble and one touchdown in his eight-year NFL career.

The 6-foot-1, 203-pound Peterson has already played in Todd Bowles’ press-man scheme and thrived in it, recording six interceptions over two years from 2013-14 when Bowles ran Arizona’s defense. He could do wonders for Tampa Bay’s young stable of cornerbacks as a mentor, and with the Cardinals in a rebuilding mode with new head coach Kliff Kingsbury, Arizona could be interested in shopping the eight-time Pro Bowl cornerback, who will miss the first six games of the 2019 season with a PED suspension.

Cardinals CB Patrick Peterson
Cardinals CB Patrick Peterson – Photo by: Getty Images

Peterson is set to earn $11 million in 2019 and $12.05 million in 2020, which is the final year of his contract. But he’ll only cost the Cardinals – or the Bucs if they were to acquire him in a trade – $6.875 million this season due to being fined by the league for the first six games of his suspension. That salary reduction could make trading for Peterson even more attractive for the salary cap-strapped Bucs.

The Cardinals would likely want a premium draft pick for Peterson, but if I’m general manager Jason Licht I’m calling Arizona to offer up a third-round pick in 2020. Peterson has several years left in the tank and could aid the team down the stretch once he returns from his suspension if the Bucs were in position to make a playoff run during the 2019 season. Just as important, if the Bucs acquired Peterson in a trade they wouldn’t have to face him when the Cardinals visit Tampa Bay in November.

Browns RB Duke Johnson

The Browns have a surplus of running backs after drafting Nick Chubb in the second round last year and acquiring the league’s 2016 NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year Kareem Hunt this offseason, which was another bold move considering that he was released by Kansas City last November after video of him assaulting a woman surfaced. The running back that may be on the way out is Duke Johnson, who averaged 5.0 yards per carry last year with 40 carries for 201 yards. 299 carries for 1,286 yards (4.3 avg.) and five touchdowns since entering the league as a third-round pick in 2015.

Johnson, 25, wants an opportunity for more touches and won’t get that behind Chubb and Hunt. The Bucs could bolster their backfield and have the need for a pass-catching running back to compete with Andre Ellington and Ronald Jones II behind starter Peyton Barber, who is the only real accomplished running back on the team outside of Ellington, who is trying to revive his NFL career after sitting out last year due to injuries after an ineffective stint in Houston in 2017.

Bucs RBs Ronald Jones II and Peyton Barber
Bucs RBs Ronald Jones II and Peyton Barber – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Johnson is an accomplished receiver out of the backfield with 47 catches for 429 yards (9.3 avg.) and three touchdowns last year. The Miami product has 235 passes for 2,170 yards (9.2 avg.) and eight touchdowns in his four-year Browns career.

If the Bucs wanted to pry Johnson free from the Browns it would likely take a mid-round pick in 2020. Johnson signed a three-year, $15.6 million contract extension with the Browns in 2018. He’s set to earn $1.8 million this season, $3.6 million next year and $4.65 million in 2021.

Redskins RB Samaje Perine

Johnson isn’t the only running back that makes sense for the Bucs. The 23-year old Perine finished his Oklahoma career as the Sooners’ all-time leading rusher. He was a fourth-round pick by the Redskins in 2017 and is slated to be the No. 3 running back on Washington’s depth chart behind starter Adrian Peterson and Derrius Guice, who was a second-round pick in the 2018 draft. The Redskins also have Chris Thompson and just spent a fourth-round pick on Stanford running back Bryce Love, so there is plenty of depth without Perine.

The 5-foot-11, 233-pound Perine is built like Peyton Barber and rushed for 603 yards and one touchdown on 175 carries (3.4 avg.) as a rookie, in addition to catching 22 passes for 182 yards (8.3 avg.) and another score. Last year Perine was often a healthy scratch and was only active for five games, rushing for 32 yards on eight carries (4.0 avg.) and catching three passes for five yards (1.7 avg.).

Oklahoma RB Samaje Perine
Oklahoma RB Samaje Perine – Photo courtesy of Univ. of Oklahoma

Washington head coach Jay Gruden has talked up Perine this offseason, saying he’s been one of the most impressive Redskins this spring, but that could be just to generate trade interest. Perine has two years left on his rookie deal, earning $645,000 this year and $735,000 in 2020.

If the Bucs were interested it would have to be from his college tape at Oklahoma and his rookie year. He could probably be had for a Day 3 pick in the 2020 draft.

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51 COMMENTS

  1. Slow news day so PW writes more about McCoy
    McCoy is Panther let them write about him .
    Move on

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  2. I agree with the overwhelming majority here. McCoy is acting like a big baby. He didnt get disrespected. He was playing below par levels. He produced fair results. Not stellar. If he was asked to take a pay cut, a tre home town fellow would have taken it in stride! He made his money over the years. Acting like he was owed something is ridiculous! We will see that his play will not be much better in Carolina. I had respect for this man before he left. His own reaction and words have tainted all of it. Big baby needs to put on his big boy pants and stop prancing around like a bitch in a Batman suit. Sick of the coddling this man is getting. Grow up, Gerald! You could have stayed a Buc. You chose not to. Even though Licht is the biggest moron in anybfront office, this has to be the bst decision in this situation. Gerald is a mediocre Buc at best. He doesnt belong in the ring of honor. Maybe they should add a “ring of dishonor” in every urinal at the stadium with Gerald’s name smack in it! I’m glad the Bucs gave Suh his number. It shows that the Bucs moved on and so will I. Gerald had the chance to stay. His inability to take a pay cut shows his selfishness. I think GMC could have even suggested it himself. He could have volunteered to take the pay cut, which many pro athletes have done for THEIR HOME TOWN TEAMS! I’M CALLING GERALD A LOAD OF BS!

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  3. PS.
    His pay rate now reflects the proof of his potential and the respect he deserves…. lower and less!

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  4. Well Scott, at least YOU admit it. This franchise has had a history of..Bad breakups..the way they have done good players. And for the most part, it came back to bite us in the Butt in the form of that player either winning a championship or having steller yrs they did not..have with the Bucs. And lets face it, MOST..losing teams don’t..have Great players. And I personally do not blame GMC for wanting his money. Hell, I would too!My guess is the Bucs offer was extremely low ball for him and he left. And yes, we could have handled the situation a hella lot better. But its all water under the bridge. As I’ve repeated countless times, Let hope and pray we start winning so…The fans do not have to single out a couple of fresh scapegoats every year.Losing teams do this..you know..every single year. Please start winning Bucs..PLEASE?

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  5. “I believe the reason why he didn’t take a pay cut wasn’t over dollars and cents, rather it was about his perceived value to the team. I’m guessing McCoy believed he was worth $13 million in principle, and due to his importance within the organization and his longevity with the franchise, he shouldn’t have to take a pay cut.”

    “His perceived value”? The Bucs haven’t made the playoffs the whole time he was here. If $13 million gets you one of the consistently softest defenses in NFL History (that he always said he was the leader of and a team/unit tends to take on the personality of it’s leader ) and out of playoff contention by late October most years, how much would he think he would be worth if they had won the Super Bowl? Granted, he only played a part in the Buccaneers ineptitude, it wasn’t all his fault, but we can NOT make the playoffs without him and save all or part of that salary and hopefully get players who can get us somewhere other than the basement.

    And don’t give me this BS about what a good guy he is, what a forgiving Christian he is when he could’ve gone anywhere and he chose to stay in the division with a team that’s having it’s own problems for probably what he would’ve made here if had taken the pay cut. It’s all about revenge. F*ck McCoy.

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  6. You could wipe your ass with an entire roll of tp and it still wouldn’t be as soft as gerald is. The dude is a child I’m a mans body, good riddance. If he wants to learn disrespect and bad fan response, tell him to look at any article with Jameis in it. Glad hes a panther, if I’m the bucs im running right at his soft ass every other play. And if it wasnt about the money as he says, hed still be here.
    As for trades, that DE from the jags is holding out as well. Averages 8.5 sacks a year and is only 24. Make a move and grab him bucs.
    As for next years draft way to early to tell, but I am not a Tua fan. I would take from over him all day. Look at Tua the second half of the season when Alabama actually played someone. He was average at best. Easy to look good when bamas schedule is as soft as gerald. You want a qb ,you bomb 2 years from now for trevorLawrence, that kid is special,

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  7. I know most are sick of reading about GMC – it’s been the 2nd biggest offseason story next to hiring of Arians. The Bucs and specifically Licht could have reported that a salary cut was offered but instead said “no comment” and that their conversations with him would remain private. They did this out of RESPECT for GMC……many of us would have jumped off his bandwagon months ago had we known.

    Lastly, in regards to the Ring of Honor, he’s presumptuous as well as clueless…….he is way down on the list behind Nickerson, Rice, Kiffin, Wilder, etc, and I dont recall any of the existing honorees that left here to play (or coach) for a division rival. It will take this Bucs fan several years to get over that decision.

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  8. This is the exact reason I don’t understand why a contract value escalates as the player ages instead of decreases. Is it to set up the organization with a justifiable reason to release a player before the contract expires? Maybe Macabee can help explain this.

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    • Bucianco, it depends on whether a contract is front-loaded or back-loaded. Remember the contract value or worth is the same for the duration of the contract. What may differ is how it’s paid. And no employment contract can be changed without the agreement of the parties – either express (in writing or verbally agreed to) or implied (by the actions of the parties).

      The idea of front-loading contracts is simple. You pay a player for his good years and as the contract goes on, the salary decreases. The concept is not meant to save anyone money and it does decrease short term payroll flexibility, but can benefit a team in the latter years of a deal. Usually front-loaded contracts have a big signing bonus with workout and roster bonuses included in the early term of the contract

      A back-loaded contract is just the opposite. Agreement or arrangement in which the heavier charges are levied, or greater benefits accrue, towards the end of its duration or term. A signing bonus may have been given, but is spread over the term which requires more money is paid at the end. Think of it like a jumbo mortgage loan where the payments are lower at the beginning and one large payment (jumbo) is due at the end. The house may be sold before the jumbo is due.

      Typically back-loaded contracts whose payments increase over time may not to go to term. They are usually 2nd contracts given to veteran or ageing players whose play may decline over the term of the contract. The contract is terminated before it reaches maturity. NFL player contracts are not guaranteed. Only the money is guaranteed. Do not be misled. A 5 year contract where the money is only guaranteed in the first 2 years is really a 2 year contract. Actually, an NFL contract can be terminated the day after it is signed, only the guaranteed money must be paid.

      Contracts can be normal – neither frontloaded nor backloaded. It depends on the team practice or MO, whether the player is a rookie or veteran, term of contract or cap space. Go Bucs!

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  9. McCoy comes off as very petty in this whole situation. He was a good/occasionally great player in Tampa, but not an all-timer. Fourth in sacks, one all pro, and zero playoff appearances are not enough to warrant getting your jersey retired. Be happy for the $100M+ the Glazers paid for your services and stop talking about being disrespected.

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  10. Could article Scott. I am puzzled though as to why you thought it was necessary to bring up next year’s 2020 first draft pick to be a quarterback? I see no reason at this point in time why Winston will not be our quarterback in 2020.

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  11. McCoy is a jackass. He looks ridiculous. All about stupid constumes and image. He is soft as a baby’s ass and he is a big cry baby. Good riddance.

    Dotsons comment it’s little better on the knee doesn’t make me feel good. If they have any money left they would be nuts not to spend it on O line!

    Another RB sure I get that but that and DE is not nearly as critical imo.

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  12. I’m not going to make a comment about McCoy. He’s gone, and there isn’t any point in saying anymore. I will comment about Dotson though. We should’ve picked Risner in the second round. I think he would’ve been an immediate upgrade at RT. Dotson is supposedly healthy this year, but mark my words, he won’t last the season. Truth be told he was done last year. Thinking they can make a rode trip on that bald tire could prove dangerous. Don’t like any of Scott’s trade proposals. Big mistake not picking Henderson in the 3rd round this year trading the pick to L.A.. The Rams have one of the best backs in the NFL, and saw his value. We had one of the worst rushing attacks in the league, with no star in the backfield, and Licht let a steal in the 3rd round go to the Rams. Not replacing Dotson, and not drafting Henderson IMO was a big mistake this year.

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  13. Oh one other point. Dotson said Warhop drove the point home that the O line needed to finish better, but for some reason we didn’t listen. We’ve all given Warhop grief for being a bad coach, but this sounds like the players have a big hand in not getting the job done. We have a lot of money invested in Smith, Marpet, and Jensen. It’s time to live up to your contracts big fella’s, No more excuses, no more hiding behind bad coaching.

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  14. Yo McKoy is Robin without Batman & the rest of the Justice league. He was never Sapp. Ownership never put consistent coaches & scheme along with teammates that he needed. He needs grow up & realize he is rotational player with the Panthers. He got off field honors while in Tampa by default. I like either RB if waived. Peterson at a discount & contract restructure, due to his suspension. Leave the Collins kid alone way to many what ifs. Who cares about mock draft next year. Jake Fromm? Maybe if Jameis gets in more alleged misconduct trouble. This is after the Kraft double standard in Jupiter Florida during playoff run last year with video tape proof with human traffiking investigations on going. The difference between Black QB & white owner.

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  15. It wasn’t about money? It was about his perceived value to the team? So, how is that not about money? So, if the Bucs had offered McCoy 15 million per year, he would have said, “Thanks, guys! I just wanted to know how much I was worth to you. I don’t need that much. Five million per year is enough.”
    And, what is it that McCoy doesn’t understand about non-guaranteed money? The Bucs were under no obligation to pay him 13 million a year. That’s why the money was not guaranteed.

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  16. McCoy says,“Well, six Pro Bowls, All-Pro four times – this is Tampa Bay, and I’m one of the best players to ever play in the organization. I’m going to say it. Usually I wouldn’t, so what? It kind of shows the respect and how they feel about me. I think it does.”

    He is right.

    For nine years McCoy, as team captain and a so called team leader, led one of the worst defenses in the NFL never raising the play or inspiring any of his fellow teammates.
    It took BA to play two games against the Bucs and awhile to watch game film to diagnose what one of the core problems was.
    That’s why MeShawn Jackson and McCoy are no longer here.

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  17. Agree Jackson not worth trouble and McCoy is a rotation player. He will be cut 2020 by panthers after he misses few games 2019 with injury, is average against run, and maybe gets 3-5 sacks.

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  18. If you think Mccoy is good value for 8 million panthers gave him your an idiot. I hate the Panthers and pouty cry baby Cam who is horrible passer when run isn’t working great and inconsistent.

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  19. Well….maybe Scott.

    Maybe this was all part of some grand scheme Jason Licht has been hatching for years. Maybe he has always wanted Suh instead of McCoy and has been searching for the optimal moment to pull the string and make the switch. Maybe he purposely let Suh pass by last time around because his deep analysis of the situation was that the timing wasn’t right. Maybe he brilliantly used the offer of a salary cut, knowing McCoy would refuse, so that he could blame everything on McCoy – “I tried really hard to keep him but he was just so darn greedy that we had to let him go”. Maybe he knew that Suh would never be able to refuse his $9m offer to come and play for the Bucs, as he toyed with McCoy completely confident in the unveiling of his master plan. Maybe.

    Or maybe, he got caught with his pants down (having never planned for the possibility that the contract HE made with McCoy for $13m might become a problem some day)…and maybe he expected McCoy to take a pay cut (as you said it never seemed to be about money, so maybe Licht thought it wouldn’t be – certainly not for $3-5m as you say)…and maybe McCoy’s refusal came as a shock to Licht….and maybe he was forced to call Suh’s agent and make an offer, higher than any other team would offer, so as to not have egg on his face….because maybe, Suh refused the first low-ball offer (or two)….maybe.

    One of those stories fits nicely with the 5-year track record of our GM, and was doesn’t….but maybe…

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  20. Hmmm maybe, or Maybe McCoy stinks and is soft and Arians didn’t want him. Maybe he was overpaid and his play last few years has declined. Maybe they were waiting to cut him but wanted to make sure didn’t hang themselves this year without enough DT depth…..

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  21. McCoy is gone and no need to trash him.
    Like I said before I wish him the best except when he’s playing the Bucs.

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  22. I think you guys are all wrong. The Bucs are a bad team. Sorry guys, but its true. There’s no conceivable path for them to win a Super Bowl in the next 5 years. Hell, I don’t even think they have much of a chance of making the playoffs any time soon. That’s why the bucs have to overpay for free agents every year. If I’m Gerald McCoy (or anybody else), why would I stay in Tampa for the same money that I can get from a better team? I laughed out loud when Scott wrote: “In essence, McCoy brought this all on himself. Had he taken the pay cut … McCoy would be a Buccaneer and not a Panther today”. Brought what on himself Scott? The chance to win more than 6 games and play in the playoffs for the first time in his career?

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  23. It’s a very bad look for him. Had the Panthers offered up $13m then he has a valid point. They didn’t and he doesn’t. I like him off the field, but on it…nah

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  24. I have moved on from McCoy, although I hold no ill will toward him. It’s a business and I wish him the best. I am a bit concerned about our running game and I like Duke Johnson. His history with BA works and a mid round pick is reasonable. This Collins kid is interesting. Way too early to name draft prospects. Finally one of my all time favorite college players, Clowney is way too expensive for Buc’s.

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  25. fredster your response seems to be directed at my post, but makes no sense.

    First off, my post says nothing about whether McCoy “stinks” or is “soft” or whether BA wanted or didn’t want him. Nor do i comment on whether he was “overpaid” or had “declined” in skill. All of those things you allude to could be true…and that doesn’t change the point of my post: that this wasn’t some great master plan by Licht to replace McCoy with Suh.

    If, as you say, Licht was just “waiting to cut [McCoy] but wanted to make sure didn’t hang themselves this year without enough DT depth”….then why didn’t he just do that?….why the charade of offering a salary cut? If, as you claim, Licht absolutely did not want McCoy…thought he had “declined”, was “soft”, “stinks” even….then why go through the process of trying to renegotiate something to get him to stay?????????????

    It may be that McCoy “stinks” – I’m not making any comment on that one way or the other. But to suggest that this all came together just as the brilliant Jason Licht had planned, is ludicrous!

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  26. Scott I’m not sure why you keep reminding us of how bad Licht wanted to sign Suh but some how settled for McCoy, when Suh was available at the start of the offseason. If they wanted Suh that badly as you say why even make McCoy an offer to begin with. Instead they let this thing fester out of control as we went through FA and through the draft and into mini camp. This all could have been avoided if we would have released McCoy back in February. Okay yes Licht has the responsibility to try to find a trade partner or maybe you could get a 4th or 5th round pick but even that decision comes with a deadline in mind. Instead they let McCoy drag this all the way out until the end of May and what did we get for it in return? Nothing! Nothing but a disgruntled ex Buc on National TV making a fool of himself. Could McCoy have handled this situation better? Everybody knows the answer to that question. But what about BA & Licht don’t you think they bare some blame for this mess? What about their comments the week of the Owners Meeting with their non committal statements about his lack of production, or the no show during OTA’s for fear of injury guaranteeing the 13 mil. Then BA comes out and says about McCoy “He’s welcome here with open arms” knowing full well that was only contingent on if he signed the reduced offer sheet. I’m relieved McCoy is finally gone but our Front Office botched this from the beginning and there is no covering for that.

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  27. I like making a trade for Duke Johnson. Loved him at Miami and think he could add a second RB to the group that’s proven he can play.

    Would also add O line help, possibly a replacement for JPP. Patrick Peterson at 29 is still a heck of a player, just not excited about the suspension.

    Also, I love Cam Brate, but for the right price – meaning a player we need or high enough 2020 pick….. Patriots are an obvious destination…..

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  28. Scott: this is one of the best articles you’ve ever written. Spot on with all of the McCoy stuff. Vintage Pewter Report. Well done.

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  29. No need to chime in. My opinion of Gerald “Excuse Cannon” McCoy and his legion of apologists is well established.

    I’ve always admired the FEROCIOUSNESS of Suh’s game. I prayed Detroit would pass on him in the draft. Oh well, he didn’t but he’s finally a Buc.

    It’s a new day in Tampa Bay and it’s back to intimidating DEFENSE. David, White, Vea, Suh, Barrett, Nassib, and 26 cornerbacks should be fun to watch this year!

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  30. @Shuster : I get what you are saying and you aren’t wrong about the Bucs being a poorly run organization. That being said, how many times have the Bucs had a lead late in the game and we needed a sack or a turnover or a stop or SOMETHING and there’s #93 playing pattycake with whatever O-Lineman he is paired against, giving Brees/Newton/Ryan/whoever all the time in the world to get the go ahead score? He likes to say he’s Batman but whenever we really needed him, he was the Invisible Man.

    He’ll probably have a career year with the Panthers. And everyone will ask how could the Bucs let him go? I’ll be asking where was that when he wore the pewter and red?

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  31. McCoy didn’t want to take a home town discount. McCoy didn’t want to meet with the coaching staff. McCoy didn’t want to lead the defense. Connecting the dots what this tells me is that McCoy needs to focus less on perceiving himself as some type of “Batman” when he is acting like a Robin in reality.

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  32. Quick question – if nobody from the Buccaneers contacted McCoy how in the hell was there any possible way he was asked to take a pay cut?

    I dont think they wanted him around at all. The whole idea of swapping out McCoy for Suh was about changing the culture in the clubhouse.

    A soft ass McCoy is still a soft ass McCoy regardless of his salary.

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  33. Remember that one time that Gerald made a game changing play in the 4th quarter?

    Yeah…me neither

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  34. Shuster and Ass should go find a Bridge to live under together. I think they could really make each other Happy. Must be a sad life to be a Troll. I guess if you had a kick ass Bridge it wouldn’t be completely miserable, but all the Negativity would cause Blood Pressure issues and I’m not sure there is any ObamaTroll Healthcare plans available. At least they could keep each other Happy talking trash about anything people like and pretending their opinion matters to anyone but themselves.

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  35. Fredster, great comment. Now the Panthers have a big baby on both sides of the balls.
    If you want to see how a real football player plays, look at the Steelers-Panthers game last year.
    JJ Watts younger brother, who plays OLB for the Steelers, went right for Cams throwing shoulder on a sack in the first half of the game. Cam wasn’t the same for the rest of the game or the season.
    If you don’t think there are a big number of players in the NFL who wouldn’t have done the same thing, you are naive.
    Does anyone thing Geraldine, who is said idolize Cam, would have done the same.

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  36. First thing these kids learn coming from college to the pros is that the NFL is a huge and successful business. In fact, it’s common knowledge that the N-F-L stands for “not for long”. McCoy wanted/demanded respect due to his longevity with team and his Pro Bowls with the team. But respect has to be earned before it can be given. McCoy saw the writing on the wall. JPP called him out and his teammates did not believe he should be a team captain. For me, as a former player, this is the most crucial knock on McCoy. How can you be a 9 year vet for your team with several Pro Bowls and yet your teammates don’t think you should be a team captain! Nuff said. McCoy was soft. Mentally and physically. Suh brings an entirely different vibe to the DL. He is feared! He doesn’t tell the other teams to fear him because he is the dominant alpha male but they do! It’s because he EARNED it! Good or bad! There was trouble brewing with McCoy. He knew it and the team knew it. Salary exceeds production! Nothing personal Gerald, it’s just business. The Bucs replaced you with a more dominant player for 3 1/2 million less. Feelings aside that’s just good business… I’m just saying

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  37. I don’t have a problem with the Licht trying to get whatever he could get in a trade for McCoy and exhausting every avenue before releasing him. What I do have a problem with, however, is local media like PR saying the team owes nothing at all to a player and the only consideration is what’s good for the organization with no other care being given besides the bottom line. This is completely hypocritical because EVERY time a player takes a stand regarding contract demands and uses every means at his disposal to maximize his income, including holding out and/or demanding a trade, local media get all worked up about it. Typically they resort to saying things like the player “owes” the organization because they’ve been so “good” to him over the years. Or they’ll bitch about how the player is making life difficult for the team by being so stringent in pursuing circumstances that are of maximum benefit to his position and of minimum benefit to the franchise. This kind of hypocrisy is what pisses me off. If one side can pursue their own interests and damn the consequences, then the players can do the same WITHOUT having their character questioned in the media. If you question a player’s character and his decision to exercise every right at his disposal, then you BETTER DAMN WELL criticize the organization when it does the same thing. Local media should be balanced in its approach, and if not then it’s our right as readers to question their integrity just as they question that of certain players whom they deem to be unbalanced in their demands or actions.

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  38. @bucballer: What you stated says it all in my view. JPP called out McCoy, (albeit showing him some respect by not mentioning his name). The team didn’t elect McCoy as a Captain. Bruce Arians and staff’s evaluated his film and concluded that the former #93 wasn’t worth his lofty salary. Evidently some conversations took place with McCoy’s agent about a potential pay reduction that was refused. That set the team’s course of action. Nothing more to say Geraldini.

    Seems to me, McCoy should have apologized and returned some of the salary he didn’t earn. A player is not worth respect and over-compensation simply because he believes he’s special. He rested on his laurels long enough. Gerald should admit, as the song goes, “I ain’t as good as I once was” or that Jeff Foxworthy one liner, “I used to could”.

    I’ll be in London for the Bucs “home” game against the Panthers. Sure will be nice to see Geraldini and Cam Poutin sobbing with the towels over their heads.

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  39. Scubog… “I ain’t as good as I once was” classic quote bro! Good one!

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  40. I agree with most everything posted above on McCoy. I thought McCoy was a good player but never a great player. He was Never Close to being one of the Best Bucs Ever.I respected him till now. I lost ALL respect. Just another spoiled overpaid (All are not overpaid, McCoy was) NFL player that thinks his worth more then he was. He NEVER elevated the Defense with his play.EVER! I remember one game in 9 YEARS he got a sack in the 4th Qtr to close out a game. ONE N 9 YEARS AND HE FEELS DISRESPECTED? Glad he left now. Bucs paid him over $100 Million and he feels disrespected? He was NEVER worth the last contract he got. He doesn’t even deserve to wear Robins tights. Ring of Honor? Hahaha What a joke. I could care less if he ever comes back to visit when he’s retired. Actually Don’t Come Back!!!
    GO BUCS!!!

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  41. Why are we still writing, and posting, about McCoy? What about this quote from Dotson –

    “It’s [the knee injury] a little better now, though. I worked hard all offseason trying to rehab it… It’s something I have to stay on top of. It’s not going to get back to 100 percent. Hopefully they take care of me a little bit in training camp and give me some rest here and there and I can preserve it as best I can for the season.”

    Ladies & gentlemen, that is your soon to be 34 yr old starting RT talking, after we completely ignored the OL in the draft. Is anyone here paying any attention? Oh, yeah let’s talk about RBs we should trade for…

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  42. Enjoyed reading, Scott. Well-worded commentary on the GMC affairs this week.

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  43. I was all about McCoy when we drafted him. Always had his back, but then you started to see that he was more concerned about being a nice guy, being seen as batman, and apologizing to qbs for hitting them.. . He did a lot of good things in the community and that imo is more important than his accomplishments on the field, but when you’re talking about Gerald McCoy the football player, I would have to say he never lived up to be the player he could have been because he never played with aggression. He never was clutch, he never made the play when we needed him too, and our defense was never in the top 10 when he was here. Hell Chris hovan and Jovan Hayes were on more highly touted defenses than McCoy. Granted we had Monte kiffin, but none the less they still were a part of a higher ranked defense. Bottom line is McCoy was asked to take a pay cut, refused, and the bucs moved on to suh who fits our new scheme significantly more than McCoy. suh brings the alpha dog vibe that a true Batman brings rather than the side kick boy wonder vibe that McCoy brought. McCoy can feel disrespected all he wants. He’s a cry baby. Always has been, always will be. Him and Newton can play super girl and boy wonder together like McCoy has always wanted.

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  44. I wish McCoy good luck in Carolina except for the two games vs the Bucs. I have posted my opinion on him several times as won’t rehash it again

    McCoy has created all this drama and for what. It has made him look petty and selfish. The whole interview he contradicted himself. The new coach never talked to him but they did. They never wanted to renegotiate but he admitted they did. so on and so on. Man let it go. The Bucs have moved on so should McCoy and ball washers in the media (not PR) who are all butt hurt because he is no longer here.

    Lets focus on the guys who are here, cheer for the guys who are here and hope this season is better that the last two.

    Go Bucs

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  45. Boy, Reading what McCoy said really set me off yesterday. Stuff like that just makes me less of a fan of sports. Some players only really care about there team if there making enough money or get some amount of respect they think they deserve. As soon as they think there disrespected, they mouth off about the team that us Fans love which just makes it hard to care about them as a Fan. Yeah owners only worry about the team (most of the time) but it’s hard to be a Fan when some players only worry about themselves then the Fans that that really pay there salary by supporting there teams. Yeah not all the money comes directly from the Fans but without Fans there is no money for any of them. Over time i will probably welcome him back but still glad he is gone. GO BUCS!!!

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  46. Macabee, nice explanation of contract law. You write like a teacher of business law.

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  47. Bucballer- but I’m as good once as I always was.

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  48. Do you want some cheese with that whine? Yes Mr. McCoy you were a great player and a credit to Tampa Bay area. And yes the fans supported you. Other Buccaneer players have made sacrifices to stay with the team and guess what, they did not act like 5 year olds in doing so. You can not tell me that you could not have worked out some solution to this paycut debacle with the team if you wanted to stay. Yes I know I do not know the whole story. What I do know is that communication is key. Apparently that was not an option with you. As far as your number 93 is concerned, Suh also wore 93, so what? It happens every day in the NFL in case you have not noticed. You are a Panther now so move on, grow up and good luck. Thanks for all you did here in Tampa Bay. If you really want to stick it to the Bucs and the fans and I know you do, just reject your induction to the Ring of Honor when asked!!!

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  49. So Scott acted like a typical asshole reporter asking a misleading question designed to make a player no longer with the team look bad, so that he can keep up his “team access” by sucking up to the current Bucs regime and dickhead “fans” who aren’t fit to polish McCoy’s ass.

    Here is the real question that was obviously the reasoning behind McCoy’s reaction, just as he said, but with less specificity:

    Bucs offered McCoy a “pay cut” rather than a “restructure”.

    So what is the difference, and why is it significant?

    A pay cut is just that – a cut in pay, and no other compensating factors offered to induce the player to accept the pay cut. A pay cut is total disrespect heaped upon the player.

    A restructures is also just that: a pay cut in the short term, but with incentives to possibly earn back the original pay, in return for an extended contract. Which is precisely what a team would do when they respect the player and value his contributions to the team, both past and future.

    Obviously the money was not the issue – it was the total lack of respect shown by the jerkoff who run the Bucs these days.

    I expect to get dozens of downvotes from the typical asshole Bucs fans here who have no class and disrespect everyone who is no longer with the team, no matter how much they have contributed/

    I don’t care – downvote me and my comment all you like. I wear it like a badge of honor.

    There is no honor at Pewter Report, and there is no honor among the majority of the commenters at Pewter Report, as witnessed by the comments so many, but not all, post here, about McCoy.

    Meh – that’s typical behavior for people that call themselves sports fans. No honor, no class, just rah rah boosterism.

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  50. Took me a while to get over the Bucs giving away Nickersons #56. Especially to a league average player. His number should not have been giving to anyone. He’s a legend on the Bucs and his number should be retired. But that’s my opinion

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