FAB 3. Bucs Should Investigate RB Collins

Instead of burning a draft pick on a trade for another running back, the Bucs might be wise to investigate the situation regarding former Baltimore runner Alex Collins, who was the team’s leading rusher in 2017 with nearly 1,000 yards. Collins was arrested on March 1 on marijuana possession and firearms possession charges following a car crash, and subsequently released by the Ravens.

Here are details from Collins’ arrest from a report on NFL.com.

According to a Baltimore County police report, officers responded to a call for a car crash on Dolfield Road at 6:48 a.m. local time. The location was roughly a mile away from the Ravens’ facility. During the course of their crash investigation, officers detected the odor of marijuana inside the vehicle, and an ensuing probable-cause search revealed a large glass jar containing approximately five ounces of marijuana. A handgun was also recovered from the vehicle. Collins was placed under arrest.

According to Collins in the report, he was on his way to drop a friend off at home when he lost control of his vehicle on the snow-covered road, sliding off the pavement and into a tree. Collins called for a tow truck but fell asleep in the vehicle while the friend chose to walk the rest of the way home. Neither were injured in the crash.

Collins was released on a $7,500 posted bond just after midnight late Friday night, and formally charged with possession with intent to distribute, possession of marijuana in excess of 10 grams and possession of a handgun in vehicle.

Collins has yet to sign with an NFL team, and likely faces a league suspension of some kind due to his arrest once his legal matter is resolved, but to a running back-needy team like Tampa Bay, he might be worth investigating and taking a chance on. I liked him coming out of Arkansas in the 2016 draft, following three straight 1,000-yard seasons with the Razorbacks, including a 1,577-yard, 20-touchdown campaign as a junior.

I was at the 2015 Liberty Bowl where I saw Collins run roughshod over my Kansas State Wildcats for 185 yards and three touchdowns on 23 carries (8.0 avg.) in his final game for the Razorbacks. That was one of 10 100-yard rushing games Collins had that season.

Seattle drafted the 5-foot-11, 215-pound Collins in the fifth round in 2016 where he rushed for 125 yards and one touchdown on 31 carries as a rookie, along with 11 catches for 84 yards (7.6 avg.). The Ravens signed Collins to their practice squad after his release by the Seahawks on September 5, 2017.

In his first year with Baltimore, Collins rushed for 973 yards and six touchdowns on 212 carries (4.6 avg.) with six touchdowns, along with 23 catches for 187 yards (8.1 avg). Last year, Collins, a native of Plantation, Fla., rushed for 411 yards and seven scores on 114 carries (3.6 avg.), in addition to catching 15 passes for 105 yards (7.0 avg.) and one TD despite suffering a foot injury in October that eventually led him to be placed on injured reserve on December 1.

Ravens undrafted free agent rookie Gus Edwards emerged as the starter in early November, rushing for 718 yards and four touchdowns on 137 carries (5.2 avg.). Edwards took over for Collins down the stretch and posted three 100-yard games, including 104 yards and a touchdown on 19 carries (5.5 avg.) against Tampa Bay in a 20-12 win on December 16.

The Ravens also have a capable back in Kenneth Dixon, who rushed for 333 yards and two scores on 60 carries (5.6 avg.), which made Collins expendable. Shortly after Collins’ release, Baltimore signed veteran Mark Ingram II and also selected running back Justice Hill in the 2019 NFL Draft.

If Collins’ foot injury has healed and he’s learned a lesson and changed his ways from his March arrest, he could be a quality find for the Bucs if he can recapture his 2017 form. Collins had seven games with 70 yards or more in 2017, including 113 yards with two receptions for 30 yards in a 40-0 win against Miami and 120 yards and one touchdown with two catches for 46 yards in a 39-38 loss at Pittsburgh.

While taking a look at Collins’ highlights, watch the trench battle between Bucs center Ryan Jensen, who played for the Ravens at the time, and defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh, who played for the Dolphins.

The Bucs could use another experienced chain-moving, all-purpose back to contend for a roster spot. Tampa Bay’s front office could ask Jensen and Breshad Perriman, who both played with Collins in Baltimore, about his character to see if he’s worth pursuing or not.

What I like about Collins when healthy is his footwork and his slashing running style. He has a good, elusive shake that allows him to slip tackles, and good hands in the passing game.

Collins also has a nose for the end zone, which is important as the Bucs strive to improve their red zone scoring production this season. Collins has 14 career rushing touchdowns and one receiving TD in 36 games over three years, while Tampa Bay’s most accomplished scoring back is veteran Andre Ellington, who has 10 career rushing TDs and three receiving TDs in 65 games over six years in the league.

Starting running back Peyton Barber has totaled nine rushing TDs in 47 games over three years, including a career-high five last year, in addition to one receiving score. Ronald Jones II has just one rushing TD.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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BUC-ASS-BOB

Slow news day so PW writes more about McCoy
McCoy is Panther let them write about him .
Move on

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TysonsFury

I agree with the overwhelming majority here. McCoy is acting like a big baby. He didnt get disrespected. He was playing below par levels. He produced fair results. Not stellar. If he was asked to take a pay cut, a tre home town fellow would have taken it in stride! He made his money over the years. Acting like he was owed something is ridiculous! We will see that his play will not be much better in Carolina. I had respect for this man before he left. His own reaction and words have tainted all of it. Big baby needs… Read more »

TysonsFury

PS.
His pay rate now reflects the proof of his potential and the respect he deserves…. lower and less!

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twspin

Well Scott, at least YOU admit it. This franchise has had a history of..Bad breakups..the way they have done good players. And for the most part, it came back to bite us in the Butt in the form of that player either winning a championship or having steller yrs they did not..have with the Bucs. And lets face it, MOST..losing teams don’t..have Great players. And I personally do not blame GMC for wanting his money. Hell, I would too!My guess is the Bucs offer was extremely low ball for him and he left. And yes, we could have handled the… Read more »

Sector2814

“I believe the reason why he didn’t take a pay cut wasn’t over dollars and cents, rather it was about his perceived value to the team. I’m guessing McCoy believed he was worth $13 million in principle, and due to his importance within the organization and his longevity with the franchise, he shouldn’t have to take a pay cut.” “His perceived value”? The Bucs haven’t made the playoffs the whole time he was here. If $13 million gets you one of the consistently softest defenses in NFL History (that he always said he was the leader of and a team/unit… Read more »

cgmaster27

You could wipe your ass with an entire roll of tp and it still wouldn’t be as soft as gerald is. The dude is a child I’m a mans body, good riddance. If he wants to learn disrespect and bad fan response, tell him to look at any article with Jameis in it. Glad hes a panther, if I’m the bucs im running right at his soft ass every other play. And if it wasnt about the money as he says, hed still be here. As for trades, that DE from the jags is holding out as well. Averages 8.5… Read more »

BucFan circa76

I know most are sick of reading about GMC – it’s been the 2nd biggest offseason story next to hiring of Arians. The Bucs and specifically Licht could have reported that a salary cut was offered but instead said “no comment” and that their conversations with him would remain private. They did this out of RESPECT for GMC……many of us would have jumped off his bandwagon months ago had we known. Lastly, in regards to the Ring of Honor, he’s presumptuous as well as clueless…….he is way down on the list behind Nickerson, Rice, Kiffin, Wilder, etc, and I dont… Read more »

bucianco

This is the exact reason I don’t understand why a contract value escalates as the player ages instead of decreases. Is it to set up the organization with a justifiable reason to release a player before the contract expires? Maybe Macabee can help explain this.

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macabee

Bucianco, it depends on whether a contract is front-loaded or back-loaded. Remember the contract value or worth is the same for the duration of the contract. What may differ is how it’s paid. And no employment contract can be changed without the agreement of the parties – either express (in writing or verbally agreed to) or implied (by the actions of the parties). The idea of front-loading contracts is simple. You pay a player for his good years and as the contract goes on, the salary decreases. The concept is not meant to save anyone money and it does decrease… Read more »

Brandonges

McCoy comes off as very petty in this whole situation. He was a good/occasionally great player in Tampa, but not an all-timer. Fourth in sacks, one all pro, and zero playoff appearances are not enough to warrant getting your jersey retired. Be happy for the $100M+ the Glazers paid for your services and stop talking about being disrespected.

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Horse

Could article Scott. I am puzzled though as to why you thought it was necessary to bring up next year’s 2020 first draft pick to be a quarterback? I see no reason at this point in time why Winston will not be our quarterback in 2020.

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fredster

McCoy is a jackass. He looks ridiculous. All about stupid constumes and image. He is soft as a baby’s ass and he is a big cry baby. Good riddance.

Dotsons comment it’s little better on the knee doesn’t make me feel good. If they have any money left they would be nuts not to spend it on O line!

Another RB sure I get that but that and DE is not nearly as critical imo.

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surferdudes

I’m not going to make a comment about McCoy. He’s gone, and there isn’t any point in saying anymore. I will comment about Dotson though. We should’ve picked Risner in the second round. I think he would’ve been an immediate upgrade at RT. Dotson is supposedly healthy this year, but mark my words, he won’t last the season. Truth be told he was done last year. Thinking they can make a rode trip on that bald tire could prove dangerous. Don’t like any of Scott’s trade proposals. Big mistake not picking Henderson in the 3rd round this year trading the… Read more »

surferdudes

Oh one other point. Dotson said Warhop drove the point home that the O line needed to finish better, but for some reason we didn’t listen. We’ve all given Warhop grief for being a bad coach, but this sounds like the players have a big hand in not getting the job done. We have a lot of money invested in Smith, Marpet, and Jensen. It’s time to live up to your contracts big fella’s, No more excuses, no more hiding behind bad coaching.

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Yo McKoy is Robin without Batman & the rest of the Justice league. He was never Sapp. Ownership never put consistent coaches & scheme along with teammates that he needed. He needs grow up & realize he is rotational player with the Panthers. He got off field honors while in Tampa by default. I like either RB if waived. Peterson at a discount & contract restructure, due to his suspension. Leave the Collins kid alone way to many what ifs. Who cares about mock draft next year. Jake Fromm? Maybe if Jameis gets in more alleged misconduct trouble. This is… Read more »

Pete Wood

It wasn’t about money? It was about his perceived value to the team? So, how is that not about money? So, if the Bucs had offered McCoy 15 million per year, he would have said, “Thanks, guys! I just wanted to know how much I was worth to you. I don’t need that much. Five million per year is enough.” And, what is it that McCoy doesn’t understand about non-guaranteed money? The Bucs were under no obligation to pay him 13 million a year. That’s why the money was not guaranteed. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes yet.… Read more »

drdneast

McCoy says,“Well, six Pro Bowls, All-Pro four times – this is Tampa Bay, and I’m one of the best players to ever play in the organization. I’m going to say it. Usually I wouldn’t, so what? It kind of shows the respect and how they feel about me. I think it does.” He is right. For nine years McCoy, as team captain and a so called team leader, led one of the worst defenses in the NFL never raising the play or inspiring any of his fellow teammates. It took BA to play two games against the Bucs and awhile… Read more »

fredster

Agree Jackson not worth trouble and McCoy is a rotation player. He will be cut 2020 by panthers after he misses few games 2019 with injury, is average against run, and maybe gets 3-5 sacks.

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fredster

If you think Mccoy is good value for 8 million panthers gave him your an idiot. I hate the Panthers and pouty cry baby Cam who is horrible passer when run isn’t working great and inconsistent.

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EastEndBoy

Well….maybe Scott. Maybe this was all part of some grand scheme Jason Licht has been hatching for years. Maybe he has always wanted Suh instead of McCoy and has been searching for the optimal moment to pull the string and make the switch. Maybe he purposely let Suh pass by last time around because his deep analysis of the situation was that the timing wasn’t right. Maybe he brilliantly used the offer of a salary cut, knowing McCoy would refuse, so that he could blame everything on McCoy – “I tried really hard to keep him but he was just… Read more »

fredster

Hmmm maybe, or Maybe McCoy stinks and is soft and Arians didn’t want him. Maybe he was overpaid and his play last few years has declined. Maybe they were waiting to cut him but wanted to make sure didn’t hang themselves this year without enough DT depth…..

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Horse

McCoy is gone and no need to trash him.
Like I said before I wish him the best except when he’s playing the Bucs.

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shuster

I think you guys are all wrong. The Bucs are a bad team. Sorry guys, but its true. There’s no conceivable path for them to win a Super Bowl in the next 5 years. Hell, I don’t even think they have much of a chance of making the playoffs any time soon. That’s why the bucs have to overpay for free agents every year. If I’m Gerald McCoy (or anybody else), why would I stay in Tampa for the same money that I can get from a better team? I laughed out loud when Scott wrote: “In essence, McCoy brought… Read more »

ranman

It’s a very bad look for him. Had the Panthers offered up $13m then he has a valid point. They didn’t and he doesn’t. I like him off the field, but on it…nah

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martinii

I have moved on from McCoy, although I hold no ill will toward him. It’s a business and I wish him the best. I am a bit concerned about our running game and I like Duke Johnson. His history with BA works and a mid round pick is reasonable. This Collins kid is interesting. Way too early to name draft prospects. Finally one of my all time favorite college players, Clowney is way too expensive for Buc’s.

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EastEndBoy

fredster your response seems to be directed at my post, but makes no sense. First off, my post says nothing about whether McCoy “stinks” or is “soft” or whether BA wanted or didn’t want him. Nor do i comment on whether he was “overpaid” or had “declined” in skill. All of those things you allude to could be true…and that doesn’t change the point of my post: that this wasn’t some great master plan by Licht to replace McCoy with Suh. If, as you say, Licht was just “waiting to cut [McCoy] but wanted to make sure didn’t hang themselves… Read more »

Captain Sly

Scott I’m not sure why you keep reminding us of how bad Licht wanted to sign Suh but some how settled for McCoy, when Suh was available at the start of the offseason. If they wanted Suh that badly as you say why even make McCoy an offer to begin with. Instead they let this thing fester out of control as we went through FA and through the draft and into mini camp. This all could have been avoided if we would have released McCoy back in February. Okay yes Licht has the responsibility to try to find a trade… Read more »

Dman

I like making a trade for Duke Johnson. Loved him at Miami and think he could add a second RB to the group that’s proven he can play.

Would also add O line help, possibly a replacement for JPP. Patrick Peterson at 29 is still a heck of a player, just not excited about the suspension.

Also, I love Cam Brate, but for the right price – meaning a player we need or high enough 2020 pick….. Patriots are an obvious destination…..

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Snook

Scott: this is one of the best articles you’ve ever written. Spot on with all of the McCoy stuff. Vintage Pewter Report. Well done.

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BigSombrero

No need to chime in. My opinion of Gerald “Excuse Cannon” McCoy and his legion of apologists is well established.

I’ve always admired the FEROCIOUSNESS of Suh’s game. I prayed Detroit would pass on him in the draft. Oh well, he didn’t but he’s finally a Buc.

It’s a new day in Tampa Bay and it’s back to intimidating DEFENSE. David, White, Vea, Suh, Barrett, Nassib, and 26 cornerbacks should be fun to watch this year!

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Sector2814

@shuster : I get what you are saying and you aren’t wrong about the Bucs being a poorly run organization. That being said, how many times have the Bucs had a lead late in the game and we needed a sack or a turnover or a stop or SOMETHING and there’s #93 playing pattycake with whatever O-Lineman he is paired against, giving Brees/Newton/Ryan/whoever all the time in the world to get the go ahead score? He likes to say he’s Batman but whenever we really needed him, he was the Invisible Man. He’ll probably have a career year with the… Read more »

Alldaway 2.0

McCoy didn’t want to take a home town discount. McCoy didn’t want to meet with the coaching staff. McCoy didn’t want to lead the defense. Connecting the dots what this tells me is that McCoy needs to focus less on perceiving himself as some type of “Batman” when he is acting like a Robin in reality.

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GoldsonAges

Quick question – if nobody from the Buccaneers contacted McCoy how in the hell was there any possible way he was asked to take a pay cut?

I dont think they wanted him around at all. The whole idea of swapping out McCoy for Suh was about changing the culture in the clubhouse.

A soft ass McCoy is still a soft ass McCoy regardless of his salary.

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BucRy

Remember that one time that Gerald made a game changing play in the 4th quarter?

Yeah…me neither

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Spitfire

Shuster and Ass should go find a Bridge to live under together. I think they could really make each other Happy. Must be a sad life to be a Troll. I guess if you had a kick ass Bridge it wouldn’t be completely miserable, but all the Negativity would cause Blood Pressure issues and I’m not sure there is any ObamaTroll Healthcare plans available. At least they could keep each other Happy talking trash about anything people like and pretending their opinion matters to anyone but themselves.

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drdneast

Fredster, great comment. Now the Panthers have a big baby on both sides of the balls. If you want to see how a real football player plays, look at the Steelers-Panthers game last year. JJ Watts younger brother, who plays OLB for the Steelers, went right for Cams throwing shoulder on a sack in the first half of the game. Cam wasn’t the same for the rest of the game or the season. If you don’t think there are a big number of players in the NFL who wouldn’t have done the same thing, you are naive. Does anyone thing… Read more »

bucballer

First thing these kids learn coming from college to the pros is that the NFL is a huge and successful business. In fact, it’s common knowledge that the N-F-L stands for “not for long”. McCoy wanted/demanded respect due to his longevity with team and his Pro Bowls with the team. But respect has to be earned before it can be given. McCoy saw the writing on the wall. JPP called him out and his teammates did not believe he should be a team captain. For me, as a former player, this is the most crucial knock on McCoy. How can… Read more »

FLBoyInDallas

I don’t have a problem with the Licht trying to get whatever he could get in a trade for McCoy and exhausting every avenue before releasing him. What I do have a problem with, however, is local media like PR saying the team owes nothing at all to a player and the only consideration is what’s good for the organization with no other care being given besides the bottom line. This is completely hypocritical because EVERY time a player takes a stand regarding contract demands and uses every means at his disposal to maximize his income, including holding out and/or… Read more »

scubog

@bucballer: What you stated says it all in my view. JPP called out McCoy, (albeit showing him some respect by not mentioning his name). The team didn’t elect McCoy as a Captain. Bruce Arians and staff’s evaluated his film and concluded that the former #93 wasn’t worth his lofty salary. Evidently some conversations took place with McCoy’s agent about a potential pay reduction that was refused. That set the team’s course of action. Nothing more to say Geraldini. Seems to me, McCoy should have apologized and returned some of the salary he didn’t earn. A player is not worth respect… Read more »

bucballer

Scubog… “I ain’t as good as I once was” classic quote bro! Good one!

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WinstonMVP

I agree with most everything posted above on McCoy. I thought McCoy was a good player but never a great player. He was Never Close to being one of the Best Bucs Ever.I respected him till now. I lost ALL respect. Just another spoiled overpaid (All are not overpaid, McCoy was) NFL player that thinks his worth more then he was. He NEVER elevated the Defense with his play.EVER! I remember one game in 9 YEARS he got a sack in the 4th Qtr to close out a game. ONE N 9 YEARS AND HE FEELS DISRESPECTED? Glad he left… Read more »

matador

Why are we still writing, and posting, about McCoy? What about this quote from Dotson – “It’s [the knee injury] a little better now, though. I worked hard all offseason trying to rehab it… It’s something I have to stay on top of. It’s not going to get back to 100 percent. Hopefully they take care of me a little bit in training camp and give me some rest here and there and I can preserve it as best I can for the season.” Ladies & gentlemen, that is your soon to be 34 yr old starting RT talking, after… Read more »

Ron Potter

Enjoyed reading, Scott. Well-worded commentary on the GMC affairs this week.

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buclover1988

I was all about McCoy when we drafted him. Always had his back, but then you started to see that he was more concerned about being a nice guy, being seen as batman, and apologizing to qbs for hitting them.. . He did a lot of good things in the community and that imo is more important than his accomplishments on the field, but when you’re talking about Gerald McCoy the football player, I would have to say he never lived up to be the player he could have been because he never played with aggression. He never was clutch,… Read more »

last fan standing

I wish McCoy good luck in Carolina except for the two games vs the Bucs. I have posted my opinion on him several times as won’t rehash it again McCoy has created all this drama and for what. It has made him look petty and selfish. The whole interview he contradicted himself. The new coach never talked to him but they did. They never wanted to renegotiate but he admitted they did. so on and so on. Man let it go. The Bucs have moved on so should McCoy and ball washers in the media (not PR) who are all… Read more »

WinstonMVP

Boy, Reading what McCoy said really set me off yesterday. Stuff like that just makes me less of a fan of sports. Some players only really care about there team if there making enough money or get some amount of respect they think they deserve. As soon as they think there disrespected, they mouth off about the team that us Fans love which just makes it hard to care about them as a Fan. Yeah owners only worry about the team (most of the time) but it’s hard to be a Fan when some players only worry about themselves then… Read more »

76Buc

Macabee, nice explanation of contract law. You write like a teacher of business law.

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76Buc

Bucballer- but I’m as good once as I always was.

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tjbucsman

Do you want some cheese with that whine? Yes Mr. McCoy you were a great player and a credit to Tampa Bay area. And yes the fans supported you. Other Buccaneer players have made sacrifices to stay with the team and guess what, they did not act like 5 year olds in doing so. You can not tell me that you could not have worked out some solution to this paycut debacle with the team if you wanted to stay. Yes I know I do not know the whole story. What I do know is that communication is key. Apparently… Read more »

Naplesfan

So Scott acted like a typical asshole reporter asking a misleading question designed to make a player no longer with the team look bad, so that he can keep up his “team access” by sucking up to the current Bucs regime and dickhead “fans” who aren’t fit to polish McCoy’s ass. Here is the real question that was obviously the reasoning behind McCoy’s reaction, just as he said, but with less specificity: Bucs offered McCoy a “pay cut” rather than a “restructure”. So what is the difference, and why is it significant? A pay cut is just that – a… Read more »

Dave

Took me a while to get over the Bucs giving away Nickersons #56. Especially to a league average player. His number should not have been giving to anyone. He’s a legend on the Bucs and his number should be retired. But that’s my opinion

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