It’s time for PewterReport.com’s 2-Point Conversion post-game column, which features two statements, two questions and two predictions based on the latest Bucs game. Tampa Bay lost its third game in a row when Detroit won it late in the fourth quarter, 24-21, to fall to 4-9 on the season. The Bucs were officially eliminated from the playoffs on Sunday and can finish no better than 7-9, but only if they win their final three games against Atlanta, Carolina and New Orleans.

TWO BIG STATEMENTS

STATEMENT 1: Winston Needs To Reduce Turnovers In 2018 – Or Else
I could write about just how awful the Ed Hoculi officiating crew was in blowing several calls on Sunday, but it makes my head hurt thinking about it.

I could also write about Ian Rapoport’s pre-game report on NFL Network citing a rift between Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter and quarterback Jameis Winston, but I have nothing to had on this right now other than the fact that during post-game press conferences Koetter said his relationship with Winston has been “consistent” over the last three years, and that Winston called the report “false.”

So instead, I’ll write about Winston’s unfortunate penchant for turnovers – he now has 53 in 42 games – and how 2018 needs to be the year they substantially decrease or the Bucs will have a very difficult decision to make regarding the former first overall pick in 2015. Despite the constant preaching from Koetter about protecting the ball, Winston has been a turnover machine and contributed three of the five turnovers in Sunday’s loss.

Winston’s Turnovers:
2017: 8 INTs, 4 lost fumbles – 10 games
2016: 18 INTs, 6 lost fumbles – 16 games
2015: 15 INTs, 2 lost fumbles – 16 games

Winston completed 26-of-38 passes for 285 yards with two touchdowns and two interceptions, in addition to losing a fumble. Every turnover has its own story.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston - Photo by: Mark Lomoglio/PR

Bucs QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Mark Lomoglio/PR

While Winston said it was a great play by Lions cornerback Darius Slay on the first interception, it looked like DeSean Jackson was slow to react to the pass and didn’t come back to the ball.

On the second interception, Winston and Koetter both agreed that O.J. Howard was held on the play-action pass and that’s what prevented the rookie tight end from getting open and catching the pass that Quentin Diggs wound up picking off.

Regarding Winston’s fumble, he said that sometimes those plays happen and that he “doesn’t have eyes in the back of his head.”

No matter the reason or the excuse for each interception or fumble, all 53 of those turnovers still show up on Winston’s stat sheet. They’re a problem, and as talented as Winston is, if he doesn’t reduce them next year in his fourth season, he may be long for Tampa Bay. Winston, who is 17-25 as a starter, will likely have the team pick up his fifth-year option for 2019 next May, but he’ll probably have a new head coach as it doesn’t look good for Koetter seeing a third year at the helm in Tampa Bay.

Whoever takes over next year will essentially have one year to get Winston’s game turned around with more wins and fewer turnovers, otherwise Winston will be the latest Bucs quarterback to be drafted by the team to not see a second contract, joining the likes of Vinny Testaverde, Trent Dilfer, Josh Freeman and others. Winston has only had Koetter and quarterbacks coach Mike Bajakian working with him since he’s entered the NFL in 2015. Perhaps a new head coach, offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach is necessary to get the best out of Winston the same way that Sean McVay is getting the best out of Jared Goff in Los Angeles.

If Winston can’t reduce the turnovers and increase the touchdowns and wins in 2018, the next head coach will likely want his own quarterback or risk suffering the same fate that Koetter will face at the end of 2017.

STATEMENT 2: Bucs Used A 2-4-5 Scheme On Defense
Early in the second quarter, the Bucs went to a 2-4-5 scheme on defense when defensive tackle Gerald McCoy went out with injuries to his right shoulder and biceps. The Bucs used Sealver Siliga and Will Clarke on run downs at the defensive tackle spots lined up in the B gaps, and inserted linebackers Kendell Beckwith and Davante Bond as stand up defensive ends at the line of scrimmage on third downs and obvious passing situations. The Bucs also had linebackers Lavonte David and Kwon Alexander in the game as nickel linebackers.

Part of the reason why the Bucs turned to this formation was due to McCoy’s injury, but this was also part of the game plan in order to get more speed on the field to help Tampa Bay’s struggling pass rush, which was last in the league coming into Sunday’s game with only 17 sacks. Without McCoy and backup three-technique defensive tackle Clinton McDonald, who was inactive with a back injury, defensive coordinator Mike Smith was essentially forced to use the 2-4-5 scheme, perhaps even more than he originally intended.

Yet what was the end result? No sacks.

Detroit quarterback Matthew Stafford dropped back to pass 44 times and was only hit three times. Nice try with the new scheme, Smitty, but no cigar.

Or sacks.

TWO PROBING QUESTIONS

QUESTION 1: Is McCoy’s Season Over?
One of the few players playing good, consistent football McCoy was in tears on the sidelines after injuring his biceps early in the second quarter. McCoy, who battled two biceps tears during the 2010 and ’11, has played through numerous injuries to his knees and hands over the years, and a muscle injury like a biceps injury might be tough for him to come back from with three games remaining.

If McCoy’s biceps is torn, then his season will certainly be over. He’s scheduled for an MRI tomorrow.

Bucs DT Gerald McCoy – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Bucs DT Gerald McCoy – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

“I just know my arm hurts,” McCoy said. “I don’t know. I’ve got to get an MRI tomorrow to see what’s going on.”

After the game, McCoy said he injured his arm on the first play of the game and tried to play through it but didn’t feel like he could help the team anymore. There was speculation in the locker room that he indeed suffered a torn biceps, and McCoy said the injury was “semi-serious.”

McCoy, who has been to five straight Pro Bowls dating back to 2012, is leading the Bucs in sacks this season with five sacks along with 40 tackles. McCoy is second among defensive tackles in sacks and is currently one of the top vote-getters for the Pro Bowl.

QUESTION 2: Is Koetter And His Staff Getting Fired At The End Of The Year?
Yes, I believe so.

Next question.

TWO BOLD PREDICTIONS

PREDICTION 1: Welcome To Awkwardville
The Buccaneers’ next game is on Monday Night Football against Atlanta. Former Tampa Bay head coach Jon Gruden will be at Raymond James Stadium – not only to call the game for ESPN’s Monday Night Football broadcast, but also to be inducted into the Bucs Ring of Honor. Gruden, who led Tampa Bay to its first and only Super Bowl victory in 2002, was fired in 2008, a year in which he became the Bucs’ all-time winningest head coach with 57 victories.

Before the game, Gruden and Monday Night Football play-by-play announcer Sean McDonough will have a very interesting production meeting with Koetter at the team hotel the day before the game as is usual protocol. I can only imagine what types of questions Gruden might ask. It could be very awkward.

“Dirk, the last time I saw you guys back in the preseason you were supposed to go to the playoffs. What the hell happened, man?”

Not only will Gruden be making a speech on the field at halftime, he’ll likely receive a warm reception from the Ray-Jay crowd and possible chants of “Gruden! Gruden!” could erupt as Koetter and the players return to the field from halftime. That could be another awkward moment.

To Koetter’s credit, he was classy when asked about Gruden’s return to Ray-Jay next Monday night and the “Grumors” out there about him possibly replacing Koetter next year as head coach.

PREDICTION 2: Martin Won’t Return To The Bucs In 2018
No. Doug Martin’s fate in Tampa Bay was sealed on Sunday when he lost a fumble in the second quarter and was benched in favor of Peyton Barber, who led the team for a second straight week with 58 yards on 12 carries (4.8 avg.), while Martin ran for just 26 yards and a touchdown on 10 carries (2.6 avg.).

Bucs RB Doug Martin - Photo by: Mark Lomoglio/PR

Bucs RB Doug Martin – Photo by: Mark Lomoglio/PR

Martin now has just 402 yards and three touchdowns on 129 carries (3.1 avg.) and is in danger of not hitting 500 yards rushing for the fourth time in the last five years. Martin, who turns 29 next year, is scheduled to make $6.75 million in 2018. Whether or not Koetter returns to coach the Bucs or if there is another person at the helm, Martin is not going to be back with the team. He’s just not worth the money and he’s not that good of a running back anymore.

The media can see that Barber is running the ball better than Martin right now, and the fans can see it, too. If Koetter can’t see that and ends up starting Martin again next week instead of Barber, he deserves to be fired before the end of the season.

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About the Author: Scott Reynolds

Scott Reynolds is in his 27th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive coordinator/defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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Hey Hey Tampa Bay
Hey Hey Tampa Bay
4 years ago

Giving Winston another year? We need to draft an unheralded later round QB who has brain power and all the physical tools and build an OL and running game. Stop the nonsense of Franchise QB and Affirmative Action at QB and Head Coach. We must break the chains of the treaty of ………….

SCLOBERNOCKER
SCLOBERNOCKER
Reply to  Hey Hey Tampa Bay
4 years ago

Affirmative action? Seriously bro? Get the hell outta here with that.

Buc-n-Philly Fan
Buc-n-Philly Fan
Reply to  Hey Hey Tampa Bay
4 years ago

Douche…..

surferdudes
4 years ago

Agree on Winston. He’s played two college seasons, hasn’t finished his third pro season at the ripe old age of 23. The Bucs have plenty of time to decide his fate. Next year is only his fourth season on a five year deal. They can play it like the Jags have done with Bortles, pick up his fifth year, or even franchise him as need be if they still aren’t sure. As for Koetter, and Licht, I’d fire them tomorrow. Spare Koetter the embarrassment of Gruden next week. Smith intern H.C., Duffner D.C., Monken O.C. to finish the season.

Jlog
Jlog
Reply to  surferdudes
4 years ago

Winston’s contract is only 4 years and there is nothing he’s done to suggest there is much of chance he’s getting resigned or extend. The Bucs would be wise to use their 1st pick to get one of the good ones that should be available in this years draft.

I don’t think you can fire Koetter without firing Smith, our problems start with Smith’s defense. So I can’t see the Bucs doing anything before the end of the season.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Sounds about right. Good Article. My only concern is can Gruden really Coach without a defense?

SCLOBERNOCKER
SCLOBERNOCKER
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Horse, look at gruden as a whole, not just as a TB head coach. Gruden took over a mediocre 4-12 oakland team (sound familiar?). The tradition year was more mediocrity ( albiet a much improved 8-8). From there on, gruden fielded a top 10 offense every year until being traded to TB. On the other side, defense was middle of the pack every year, save one where they were ranked in the top 10 (16, 9, 19). Gruden had his team competing ever year after 98. 8-8 twice, followed by 12-4 in 00, and 10-6 in 01, they year they… Read more »

MudManVA
MudManVA
Reply to  SCLOBERNOCKER
4 years ago

Horse just hates everything Gruden, nothing you say will quiet his bark.

seat26
seat26
4 years ago

I have to admit that a lot of what happened this year I did not expect. I really thought that Martin would return to his old form. I thought Winston to Jackson would be a regular thing and that we would run a two TE offense that would be unstoppable. Our Offensive line is not getting it done and looks pretty banged up. Our DL is non-existent. McCoy is out and if he does not return, I cannot see how we stop anyone. I would love to blame this on Koetter but I think it is deeper than that. I… Read more »

Amo
Amo
4 years ago

I think Winston is a very good quarterback. I also think he should baby-sit Hey Hey Tampa Bay’s daughter in the coming year. The allegations against him are completely false. He said so himself. He’s a good kid. I also want to commend Jon Gruden on his tasteful way of supporting the Buccaneers throughout this year beginning with Hard Knocks. He said he respects coaches who are currently employed and I believe him. Go Bucs!

EastEndBoy
EastEndBoy
4 years ago

I still have a hard time believing that our talent is overall markedly worse than any other team. We perhaps have our most talented players at the wrong positions for the 2017 version of the NFL – maybe a 3-technique, WLB and MLB are not the way to build a winning D. Maybe an offense filled with shiny toys but lacking the trench hogs is not the way to build a winning O. Or maybe we just can’t figure out a scheme to take advantage of the talent we have…presuming one exists. Either way, we have perchance for getting the… Read more »

scubog
scubog
Reply to  EastEndBoy
4 years ago

I’ve always believed that other than two or three special players, the talent is pretty much the same between teams. It’s the psyche of the team that makes the biggest difference. It looked like 2017 was going to at least be a decent season until the loss to the Patriots when PK Nick Folked us over. The mentality never recovered. This season the team has lost 4 games (Patriots, Bills, Packers and Lions) after taking the lead or tied late in the game only to lose.

Freeman Strickland
Freeman Strickland
4 years ago

The Martin fumble was unfortunate. But, he was trying to make something of a run that had been stuffed at the initial point of attack. Benching a guy for that kind of effort seems like a mistake. Extra ball security drills might be a better idea. But, another thing puzzles me. Once upon a time, Martin and Blount made a good combination. Sometimes they were on the field together, and sometimes they were rotated. Barber is not a Blount clone, exactly. But, it seems like a Martin and Barber combination could be used to similar effect. Not doing so is… Read more »

stlbucsfan
stlbucsfan
4 years ago

Jameis will be fine, replacing him in the draft would be a Cleveland Brown move and hopefully we aren’t that stupid. Write an article about finding a 3 down RB, or a OL that can open up a running lane or a DL that can pressure the QB, stop wasting time on stupid articles that would only set the organization back. Make or break season lol you gotta be kidding me.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

stlbucfan, I think PR is sending the Gruden hype again that he will come in and get us to the Superbowl like he did in 2002. Two problems I see with rhe PR hype. We don’t have a dynamic Defense as in the last run with Gruden and it would take trading some starting playesr where we have depth such as LB and WR in order to get more draft picks or swapping players with other teams. If Gruden came here we can’t give him the power to blow up everything and draft who he wants as he is weak… Read more »

stlbucsfan
stlbucsfan
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

I agree this is PR hype thing but its pretty idiotic to hear a fanbase say that a 23 year old guy who set passing records coming into the season is in a make or break season because this one didn’t turn out as expected. We don’t know if Jameis is playing through injury and the performance of the OL/play calling have done him no favors. There are obvious errors in his game but I think people forget Dak Prescott was also in the MVP talk last year after a great season and this year behind a second rate OL… Read more »

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

It’s long past its sell-by date to excuse Winston’s mediocre performance with his age as a “23 year old guy”. Three guys who have grossly-outperformed Winston this season are ages 22, 23, and 24 (i.e., DeShaun Watson, Jared Goff, and Carson Wentz), each of whom has much less NFL starting experience than Winston. Now, it could well be that those three quarterbacks have benefited from much better coaching than has Winston. The way to test that out is with the new coaching regime that is almost a given now for next season. I am pretty certain that if the new… Read more »

stlbucsfan
stlbucsfan
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

I just don’t agree that since his progression wasn’t at the level some expected that he hasn’t improved. Progression is not always linear and again what QBs are doing this year are not indicators that the success will continue. Goff had a terrible season last year and some thought he wasn’t worth the pick, now behind a better line and scheme he looks worth that pick after all. Jameis is not consistent and neither is this team, don’t lose a young QB that can win because it hasn’t happened during his first 3 seasons. There are too many crater sized… Read more »

matador
matador
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

I’ve been critical of Winston in the past but I agree with STL. While his ball placement is not as on point as some of the best QBs his overall accuracy is better, especially when he has time to throw. If Licht had done this the right way we’d have solidified both lines and would be icing the cake with skill players starting now. Instead he did it backwards, always the risk with a novice GM. Let’s learn from that and build the lines for two years with Winston as our QB. If two years from now he’s still a… Read more »

Buc 1976
Buc 1976
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

Dang I have said the same about the D line front to back not back to front.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  stlbucsfan
4 years ago

StlbucsfanThat makes a lot of sense. I didn’t know Harbaugh wants to leave Michigan?

stlbucsfan
stlbucsfan
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Not sure if he is, but teams are mentioning him. I’d imagine he’d listen given the right situation. A young QB already in place, a top 10 draft pick and the opportunity to work with the GM of his choosing would certainly be enticing. In this scenario I might even be ok keeping Licht since he’s the ultimate yes man and would due Harbaughs bidding. Gruden will bring a lot of headlines but Harbaugh is the meat and potatoes type of coach this team needs.

PissedOffBuc1988
PissedOffBuc1988
4 years ago

There is no excuse for koetter. He has the weapons to get it done and we consistently look like trash. Im through with us saying “we need to target this” “we need to get this player or that”. Im done with getting dissapointed, believing in,a team that continues to grossly under perform. We are constantly getting out coached and out classed by average to below average teams. We can’t beat a hundley led packers team? Wth? ??? That’s unacceptable. James needs to grow up quicker. He needs to start taking care of the ball and develop a calmer approach to… Read more »

Bucnut2
Bucnut2
4 years ago

Finally PR comes around to what I have been saying. No matter how much talent a player has he can’t hurt his team with TO. Winston’s numbers are off the charts BAD. He’s a nice guy, and good in the community but he is an average to below average NFL QB. Sorry guys, that’s what the is. I’ve been making lists of QB’s I would take ahead of Winston and there are 20 QB’s on the list. That makes Winston a below average QB for me.

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
4 years ago

The new regime, particularly if it does not include Licht, or it does but he is on a very short leash with a powerful head coach (like Jon Gruden), will give Winston a season to see what he can do under different coaching. And I expect they will also hedge their bets with mid-round quarterback draftee (too much need on the O and D lines to ignore that another year) who could back up Winston and maybe step in if needed. The new guys will NOT tie themselves Winston, sink or swim, as have Licht and Koetter. Winston is not… Read more »

Buc-n-Philly Fan
Buc-n-Philly Fan
Reply to  Naplesfan
4 years ago

Best thoughts in a while Naples…….

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Naplesfan
4 years ago

You seem to have forgotten our defense is bad and has been for a while. Eagles defense was not bad so they could take the chance and draft Wentz when they did. I agree that Winston needs some coaching and some offensive lineman.

scubog
scubog
Reply to  Naplesfan
4 years ago

Think the Eagles have a much better defense and running game?

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  scubog
4 years ago

That’s just excuse making. O lines don’t cause poor judgment by the quarterback, or poor throwing technique that makes his passes over 10 yards inaccurate. Great defenses have no effect whatsoever on how the quarterback performs. You are conflating success of a single player with the success of a 53-member team. The coaches are responsible for the latter – it is the individual player who is most responsible for the former. Even last season, when our team finished with a winning record and the defense was playing very well in the second half of the season, Jameis still had at… Read more »

scubog
scubog
Reply to  Naplesfan
4 years ago

I guess in your mind football isn’t a team game. You just have an agenda to blame the QB. Get over it Naples. Mariota is a Titan.

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  scubog
4 years ago

Stop it just stop it with the Mariota bullshit dude. There is nothing to get over, you sound just like Donald Trump who, whenever he gets in trouble with his big fat mouth, he resorts to calls for Hillary Clinton to be jailed for emails or whatever. It is just a silly stupid inane attempt to change the subject and deflect valid criticisms. YOU need to get over Mariota, not me. Jameis is responsible for his performance as a Buc, and virtually everybody who is not a Buc or Winston homer in the world of NFL football believes his performance… Read more »

surferdudes
4 years ago

Speaking of Mariota where are all his trolls today? Oh right, he got pounded yesterday, threw two picks, no T.D.’s, and his team lost to Blaine frigging Gabbert. We sure did draft the wrong Q.B.. Fellows it’s the NFL, this shit happens to all Q.B.’s. Ben threw five picks a couple of weeks ago, last night he threw for over 500 yards against one of the best D’s in football. Give it a rest with Winston. Not an excuse, he needs to get better, hopefully his next coach can get better results. Farve was a bust with the Falcons, Brees… Read more »

chefboho
chefboho
Reply to  surferdudes
4 years ago

Agreed surfer, I think Jamie’s needs help to develop and I think our current coaching isn’t working for him. You think Tom Brady became great on his own? Or that Drew Brees didn’t have Sean put on to thank for his blowing up when he went to the saints? Coaching makes all the difference, I don’t care what anyone else has to say about it. We just don’t have the leaders to control all this talent and to set them up for success. I look at clips of koetter on the sidelines and he has the same look lovie did,… Read more »

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  surferdudes
4 years ago

Sorry, your history is not true. Brett Favre was not a bust with the Falcons. He had exactly zero starts for the Falcons, and only played in two games for them, throwing a grand total of 4 pass attempts. He got traded as the third-depth quarterback to a team that needed a quarterback. As for Mariota, it is ridiculous to keep bringing him up as the all-purpose excuse for Winston’s mediocre performance. He is not a Buc, almost certainly never will be a Buc. The only thing that matters is what Winston does or does not do as a Buc.… Read more »

Brian
Brian
Reply to  Naplesfan
4 years ago

It’s not an excuse – it’s a comparison and it’s an on-going perspective reminder to all of the bucs fans who bemoaned not drafting him. Using Mariota as a comparison to Jameis makes a lot of sense since they were arguably both deserving of the #1 pick in the same year. Both went to crap teams, both play behind crap lines, both have talent around them in different ways. It is a fair comparison. You cannot keep diminishing this comparison while you use Deshaun Watson, Carson Wentz and Jared Goff as comparisons AGAINST Jameis in this very thread. Inconsistent to… Read more »

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  Brian
4 years ago

The entire Mariota-Winston thing was a hugely emotional internet war between the true believers in Winston and the skeptics who were not true believers. It was literally a war fillied with all manner of character assassination, not only of Mariota but of everybody who preferred Mariota over Winston. It was ugly as hell, much of it drummed up by Noles who were not Bucs fans to begin with. Massive amounts of online bullying, abuse, and anger. Who on earth would want to keep dredging up all of that, today, when it is immaterial. What matters is that Wiston has consistently… Read more »

Brian
Brian
Reply to  Naplesfan
4 years ago

This is probably the third time in as many posts that it seems you simply refuse to read the post that you choose to reply to. My response has nothing to do with what fueled the Mariota-Winston comparisons. It is simply to point out that it is, in fact, a very valid comparison irregardless of what you believe is going on with the motives of those making the comparison. Furthermore, I’m pointing out just how inconsistent it is of you, again, to refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of the comparison while you cherry pick your own comparisons to prove your… Read more »

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  Naplesfan
4 years ago

I read the entire post before commenting, unlike you who neglected to read the comment to which I responded, which was directted to Surferdudes, not you, and whose specifically resorted to the Mariota comparison, which I debunked and reject.

So you are invited, to butt out of this conversation.

MudManVA
MudManVA
Reply to  surferdudes
4 years ago

Well said, amen

Half these guys would eat their young if they went a day without food.

macabee
macabee
4 years ago

I’m going to post these stats because I know my fellow PR posters can read. I’m not going to explain every implication because I also know that for the most part you are intelligent people that can draw reasonable conclusions from statistical data. The first chart is NFL takeaways and giveaways by team. The Bucs are taking more than they are giving away. The Bucs are one of the best in the league at takeaways. Notice the giveaways by INT. No worse than many teams on their way to the playoffs. The Steelers clinched last night with a worse record.… Read more »

surferdudes
4 years ago

I brought up Mariota only to point out he’s brought up by others when Jameis doesn’t live up to their expectations. Farve was third on the depth chart, name the two who were ahead of him without googling it. The point being, don’t rush to judge, or throw away talent. Fans in Tampa are already throwing in the towel on Winston. They forget our own history. Doug Williams, Steve Young ring a bell? Better Coaching, better drafting is the answer. Licht, and Koetter are not getting it done.

jrwilson85
jrwilson85
4 years ago

If you want to see improvement from Jameis, draft a a LT. That should have been done last year in the 1st round. I think OJ Howard will be a great pick, but I see him as a luxury pick last year. The Bucs need to protect the QB and Smith isn’t quick enough to do it. This is just stupid drafting.

Brian
Brian
Reply to  jrwilson85
4 years ago

Amen.

CDNBUCSFAN
CDNBUCSFAN
4 years ago

I am a huge Bucs fan since 1996 and honestly I’ve never been so disappointed in them! We can argue who needs to go and who’s the QB and everything else but coaching and players believing in the coaching is too important to not be corrected ASAP. Look at the way that this team practices, executes and prepares. Look at any of the good teams this year or any other year and see how they are ready for each game, how they play through adversity and win ugly. Can anyone honestly say we see that in our 2017 Bucs? Our… Read more »

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

We’re never going to get to the playoffs without a good defensive team, just like most teams who get there. We need two defensive ends and a defensive tackle; maybe have to use 4 picks just to assure we have enough. We are finally down to the point we must have defensive lineman over everything else. Let’s stay focused on the real problem.

Charlie C
Charlie C
4 years ago

3 observations from a buc fan that took his lumps with Mccay, and the long list of coaches since: 1. There has never been a QB in the ENTIRE history of the Bucs, from 1976 to 2017 that has been signed to a second contract. 2. Teams that keep coaches longer than two years before firing them tend to do better than those who DO fire them. ( Looking at you, Cleveland and Tampa ). 3. Teams that impose their wills on the other teams wins championships. This is done by attacking and pressuring the QB, and having an offensive… Read more »

scubog
scubog
4 years ago

Jameis will get better because he has the work ethic and passion to do so. Give him a running game for which the opponent fears and a defense that can stop the opponent on third down and maybe close out the game and you’ll see the desired results. I have noticed the past two games he has shown more of a willingness to use his check-down. He’s nowhere near the “turnover machine” Vinny was. Come to think of it, Steve Young, Doug Williams and Trent Dilfer were pretty generous too.