It’s time for PewterReport.com’s 2-Point Conversion post-game column, which features two statements, two questions and two predictions based on the latest Bucs game. Tampa Bay lost its third-straight game of the year in Atlanta, 34-29, on Sunday. The Bucs defense allowed 24 points by the Falcons at halftime, and the team’s comeback effort fell short at the Atlanta 8-yard line as time expired.

2 BIG STATEMENTS

STATEMENT 1: Bucs Must Trade For CB Peterson
As much as they need to, the Bucs aren’t going to fire defensive coordinator Mike Smith. At least that’s what head coach Dirk Koetter says.

The last time a coordinator was fired in-season was Jim Bates, who was on Raheem Morris’ staff in 2009. Smith may get fired, but it will likely be at season’s end – unless the Glazers think they have seen enough and force Koetter to make a change right now.

Heck, it’s their team. And the move would be universally applauded.

While the Bucs may be stuck with Smith for the time being, they don’t have to be stuck with their existing personnel.

The 2019 NFL Draft won’t help the 2018 Buccaneers one bit. Free agency won’t come around for six more months, and won’t help this year’s defense, either. Smith and Koetter have to work with the players they’ve got, especially in a young and talent-depleted secondary.

Second-round cornerback Carlton Davis looks like he can become a good player if he can stay healthy. I’m not sold on fellow second-round cornerback MJ Stewart, who has shown he lacks the speed and athleticism to play in the slot thus far. Brent Grimes is 35 and a shell of his former self. Ryan Smith is a work in progress and may not be anything more than a reserve cornerback and special teams ace.

For heaven’s sake, Jason Licht – do something. This secondary is simply not competitive.

Get on the phone with your buddy and mentor Steve Keim and trade for Cardinals Pro Bowl cornerback Patrick Peterson, who is rumored to be on the trading block.

Cardinals CB Patrick Peterson and Bucs QB Jameis Winston - Photo by: Getty Images
Cardinals CB Patrick Peterson and Bucs QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Getty Images

Peterson, a seven-time Pro Bowler, immediately helps the Buccaneers and becomes the best defensive back in Tampa Bay the minute his flight arrives from Arizona if the team pursues this trade. The secondary could use his leadership, too, as he’s respected as team player that has helped develop younger defensive backs in Arizona.

It will cost at least a first-round pick, but anyone Licht drafts in the first round next year won’t be as good as Peterson will be in 2019. The 28-year old Peterson hasn’t slowed down and has at least three great years left in him. He has 22 interceptions in just over seven seasons and is capable of shutting down a team’s primary receiver.

At 6-foot-1, 203 pounds, Peterson has the size and speed to match up with Bucs killers like Atlanta’s Julio Jones, who had 10 catches for 143 yards on Sunday against Tampa Bay, New Orleans’ Michael Thomas, and Carolina’s Devin Funchess in the division. Peterson doesn’t have to play off coverage, which those receivers feast on. He thrives playing a more aggressive style of man coverage at the line of scrimmage, which this defense desperately needs right now.

Enough with Smith playing soft and scared with his play-calling. If he’s going to remain the play-caller, Licht needs to give him another premier weapon. We’ve seen how good the trade for Jason Pierre-Paul has worked out for the Bucs. Pierre-Paul, who was acquired for a third-round pick, has been the best defensive player in Tampa Bay to start the season and is leading the team in sacks with five, with all of them coming in the last four games.

The Bucs will probably have to restructure a deal or two to fit Peterson’s remaining salary ($7,562,500) under the team’s salary cap, but this is a deal worth pursuing for the rest of the 2018 season and beyond.

If Koetter gets fired at the end of the season Licht might go down with him. Licht has had five years to build a playoff-caliber roster. I think the talent is here in Tampa Bay to win 9-10 games, but I don’t have much faith in the defensive system and some of the current personnel in the secondary.

If Licht is going down with Koetter, he needs to go down with guns blazing. A first-round pick next year does nothing for Licht and Koetter if they aren’t here. Send next year’s first-round pick, defensive end Noah Spence and a mid-round pick if necessary to Arizona for Peterson and have a chance at salvaging the 2018 season.

Licht needs to do whatever it takes to pull this trade off. His friendship and background with Keim should only help. He either makes it happen or the Bucs continue to have the league’s worst pass defense all year.

STATEMENT 2: Another 2-3 Start For The Bucs – We Know How This Ends
With Sunday’s loss, the Bucs have now started the season with a 2-3 record for the fourth straight year, unfortunately. We know how those seasons ended – without a trip to the playoffs.

Expect the same this year, unfortunately.

Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter - Photo by: Mary Holt/PR
Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

The Bucs finished 6-10 after a 2-3 start in 2015, and it cost Lovie Smith his job after two seasons in Tampa Bay. Dirk Koetter won his first game as a head coach the next year in Atlanta, but that couldn’t stop another 2-3 start. Tampa Bay won five games in a row to get to 8-5 in 2016, but went 1-2 down the stretch to finish 9-7 and one win short of a playoff berth.

Last year’s 2-3 start ended in disaster with a 5-11 record. Quarterback Jameis Winston got hurt, Tampa Bay couldn’t sack groceries – let alone a quarterback – and the Bucs went 3-8 from Week 6 on.

Tampa Bay has six games coming up against winning teams and five games against losing teams, but Atlanta was 1-4 coming into this game, so does that even matter?

Bucs’ Remaining Opponents With Winning Records
Saints 4-1
Bengals 4-2
Redskins 3-2
Panthers 3-2 (twice)
Ravens 3-2

Bucs’ Remaining Opponents With Losing Records
Browns 2-3-1
Cowboys 2-3
Falcons 2-4
49ers 1-4
NY Giants 1-4

Tampa Bay was able to go on a five-game winning streak in 2016 largely due to the play of its defense. Right now the Bucs have the worst defense in the entire league, so don’t expect any five-game winning streaks down the stretch.

Will the Bucs’ 2018 record come close to 9-7 or will it be closer to last year’s 5-11 mark? I’m leaning towards the latter right now. Based on this three-game losing streak, aren’t you?

2 PROBING QUESTIONS

QUESTION 1: Where Are The Takeaways On Defense?
The Bucs have exactly one interception in five games this year. That lone pick came in Week 3 against Pittsburgh by free safety Justin Evans. The Bucs have forced four fumbles and have four fumble recoveries, so Tampa Bay is averaging one takeaway per game through five games.

But the reality is that the Bucs defense has not forced a takeaway over the past two games and they’ve lost both. No surprise.

Bucs CB Brent Grimes and MLB Kwon Alexander - Photo by: Mary Holt/PR
Bucs CB Brent Grimes and MLB Kwon Alexander – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

The Bucs will never get interceptions playing as much off coverage as they do. Mike Smith’s lack of press-man coverage is hurting the team’s chances of getting interceptions.

Exhibit A: defensive end Carl Nassib had the Bucs’ only pass breakup on Sunday.

None of the Bucs linebackers or defensive backs came close to breaking up a pass because Smith’s scheme lets receivers catch the ball and then attempts to make the tackle. That’s why Matt Ryan was able to complete 31-of-41 passes (75 percent) for 354 yards with three touchdowns and no interceptions and post a QB rating of 125.5 on Sunday.

Tampa Bay’s defense has two sacks in the last two games, which is not nearly enough. Both of those have come courtesy of defensive end Jason Pierre-Paul, who has a sack-fumble, but that came against Pittsburgh in Week 3.

Bucs cornerback Ryan Smith forced a fumble on a tackle of Calvin Ridley, but the ball went out of bounds and the Falcons retained possession and did not result in a takeaway. Tampa Bay’s defense gives up way too many yards – 400 yards or more in 20 of the last 37 games under Mike Smith, which is unacceptable – and way too many points – 33.2 points per game – to win without create at least two or three takeaways per game.

“We lose the turnover battle 2-0 today and it’s tough to win,” Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter said.

QUESTION 2: Is Ryan The Bucs’ Kryptonite?
Since losing the 2016 season opener, 31-24, Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan is now 4-0 against the Buccaneers, including Sunday’s 34-29 win against Tampa Bay. Ryan came into Sunday’s game completing 95-of-139 passes (68.3 percent) for 1,207 yards with eight touchdowns and no interceptions.

Ryan completed 31-of-41 (75 percent) passes for 354 yards with three touchdowns and no interceptions in Atlanta’s 34-29 victory. Now those stats swell to Ryan completing 70 percent of his passes for 1,561 yards – an average of 312 yards per game.

Imagine how many yards Ryan could have passed for if rookie receiver Calvin Ridley and veteran Mohamed Sanu hadn’t left the game in the first half with injuries?

More importantly, Ryan has thrown 11 touchdown passes and no interceptions in the last five games against Tampa Bay. Ryan is now dominating the Bucs the way Jake Delhomme did in Carolina in the 2000s and the way Brett Favre did with Green Bay in the 1990s.

Falcons QB Matt Ryan - Photo by: Mary Holt/PR
Falcons QB Matt Ryan – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

Ryan has been sacked just nine times in the last five games, an average of less than twice per game, which has contributed to his gaudy passing statistics against the Bucs. Ryan was masterful against Tampa Bay’s pitiful pass defense on Sunday, especially on third down.

“We got them in third-and-long, we couldn’t get off the field,” Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter said. “They finished 8-of-[13] [on third down], but in the first half it was third-and-9 and third-and-17 and whatever it was we couldn’t get off the field on third down. We pressured a lot more today. We hit Matt a few times. He hung in there and made some nice throws. We couldn’t get off the field – plain and simple. In the second half, the defense did an excellent job getting off the field. … We can’t play the tale of two halves. We can’t do that.”

2 BOLD PREDICTIONS

PREDICTION 1: The Bucs Will Beat The Browns
The Browns are a better team this year with rookie quarterback Baker Mayfield, the first overall draft pick in 2018, but they got pummeled by San Diego, 38-14 at home on Sunday. Cleveland’s defense gave up over 200 yards rushing, and Mayfield threw two interceptions to only one touchdown in the loss.

The Bucs offense has more balance thanks to a strong showing from Peyton Barber, who rushed for 82 yards on 13 carries (6.3 avg.). Barber also had four catches for 24 yards, including his first receiving touchdown. Tampa Bay rushed for a season-high 123 yards on 20 carries (6.2 avg.) against Atlanta, which has one of the league’s worst rushing defenses.

The Bucs can beat the Browns – and should – at home to stop a three-game losing skid and get back to .500 with a 3-3 record. If not, and the Bucs fall to 2-4, there will be calls for Dirk Koetter to be fired. Although Cleveland is a better team this year, evidenced by its 2-3-1 record – they are still the Browns, and a loss on Sunday would be a huge psychological blow to this team and its fan base.

Just like I predicted a shootout on Sunday in Atlanta and a narrow win by the Falcons, I think Tampa Bay avoids apocalypse and wins a close game against Cleveland.

PREDICTION 2: Smith Replaces Benenoch
Caleb Benenoch continues to struggle at right guard in both the running game and in pass protection. Benenoch gave up a key sack on third-and-5 from the Atlanta 11-yard line, which forced a field goal attempt in the third quarter. In the second quarter, Benenoch allowed a pressure that led to Winston being sacked on third-and-12.

Bucs G-C Evan Smith - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs G-C Evan Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

The Bucs have wanted Benenoch to be the right guard of the future, but he’s making too many costly mistakes and isn’t solid enough in either pass protection or run blocking to warrant starting at this point. Evan Smith has been subbing in about one-third of the snaps. That needs to change.

Smith needs to start and play two-thirds of the snaps with Benenoch playing only one third at the most. Smith is not a long-term solution at guard, and the Bucs better hope that Alex Cappa, the team’s third-round pick this year, can develop into that kind of player – and not the sack-waiting-to-happen guy that he was in the preseason.

Right now, Benenoch is a sack waiting to happen, and has given up five sacks in the last four games. That has to change.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

60 COMMENTS

  1. No, what good would bringing Peterson do if we have coaches that don’t know how to coach? He’s just going to look just as lost out there with mike smith running the defense.

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    • your kidding, great idea but doubt we will do deal. smith and koetter are gone anyway, we will NOT make winning record this year. so get peterson and try and get seahawks thomas too! plan for next year now!! This season over. winston is not answer, turnover machine, poor decisions, he will not get us to playoffs, trade to San francisco, plus we need new middle linebacker who doesn’t make mistake after mistake, just watch! our LBs are over-rated, by bucs fans only, (watch alexander-chasing rb for touchdown ~10yards away on coverage, and he was an outside backer at LSU, NOT middle man, maybe beckwith can replace alexander, appears to be real LB), oh yea, ohio state LB announcer for our game was bashing Alexanders play too, and benenoch sucks, release him, NO ONE will pic him up. He is worst player on our roster, absolutely BAD. Glazer’s might as well start over now, so we don’t have to see such poor team! i couldn’t care who doesn’t like my comments, because they are facts, just watch, if you have a f’ng clue, Bucs suck this year again, at least coaches worse than players, extremely disappointed. great idea on peterson, actually brings some hope, if only they do it?

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    • Bucs must trade for Doug Pederson, FTFY.

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  2. Players don’t fix coaching. Save our pics for the next regime.

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    • Whoever gave the thumbs down is an idiot! We need the high first round draft pick tht we are going to EARN with a horrible defensive coordinator! Let the next Leadership group have the draft stock. Don’t let these buffoons screw any more up!!!

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      • your an idiot, peterson would be best player on our roster, thank god ur not making ANY decisions for our team, although probably couldn’t do worse.

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        • Why are you calling anybody an idiot just because they don’t agree with you?

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  3. I have two bold predictions. This team will suck until they figure out Winston is average. Cleveland will beat Tampa with a real franchise QB by 14 points.

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    • You obviously don’t watch the games. Winston did not lose this game and he helped keep us in it. It’s our defense that is killing us.

      Go root for another team clown!

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      • I dunno. Ryan had no turnovers. Winston had two turnovers. Reverse those stats and Bucs win easily. I think Winston did lose the game for us in some ways.
        Our defense did a pretty good job for much of the second half. They were much better than against Chicago. Atlanta scored less points with a better offense.

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        • The defense looked comparatively better only after the Falc’s nos. 2 and 3 receivers were both knocked out of the game in the first half …. and even then the Bucs defense STILL couldn’t stop Julio Jones with nobody else for Ryan to throw to, plus the Falc’s best running back on the bench the entire game.

          I disagree with Scott’s prediction of a Bucs win against the Browns. The same D that made Trubiskey look like the best QB in the entire league is likely to make the Browns rookie QB look like offensive rookie of the year.

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        • Winston’s two picks were, respectively, a missed timing route resulting from Jackson being held and the officials not calling it, and a crazy carom from an on-target ball resulting from coverage that I have definitely seen called pass interference in the past (but is more of a gray area). Neither was Winston’s fault and to imply that Fitzpatrick would have done better is laughable.

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      • Did he keep us in it with his 2 pics? Just asking. Maybe it’s a different game if he makes better decisions.

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        • Nope but he sure kept this team in it with his 4 TDs. I love how people think QBs just grow on trees.this defense is historically bad. And you all just brush it off as if it’s nothing.

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          • You know I’m not a fan of Winston, but he played a good game, and the offense scored enough points to win (29) if the defense were reasonably decent. But alas, it wasn’t.

            This season is one dominated by high scoring offenses, so most teams aren’t playing great defense, and it appears to be driven in part by stronger rules protecting the quarterback, and a rash of talented young quarterbacks.

            But hey, there’s still the little problem of the fact in a season of historically weak defenses, the Bucs’ D is the worst of the worst.

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    • glad somebody has a clue, completely agree, get rid of Winston, average at best, will not be playoff team with his poor decisions, and turnover machine. doubt you could trade him?

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  4. I doubt they go for that. I’d do Brate, 2019 2nd and 5th round picks for Peterson

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    • Giving away Brate will temporarily solve one problem and create another one.

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  5. What good will CB Peterson do? The Bucs didn’t blow coverages against Jones by being out position, half the time they didn’t even cover him period with this horse shit scheme.

    This team and more specifically the defense is a joke. I lost count how many 3rd and longs we forced in first half by stopping the run etc only to have no pressure and wide open receivers every damn time and converted on third and long. Beyond pathetic and no excuse for it.

    Sick and tired of this crap. Same shit different week with this team. Smith is a total moron. He made few adjustments that should been there from beginning in second half but as usual not enough to climb out of the hole the created first half. Beyond frustrating watching this crap.

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    • AMEN!!!

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  6. Hey baron if Winston is the problem why did winless Steelers embarrass us on Monday night football? Or kill us whole game even when Winston wasn’t in Chicago?

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    • It’s not that Winston is the only problem, but if you throw $100mill at him, you’d be a fool. Just out of curiosity, how was that game winning drive today by JW? LMAO

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      • You mean the drive the we could’ve only
        Needed a field goal for if the defense hadn’t given up a field goal with no pressure on the quarterback, two of their three receivers out and their starting running back out and they still drove the field, killed the clock, and made a field goal. Putting that on Winston is beyond moronic

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        • But but but the kicker missed his kick. But but but the defense sucks. Keep making excuses for the guy. I don’t see this sh!t from packer fans or patriot fans. Bottom line is that Winston had a chance to win the game and Failed. So sick of this crap. Ask yourself if Roger’s, Brady, or even Mahomes gets it done at the end of this game against the Falcons D? No excuses. Letting this team off with excuses is why they suck. I’ve had it with this crap.

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          • He had a chance to win the game and failed? He led them all the way down the field and ran out of time because mike Evan’s didnt get out of bounds costing us a good 16 seconds. Jesus you’re a moron.

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          • Yes, he threw 2 picks. So F’ing what. He kept us in the game and threw 4 td’s. My favorite QB of all time Brett Farve, threw 336 interceptions. Hell, Mr perfect Tom Brady has thrown 166 picks. Unfortunately, he can’t play on defense, or we would have won the damn game.

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  7. Bad teams trade first round draft picks for veteran players. Remember how well trading that first round pick for Revis worked out? The only way good teams become good in the first place is by stockpiling picks and using those picks wisely. Bucs need to learn how to draft, plain and simple. Until they stock doing stupid crap like passing on obvious first round picks like James or throwing away a second rounder on a kicker, they will never be great.
    Save that first round pick for next year. Just use it wisely.

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    • The Revis trade didn’t work out because Schiano idiotically tried to force him to play within a scheme rather than letting him do what he was the best at. Trading for Peterson isn’t a questionable move because “it’s what bad teams do”, it’s a questionable move because it’s likely history will repeat itself and Smith will force him to play Smith’s way instead of changing his approach to maximize Peterson’s talents. If not for that, trading a first-rounder for Peterson is a frickin’ no-brainer (player in his prime, leader, reasonable contract with multiple years remaining after this season).

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      • My impression was that Revis didn’t work out, because he had no work ethic and he was just biding his time until he could play for a better team.

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    • yea ur right, keep drafting three dbs we got in this year draft and expect them to be good in rookie season. u see those results, they all suck now, maybe 1 or two will develop in next few years? u need some veterans who have skills, especially when your entire D sucks, we had one trade last year, and he has 5 sacks and will likely get double digits, that no one has done for years!! your clueless, glad your a fan and stupid at that !!!

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  8. It would be the height of folly to panic and give away first round draft picks to futilely attempt to salvage the fifth straight bad defense produced by Licht. If I were the owners I would not allow Light to mortgage the future of the franchise to make up for bad decisions already made.

    But then if I were the baby Glazers, I’d already have fired Light’s ass and his hand picked coaching staff as of the end of last season.

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  9. Trading picks and players for Peterson mid season is jut stupid. Why not see if Revis is willing to come back – offer him $10 million, $15 million, anything to throw bodies at a defense that just stinks. One guy isn’t going to make a difference at this point.

    After last season I was clamoring to trade McCoy. He’s never been great, now he’s barely average. But hey, instead, let’s draft more WR’s! No strength in the trenches – pray for Vita Vea – No high draft O lineman and a RB that doesn’t hit the hole. Any signs of Noah Spence? Good lord, just a mess.

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  10. Save the picks. There isn’t a player that can save this scheme. We have 2 CBs, 1 safety, an entire LB squad, and 2-3 Defensive Lineman that have been in this scheme for multiple years and we still look lost and confused half the time.

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  11. If I am the Glazers, I am picking up the phone and telling the GM he’s not allowed to use any future draft picks in rounds 1 through 5 to improve this year’s team.
    As long as Mike Smith is defensive coordinator we are going nowhere and if Dirk Koetter can’t figure that out then he needs to go too!
    Not a good suggestion Scott, it usually doesn’t work out.

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  12. I agree that we should save our draft picks for hopefully a different GM and coach next year.
    If the changes aren’t made it won’t matter if we have the picks or not, as Licht has so many more misses than hits.

    Anybody see what Derwin James has been doing for the Chargers ? Or how has are second round RB contributed this year??

    As usual, well before the end of October I am already looking at next years mock drafts.

    I just am so sick of the almost, so close, need a slight correction excuses after each game. If we had a defense that was only below average, we would be 4-1 right now and in first place in the South.

    I have zero confidence that we can beat the Browns. They have a top five defense and can run the ball. If we win the turnovers we have a chance, if we are negative we lose for sur.

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    • Apparently you weren’t keeping tabs on James today, because if you were you’d have seen the Browns’ defense get shredded by the Chargers, especially on the ground. Our running game showed signs of life today and if we can avoid falling into a large hole again next week, maybe we can take advantage of that next week. Cleveland is a team we can (and should) beat.

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      • tpeluso, Uh…James plays for the Chargers. He has a pick and 3.5 sacks. I can only dream how much better our defense would have been with him, instead of a slow, unmotivated Vea.

        ugh

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  13. I just want our team to have real NFL caliber coaches..

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  14. The fault for this losing streak is on the defense, and the scheme is to blame. Smith sent them out there today without changing a lick and the result was us getting shredded in the first half. There were some minor adjustments in the second half that helped, but what helped more was the Falcons losing two of their major WR weapons to injury and even with that, they still did enough for the first half to be fatal. Trading for Peterson isn’t going to help unless there are changes in the scheme to go along with it.

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  15. Mike Smith SUCKS…!!!

    Winston is worst.

    Can’t throw a DEEP ball.

    Jackson WIDE OPEN…over throws him.

    The king of turnovers (Winston)…had TWO in the red zone.

    His famous quote…”I got to get better.”

    He’s been saying that for the past 4 years.

    Bucs will be drafting in the top 3 next year. Jason will draft a long snapper with the number 1 pick.

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  16. I know Licht would never do such a trade, so I don’t bother worrying about it. Licht doesn’t sign big name FAs (after he got his fingers burned on Collins, Johnson and Vernor) and he certainly isn’t going to make a splash trade. That’s not our GM…end of story.

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  17. We would be better off trading for Deone Bucanon and playing him at SS.

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  18. RedBaron you are just misguided my friend. You mention the Packers and NE as if not having the gold standard of QBs makes u average lol. Jameis is 24 and improving don’t think Rodgers or Brady played a snap in a real game let alone lead an offense that requires perfection on 35-50 passes per night. Go find me a young qB thriving in a similar situation but I’ll help you out there isn’t any. Jameis marches us down the field on the opening drive for a TD only to be trailing the next time he took the field lol. A Mike Evans drop eary stalked a drive and the next thing you know it’s 21-6. You don’t think Jameis is well within his rights to press under those circumstances? The late hit on the sideline was good example of his growth, the old Jameis would’ve been in there drawing personal fouls and making the situation worse. He calmly pulled Jensen out of the scrum and kept his composure. He one at 24 is perfect but I see progress is his completion percentage, first drive looked better and he used all of the weapons instead of locking in on Mike Evans. You don’t throw away a progressing QB Bc he’s played with statically the worst defense in the NFL since he’s been QB.

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    • “Go find me a young qB thriving in a similar situation but I’ll help you out there isn’t any. ”

      Mahomes.

      The Chiefs defense sucks, but they are just a little bit better than ours. I would say we have better receivers, and I would even put O.J. Howard up against Travis Kelce. Both of these teams are pretty comparable except they are winning with great aggressive style play calling, like how we were doing it in the first two games, and we are not.

      So there you have it!

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      • I might add, I agree with you, in that Jameis is young and his best work is still ahead of him. He is way ahead of most notable NFL QB’s who came before him when you compare them to his age. We definitely have not seen the best of Jameis. I think he just needs proper guidance, and coaching, someone who will bring the best out of him. I really question if Koetter is that guy.

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  19. I don’t like posting when the circumstances are dire. I think I’m at my best when I can say something commendable, up-building, or inspirational. These are not those times. Our next game will be against the Browns. This should have been one of those games where you pencil in a Buc win. The Factory of Sadness as they are called will not be an easy win this time and this game will take on monumental proportions for our coaching staff if we lose. I’m not suggesting that people will be fired mid-season if they lose, but I do think a loss will set in motion changes that no matter what happens the remainder of the season, will mean an end to this administration. As such, no major trades or personnel changes, either players or coaches, is likely to be made. I take no solace in saying this, but sometimes change is inevitable and is best for everyone concerned. Go Bucs!

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  20. Read all the comments, some truth, and dispute in all of them. Blame the picks, or lack there of. Blame the kicker, Kwon missing assignments, McCoy’s big penalty that lead to a score, playing fifteen yards off coverage, Grimes old age, Benenoch can’t block, Dotson either, the scheme, the coaches, the meathead G.M.. Oh wait, it isn’t one thing, or one person. It’s all the above, a complete failure from top, to bottom. Peterson won’t save us from bad drafts, bad, players, and bad coaching. If we can sqweeze five more wins out of this season, we’ll be lucky. Time to hire a competent president of football operations, who can hire a G.M., coach.

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  21. Really? Asking Licht to make another move for Smith? No added players will change Smiths mindset. That’s on smith. Licht has done way too much for smith already. Look at the long list of offseason additions. Its a waste of time and money to put anything else into a smith led defense. I could go on n on but its pointless. The guy is scared. Finally takes a testosterone shot at halftime yesterday but its too little too late. How about a game plan going in? So depressing watching other teams play good defense. Adios smith or adios fans. I cant watch this team anymore until a change is made. Patrick Peterson and giving away picks and money wont help that. A change in philosophy will.

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  22. It blows my mind that people are saying that we do not need Patrick Peterson, clearly people on here know nothing about football. Now I do not think we will have to give up a 1st round pick. I think we can do it for a 2nd round pick and a player or 2. If we get Peterson now we have him for the rest of this season and 2 more years after this. I think him and Carlton Davis would make a great tandem together.

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    • Andy, I’m not saying we don’t need Peterson . We need Peterson and two more like him. I’m saying if a coaching change is imminent, and I for one believe if they lose to the Browns next week it’s almost a certainty – then no changes will occur until that is done. Just stands to reason!

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      • Yea but if its possible to get a very talented guy, why not go out and get him. That makes sense to me

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        • You obviously heard that DC Mike Smith has been fired. This or something like it could happen now and I hope it does. New guy will have some say! Go Bucs!

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          • Yea might as well go get a Top 5 corner in the league, he is a true shut down corner, work the salary cap out later. That way you will not have to address this early in the draft again next year. We can go after a safety, pass rusher, running back, and guard

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  23. So having to score 40 plus points to win on the road with no int’s is reasonable to you Winston blamers? Crazy.

    Anyways both those int’s should have had pass int. Called. I also saw Winston run for his life and scramble away from certain sacks several times. No way lot QBs can do that but you go ahead and keep blaming the QB. Until this defense and O line is fixed this team will not win many games I don’t care who QB is. They make a decision on Winston at end of year but few morons on here already have based on 1 1/2 games. Lol.

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  24. Well said Darin he finally got little aggressive after half and it worked! The Game was out of hand by then though like you said. He’s lost and no players we get will make a difference because he will not play them to their strengths. I could see Peterson locked on best WR and other guys still streaming wide open because secondary is lost.

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  25. Trade for Peterson, cut Grimes to make room under the cap, and then work out a deal to get David Johnson here as well. Next, fire Koetter at the end of the year and entice Bruce Arians out of retirement to coach this team. He has said how he would love to coach Jameis. He would have his best defensive player, his best offensive player, and a QB that he has always wanted to coach for a team that hails from a warm climate where most people one day would love to retire. Not to mention, it’s not too far from his home state. It wouldn’t get much better than this for him.

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  26. I’ll credit Scott for pointing out the obvious, that it’s the personnel in the secondary that needs changing more than anything and that it was Licht that acquired all of that personnel.

    The problem is while Scott wants to save his buddies job at all cost by mortgaging the teams future for a 28 year old corner, he needs to consider the long term health of the franchise which is best served by:

    1. Keeping the 1st round pick.
    2. Firing the incompetent GM to let someone else make that pick.

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  27. Now that we know there’s going to be changes in the defensive scheme and that Peterson might actually get used correctly, I’m all for trading for him.

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  28. a peterson trade would be almost as bold and impactful as the khalil mack move for the bears. it would be transformative for this defense to have to basically worry about one less weapon every week and that’s what a trade would bring. i’d happily part with a 1st rounder to have a top 5 CB for the next 3 to 5 years

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  29. And this suggestion means we would trade a top draft pick for the pleasure of watching Peterson caught between assignments, since the real problem is no one seems to know their assignments. Unless Peterson is a fantastic defensive coach, all he can do as one guy is play in the system his defense employs. This is a really bad idea. It’s not players, it’s far more fundamental to the scheme, the teaching of scheme, the practicing of scheme, the measurement of the success/failure of practice versus expected results — and now we have a fired Defensive Coordinator. Which won’t do anything if the rotten aspects of the process aren’t fixed.

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