FAB 5. SR’s Buc Shots

• I hope you enjoyed my sort of spoof-filled Fab 1 section about the Bucs being cursed. Is Tampa Bay really cursed or just really bad? You be the judge.

Here’s something else to ponder. Since changing their uniforms in 2014, the Bucs have compiled a record of 25-47 (.347) in the new jerseys, which feature digital clock-looking numbers that a great number of fans despise. Tampa Bay’s record in its original red and pewter jerseys from 1997-2013 was 122-118 (.508).

In Sunday’s 2-Point Conversion, I mentioned how the Glazers should be keeping an eye on the situation in Baltimore where John Harbaugh might be on the hot seat if the Ravens fail to make the playoffs this year. Harbaugh has compiled a 95-66 record (.590) in the regular season and is an impressive 10-5 (.667) in the postseason, including winning Super Bowl XLVII against his brother Jim, who coached the San Francisco 49ers.

Ravens head coach John Harbaugh - Photo by: Getty Images
Ravens head coach John Harbaugh – Photo by: Getty Images

Jim Harbaugh had a successful careers at San Diego (29-6 from 2004-06) and Stanford (29-21 from 2007-10) that he parlayed into a very successful stint with the 49ers from 2011-14 (44-19-1), leading San Francisco to the Super Bowl in 2012. He left the 49ers in 2015 after an 8-8 season to return to his alma mater, Michigan, where he is 36-12, including an 8-1 mark this year. He makes $7 million per year and it would take a significant increase to lure him away from a Wolverines program he is building into a national power.

With Urban Meyer’s health concerns a factor at Ohio State, the Buckeyes dominance in the Big 10 might be over and Harbaugh knows it. I don’t know that Harbaugh would want to leave Michigan and the potential success on the horizon for a job like Tampa Bay. It’s not attractive enough and the Michigan boosters can pony up as much money as the Glazers could offer in order to keep him in maize and blue.

If the Bucs are going to make a coaching change and have a shot at either Harbaugh as a candidate to replace Koetter, it will likely be the Ravens’ John Harbaugh. The Ravens, by the way, have the league’s No. 1 defense, which would make pursuing John Harbaugh a wise move in Tampa Bay if he were available and able to bring his staff of assistants to the Bucs.

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DRAFT DIAMOND: WASHINGTON CB BYRON MURPHY
PewterReport.com is the undisputed leader in Bucs draft coverage each year. During the 2018 draft, we accurately forecasted the selection of three Tampa Bay draft picks as defensive tackle Vita Vea, offensive lineman Alex Cappa and wide receiver Justin Watson were all Bucs’ Best Bets.

Draft season for the PewterReport.com staff starts in September as we do a great deal of scouting during college football season. Trevor Sikkema, who also provides content for TheDraftNetwork.com, will provide SR’s Fab 5 with a weekly segment called Draft Diamond where we focus on a different draft prospect each week. This week’s Draft Diamond is Washington CB Byron Murphy.

The Buccaneers have invested a lot of resources in their secondary over the last few years, but when you’re on pace to be one of the worst defenses in NFL history, statistically speaking, you have to keep yourself open to investing even more.

The secondary for the Bucs has been a major problem. Outside of rookie cornerback Carlton Davis, Tampa Bay does not have a reliable player right now. Cornerback Brent Grimes, who is 35, is in his final season – you can just see it. Former first-round pick Vernon Hargreaves has been hurt all year and has been on injured reserve since Week 2. Third-year cornerback Ryan Smith has been better but still has struggled, and rookie M.J. Stewart might not have the athleticism for the position and be moved to safety in the future.

If the Bucs are looking for a player in the secondary to keep their eyes on with a Top 50 pick, Washington’s redshirt sophomore cornerback Byron Murphy is their guy.

 He’s currently a first-round pick in many mock drafts.

Murphy is a 6-foot, 180-pound outside corner who plays the position with good athleticism and instincts. He has 63 tackles, 19 pass breakups, three career interceptions, two forced fumbles and one sack in his two seasons as a starter, and is a cornerstone for the Huskies defense. Murphy plays the position with good awareness and a lot of confidence. Though smaller, he can still lay some hits, though consistency in common talks is obviously not his strong suit at his weight.

Murphy can play man coverage and Cover 3 assignments well, and would be a good option for the Buccaneers to replace Grimes.

For more on Murphy and many other draft prospects, make sure you’re visiting TheDraftNetwork.com and following @DraftNetworkLLC on Twitter.

• Bucs linebacker Kendell Beckwith is making progress, but he still might be a week away from being able to be cleared to suit up and play. Beckwith was limited in practice last week in his first return to action since breaking his ankle in the offseason.

“It was cool, it was great being back out there,” Beckwith said. “That was the most exciting part for me, is just getting back out there, it’s just like, it’s so long. It felt good. I didn’t go too hard with it being the first week. It’s a process, but it felt good. So far, so good.”

Beckwith said the ankle held up well and he was able to do a little more work in practice this week.

Bucs LB Kendell Beckwith - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs LB Kendell Beckwith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

“It’s definitely steady, it’s definitely getting better,” Beckwith said. “It’s definitely feeling it’s best, so just got to keep continuing to improve, continue to work on it, because it’s something that I’m always going to have to work on as far as the flexibility part of it. It feels fine. That feels fine, it feels strong.”

Beckwith has had success recovering from a serious injury before. He tore his ACL in November 2016 at LSU, but was able to be cleared to play by training camp after being drafted in the third round last year. Beckwith had 73 tackles, one sack and one forced fumble as a rookie.

“That’s one of the main hurdles to get over – just the mental side of it,” Beckwith said. “I mean that just takes repetition and going through it. I feel like once I’m back at 100 percent, I’ll be fine. It’s like two different deals, I never dealt with like ankle injuries and don’t even get them wrapped. So it’s different, it’s a different deal. Man, I’m close to one hundred (percent). I’m damn close.”

Tampa Bay has until November 21 to determine if it wants to activate him to the 53-man roster or whether to place him on injured reserve.

• PewterReport.com’s Trevor Sikkema and Mark Cook are joined by Tampa Bay Times veteran Bucs beat writer Rick Stroud for the latest edition of the Pewter Nation Podcast, which was taped on Thursday. Stroud, who filled in for yours truly on Thursday, brings his unique insight to the table and has some pointed opinions about Jameis Winston and the QB debate between he and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Good stuff from Stroud. Be sure to listen to Pewter Nation Podcast Episode 100 Part 9: Adventures Of Rick And Not Morty by clicking here.

If you missed out on Monday’s Pewter Nation Podcast, Episode 100 Part 8, which came out Monday after the Bucs’ loss at Carolina against the Panthers, make sure you listen to that one as I dish out some inside scoop on Falcons head coach Dan Quinn, who was almost Tampa Bay’s defensive coordinator at one point. You can listen to Pewter Nation Podcast Ep100 Part 8: Bucs Defensive Coordinator Dan Quinn by clicking here.

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• Contract talks between the Bucs and injured middle linebacker Kwon Alexander have stalled for the time being. Alexander tore his ACL against Cleveland and that has created a tough situation for Tampa Bay. On one hand, the Bucs will have missed half a year’s worth of evaluation of Alexander to determine his worth. Yet with the way linebacker Adarius Taylor has played, which hasn’t been good at all, can up Alexander’s value during his absence.

Bucs LB Kwon Alexander – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs LB Kwon Alexander – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Because of his injury, there is no sense of urgency to get a contract extension done during the season, and this might be done in the offseason prior to free agency. Aside from Alexander’s play, the Bucs also miss his energy and leadership as he’s a team captain and the heart and sould of the defense.

Tampa Bay is still pursuing a contract extension with left tackle Donovan Smith. He’s not one of the top 10 left tackles in the league, but he is a top 15 left tackle and it’s hard to find good players at that position. Smith hasn’t been stellar this year in pass protection and has had two mediocre showings against Cincinnati and Carolina, which haven’t helped his cause for a greater pay day.

The advantage to doing a deal now with the 25-year old left tackle is that he would come cheaper in average salary per year than if Tampa Bay waits until the offseason and uses the franchise tag on him he’ll make $14 million per year. The Bucs could strike a deal now and possibly get him for $12-$13 million per year instead over the long term, which would be more beneficial to Tampa Bay’s salary cap for 2019 and beyond.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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cgmaster27

When watching bucs games ,its no doubt most of us feel cursed at times. When it comes to this regime, I dont think 8-8 is good enough. 9-7 to me or you clean house. To be honest I dont even want licht near this draft class after last years draft. And dont tell me rookies need time. I’m watching rookies all over the league play well and our first round pick cant even run into a tackle at this point. Hell I read am interesting article about the running back closed form 2017 and the is about 10 guys playing… Read more »

GrayBalls

I don’t fully disagree with what you said here. But, I do have a question. Who would we line up in a 3-4? I don’t believe we have the personnel for that as a base package. 5-2-4 is something, I believe, would work much better with the current roster. From RE-to-LE: Spence/Nassib-Gholston/Curry-Vea/Allen/Gholston-McCoy/Allen/Vea-JPP/Nassib/Spence. LBs David and Alexander(when healthy), both playing spy/shadow Taylor and Beckwith(when healthy) can both play this role as as spell players. There is plenty of depth and the right kind of talent on the squad to employ such a scheme and have a healthy rotation. It, in theory,… Read more »

Caloyski

Yes, they probably are; however, before we contact any priest for ritual exorcism, maybe the Bucs may want to consider Feng Shui. I’m no Feng Shui expert, but I’m a believer and practitioner. Currently, the whole Bucs organization is experiencing very BAD “CHI” (Harmony).

Maybe they can hire a Feng Shui expert and look at how One Buc is set up, the buildings surrounding One Buc, the interior, etc.

Just a suggestion but what do they have to lose. (No Pun intended)

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tog

I don’t understand all the Alexander love. he was terrible both as a leader and as a middle linebacker. He is probably the worst starting coverage linebacker in the NFL. The defense was terrible with him it hasn’t changed without him.

the problem is Adarius should never be in and that’s on licht. He is truly horrible. That doesn’t make kwon better it just means Licht failed to find an effective backup.

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fredster

Good read. It’s been I real circus last 10 years for sure! You asked do we trust Glazers to make the decision for coach, or GM? Do they trust themselves? I would say answer is a big fat no. Lol. I’d like to see Licht and Koetter get another year and not blow the team up and risk offense not being good again. I know Licht has struggled in areas and I’m on fence with keeping him. On the dense with Winston I have said my posistion enough but without a run game and worst d in league they set… Read more »

cgmaster27

The thing about this offense my friend is that with these skill position players, you could run any offense and be successful. I think its speaks more to our wide receiver and the talent that koetters system

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Buc stops here

Totally agree. Jason Licht and the Glazers seem to have lucked out and finally got the offense figured out. With a competent QB the team scores enough points to win. The problem has been the Licht/Koetter brain trust has not been able to figure out how to make a defense work. If you fire everyone and bring someone else in now, you do risk losing the offense you have. The only question I have is how to fix the defense – they don’t seem to have any clue right now on how to do it. Except 2010 when it was… Read more »

pinkstob

Fab 1: There is no curse. The transition from the Bucs playing at a respectable level to playing like crap happened after the Glazer sons took over. You want to help? Put their feet to fire with antagonizing and embarrassing articles that bring light to how their father built their wealth by making well informed, intelligent decisions. Write articles about how their pride and ego in insisting on running the team is all that is keeping the Bucs from winning. Keep the heat on by demanding they hire a firm to research and hire a President of Football Operations to… Read more »

Naplesfan

Here, here!

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e

I agree with most of your points, Pink. The Glazers are the one constant since the Superbowl and they should be held to account. I also agree on the unis.

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BUC-ASS-BOB

As much as I dislike the moves Jason Licht makes I can not believe he is a stupid as it would take to make some of these moves he makes I have to believe he is being pressured by the morons in the Glazer family. Decisions that make no football since are constantly being made. Remember the Glazer morons are spoon fed kids that have never had to win at anything. They never lived in the world you and I live in, you can not predict anything about the way they run this team. I would say as bad as… Read more »

Rut

I simply could not agree more with every comment you made Pink. Fab 1. The media really needs to grab the power they have to influence the Glazers because if there’s one thing those twerps care about, it’s their public perception. The first few coaches that didn’t work, you could say it’s the coaches. Raheem was a good awful decision but I honestly really liked the Schiano hiring. I’ve always felt he was “right coach/wrong time” for this team because he brought some talent in and played them pretty well, the problem was he pissed everyone off with his tyrannical… Read more »

Devasher

I’m impressed you can still make it through an entire Fab 5 Pink. I start at Fab one, hear Scott do his best Jason Licht defense/deflection (which he does almost every week without fail) then stop reading and check the comments. You’re 100% right. It’s not a curse, only an idiot believes in curses. Sorry, are the Red Sox or Cubs still “cursed”? I guess when you get competent ownership and management curses have a tendency to magically lift. You see, I said, magically, so it’s clear it’s magic and not actual competent ownership. Scott’s Fab 5 was once the… Read more »

BucRy

We have turned into the Cleveland Buccaneers, a joke of a franchise.

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stlbucsfan

The Bucs are not cursed we just have subpar coaching and a general manager that can’t properly identify talent. If the Bucs go 3-5 during the second half of the season Licht will have the exact same record as Mark Dominick through 4 years. People say that the talent level is night and day from when he got the team but the reality is the results tell a completely different story. The next Bucs GM needs to be a guy that sees the value in taking risks on players like a La’el Collins late in drafts instead of drafting guys… Read more »

Devasher

Exactly right Stlbucsfan. Licht took his risks on Jameis Winston, Charles Sims, Roberto Aguayo, Austin Safarian Jenkins and failed miserably. The reason his teams don’t win games is because he was incredibly bad at picking players both in the draft and in free agency. He’s on head coach number 2 (Lovie, Koetter) and defensive coordinator number 4 (Leslie Frazier, Lovie, Mike Smith, Mark Duffner). Somehow despite being on the fourth DC in 5 years the defense still sucks and is last in the NFL. Any chance it’s not coaching? Maybe it’s the players? Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No… Read more »

martinii

Good read Scott. Several thought provoking comments and yes I agree there have been many games where I concluded the Buc’s were cursed. I certainly don’t have the football knowledge to assess why the team at times acts as if it is trying to lose the game vrs. win. There was a time when I thought it was my fault. I asserted to any and every divine entity that would listen that “If the Buc’s win the Super Bowl I will never bitch about them again.” In hindsight that did not turn out well over the past decade. On a… Read more »

Naplesfan

No curses, the explanation is correlation with causation. 1976 to 1994 – team owned and mismanaged by the tightwad Hugh Culverhouse (last year by his heirs) Terrible owner, terrible manager, terrible results 1995 to 2007 – team owned and well managed by Malcolm Glazer, a canny manager and owner, produced the only era in team history when the team could actually be expected to be successful year after year. Way too short an era, but the good owner caused the good results 2008 to the sucky present – team owned and managed by the Baby Glazers after old man Glazer… Read more »

pinkstob

Agreed. To your last point though if the Glazers hire a firm to hire the PFO, you remove the opportunity for the Glazer offspring to screw it up. They can find the firm based their past history of hiring results. The Glazers can also find a good board of directors that have had success hiring good CEO’s to find the PFO. I know the Glazers have the contacts among the richest people in this country to pull off such a search, but their ego and pride is getting in the way. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes yet.… Read more »

pinkstob

In short, my expectation is that the Glazers may not be able to identify good football minds, but they can ask their contacts who knows a firm or a board of directors that has had success finding great business operation minds? A great business operation mind with a passion and deep understanding of football can come from a variety of backgrounds. A good business operation mind can transfer across business and find success. That’s why Steve Jobs was able to recruit the CEO from Pepsi to come work at Apple and help lead them to the next level of success.… Read more »

Naplesfan

You are right in that there probably are some good people out there somewhere in NFL land who could be hired if the Glazers were willing to put their egos aside and let the pros take over. I just don’t know that they can put their egos aside like that. I would think that there are successful owners out there who could mentor the Glazer boys, maybe some one outside of the NFC South. Guys like Robert Kraft, or Pat Bowlen, or Dan Rooney. But our luck the Glazers would ask Jerry Jones for help! And then get it! 🙁… Read more »

Alldaway 2.0

I respectfully disagree! Maybe I am old school but you need 11 disciplined players on defense and the turnovers will start to flow in.

I think in the current NFL era having an elite talent on defense is overrated because of how pass happy the league has become.

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EricNV

I actually think the Glazers would not be better off by firing Koetter at the end of the season. Fire the GM, DC and defensive coaching staff, and special teams coaches, but give Koetter his due with the offense by keeping him. Conversely, if they insist on firing both Koetter and Licht, keep the OC and promote to HC or insist that the new HC and GM keep the current OC. That will hopefully remove the Bucs’ curses.

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Naplesfan

Defenses are always measured relative to their peers. With the rules as they are now, defenses are greatly hindered.

But it still makes a helluva difference if you are the 1st ranked defense, or the 32nd ranked defense. And you don’t have to have the no. 1 ranked defense if you have the no. 1 ranked offense … but adding first and last together still equals mediocre, or worse. A top 5 offence combined with a middle 5 defense equals playoffs.

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drdneast

I have sometimes question Scott Reynolds insight on an occasional basis, but not his logic. Maybe I should have precluded he was suffering from early stages of dementia last year when he started lobbying for Jon Gruden to be rehired as head coach. Seriously, if anyone with half a brain had examined Gruden’s overall record here, they never would have even considered the idea. But now we have the ultimate in teenage hysteria from Reynolds. A curse or many curses. Definition: a solemn utterance intended to invoke a supernatural power to inflict harm or punishment on someone or something. Really.… Read more »

Bucsfan1983

Defense needs playmakers.

Hmm… You know who is a playmaker on defense. Derwin James.

You know who’s not? Overweight bust Vita Vea

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BucRy

I saw Vea hustling last game..just to miss a tackle lmao

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Jonbuc

It sure feels like a curse…and almost as if The Bucs and Gruden made a deal with the devil for the SB Title…as Gruden had the Raider playbook and everything fell into place. It’s been a dumpster fire since…with so few things to cheer about but plenty of cleats to the groin along the way. The uniforms are pretty crummy…winning week 17 last year to lose out on Bradley Chubb and instead keeping Licht’s Out around to absolutely butcher the draft…the top premium picks in particular. I feel for Scott and the talented band of writers who have to continue… Read more »

drdneast

Everyone misses on draft picks but Licht has a woeful record in Round 2 which is not good. Let’s face it, our LB’s aren’t as good as Pewter Report touts them to be. Lavontae David had one good year under Schiano and that was it. Alexander makes a lot of tackles but doesn’t make very many big plays. From what I have seen, neither is really that outstanding in dropping back into zone coverage. Finally, both of them got into Warren Sapp this week arguing about how to play defense on an end around. Both insisted they should they try… Read more »

drdneast

Sorry, I meant to say both players insisted they should try to tackle the ball carrier from the inside rather than set the edge.

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macabee

No curse! No Voodoo dolls! The Bucs are what their record says they are – a bad football team! This is no mistake. They are the product of: *Unproductive Drafts *Lack of Player Development *Failed Free Agency *Ineffective Coaching *Resistance to Change The Bucs drafts over the years have been unproductive. We drafted Gerald McCoy and Mike Evans that have met or exceeded expectations from draft position. Who else have the Bucs drafted in the first or second round? The measurement here is Pro Bowl /All Pro level of play. Most first/second round picks have not produced desired results consistent… Read more »

e

If Mac is putting on the life preserver, I’d say this ship is going down!

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Dman

Nice piece Mac.

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martinii

Bravo Mac, well said. Glad to see some concise criticism from someone whose opinion I have respected for years. I’ll admit I have reduced most of my post to antidotal rambling consistent with my ever shrinking inability to care. I’ve grown tired of wasting the few brain cells I have left on this reoccurring nightmare in Tampa.

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drdneast

Sorry, I meant to say both players said the scheme calls for them to tackle the ball carrier from the inside rather than set the edge.

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e

So, what about spending a few bucks to bring in Tony Dungy as President of Operations for the Bucs?

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pinkstob

I hate to say this because I love the guy and he deserved to be inducted into the Hall of Fame, but based on the many, many times I have heard Tony Dungy speak (and I also have his book) I think he is very wise but not all that smart. Being wise is making good decisions based on the information you have and being smart is how quickly and accurately you can anticipate and assimilate new information and do something productive with it. For that position I want someone who is both wise and brilliant. I want him (or… Read more »

Dman

Seems to be smart enough to be sitting on a few million $$$ with a Super Bowl ring and a gold HOF jacket….

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pinkstob

Warren Sapp has the same things.

Again I think Dungy is wise but not smart enough for the job. I don’t want the Bucs to become the Lakers with Magic in charge.

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Naplesfan

A PFO is better if he is wise than if he is smart. Being wise is being able to judge people and whether a GM candidate is smart enough, and wise enough, to judge talent and figure out what kind of talent is necessary to compete in today’s NFL, and maybe think out ahead a couple of years as well. I think that is something that Tony can easily pull off. Ditto with being a sounding board for the GM, and for the head coach (after all, he was extremely successful at that job, even if he no longer want’s… Read more »

e

Pink, I can’t account for who the wisest guy in the room is, but I’m sure that Einstein would f*$* up this team if he was our GM. Tony was the first person; along with Rich McKay, to find players that became the foundation for a long term winning team. Was it luck? I don’t know. He has a history with the franchise, and the ring to prove his worth. And, more importantly, I think he has the respect around the league to entice veteran coaches to want to come here and build something. I would bring Tony in, assuming… Read more »

pinkstob

Focusing in on a candidate before the process has even begun is how you hire the wrong candidate. That’s why we are in this mess now because that’s what we did with Dominik, Morris and Koetter. Let a firm or or board of directors do their job and review the pros and cons of 75 candidates, not us fans zeroing in on one who has previous ties with the team. If Dungy is truly the best man for the job the cream will rise to the top and he’ll get the job anyway. That’s why we ended up with the… Read more »

pinkstob

Naplesfan, if you’re going to pay someone that much money and give them that much power why not pick someone that is wise AND really smart? There are 7 billion of us on this planet to choose from. Why settle for wise and not brilliant when you can both?

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scubog

I’ve always believed my being a “smart ass” and not just wise or well…….smart, is my most valued trait. Quick wit versus a library of knowledge stored somewhere in my brain that, as I age, gets further and further lost in my memory banks. Dungy’s strength was surrounding himself with quality coaches, except maybe Mike Shula and his ability to influence his players. His downfall was his stubbornness. At this point he’s a familiar respected face who, at least initially, would cause the fans to think stability and direction was in our future. There may well be others who would… Read more »

pinkstob

Nope, I have no recommendations. My last recommendation was Schiano and the Bucs actually hired him a week or two later. That turned out so poorly that I fired myself from recommending people to lead this team.

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Dman

I think this article misses the point entirely. Everything starts at the top – with ownership. The best NFL franchises have the best owners. The Rooney family in Pittsburg, Robert Kraft in New England – how about Jeff Vinik with the Lightning. It starts at the top. Culverhouse was horrible. Malcom Glazer righted the Pewter Pirate Ship and we won a Super Bowl. He was a good owner. But as he aged and passed the team on to his sons, we’ve run aground. This generation of Glazers is just not as good as either their father or the elite owners… Read more »

tog

As someone who has a family company that is being turned over to the 4th generation (in a hyper competitive market), it’s INCREDIBLY hard to pass businesses down successfully. In our family it started from nothing (actually a baby carriage rental company) with the 1st generation, was bankrupted by the 2nd, completely turned around by the 3rd, and is being built more strongly by the 4th. If you’re particularly wealthy you too easily end up with incompetent schmucks who are used to wealth and power and not having to do anything to get it. Or you end up with kids… Read more »

Dman

Couldn’t agree more. And not trying to condesend to Brian, Joel Glazer, et al, but subsequent generations don’t always have the same drive, have not been honed by the prospect of losing everything and most importantly, haven’t developed the ability to identify talent. Malcom Glazer did that particularly well.

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dm4bucs

There is no curse. We lack players with talent. For every hit Jason L. has, we have multiple misses in either draft or FA. We like to say well we missed on that 2nd round pick, but we got a UDFA that produced when in fact them producing is more a product of us missing on so many talented prospects between rounds 1-4 in the draft.

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cobraboy

I don’t miss Alexander. The Bucs D has been no worse than with him in it.

I’d gut the entire D, coaches & players. There may be 3-4 keepers on that side of the ball, and that’s it. You could pick random D players from the draft or FA and not be any worse than the s#!tpile these guys show every week.

I have never loved and hated the same team at the same time so much in my life.

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Horse

We aren’t cursed Scott and you’re just creating fake news or is it just filler because you have nothing else to write about? This team is in serious trouble especially the Operational aspects of the Buccaneers. They don’t deserve the millions they are getting from the NFL. They aren’t prepared to adjust to the downward trend of a market drying up in the Tampa Bay area. How stupid not to reduce ticket prices especially for fans under 18 years of age to grow them into future Buccaneers ticket holders? Glazer’s, how can you run a Pro Football Enterprise like you… Read more »

owlykat

Good article Scott, but I kept waiting for you to mention the main Playmaker we had in the five win end of 2016 was starting Tandy at Safety, so the Bucs gave Smitty a big raise to keep him and then just put Tandy back on the bench; then Licht let Tandy walk! How stupid! Equally stupid was not leaving Tandy at CB which is what he played well at WVa when we drafted him. He is the same height as our best CB of all time, much faster, tough, and equally a great playmaker. We could really have used… Read more »

cgmaster27

So read today that mesean can return punts any time he wants per koetter. You see him out there returning punts? This is a microcosm of this ineptleadership. And then koetter makes him captain! How many ways can coach stoke this dude ego. He asked for a trade, doesnt want to return punts now either. The dude has been a cancer on every team hes been on. And koetter doesnt have the balls to tell his ass to get out there and return punts anyways! Weak coach equals a weak team. Time to move on. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit… Read more »

revfish

The problem is that some of our movers actually made sense at the time. If memory serves, Scott, I think you supported the Gruden move, Saving that he had lost the locker room and was a bit inconsistent or the players did not what he was saying at times. Forgive me if I am wrong. And call me crazy, but I remember that Doug William’s situation and remember reading that Tampa offered him $600,000. You do not report things that you don’t know, so were those old reports in accurate? Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes yet. Please… Read more »

Horse

If I remember correctly Williams was offered some cash and the rest of it was some Culverhouse real estate he was developing? Anybody else remember it?

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scubog

It was $400,000 (Dougie wanted $600,000) and as you remembered, interest in some real estate deal that ultimately proved to be a failure.

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scubog

I think it’s the “Curse of the Scubog Player Jersey”. At the end of last season I decided to buy a # 3 jersey since it looked like Jameis was turning the corner those last few games. As John Bellucci would say, “But noooooooooooooo”. I’m afraid my purchase has doomed the team. Only 8 more games to see if that seldom worn jersey will go in the closet with my Rhett, Barron (2 of those) Williams (both Caddy and Mike), Martin, Revis, Johnson, Eckwood, Testaverde, Jones, Dilfer and probably some others I’ve forgotten or dropped off at Goodwill. Hope my… Read more »

matador

If you believe in crowd sourcing, the clear conclusions from the posts above are:

1. Our GM has a terrible track record and needs to be replaced.

2. Unless the baby Glazers defer to someone with genuine football insight when choosing his replacement, the outcome may not be any better.

Probably forgetting a few but thanks to stlbucsfan, Naples and (as always) Mac for particularly well written posts (IMHO). It’s honestly the quality of the posts, not the articles, that keeps bringing me to the site.

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GrayBalls

Couldn’t agree more. I enjoy the articles, for the most part. But, it is definitely the comments that bring me back. Whether they are insightful, funny or just outright moronic

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liquidmuse3

This is real simple. Hire a good GM, and let him hire the coach. This hasn’t really happened since Rich McKay hired Tony Dungy. Glazer hired Gruden, Gruden hired Allen. The Glazers installed Morris and Dominik at the same time. Bill Belichick really hired Greg Schiano as he made a personal recommendation to the Glazers. Lovie Smith hired Jason Licht, and they simply promoted Dirk Koetter because of the Winston thing. Make Monken the new Kiffin, he’s the guy who stays on, but other than that, do something you haven’t done since the days of McKay and Dungy. Rate this… Read more »