FAB 3. 5 Former Arians Players The Bucs Could Target

While new Bucs head coach Bruce Arians likely won’t be able to pry running back David Johnson and cornerback Patrick Peterson away from Arizona in the trade market, there are some of Arians’ former players that are slated for free agency that could be had in March without giving up any compensation.

The Big Takeaway
Here are five players that played for Arians in Arizona that could be lured to Tampa Bay.

ILB Kevin Minter – Tampa Bay
Minter, a second-round pick in Arians’ first draft in Arizona in 2013, spent his first two seasons in the NFL playing in Todd Bowles defense, and then re-joined Bowles in New York for training camp last August before being released in the final roster cut-down. Bucs general manager Jason Licht, who helped draft Minter in Arizona in 2013, signed the 28-year old linebacker to serve as a fill-in for the injured Kwon Alexander. Minter played well, notching 10 tackles and a sack in a limited role before a calf injury landed him on injured reserve in five games.

Bucs ILB Kevin Minter
Bucs ILB Kevin Minter – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Minter has recorded 265 tackles, six sacks, four passes defensed and one forced fumble in his six seasons in the NFL, including 94 stops and a safety in 2015 and 81 the next season, in addition to 3.5 sacks before signing a one-year deal with Cincinnati in 2017. After signing with the Jets in the offseason and not making the team in August, Minter was on the street until Licht signed him in October.

The Bucs are really banged up at linebacker with Kendell Beckwith missing the entire 2018 season recovering from a broken ankle, and Alexander and rookie Jack Cichy suffering torn ACLs. Having a player like Minter who already knows Bowles defense gives the Bucs an insurance policy at the inside linebacker spot in Tampa Bay, and a possible starter with some size at 6-foot, 246 pounds.

WR J.J. Nelson – Arizona
Arians loves having a deep threat wide receiver on his roster, and despite drafting John Brown in the third round in 2014, the Cardinals added another speedster in Nelson, a fifth-round pick in 2015. Brown proved to be the more complete receiver and signed a one-year, $5 million deal with Baltimore last year after Arizona didn’t re-sign him. Brown emerged as a primary weapon in the Ravens’ passing game and wants to re-sign with Baltimore rather than hit free agency.

While Brown may not be an option for the Bucs, Nelson could be had in free agency to provide a Arians with a speed receiver, especially if Tampa Bay parts ways with DeSean Jackson, whom the team may not be able to afford at $10 million this year. Nelson recorded 81 catches for 1,439 yards (17.8 avg.) and 10 touchdowns in his four seasons with Arizona. After catching 11 passes for 299 yards (27.2 avg.) and two scores as a rookie, Nelson had a career-high 34 receptions for 568 yards (16.7 avg.) and six touchdowns in 2016, and had 29 catches for 508 yards (17.5 avg.) and two scores the next season.

Nelson’s production dropped off mightily once Arians left, catching only seven passes for 64 yards (9.1 avg.) and no touchdowns. The 5-foot-10, 160-pounder isn’t big, but he can make big plays with his 4.28 speed. Nelson had seven plays of 40 yards or more for Arians with three 100-yard receiving games with the Cardinals.

G Mike Iupati – Arizona
Tampa Bay has not had a capable guard to play opposite Ali Marpet since Pro Bowler Logan Mankins in 2015. After trying the likes of Kevin Pamphile, J.R. Sweezy, Evan Smith and Caleb Benenoch at guard to no avail, perhaps Arians will turn to one of his former veterans in Iupati, a four-time Pro Bowler.

The Cardinals signed Iupati to a five-year deal worth $40 million in 2015 and after a Pro Bowl season in his first year in Arizona, injuries hit Iupati, causing him to miss most of the 2017 season with a triceps injury, followed by a back injury and a knee injury that cut last year short in early December.

Iupati turns 32 in May, but may have a few good years left in him if he can stay healthy. At 6-foot-5, 336 pounds he’s a mauler in the run game and a wide body that can still hold up in pass protection. He could serve as a bridge until a young player like Alex Cappa, last year’s third-round pick, develops and takes over at guard. If Iupati would be up for a one- or two-year deal at a reduced salary around $5 million it could be a wise signing to bolster the weakest spot on Tampa Bay’s offense.

DB Tyrann Mathieu – Houston
Mathieu is one of Arians’ favorite players. A former third-round pick in Arizona in Arians’ first draft in 2013, Mathieu made the Pro Bowl in 2015 when he played safety and nickel cornerback, making a career-high 89 tackles with 17 pass breakups, five interceptions, including a pick-six, one forced fumble and one sack. A torn ACL and a shoulder injury limited his effectiveness the next two seasons and he hit free agency in 2018, signing a one-year, prove-it deal with Houston worth $7 million.

Former Cardinals SS Tyrann Mathieu
Former Cardinals SS Tyrann Mathieu – Photo by: Getty Images

Starting all 16 games for just the second time in his career, the Honey Badger had 89 tackles, eight pass breakups, five tackles for loss, three sacks, two interceptions for the Texans defense. The problem for the cap-strapped Bucs would be Mathieu’s price tag. He would command at least $7 million per season given last year’s solid season in Houston, and that might be too rich for Tampa Bay.

The Bucs could use a playmaker in their secondary in addition to a veteran presence. At age 26, Mathieu is still in his prime and can flex between strong safety and nickel cornerback and play in the box effectively despite his 5-foot-9, 185-pound frame. Tampa Bay has some young, intriguing safeties on its roster with Justin Evans, a former second-round pick, Jordan Whitehead, last year’s fourth-rounder, Isaiah Johnson and Andrew Adams, who led the Bucs with four interceptions last year. But Mathieu brings the experience of playing in 66 games under Arians with 57 starts and has familiarity with playing in Bowles under defensive backs coaches Nick Rapone and Kevin Ross.

S/LB Deone Bucannon
If the Bucs pass on Mathieu, Arians and the Bucs could target another Arizona safety in Bucannon, who played a hybrid strong safety-linebacker role under Bowles in 2014 and really hit his stride with the Cardinals the next season. As a rookie, Bucannon, who was the team’s first-round pick, had 81 tackles, eight tackles for loss, two sacks, one forced fumble and one fumble recovery. In 2015, he posted 112 tackles, 11 tackles for a loss, three pass breakups, three sacks, three forced fumbles, two fumble recoveries and one pick-six and became a big-time playmaker.

The 6-1, 211-pound Bucannon has been banged up over the last three seasons, missing a total of 10 games over that span. The Cardinals picked up Bucannon’s fifth-year option last year, but he didn’t fit into Steve Wilks’ scheme and managed just six starts. In 2018, Bucannon had only 38 tackles, one sack and one fumble recovery.

Todd Bowles and Bruce Arians
Todd Bowles and Bruce Arians – Photo by: Getty Images

Like Mathieu, Bucannon could step in as a veteran strong safety and add experience and physicality to Tampa Bay’s revamped defense. Bowles really used Bucannon’s athleticism and playmaking ability in creative ways, especially in his nickel package making Bucannon the Cardinals’ “Moneybacker,” which is a coverage linebacker. Bucannon’s modest production last year in Arizona could allow the Buccaneers to come in with a reasonable one-year, prove-it deal to lure him to Tampa Bay and reunite him with Bowles and Arians.

The FABulous Ending
It will be interesting to see what former Cardinals players Arians can persuade to join him in Tampa Bay. Free agency is a two-way street, and the Bucs’ sudden salary cap challenges may ultimately prevent the Bucs from landing one of those players – even if the interest from the player playing for Arians again is there. Players often follow the money, and rightly so as NFL football is paid profession with a relatively short shelf life.

Don’t be surprised to see the Bucs target a former Jets player or two that played under Bowles over the last couple of seasons in New York, too.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

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  1. The Pewter trolls do not like Jackson cause he pointed out that Winston can not throw consitant accurate pass deep They can’t stand he was Fitz fan. PEWTER TROLLS WANT HIM GONE FOR NOT BUYING INTO BS THAT JAMEIS IS MORE THAN A BOTTOM 10 QB

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    • Great point, except Arians is excited to work with Jameis. So Jameis is staying. Does that make Bruce Arians a Pewter Troll?

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    • I only see one pewter troll buc ass and that’s you. But hey you were the genius who thought nick foles would be in the bucs roster. Wrong again.

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    • Lol. It’s always good to see you bob, uninformed as usual. The only troll most of us see is you pouting like a little child about a quarterback. It’s literaly the only Thing you seem to have an opinion on. You call people like us trolls yet people like me provide facts to the convo. All you ever do is regurgitate the same nonsense. Weird how Jamie’s had no other problems throwing deep to Godwin, Evans, and Oj. Keep pouring, one day someone will give you the thumbs up on a post

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      • Watch it with the big words, boho. I’m sure FUC-ASS-BOB has his dictionary out when he sits to read the comments, but regurgitate may be a little big for him

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    • I can see that you have more NFL coaching experience than Bruce Arians, who loves Jameis Winston…oh wait

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    • Dang it bobby

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    • There doesn’t seem to be a problem with the other receivers. Perhaps the issue with not connecting lies at the feet of both players.

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  2. We should just be happy that our new staff seems interested in forming their own opinions on talented players. Not taking the word from previous failed regimes or the slanted reporting from media outlets. Bruce will be judged on his ability to win games and if he thinks he can work with Desean, who is under contract, then let him. Everybody knew Desean was poorly utilized here, it seemed like if the deep wasn’t connecting then this staff was fresh out of ways to use him. Missing the deep shots wouldn’t be that big of a thing if he was getting targets and catches elsewhere on the field which he is more than capable of doing. I’m will never say a player is done because he’s rebelling against the god awful losing mentality that sifts through our organization. He could be quiet like GMC but then people would question his passion and want to, give me a break. If he’s willing to give it a shot and Bruce is the guy Pewter Report has stood on tables saying he is then he will figure out a way to make it work. Good teams don’t improve but losing talented players who are simply not content losing and playing no role in the offense. Make it work, that’s why coaches get paid all the big money.

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    • Great take on the Djax issue. You should post more often.

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    • It’s not just the missed opportunities on long balls. It’s the lack of effort on multiple occasions. Out routes, crossing patterns, miscommunications. A fact: He was the 4th best receiver on the team last year. Blame it on the rain if you want to, but that guy is a luxury the Bucs can’t afford. According to Sportrac.com, Jackson is the 5th highest paid Buccaneer out of 53. 11th highest paid WR in the NFL. Bucs should keep him if he restructures to 3mil per year.

      McCoy’s chances of staying are even worse than D.Jax. He is the 2nd highest paid Buc and 6th hghest paid at his postion in the NFL. His statistical comps played hundreds less snaps last year and produced similar results(tackles, sacks, ff, tfl). Sportrac compars GMC’s results to I. Rochell(LAC). Rochell will earn 550k. He had 1 less sack, 2 more tackles, and one int…with 203 less snaps.

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  3. Chemistry matters most. Jackson and Winston have played together 2 years and their chemistry isn’t there. Round hole, square peg. Keep Hump, elevate Bobo and Watson.

    Evans, Godwin, Hump, Wilson, and Watson looks good to me and they are already good with Winston at QB.

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    • Quick question:
      He may not be a speed guy, or a BA guy, or a former Steeler/Colt/Cardinal, but he will be a free agent next year and may come cheap. Yep, Im talking about Winston’s favorite WR at FSU – Kelvin Benjamin. Do the Bucs bring him in if they lose Hump and Jackson?

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      • As a nole fan, heck no on Benjamin. He cant keep his weight in check and he really doesnt bring anything to the table that we dont already have.

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        • Good points. I just knew he got bounced from Carolina to Buffalo to KC. He didn’t really contribute in his limited time in KC. I was thinking about how large the WR/TE corps would be with him in the lineup, but you make really good points about his weight and his redundancy.

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  4. Deion Sanders said receivers are all like this because they have to depend on another man for their success and its true. They are all Divas. In this case there has been no chemistry between Winston and Jackson. It depends on how bad he’s trashed Winston and if its beyond the point of no return. We don’t know the details. It was the wrong move to bring him here but since he is under contract for another year and we have a new coach they have to explore it. Let’s just hope if he stays its well thought out and it better work out or this will be a black eye for Arians. We cant afford any more personnel mistakes here if we are to see a quick turnaround like Arians says.

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    • I agree that they are to an extent, but I have yet to see Evans, Godwin, or hump have any complaints about this teams quarterback no matter who it was behind center. If your a team player than you don’t hear much, but when you have people like Terell Owens, mesean, Steve Smith, Antonio brown, they care about winning but their stats are just as important to them.

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  5. Very good Fab Five Scott. It’s been awhile since lack of salary cap space has been an issue. I don’t believe it’s unrealistic to ask Dotson, Jackson, McCoy to take a 25% paycut; if there was pushback then I would move on from them. Just my opinion.

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    • Good point Horse. However, the last time we had salary cap issues was when we were coming off a Superbowl win.

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  6. If they are not willing to take less money, Bucs will have to move on. No way they are paying McCoy 13 million next year and Jackson 10 million. They are both very good players. I doubt we can get anything now for either of them.

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  7. Maybe in your next Fab 5 Scott you can go over the Jet FA’s on defense Bowles might be more interested in. I think there are several LB’s, and a couple of corners that we might target. Another LB that might fit better in a 3-4 then Kwon who’s coming off an ACL would be C.J. Moseley.

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  8. If the season starts and Bruce Arians hasn’t gotten himself a better quarterback I will not feel so sorry for him if he wants to throw away his last chance on a quarterback rated 90% good luck to him . Why is it when I’m on the street and I asked people about Winston I can’t find anybody that likes him must be the Clearwater Hood maybe that’s different than the hood CG master and Chef boho live in.

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    • They’ll probably draft a developmental QB in the mid rounds or later rounds.

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    • Maybe it’s because your crowd doesn’t want to be waterboarded by one of your nonsense tirades arguing a point of view that differs from yours. Winston isn’t going anywhere. You should just accept it.

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    • Haha nope nick foles isnt coming clown. Neither is bell. Just accept that you are constantly as wrong. But in a sense I do enjoy the good laugh from your incoherent posts about things you clealry dont know anything about.

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  9. Again, if Jackson doesn’t want to be here… then scadattle out of here! Every WR knows that complaining about getting the ball/and ur QB is the quickest way to ensure u will continue not getting the ball! Jaskson showed his stripes last year… I think his salary back on the cap is more important than his selfish attitude! The Bucs and their Administration has decided to go with Jameis this coming year! That’s that! If u don’t like Jameis… I for one can understand that view point…but as a Buc fan… enough already! BA is here with his 18 assistant coaches and there will be no excuses this year! Cut the dead wood, free up some cap space and find those players who might want to come to the beautiful and sunny Tampa Bay! Go Bucs!

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    • Lol. Scadattle is a funny word.

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  10. Honestly, I’d rather just keep Humphries and maybe find a younger/cheaper deepthreat.

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  11. Bob your such an idiot it’s just laughable. So the idiots on the street know more than Arians about Winston and his potential? Ah makes lots of sense. Lol 😂. This coming from the moron who told us all year JPP and Vea both sucked.

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  12. Wasn’t it you fredster was talking about Winston the MVP in the Super Bowl couple years back for three years I’ve been told how stupid I am for saying Winston’s going to finish last in the division. Bruce Arians is going to say nothing but good for everybody that’s on the roster until they’re not on the roster if he wants to go in the next year with Winston then he can sit at the bottom of the division again just like The two coaches before him you know why fredster because Winston is a loser again he loses that’s what he does is lose year after year

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    • Just give Winston a chance to prove himself with Arians, if Arians can not get Winston playing at a high level, then you are right Bob. Til then, you should support him and hope for the best..it’s another new year with a proven coach and I am hoping he brings out the best in Winston.

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    • Ahhh yes, bob and his “quarterbacks are the only ones responsible for losses” combo. Do you realize how stupid that comment really is? Why is it that I’ve mentioned several time how many losses the coaches, the defense, and the kicking has cost this team wins yet you seem to think that all rests on the quarterback. No, Winston isn’t perfect, far from it. In fact there’s definitely games he himself has lost due to his play. But to think he’s the reason for all of our losses just shows exactly how uninformed you are about football. It’s why no one takes you seriously or probably ever will. Now take your meds and relax already. Let Arians, who knows a lot more than us, handle Jamie’s and this team.

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    • Arians has forgotten more than you’ll ever know buc ass. Move on o tr pick a new team. I love that having jameis here drives you nuts. Its comical watching you regurgitate post after posts of rambles.

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  13. Restructure McCoy contract. Let Gholston and DJax go. Re-sign Kwon, Humphries, Donovan as RT, Glanton(depth). Sign Minter(depth), Honey Badger, Nelson, Hunt & Iupati. OL – Jonah/Iupati/Jensen/Marpet/D Smith

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    • I am hoping Mathieu does not resign with the Texans so we can bring him here!

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    • Bucs currently have 12m in cap space. If they cut DJax, that adds 10m and Gholston adds back 3.75m. Restructure McCoy to what? 10m? That would save 3m. New Cap Space 12m+10m+3.75m+3m=28.75m

      D.Smith will get 13-14m/year
      Hump played for 3m on a 1 year deal last year. He earned more than he was paid. 4-6m/yr likely.
      Thats 17-20m.

      8-11m left to sign Kwon, Glanton, Minter, Matthieu, Nelson, Hunt, and Iupati? Math doesnt want to add up.

      Bucs have a lot of work to do and I just don’t see how they keep D.Jax or McCoy at a fair price.

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      • The Bucs are not going to sign Kareem Hunt forget about it. And all this talk about BA wanting Djax is a smokescreen to boost trade value, the Bucs aren’t paying 10mil for a WR not named Mike Evans. As far as the Cap senerios you layout you left off Brate, at 8mil he’s a luxury the Bucs can’t afford and shouldn’t at the expense of loosing Mccoy. Then there’s Humphrey reports are he wants around 5mil, are you paying Hump at the expense of loosing Kwon, FA guard or LT or even safety. The point I’m making is Brate and Humphrey are likely Cap Casualties.

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        • I left Brate out for a good reason. He was just signed to a 6 year deal last year. He played through a fractured hip. He has more TDs over the last 3 years than all other TE’s except 3. His number is 7 million and he’s Winston’s favorite red zone receiver. Brate is part of the solution, not problem.

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          • I’ll just say it this way Brate may be a good guy but Brate does not play LT,LB,CB,Safety or DT for that matter. I believe he’ll be a cap casualty because the Bucs have all these other holes to fill.

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  14. Why are we even talking about D-Jax staying with this team. Move him, cut him, who cares.

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  15. Firmly in the “let D-Jax go” camp. His chemistry with Jameis just hasn’t been there, he’s holding back Godwin (who deserves to start and to have more targets), and we need the $10 million earmarked for him elsewhere. Nothing personal.

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  16. Hold on to D-J for buy-in on Arian offense & Winston, trade-bait or until the last day to drop a malcontent free of charge. D-A-B your position is loud and clear, please give it a rest.

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  17. Just cut MeSean and move on. He’s one of the most inefficient and overpaid receivers in the NFL. Winston isn’t great at the deep ball, but DeSean giving up on the ball when it isn’t perfectly thrown is inexcusable. Arians is just saying he wants to keep Jackson to try and sucker some other team into a trade.

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  18. There is no doubt that DJax is a good WR, but if he is not happy here in Tampa that may affect his play and others on the team. If he wants to be traded then trade him, we could certainly use the draft picks and a lower CAP number.

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  19. Please TRADE him. Some team will find value in him. Be creative but get something for him as I think he has a couple of years in him. VALUE!!

    Go Bucs !!!

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  20. DJax needs to go. We don’t need the attitude or pouting. Disrupts team chemistry. What is really bothersome is his receiver coach sounds like a fan boy more that a coach. Man the ball washing going on by him is crazy.

    They can make some cap room. Cut Djax (10 Mill), Cut Vin Curry (8 Mill), Restructure McCoy (6 Mill) he not worth 13 Mill at this point in his career, Smith O Line 2 Million, Conte 2 Million, Urien 3 Mill = 31 million + the 12 they have is 43 Mill.

    Figure 13 D Smith and 6 Hump still leaves 24 Mill. I don’t see Kwon getting what he reportedly wants at 12 Mill a year. If he gets it god bless but not here. He is a good player not a 12 mill player. i would spend 8 at the most on him.

    the numbers estimates but they can make room.

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  21. I agree BucWild! Historically, when a new coach takes over… change is inevitable. In our case this change may be good. Dump salary and any malcontents. BA will want his boyz that he feels will give him the best chance to succeed. We only have like 10-12 core players… the rest are interchangeable with other Free Agents. Dump the expensive, old, and underperforming players. In our case change is good! Rebuild the roster and the attitudes! I’m just saying…Go Bucs!

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  22. Hey last fan standing… I like ur choices to be cut go! Don’t forget Gholdston the D-Lineman… that dude was signed to a new big contract that he had no business being offered… I never hear his name called…ever! We need some Dogs that can hunt!

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  23. Im not even worried bout our offense…why are we so concerned about djax when we clearly have like 6 wr’s/TE’s who can get the job done..yea we need a rb and a lil tweak in the o-line but that will get fixed…the defense should be all the focus and talk this offseason…if defense improve we’ll be playoff bound no doubt in my mind. The defense doesn’t even need to be great just top 15 and its game over…am i wrong??

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    • Nope, not wrong. I would say spot on

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  24. There is no need to cut any of the players under contract until the end of Training Camp when the 53 man roster is to be set. Cutting a player allows a Division rival to scoop them up. Trading them gives Licht a bit more control of the destination. I know, we all want to trade players, or a package of players, we believe to be expendable and costly before the April Draft to acquire more picks, but that just rarely happens. What does happen is players get injured during Training Camp and teams can get desperate to replace them. Nothing wrong with the compensation being paid in 2020.

    Let’s allow this new coaching staff evaluate the roster, the locker room persona and one on one conversations to make their own opinions and not rely on often biased hearsay. No need to be hasty for spite only to regret it later. We don’t need our players enriching our opponents if they can be salvaged.

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    • I Agree Scu, I would not try to evaluate any of our roster through the eyes of Arians and his coaching staff. At this point it will be fun to sit back and watch an entire new staff and scheme develop, and not being to shocked to see a Buc’s team totally reincarnated in 2019.

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  25. I don’t understand the frequent use of the word chemistry. We’ve all been watching the truly elite QBs in the playoffs. Can Winston throw the deep ball accurately with any consistency, yes or no?

    I think anyone who puts emotions and what they want to be true vs what is aside would say, at least so far in his NFL career, the answer is no.

    So the next question becomes given that, does it make good business sense to pay $10 million a year to a WR whose biggest value add is as a deep ball threat?

    Once again being objective, the answer is no. We have way too many holes in the roster to allocate that much capital to a resource we can’t appropriately utilize. We are not the right home for that asset.

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    • Well said. I would substitute “chemistry” for timing. Winston works on his timing with every other WR on the team. Seem he has “chemistry” with everyone else. D Jax never made to off season workouts or OTA’s his first season while Evans, Brate and Humphries all got lost of time with #3 before training camp ever started. Not much different last season and then Winston road the pines for a while. For guys that put in the work, “chemistry” happens. When guys don’t, they don’t connect on game day. Time to let D Jax go and find someone that will play on his terms.

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    • Well said. I would substitute “chemistry” for timing. Winston works on his timing with every other WR on the team. Seem he has “chemistry” with everyone else. D Jax never made to off season workouts or OTA’s his first season while Evans, Brate and Humphries all got lots of time with #3 before training camp ever started. Not much different last season and then Winston road the pines for a while. For guys that put in the work, “chemistry” happens. When guys don’t, they don’t connect on game day. Time to let D Jax go and find someone that will play on his terms.

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  26. I would like to see us draft D line and RB early and bring in a vet or 2 in the secondary. I think we should try to trade up with our 1st pick packaged with Djax and or GMC for the Niners 2 overall pick so we can take Quinnen Williams DT from Bama and then take Zack Allen DE from Boston with our 2nd pick. I also like Devin Singletary RB in the 3rd. Then concentrate the remaining picks on O line. We can try to couple up our later picks with Vinny Curry and or Will Golsten to move back into the 3rd or second round to get a better OG or OT. If we can dump Curry, Golsten, GMC, Djax, we would have the salary cap room to go after a vet in the secondary like S Earl Thomas , go after Clowney, tag OT Smith, sign Kwon Alexander, sign Humphries . With everything I mentioned (yes I might be dreaming) we would have a D line rotation of Vita Vea NT, Zack Allen DE/DT, Quinnen Williams DT/DE, Clowny DE/OLB, Bow Allen NT, JPP DE/OLB, Carl Nassib DE/OLB and a young secondary led by one of the best safety’s to ever play the game in Earl Thomas.

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  27. trade Djax or Winston

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  28. No Bob I never said anything about Winston in a Super Bowl or an MVP. Your on crack. Go back and find my quote saying anything remotely like that. Winston has high potential, Arians sees it and is smarter than you or any of us on this board. He isn’t going anywhere so pick another team to be a “fan” of or go cry elsewhere how he and practically everyone on this team sucks.

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  29. I would really like to see something different in our running game. For many years the the emphasis has been put on passing, pass rush, pass defense, pass blocking and while I fully realize that the game is predominantly pass oriented there is nothing more exciting than a back that can consistently rip off 8-9 yards per carry and is a constant threat to take it to the house even time he touches the ball. I guess I am Old School enough to miss Barry Sanders, Walter Peyton, a young Adrian Peterson and yes, OJ and Jim Brown. and Larry Csonka.

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  30. Dman (funny how autocorrects to damn: – ) you make a good point about reps and timing. I don’t recall Winston being very accurate with long ball no matter who has been throwing to over the years, but he did have some success later in the season so perhaps what you said is partly the reason.

    Matt I respectfully disagree with the idea of waiting until the 4th round to invest in OL. We need high caliber 10-yr starters there not semi-projects, we’ve tried the latter approach and it has gotten us nowhere.

    Also hard to stomach spending a 3rd round pick on RB after Licht whiffed on Sims and may have on RoJo. RoJo needs to come around or could be one of last nails in Licht’s career coffin in BA’s era of accountability. You know when the practices start there will be multiple times he looks at Licht and thinks WTF?

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  31. We should try to keep DJax for one reason, Winston. If Winston can’t put the ball on consistently and accurately when asked he’s likely to struggle with any speedster we might pickup down the road. For the 5th year now Winston will be under evaluation. After which we cut or swallow the $80-100M long term deal. We need to know if Winston can improve that deep ball accurately with explosive players.

    Eating his $10 million for one more year is worth more to the team right now than because of that extended eval. With him wanting out it’s going to be hard to get anything for him anyway. So if BA can get him stay that really is best option for the team.

    I’m clearly not pro Winston, but if that’s what we are doing then we need to know if Winston can correct this or not. If he can’t we know pursuing that type of talent wont likely workout with him.

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  32. I knew at the beginning of the year that D Jax & Winston probably wouldn’t have better chemistry because Fitz was getting all the starter reps because Winston was suspended. Then Winston was out 3 games (suspension) and wasn’t even allowed to be at the facility. And Fitz stayed in as the starter next 3 games so there wasn’t enough time for Winston & D Jax to grow on there chemistry.
    I don’t even read Buc Ass Bobs post anymore. I just look to to see how many down thumbs there are and know that i will feel the same way so I just click ” Thumb Down” LOL GO BUCS!!!

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  33. Also then D Jax missed a lot of games (with injury) when winston finally styed in as QB so how were they ever suppose to build chemistry in 2018. weren’t gonna happen. GO BUCS!!!

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  34. One thing is for deehyam skippy..Arians is not going to tolerate dissencion or squabbles on his team. If Jackson starts his cryin and antics, he will be gone or on the bench. I get a feeling Jackson is gone. For maybe a 3rd rounder. Arians does not tolerate foolishness. Jackson can pout elsewheres.

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