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It’s that time of the NFL calendar when there’s not as much news in between the Senior Bowl and the NFL Combine, but there was big news for Pewter Report with the hiring of Jon Ledyard to the PR staff. Ledyard will be making his debut on the Pewter Nation Podcast at the combine in Indianapolis.

The combine is obviously important for scouting players, but it’s also a time where GMs and other executives get a chance to talk face to face and possibly work out some trades. One player that could get brought up that weekend is Bucs’ tight end O.J. Howard, who is coming off a down year. Should the Bucs entertain an offer for the young tight end? What would the return value be like? We discuss if this should be in consideration.

There’s been reports as well that the Arizona Cardinals might try to shop David Johnson due to the amount of money owed on his contract before deciding to just release him. Johnson played for Bruce Arians for years in Arizona, and a reunion could be coming. This is all hypothetical, but if the Bucs can work something out, how would he fit in the Bucs’ offense?

After recapping the Super Bowl, the group gets into other topics such as why John Lynch and Ronde Barber should be a Hall Of Famer and the how the decision on Jameis Winston will impact the Bucs for years to come. Stay tuned for a fun episode of the Pewter Nation Podcast.

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  1. Nice job on the podcast guys. Agree OJ could be a very low-cost option these next few years. However, with the draft not having the strongest TE group, believe a solid market for his services will emerge. The Dolphins appear to be a solid fit, with a need at TE while holding three 1st round picks (#5, #18, #26), along with a high pick in each remaining round as well. Maybe we send OJ and say a 4th for their #26 (ball-parking obviously). While Brate’s contract is substantial compared to OJ’s, he’s only the 16th highest-paid TE in the league in 2020. Believe his production and dependability outweigh OJ’s, even at that price point. In addition, Tanner Hudson is an overlooked replacement for both if either were to get moved. He actually offers better receiving skills than OJ at this point imo, though his blocking is still a work-in-progress no question. A room of Brate, Hudson, Auclair and McElroy should be able to get the job done with the limited use of the TE in BA’s offense.

    Definitely going to be an interesting off-season ramping up here in a just over a month. Excited to see how it develops. Bucs were 30th in attendance in 2019 (51K/game avg.), and that’s even with BA and the new staff coming to town. Was their worst draw since 2010. Was kind of shocking how quickly the buzz evaporated from when BA was hired to when the season began. Think that says a TON about the indifference of the local fan-base currently. Being a billion-dollar business, as you guys mentioned, hoping the organization realizes something needs to change. This franchise could definitely use a jolt and a breath of fresh air and renewed excitement. Believe unveiling new uniforms would be a great place to start, with an announcement in late Feb/early March prior to free agency. Add in the arrival of a few new faces in March-May, and we could have a solid jump-start to the 2020 season. GO BUCS!!

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    • Zero chance we get a first back for OJ even as part of a package. So far he’s the poster child for Sapp’s ‘looks like Tarzan plays like Jane’ observation.

      More likely will get a third or a very low second from a team like New England – and we should take it to bolster the OL/DL, or if Big Ass Hat is right draft yet another RB to make up for Licht’s over drafting of RoJo and completely whiffing on Sims.

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      • While it’s definitely possible OJ fails to bring a 1st as part of a package, love posters who state things as 100% fact as though they’re an NFL exec who has a clue what teams processes, views and rationales are. lol

        NE is definitely a match as well. Was going to use them in that example above but couldn’t find a definitive source on their actual # of selections. Have read they may have 12 (including three 3rds, 6ths, and 7ths) and have also seen only 5. If it’s 12, think they’d definitely be a player for OJ for sure. One of Miami’s 2nds or their 3rd might be an option as well for OJ alone too. Curious how it plays out.

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        • FLBoy, I would love to see us get a #1 but no one but Licht was willing to use a first on him when he was all upside before several years of disappointment. If the Bucs get a 1st please send this back and call me out and I will send you $100 via PayPal. You have my word.

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          • Not typically one to call others out for past posts. In the moment sometimes sure, but better things to do than go back looking for stuff like this. Thanks though LOL

            To be fair, we have no idea what those #20-#32 picks would’ve been if OJ was still on the board, as two other TE’s went in the 1st to the NYG (#23-Engram) and Browns (#29-Njoku). Interestingly enough, Miami traded for Julius Thomas prior to that ’17 draft, possibly believing Howard would’ve been gone by their pick at #22. That same FO is in place there still for this draft however and their #1 TE right now is Mike Gesicki, who ranked 40th with 22 receptions (OJ was 19th with 34, Brate 25th with 30). A bit of a stretch there, but it’s fun to speculate sometimes. LOL Agree though that the probability we get a #1 isn’t the highest, probably depends what we would throw in to make that happen. Do think though that Howard’s potential still holds intrigue to a lot of HC’s and OC’s and it only takes one team to pony up.

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  2. PR whats the news with the new CBA contract? Hope we don’t have another lockout. This is the last year of the old deal?

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  3. I think OJ got in Arians dog house. Arians had told the players to get a good night’s rest before a game. OJ was seen at the Ray’s game catching a foul ball. I would hate to see him go, but most of the time He is just used for blocking. IMO he should be used more in the passing game. He is 6″5′ or more and 4.5 TE.

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  4. Howard has to become a more consistent blocker, more aggressive grinding yards after the catch with his frame and be more aggressive in catching the ball at its highest point.

    People forget that Howard missed a lot of playing time early in his career and last season was the first season he actually finished a season as a pro if I recall correctly.

    Bottom line is Howard needs to improve across the board and put in the effort to become elite.

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  5. I have no problem trading Howard since this offense only uses TEs for blocking. But this idea that we can get a 1st or 2nd round pick for him is nonsense. Two years ago? maybe. We will be lucky to get a 4th or 5th round pick now. Especially since everyone knows that Coach isn’t big on TEs and we want to unload him.

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    • Haven’t heard anyone from the Bucs say they want to unload him. While Arians isn’t helping OJ’s trade value by continually using the “measurements don’t play, football players do” line, OJ’s contract isn’t such an albatross that he has to be moved. There’s no reason for the Bucs to trade him at all unless they get an impressive offer that meets their liking. He only had 2 less catches than Brate last year, so it’s not like he’s a slouch. And all the Bucs TE’s combined had 74 catches for 837yds and 5 TD’s, so it’s not like they’re only used for blocking by any means. That is a common misconception, but it’s more accurate that BA just simply uses them less than Koetter does typically. Was simply sharing an idea that if the Bucs wanted to add a pick or two in the draft, OJ might be one of the better pieces they have to do it. As far as compensation, we’ll have to wait and see. We can speculate, but none of us have a clue how teams value OJ at the moment. Our opinions are only based on our bias as Bucs fans.

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      • OJ caused Winston’s first interception of the season. Hit him in both hands on a perfect throw.
        OJ fumbled in the red zone against San Fran after TWO Brate TD’s were nullified by holding penalties on Dotson.
        OJ’s behind the back gaffe/interception vs Saints.
        OJ’s last INT he caused was vs the Colts on a pass right off his hands.

        Thats 4 on OJ that I can remember off the top of my head.

        I agree with @matador – OJ looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. Brate is much, much better.

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        • Don’t see anything in that comment stating OJ was better than Brate. Happen to prefer Brate over OJ personally, even if Brate did drop that critical 4th down pass vs the Falcons in Wk 17 that hit him squarely in the hands (remember that?) ;). Shit happens. Was simply stating that OJ’s measurable’s and untapped potential probably still hold intrigue for certain other coaches and GM’s out there who haven’t had the chance to work with him and think that they can “fix him”. And he would probably be one of the more intriguing players the Bucs could offer in trade if they were looking to move around the board or acquire more picks. That’s it.

          Btw, do find it a bit interesting that you seem so certain OJ is evidently incapable of improving as a player after 3 years in the league, yet at the same time also absolutely certain that JW is destined to improve after 5.

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