The 5 OL starters never played a snap together and 4 of the 5 only play 2 games together (2-0).
it’s a bitch-baby excuse.
Bullshit. Injuries, in a game that mostly requires 22 different players with 22 different skill sets, they will always be the biggest indicator of success.
San Francisco, in arguably the best division in football, didn’t need the injury excuse.
Tampa Bay, in arguably the worst division in football, needed the injury excuse.
Leghump away, slugger.
needed the injury excuse.
As I posted above it's asinine to downplay injuries last season but that is what you have to do if you're worried about injuries as an "excuse"
Part of this injury problem is on our GM. He seems to place all his search criteria on if a guy is a “leader” with zero consideration for their health or injury history. He let Carlton Davis walk in FA because he was oft injured, but resigned a crippled Godwin last offseason and then invested a second round pick on Benjamin Morrison, who went on to miss a ton of games last season, after having injury problems at Notre Dame. Surprise surprise.
Part of this injury problem is on our GM.
For sure. For the reasons you discuss (drafting/signing injured guys) and I would add the current lack of depth, some of which is driven by the team's post Super bowl salary structure. As SR pointed out the team has a lot of $20 million plus players who only provided limited returns. Evans is now gone, LVD is gone. Soon Vea? Maybe Godwin? AWJ?
This all trickles down tot he depth (or lack of quality depth) at the bottom of the roster. For example, in 2023 and 2024 Skule was a back up tackle for the Bucs. He's not great, but he's better than Hecht. He's back now after leaving to the Vikings for $2 million, maybe? That may have bene too much, but youre more exposed to losing guys like Skule when you have a lot of $ already in the line and elsewhere. Cant have everyone.
San Francisco . . .didn’t need the injury excuse.
This stuff it sort of stuff - 49ers versus Bucs - is mostly silly repeating of things read on the Interweb. Its not quite that way though if you look at the details
The Bucs are an inferior team to the 49ers, especially by virtue of their offensive play calling (Shanahan versus Grizz lol), but if you just look at the snap counts on offense the GROSS numbers are very close. The Bucs offensive starters ended up playing an average of 60% of the offensive snaps. The 49ers starters played around 62%
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/2025-snap-counts.htm
The 49ers suffered the loss of Purdy and that is BIG but they got good back up QB play. Mayfield payed 96% of the snaps BUT to any observer he was not himself late in the season due to his injury.
The 49ers lost Bartch on their O-line, but the other guys including Trent Williams average out to about 90% of the snaps.
By comparison, the Bucs lose Mauch (better than Bartch) and then their keys guys, Wirfs and Goedeke, only average about 65% of the snaps. A back up in Bredeson is only in 58% so there is also a rotation of bad of Guard all season. And even their most durable guy, Barton at 100% of snaps, plays multiple games out of position the get to 100% of snaps. The 2024 Bucs dominated with O-line play, in 2025 to O-line was on constant shuffle.
CMC is the centerpiece of the 49ers offense and he played 83% of the snaps behind a fairly intact line. Irving only plays 37% of the snaps and behind a makeshift line.
The "stars" of the Bucs offense are the WRs so Evans is 31% of the snaps and Godwin is 37%. They make up for that with Egbuka. The 49ers get about 60% snaps form Pearsall and Jennings, but lose out with Kittle at 50 to Otton at 59%
NOT DOWNPLAYING THE 49ERS injuries on offense, just giving an example that the context matter. If you're going to compare the Bucs to maybe the best coached team in the NFL and particularly on offense where you have to compare Shanahan to Grizz YOURE STACKING THE DECK IN AN ABSURD WAY that isnt even back up by the premise
San Francisco . . .didn’t need the injury excuse.
This stuff it sort of stuff - 49ers versus Bucs - is mostly silly repeating of things read on the Interweb. Its not quite that way though if you look at the details
The Bucs are an inferior team to the 49ers, especially by virtue of their offensive play calling (Shanahan versus Grizz lol), but if you just look at the snap counts on offense the GROSS numbers are very close. The Bucs offensive starters ended up playing an average of 60% of the offensive snaps. The 49ers starters played around 62%
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sfo/2025-snap-counts.htm
The 49ers suffered the loss of Purdy and that is BIG but they got good back up QB play. Mayfield payed 96% of the snaps BUT to any observer he was not himself late in the season due to his injury.
The 49ers lost Bartch on their O-line, but the other guys including Trent Williams average out to about 90% of the snaps.
By comparison, the Bucs lose Mauch (better than Bartch) and then their keys guys, Wirfs and Goedeke, only average about 65% of the snaps. A back up in Bredeson is only in 58% so there is also a rotation of bad of Guard all season. And even their most durable guy, Barton at 100% of snaps, plays multiple games out of position the get to 100% of snaps. The 2024 Bucs dominated with O-line play, in 2025 to O-line was on constant shuffle.
CMC is the centerpiece of the 49ers offense and he played 83% of the snaps behind a fairly intact line. Irving only plays 37% of the snaps and behind a makeshift line.
The "stars" of the Bucs offense are the WRs so Evans is 31% of the snaps and Godwin is 37%. They make up for that with Egbuka. The 49ers get about 60% snaps form Pearsall and Jennings, but lose out with Kittle at 50 to Otton at 59%
NOT DOWNPLAYING THE 49ERS injuries on offense, just giving an example that the context matter. If you're going to compare the Bucs to maybe the best coached team in the NFL and particularly on offense where you have to compare Shanahan to Grizz YOURE STACKING THE DECK IN AN ABSURD WAY that isnt even back up by the premise
When Evans and Godwin came back, Bucs had the easy part of their schedule, favored in the final 6 games and how'd they do on offense? Couldn't surpass league average of 23 points in 5 of those 6 games. The injury excuse for Bucs goes out the window in that final 6 game stretch
49ers on the other hand were missing their starting QB for a few games and lost their heart of defense in Bosa and Warner
Bucs having injury issues on the offensive line is what we need to hang our hats on. That was not ideal but mentioning the Bucs skill position players doesn't hold much weight given we were at our worst with them in the line-up
49ers on the other hand were missing their starting QB for a few games and lost their heart of defense in Bosa and Warner
Some of the starters who missed games to injury:
Pro Bowl QB in Brock Purdy, All Pro DE in Nick Bosa, All Pro MLB in Fred Warner, All Pro TE in George Kittle, All Pro WR1 in Brandon Aiyuk, WR2 in Juaun Jennings, WR3 in Ricky Pearsall, WR4 in Jordan Watkins, All Pro OT in Trent Williams, Starting LG in Ben Bartch, Starting Center in Jake Brendel, Starting DE Yetur Gross-Matos, First Round DE Mykel Williams, Starting CB Renardo Green, Starting CB Upton Stout, & Starting Kicker in Eddy Pineiro.
That doesn't even count the game Mac Jones missed, who played in 11 games and started 8 of those games. Almost all of those starters missed multiple games. Quite a few missed a significant chunk of the season, if not most of the season. They didn't need excuses, going 12-5 in the toughest division in football.
The leghumpers are running from this comparison for obvious reasons.
Couldn't surpass league average of 23 points in 5 of those 6 games. The injury excuse for Bucs goes out the window in that final 6 game stretch
Well, you are the "Mayfield is as Mayfield does . . in 11 games" guy so . .
Kidding, but how can the injury excuse be "out the window" with this?
1.When we beat Atlanta and Houston early on Irving is healthy and playing 70%+ of the snaps. In those last games he is about 50% of the snaps
2. Isn't Wirfs out at least 2 of those games?
3. Goedeke is back but doesnt he have a five penalty game? lol meaning, hes not quite himself
4. Michael Jordan and Dan Feeney the starting guard
5. Mayfield is obviously injured but playing
So, not "out the window" lol.
Maybe not as severe as early on but not sure how you say its not at least partially a bunch of injured talent.
The leghumpers are running from this comparison for obvious reasons.
LMAO the classic Biggs surrender
As posted previously, the brain-addled "Bowles is bad" so . . . so "I cant acknowledge reality."
it’s a bitch-baby excuse.
Bullshit. Injuries, in a game that mostly requires 22 different players with 22 different skill sets, they will always be the biggest indicator of success.
San Francisco, in arguably the best division in football, didn’t need the injury excuse.
Tampa Bay, in arguably the worst division in football, needed the injury excuse.
Leghump away, slugger.
Tampa beat three of the four in this “arguably the best division in football” dropping 30+ on the Seahawks and the Niners.
Keep eating your own stool there, chief…
Couldn't surpass league average of 23 points in 5 of those 6 games. The injury excuse for Bucs goes out the window in that final 6 game stretch
Well, you are the "Mayfield is as Mayfield does . . in 11 games" guy so . .
Kidding, but how can the injury excuse be "out the window" with this?
1.When we beat Atlanta and Houston early on Irving is healthy and playing 70%+ of the snaps. In those last games he is about 50% of the snaps
2. Isn't Wirfs out at least 2 of those games?
3. Goedeke is back but doesnt he have a five penalty game? lol meaning, hes not quite himself
4. Michael Jordan and Dan Feeney the starting guard
5. Mayfield is obviously injured but playing
So, not "out the window" lol.
Maybe not as severe as early on but not sure how you say its not at least partially a bunch of injured talent.
the Bucs got healthy and they tanked. what do you mean?
it’s a bitch-baby excuse.
Bullshit. Injuries, in a game that mostly requires 22 different players with 22 different skill sets, they will always be the biggest indicator of success.
San Francisco, in arguably the best division in football, didn’t need the injury excuse.
Tampa Bay, in arguably the worst division in football, needed the injury excuse.
Leghump away, slugger.
Tampa beat three of the four in this “arguably the best division in football” dropping 30+ on the Seahawks and the Niners.
Keep eating your own stool there, chief…
appreciate you are a blind homer but would you not agree that for 2 games at least Bucs were world beaters - 49ers and Seahawks game. Did the Bucs resemble that team in any other game last season or were those an anomaly?
Falcons come back win? Nope. Texans prime time win? Nope but impressive. Jets almost lost, but win? Nope.
The uninspiring Saints win where Nelson scored a TD and offense was inept? Nope?
The barely hanging on Cardinals and Panthers wins during our collapse? Nope.
Baker was MVP candidate, ranked #1 on Nick Wrights Mahomes Mountain, Bucs ranked #1 in some power rankings after the Seahawks/49ers wins. Then it all came crashing down. Funny how you point to those games like the Bucs team was ever able to show that at any point post those games....