The problem with the Bucs interior OL depth last season was they had to resort to brining outsiders and not even use players like Klein who were already on the roster. Brining back Feeney and then drafting Schrauth wasn't a big attempt by Licht's part to improve.
Chuk and Skule with Barton moonighting at LT is more than enough than most NFL teams can put together as tackle depth.
Lichts #1 objective should have been to obtain a guard that can step in, because you can always have Bredeson kick to center if Barton has to move or is out. Or have Feeney play center and have Barton move. Mauch being out really stalled the Bucs run game and Mayfield can make magic happen but he needs help.
The problem with the Bucs interior OL depth last season was they had to resort to brining outsiders and not even use players like Klein
Yep.
I think the Lions just added Klein to their PS so they must see something. he sure didnt help last year, as you say.
Lichts #1 objective should have been to obtain a guard that can step in,
agree
The problem with the Bucs interior OL depth last season was they had to resort to brining outsiders and not even use players like Klein who were already on the roster.
Correct. They had to bring in and play outside FA's because the guy they drafted sucks. Klein couldn't run block for shit. Interestingly enough, the Lions just added him to their PS - because OL depth across the league is pretty poor.
It turns out simply drafting backups may not be the only answer.
But he doesn't do anything great either. He's exactly average,
He has absolute elite speed and is a home run threat.
From a pure running perspective, he's above average.
That being said, he's absolute trash in pass protection.
Not, Bucky bad (might be the worst in the league)...but it's pretty close.
Yet one is the starter and one is hanging on by a thread
And, yet, they still gave $10M in guaranteed money to Gainwell.
Relax guy, Oregon players can be criticized too.
They’re not some untouchable species.
Hey I'm just taking receipts on those saying Bucky was a one year wonder. Even for as inefficient as he was last year he still made big plays.
Gainwell is a good back and needed because Bucky doesn't have the frame for 20+ touches every game.
But for as homerish as I can be, you're seemingly on the hater train. I believe you said I hope he plays well so we can trade him (paraphrase).
Which is fine but I think he kills it this year in a 60/40 split with Gainwell.
And I also agree with you that his pass protection has been shit. But he's an amazing receiving threat.
The problem with the Bucs interior OL depth last season was they had to resort to brining outsiders and not even use players like Klein who were already on the roster.
Correct. They had to bring in and play outside FA's because the guy they drafted sucks. Klein couldn't run block for shit. Interestingly enough, the Lions just added him to their PS - because OL depth across the league is pretty poor.
It turns out simply drafting backups may not be the only answer.
Drafting depth is absolutely the answer. I don't understand this logic.
That's the whole point of rounds 4-7. Depth and projects and special teams.
Even for as inefficient as he was last year he still made big plays.
He was EXTREMELY inefficient last year. And, that was BEFORE he was injured.
Gainwell is a good back and needed because Bucky doesn't have the frame for 20+ touches every game.
Agreed.
I think it'll be a 1A / 1B situation. And, that would be a good thing to keep everyone fresh.
But for as homerish as I can be, you're seemingly on the hater train. I believe you said I hope he plays well so we can trade him (paraphrase).
Me wanting to trade him if he has a great year isn't being on the "hater train".
I simply don't view him as a "true RB1" that I'm willing to sign to a big contract.
Nothing more, nothing less.
The problem with the Bucs interior OL depth last season was they had to resort to brining outsiders and not even use players like Klein who were already on the roster.
Correct. They had to bring in and play outside FA's because the guy they drafted sucks. Klein couldn't run block for shit. Interestingly enough, the Lions just added him to their PS - because OL depth across the league is pretty poor.
It turns out simply drafting backups may not be the only answer.
Drafting depth is absolutely the answer. I don't understand this logic.
That's the whole point of rounds 4-7. Depth and projects and special teams.
The problem is those projects don’t always pan out, like Klein. That draft pick had to be supplemented with a FA, a cheap FA, because he didn’t work out.
There are people here acting like the team hasn’t drafted offensive linemen. Obviously, that isn’t true. And they’ve been lucky to get some snaps out of some UDFA, as well as those draft picks.
The problem with the Bucs interior OL depth last season was they had to resort to brining outsiders and not even use players like Klein who were already on the roster.
Correct. They had to bring in and play outside FA's because the guy they drafted sucks. Klein couldn't run block for shit. Interestingly enough, the Lions just added him to their PS - because OL depth across the league is pretty poor.
It turns out simply drafting backups may not be the only answer.
Drafting depth is absolutely the answer. I don't understand this logic.
That's the whole point of rounds 4-7. Depth and projects and special teams.
The problem is those projects don’t always pan out, like Klein. That draft pick had to be supplemented with a FA, a cheap FA, because he didn’t work out.
There are people here acting like the team hasn’t drafted offensive linemen. Obviously, that isn’t true. And they’ve been lucky to get some snaps out of some UDFA, as well as those draft picks.
I think most of the time people are saying lineman x was available instead we took player x.
Licht hasn't really committed to o-line depth.
This draft he prioritized wr depth and cb depth over it in rounds 3 & 4. I still like both of those picks and I'm not trying to say he got it wrong, but I think it's the strategy.
Then he takes a hurt lineman which doesn't really solve the depth issue.
Then DT depth and TE depth. I didn't love either of those picks but who knows.
Either way, it's not as black and white as "he applied capital". It's where when and how.
Even for as inefficient as he was last year he still made big plays.
He was EXTREMELY inefficient last year. And, that was BEFORE he was injured.
Gainwell is a good back and needed because Bucky doesn't have the frame for 20+ touches every game.
Agreed.
I think it'll be a 1A / 1B situation. And, that would be a good thing to keep everyone fresh.
But for as homerish as I can be, you're seemingly on the hater train. I believe you said I hope he plays well so we can trade him (paraphrase).
Me wanting to trade him if he has a great year isn't being on the "hater train".
I simply don't view him as a "true RB1" that I'm willing to sign to a big contract.
Nothing more, nothing less.
Well yeah, signing RBs to big contracts is a death sentence. Just draf the replacement. We should get 4 full years out of Bucky then let him get signed and get the comp pick.
Hopefully Licht learned the lesson after giving Fournette that contract.
Also I'm not buying the efficiency stuff with Bucky last year just like I didn't buy it with White the year prior.
I'm not sure where the hell Bucky was supposed to go most of the time when Grizz ran right into our weakness. Plays were getting blown up in the backfield.
Had he played in the bills game instead of Tucker the stats would look wildly different.
The offense was a mess. Baker scrambling masked everything. That was legit as bad as Lefty's last year. Maybe worse since Brady was mentally checked out and immobile.
