Todd is much better as the Buc’s head coach than he was as the Jet’s winning percentage wise.
Agreed.
The other 2 are simply better.
Todd is much better as the Buc’s head coach than he was as the Jet’s winning percentage wise.
Agreed.
The other 2 are simply better.
Head to head, if you evaluated coaching decisions, coach Bowles is better than Sirianni. Dude seems to clam up against Todd. Also, Campbell and Ben shit their pants at home v Tampa last season.
This season, 2025, is the season Bowles should be judged by. That is how I am approaching it anyway.
Todd is much better as the Buc’s head coach than he was as the Jet’s winning percentage wise.
Agreed.
The other 2 are simply better.
Head to head, if you evaluated coaching decisions, coach Bowles is better than Sirianni. Dude seems to clam up against Todd. Also, Campbell and Ben shit their pants at home v Tampa last season.
This season, 2025, is the season Bowles should be judged by. That is how I am approaching it anyway.
a couple points
1 - when we faced the Eagles last year, we won 33-16 and they did not have AJ Brown or Devonte Smith. Wouldn't exactly say that they were even strength. How did we do without both Mike Evans and Chris Godwin? Believe we were 0-3.
2 - We spanked their ass in the 2023 playoffs but keep in mind the Eagles were in a nose dive losing 5 out of their last 6 regular season games including the likes of the Cardinals and Giants who had 4 and 6 wins respectively. They were toast from the start. Also believe they were missing AJ Brown.
3- they spanked us 25-11 in week 3 regular season game of 2023.
Dont get me wrong, we seem to be the eagles kryptonite these days but i would hardly use the last 2 games as a barometer. Sure we can gloat that we own them, but taking the pewter goggles off we beat them without their top 2 WRs last year and beat them in midst of an absolute collapse without their #1 WR.
I just hope we have Wirfs for our match-up this year. Would be a good measuring stick if both teams at relatively full strength.
Todd is much better as the Buc’s head coach than he was as the Jet’s winning percentage wise.
Agreed.
The other 2 are simply better.
Head to head, if you evaluated coaching decisions, coach Bowles is better than Sirianni. Dude seems to clam up against Todd. Also, Campbell and Ben shit their pants at home v Tampa last season.
This season, 2025, is the season Bowles should be judged by. That is how I am approaching it anyway.
a couple points
1 - when we faced the Eagles last year, we won 33-16 and they did not have AJ Brown or Devonte Smith. Wouldn't exactly say that they were even strength. How did we do without both Mike Evans and Chris Godwin? Believe we were 0-3.
2 - We spanked their ass in the 2023 playoffs but keep in mind the Eagles were in a nose dive losing 5 out of their last 6 regular season games including the likes of the Cardinals and Giants who had 4 and 6 wins respectively. They were toast from the start. Also believe they were missing AJ Brown.
3- they spanked us 25-11 in week 3 regular season game of 2023.
Dont get me wrong, we seem to be the eagles kryptonite these days but i would hardly use the last 2 games as a barometer. Sure we can gloat that we own them, but taking the pewter goggles off we beat them without their top 2 WRs last year and beat them in midst of an absolute collapse without their #1 WR.
I just hope we have Wirfs for our match-up this year. Would be a good measuring stick if both teams at relatively full strength.
Injuries are never an excuse.
This season, 2025, is the season Bowles should be judged by. That is how I am approaching it anyway.
Generous of you.
Ask Campbell and Sirianni where Bowles ranks as a coach.
One of these things are not like the others...
Campbell Regular Season Winning Percentage - .556% (Playoff Winning Percentage - .500%)
Nick Sirianni Regular Season Winning Percentage - .706% (Playoff Winning Percentage - .667%)
Todd Bowles Regular Season Winning Percentage - .449% (Playoff Winning Percentage - .250%)
Love your optimism and "rah rah" mentality, but Bowles isn't in the same category of these guys.
Todd is much better as the Buc’s head coach than he was as the Jet’s winning percentage wise.
I have to assume Sirianni can coach. I view Roseman as currently the best in the game on the GM side. Not sure Licht is too far behind but results are results.
Campbell on the other hand. He couldn’t have been in bigger sweet spot to grab eternity than he was last year. He blew it. Not the injuries, not the Rypien like statue of a QB they have, not the division they play in….he, Dan Campbell blew it. So now the Detroit Lions are unquestionably worse than they were this time last year. No Ben, no Glenn, and a team that will experience a let down as their division is getting better.
Bowles will be graded on this season, like Campbell was on last season. This is the best Tampa team personnel wise since 2021.
This ^^
Sirianni is a good coach, he also has a stacked team. Campbell is a good coach who turned the Lions around. Massive credit, but can he also push them over the top? Tony Dungy lost his job when he could not
Bowles is a good coach too. He and his staff were in a list at 26, but now he's being compared to two of the current best (2nd and 8th)? So, if you're going to make that comparison doesn't the current relative talent of rosters (2 and 3 versus 12, discussed on this board) and the current head-to-head matter?
Certainly more than. . . . the 2015 Jets? :-)
Sure we can gloat that we own them, but taking the pewter goggles off we beat them without their top 2 WRs last year and beat them in midst of an absolute collapse without their #1 WR.
I think that (injuries) is a fair point and REALISTIC, but on these boards its used selectively. lmao
The knuckleheads here will tell you that last season's injuries on defense did not matter. THOS SAME KNUCKLEHEADS also expressed anger and dismay when the Bucs used the first pick to draft an offensive player . . because . . well . . it was supposed to be an all defense draft.
Todd is much better as the Buc’s head coach than he was as the Jet’s winning percentage wise.
Agreed.
The other 2 are simply better.
Head to head, if you evaluated coaching decisions, coach Bowles is better than Sirianni. Dude seems to clam up against Todd. Also, Campbell and Ben shit their pants at home v Tampa last season.
This season, 2025, is the season Bowles should be judged by. That is how I am approaching it anyway.
a couple points
1 - when we faced the Eagles last year, we won 33-16 and they did not have AJ Brown or Devonte Smith. Wouldn't exactly say that they were even strength. How did we do without both Mike Evans and Chris Godwin? Believe we were 0-3.
2 - We spanked their ass in the 2023 playoffs but keep in mind the Eagles were in a nose dive losing 5 out of their last 6 regular season games including the likes of the Cardinals and Giants who had 4 and 6 wins respectively. They were toast from the start. Also believe they were missing AJ Brown.
3- they spanked us 25-11 in week 3 regular season game of 2023.
Dont get me wrong, we seem to be the eagles kryptonite these days but i would hardly use the last 2 games as a barometer. Sure we can gloat that we own them, but taking the pewter goggles off we beat them without their top 2 WRs last year and beat them in midst of an absolute collapse without their #1 WR.
I just hope we have Wirfs for our match-up this year. Would be a good measuring stick if both teams at relatively full strength.
Injuries are never an excuse.
I remember high school slogan was “no excuses, blame yourself”. It’s a cute slogan but not reality
Injuries to prominent players are most definitely a reasonable excuse. Doesn’t mean you get a win for those losses, but let’s be real.
We went 0-3 without our top 2 WRs despite great efforts by baker and team. Do some of those losses become wins if we are at full strength? Who knows
We went 0-3 without our top 2 WRs despite great efforts by baker and team. Do some of those losses become wins if we are at full strength? Who knows
We probably beat the Falcons at home (big one) and maybe beat the 49ers.
Football is a team sport. Take away one key part and the impact is felt more than the stats of that one player. Mike Evans is way more effective with a fully healthy Godwin and vice versa. Bucky Irving has more lanes to run if the defense is dropping to protect against Evans running deep.
Same stuff on defense. Once you take out the coverage LB then everyone is shading toward the player being covered by Britt. Two inexperienced safeties playing way differently than with AWJ in and healthy etc.
reality
The "injuries dont matter" group were mostly the same who said things like "playoffs didnt matter" in 2023 and and then last year "anything less than 10 wins is failure." meaning . . they were driving an agenda so reality didnt matter much where it worked against the anti-Bowles position
We went 0-3 without our top 2 WRs despite great efforts by baker and team. Do some of those losses become wins if we are at full strength? Who knows
Good chance that they become wins.
But, you know what’s worse than injuries to your star players?
Ones that are due to coaching incompetence.
and listen, injuries are part of the game but there's a difference between a team being down their 21st and 22nd best starters and teams being down their star players.
yeah if Ben Bredeson and Anthony Walker are out, we can't claim injuries with a serious face. But replace those with Tristian Wirfs and Mike Evans and you have a better arguement.
same goes for Eagles. Being Down AJ Brown is apples and bowling balls with them being down Nakobe Dean
To fully appreciate the Glazers and Licht's leadership just look at The Boys
"https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dez-bryant-roc-nation-take-issue-with-jerry-jones?cid=nbcnews
Simms is on with a piece that is entitled: "Super Bowl and circus don’t go together'
Maybe not, but maybe Dak and company prove him wrong.
yeah if Ben Bredeson and Anthony Walker are out, we can't claim injuries with a serious face. But replace those with Tristian Wirfs and Mike Evans and you have a better arguement.
For sure.
If our starting O-line is Wirfs and a few mediocre players his loss to injury is worse for the team and all the more so if he plays 2025 injured, in and out of the line up. In the same respect, Wirf lost early with a line that is still intact with the 2024 talent level at all the other positions, the damage is potentially less. Just like losing Evans. if you lose him late and Godwin is back and Egbuka plahing strong, the impact is still bad, but less so because of the DEPTH. The 2024 offense had more depth of talent that the defense to beign with thats why everyone - even the "injuries dont matter" crew - expected this offseason to be defense, defense and more defense.
There's a reason Licht credited Bowles for doing well "with what he had." That was Licht who said that. All world Licht. But, post that same thought here and it comes back to you iN cRAZy FoNT lmao
Tweedle trolly trolls gonna troll
More Licht, minus the crazy font
"I’m really, really excited, knock on wood, about getting to the season with Antoine [Winfield] and Tykee [Smith] as our two safeties, two playmakers, two guys that can blitz, two guys that are tough, two guys with great instincts, with great ball skills — that make plays with effort but also their athleticism,” Licht said. “I think it’s going to be night-and-day this year, our defense, compared to last year. I’m really looking forward to it.”
weird
To fully appreciate the Glazers and Licht's leadership just look at The Boys
"https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dez-bryant-roc-nation-take-issue-with-jerry-jones?cid=nbcnews
Simms is on with a piece that is entitled: "Super Bowl and circus don’t go together'
Maybe not, but maybe Dak and company prove him wrong.
While I love Pickens in the Cowboy’s offense, this team is further away from the Super Bowl than the Cardinals. The Cowboys won’t get back until Jerry is out of the picture. They chase too many shiny objects and have no real culture in the building. Not great.