Like this, ran a very similar sim with pretty similar outcomes. I would love this. Although, I’d add another edge specialist (Maybe Mason Reiger or Nadame Tucker?) at 6 or 7.My final mock (not what I think Licht would do, but what I would)
*TRADE - TB receives #24 and #39 / CLE receives #15, #116, 2027 6th rounder*
R1 (#24) - Kadyn Proctor (OT)
R2 (#40) - Zion Young (EDGE)
R2 (#45) - Jacob Rodriguez (LB)
R3 (#77) - Kyle Louis (LB)
R5 (#155) - Devon Marshall (CB)
R6 (#196) - Tanner Koziol (TE)
R7 (#229) - Domani Jackson (CB)
…but I certainly wouldn’t be upset with this result.
@biggs3535 - I don’t think he’s a first rounder. But I’ve always been okay with taking him in the second round.
And I’ve watched more of him. My favorite ILB all last draft season was Carson Schwesinger, and he went earlier than I expected.
@biggs3535 - I don’t think he’s a first rounder. But I’ve always been okay with taking him in the second round.
And I’ve watched more of him. My favorite ILB all last draft season was Carson Schwesinger, and he went earlier than I expected.
10-4. And Schwesinger was a favorite of several of us last year. Dude was great prospect and a stud, which he proved by easily winning the DROY.
why do alot of mocks have us taking a damn tight end? Kenyon Sadiq
we can't keep neglecting the defensive side of the ball
we can't keep neglecting the defensive side of the ball
How are we “neglecting” it?
Three years ago, 3 of the top 4 picks were defense.
Two years ago, it was 2 of the top 4 picks.
Last year, it was 4 of the top 5 picks.
meaning first round talent
Hasnt Defense gotten worse each of the last few years? I think our last 2 first were Barton and egbuka right?
listen the offense should bounce back if Robinson is half the man of coen.
the defense needs all the help it can get with Bowles being part time DC
the defense needs all the help it can get with Bowles being part time DC
First off, your boy isn't a part time DC, and you know that. He's the full-time DC.
meaning first round talent
Oh...so NOW the measuring stick is FIRST ROUND talent.
Okay. Understood.
So, I'm sure if we reversed the actual results to...
Three years ago, 3 of the top 4 picks were offense, but the 1st round pick was defense.
Two years ago, it was 2 of the top 4 picks were offense, but the 1st round pick was defense.
Last year, it was 4 of the top 5 picks were offense, but the 1st round pick was defense.
...you obviously wouldn't complain and feel like the defense was being addressed, and not neglected.
Am I right?
For this team to win they need to stack talent everywhere and the needs will take care of themselves.
A quick glance at ourlads depth chart shows that:
Why wouldn't the Bucs consider drafting a QB late in the draft? Browning is more of a tank commander than a guy that can help you win a few games. Bazelak was a prolific passer in college and he did show some touch as a pro rookie. But he still has flaws that can't be ignored either.
Bucs do not have a big goal line back on their roster and they struggled in short yardage situations. Tucker was re-signed because the situation is that bad so drafting a RB with some size is on the table since KG has never been a bell cow ground and pound RB and Irving can't do it alone even if Tucker is rotating between the primary two. J. Williams has basically lost a roster spot with the arrival of KG and his salary. Owen Wright is basically all the Bucs have along with Tucker so they should do better and turn every stone they can find a big back runner.
At guard the team may like Scott, Haggard and Klein but they brought back Feeney and Bredeson which is not good enough protect Mayfield give his stature. Meanwhile Mauch is recovering from injury. Drafting a guard has to be in play if this team is serious about Mayfield beyond 2026.
OT is probably the most secure position on the team but if you can land a tackle better than Skule you always roll the dice. Especially a tackle that can kick inside and play guard. Bucs need help on the interior.
WR really need a big bodied X to allow the other WRs to do their work.
TE you have not true 1 and Culp/Durham/Kieft are solid reserves. Otton would do better with a TE1 that can stretch the field so he can do his work underneath ala Brate.
Kancey is small for an undertackle in this scheme and the Bucs are looking for a bigger UT that can also play some NT to give Vea a breather.
ILB need guys that can cover but also fill A gaps with size or strength. Bucs do not have any ILB with size or strength to stack and shed at the point of attack.
OLB requires some players that can play in space to disrupt passing lanes but also bring juice around tackles instead of relying on being flat footed and swallowed up.
Bucs need another boundary CB as depth or another NCB to compete with Roberts so Parrish can play some more boundary on the outside.
Safety isn't locked up either because what if Winfield Jr. doesn't regain his form? T. Smith should improve but he also free lances like Winfield Jr.. Wisdom and Banks have experience with the scheme but they couldn't beat out Izien or Merriweather for playing time. Killebrew is rehabbing an injury and is primarily a ST ace.
Bucs need to go BAP if they are serious about creating some distance from the rest of the NFCS.
meaning first round talent
Five of the last eight first rounders have been on defense. The defensive side of the ball hasn't been neglected. It's just the only one of those five that has been worth a shit is Vita Vea - and he was the only one selected while Todd Bowles wasn't in the building. All three offensive players (Wirfs, Barton, & EE) have been good, at least. But the defensive selections? That's the problem.
so are we debating just to debate.....this team goes offense in the first round tonight would be malpractice
defense is ass and you can attribute that to bowles being ass....but you can't neglect that we lack talent there as well. So does that mean Licht is ass too then if those picks havent worked out...white, kancey, Hall, JTR, etc.?
the offense is relatively set. to spend a first round pick on a #2 tight end would be retarded....draft for need like they did in 2020...that worked out well
so are we debating just to debate
No, I think we are correcting an incorrect statement, which is happens on message boards:
why do alot of mocks have us taking a damn tight end? Kenyon Sadiq
we can't keep neglecting the defensive side of the ball
The defensive side of the ball has not been neglected.
but you can't neglect that we lack talent there as well.
I don't think the usage of neglect is correct here either, brother. Nobody is "neglecting" that the defense needs more talent - I think everyone "acknowledges" that the defense is lacking. What is being said is the defense hasn't been neglected in the draft, in the first round or otherwise. It's been addressed. It's just been addressed poorly.
so are we debating just to debate
No, I think we are correcting an incorrect statement, which is happens on message boards:
why do alot of mocks have us taking a damn tight end? Kenyon Sadiq
we can't keep neglecting the defensive side of the ball
The defensive side of the ball has not been neglected.
but you can't neglect that we lack talent there as well.
I don't think the usage of neglect is correct here either, brother. Nobody is "neglecting" that the defense needs more talent - I think everyone "acknowledges" that the defense is lacking. What is being said is the defense hasn't been neglected in the draft, in the first round or otherwise. It's been addressed. It's just been addressed poorly.
agreed. that being said, what position are you eying up tonight?
agreed. that being said, what position are you eying up tonight?
I don't eye-up positions. I'm a BPA guy. Stick to your board. Don't reach or panic, stick to your board.
so are we debating just to debate
No, I think we are correcting an incorrect statement, which is happens on message boards:
why do alot of mocks have us taking a damn tight end? Kenyon Sadiq
we can't keep neglecting the defensive side of the ball
The defensive side of the ball has not been neglected.
but you can't neglect that we lack talent there as well.
I don't think the usage of neglect is correct here either, brother. Nobody is "neglecting" that the defense needs more talent - I think everyone "acknowledges" that the defense is lacking. What is being said is the defense hasn't been neglected in the draft, in the first round or otherwise. It's been addressed. It's just been addressed poorly.
Well stated, especially considering the constant moving of the goalposts by the OP.