2. We have 27 year old Diaby locked in at 1 year, 3.9M. You can’t lump it in with 28-31 year old at $23M+. This is likely going to be Diaby’s best year. If you extend him now you throw away that value. And what are we really paying for? He’s not that good of a pass rusher. Hes a slightly better version of Greg Spires. We can replace his production fairly easily.
Agreed.
Let him play out the year, and get a pay day somewhere else if he "pops".
@jc5100 - we agree on Yaya. But that doesn’t mean Licht does. He paid Winfield so much that he was the highest paid defensive back for 2 seasons. Ridiculous. He’s a fine player, but he’s not even a top 5 safety now.
And Licht re-upped McCullom early for too much money. Like I’ve said a hundred times, keeping your own guys for too much money is just as bad as bad free agency signings.
On this point, do we really feel Licht won’t pay Yaya $20M+ a year even if he gets 7 sacks this year? I think he does. He’s all about continuity. And those choices have been hurting this team. He plays things way too safe.
@jc5100 - we agree on Yaya. But that doesn’t mean Licht does. He paid Winfield so much that he was the highest paid defensive back for 2 seasons. Ridiculous. He’s a fine player, but he’s not even a top 5 safety now.
And Licht re-upped McCullom early for too much money. Like I’ve said a hundred times, keeping your own guys for too much money is just as bad as bad free agency signings.
On this point, do we really feel Licht won’t pay Yaya $20M+ a year even if he gets 7 sacks this year? I think he does. He’s all about continuity. And those choices have been hurting this team. He plays things way too safe.
I hope he doesn’t. The Edge market is out of control because of positional importance but I think there’s enough of a supply that the market is way too high. I’d rather a room full of guys on rookie contracts and young vets on 1 year prove it deals.
Nice choice of words. "Developed elsewhere". You know Shaq Barrett is the problem with your theory on Bowles. He had 14 sacks in 4 years with Denver then exploded under Bowles. So you throw that little "doesn't count!" caveat in there.
So, he developed for four years in Denver and was never a starter. That was because of who was playing ahead of him.
- Von Miller (Super Bowl MVP, franchise cornerstone)
- DeMarcus Ware (future Hall of Famer)
It would be fair to say that Barret learned how to play in Denver as an understudy to both of those players. When he got here, he exploded not because Bowles is great, but because he was well coached in Denver and got the chance to play in Tampa.
Name ONE other player that Bowles coached up, and I will give your theory a second thought.
Name ONE other player that Bowles coached up,
I am not sure what people mean by developed? I think of developed as taking a player with relatively modest expectations and turning him into something more? Either way though, Bowles has both positives and negatives because of the length of his tenure.
For example, he got the best out of White and AWJ when they had zero NFL experience. So, he coached them up. White also regressed under Bowles, but to me that is on White. AWJ has arguably regressed. Maybe that is on Bowles and his system. SMB played well. Maybe the other safety Whitehead played his best overall in stint 1 but then sucked in stint 2.
Carlton Davis best years were with Bucs? Hall talks like he feels liberated by joining the Texans, so will Hall's play improve now (Bowles held him back) or will he regress (Bowles got more out of him)?
Hard to say because its a team sport. but in this example, people are saying that Barreet was developed at Denver, but because of playing behind two all time greats. Who has Hall been playing behind? Or who was the Denver coach who "developed" Barrett? They changed DCs right in the middle of his time there.
I am not sure what people mean by developed?
I should have been more specific. That is on me.
Bowles does well with DBs. He has been shit with Edge rushers. I should have said name one other edge rusher that developed under Bowles.
Hard to say because its a team sport. but in this example, people are saying that Barreet was developed at Denver, but because of playing behind two all time greats. Who has Hall been playing behind? Or who was the Denver coach who "developed" Barrett? They changed DCs right in the middle of his time there.
Who Hall was playing behind does not matter. The subject was Bowles' ability to develop an edge rusher.
The coaches for Barret were:
- Jack Del Rio (2014)
- Wade Phillips (2015–2016)
- Joe Woods (2017–2018)
Position Coach:
- Fred Pagac (Outside Linebackers)
I would place Del Rio and Phillips above Bowles.