I have sat back and watched this thread and discussion. I would like to stick my nose in the discussion on two points.talking up Trotter in the 2nd are doing it because of their love for the Bucs
is there anyone actually doing that? It seems like it universal disappointment in advance lol
Ive posted on the "why" . . . . why they may have drafted him but because of trying to make sense of it, like most things Bucs
They clearly drafted him to piss the red board off. No real research, just a relationship between Bowles and his old man. Bottom line, this GM team isn’t getting paid enough to really put the effort into talent evaluation. Hopefully soon we will get there. But in the meantime, just another LB who can’t cover and will rack up the tackles, not really making any relevant game challenging plays…
First, I have come up with one unequivocal fact. Knees, you seem to know absolutely nothing about what you are talking about in this thread. You have made such ridiculous statements as "Trotter's film looks better than JRods". Which film did you "watch". I am curious if you watched anything at all or if you are just in here saying stupid shit. It seems like the latter. Trotter's film is nowhere close to looking better than JRods......not even in the same hemisphere......and you know why? Because they are two distinctly different players. I know because I have actually watched games with both players. There is an obvious reason Rodriguez was slated to go late 1st/early 2nd and most of the draft boards that were out there had Trotter as an early 3rd with the exception of a couple that had him late 2nd. Bowles and company liked the Trotter version at LB more than the Rodriguez version at LB. It isn't any more than that and Bowles basically said that (even though I think he's a mouth-breathing idiot).
Second, Trotter is here now. He's our guy whether we want him or not. As I stated elsewhere, I hope he sets the world on fire, redefines LB'ing in the NFL and gives me a 365-day shit sandwich course meal to correct the error in my thinking. I am confident that isn't going to happen but I am going to be his loudest fan when the toe hits the leather. He is drafted, now let's see what he turns into.
Outstanding post.
As I stated elsewhere, I hope he sets the world on fire, redefines LB'ing in the NFL and gives me a 365-day shit sandwich course meal to correct the error in my thinking
I’ll trust Licht, Greenberg, Biehl, Cotton, and Hardie as opposed to someone who has watched all the film of both players. Trotter is young, is already showing in camp he can cover and will be a play making machine.
Lakeland must be a tough late May. Travel some.
is already showing in camp he can cover
Not even remotely true.
Atlanta must be a tough late May.
You should try and take a weekend to Oconee or something. Your first wine spritzer is on me.
I will take your childish quip as the latter (as I suspected) and will reinforce the thought that you know exactly nothing about what you are blathering about. And I am not in Lakeland, thank you very much. Tampa Bay football exists outside the Tampa and surrounding areas.As I stated elsewhere, I hope he sets the world on fire, redefines LB'ing in the NFL and gives me a 365-day shit sandwich course meal to correct the error in my thinking
I’ll trust Licht, Greenberg, Biehl, Cotton, and Hardie as opposed to someone who has watched all the film of both players. Trotter is young, is already showing in camp he can cover and will be a play making machine.
Lakeland must be a tough late May. Travel some.
Wherever you must be must be tough this time of year especially grasping with your lack of knowledge of football.
I will take your childish quip as the latter (as I suspected) and will reinforce the thought that you know exactly nothing about what you are blathering about. And I am not in Lakeland, thank you very much. Tampa Bay football exists outside the Tampa and surrounding areas.As I stated elsewhere, I hope he sets the world on fire, redefines LB'ing in the NFL and gives me a 365-day shit sandwich course meal to correct the error in my thinking
I’ll trust Licht, Greenberg, Biehl, Cotton, and Hardie as opposed to someone who has watched all the film of both players. Trotter is young, is already showing in camp he can cover and will be a play making machine.
Lakeland must be a tough late May. Travel some.
Wherever you must be must be tough this time of year especially grasping with your lack of knowledge of football.
It's classic Tampa fan griping. So many think they have an edge on who is better for our team over the professionals who actually do this for a living. It's insulting. Sure, we can look back and say "I was right about this and that" but so much about football is what is right for the team and the existing personel. We made the decision to keep Todd Bowles. For good or ill that is how we want to approach our leadership as a team. Trotter fits very well into what Bowles wants to do. With Bain, YaYa and Kancey on the line rotating and some of the new proven FAs, we are going to be a much different defense. It's just emotional to cast aspersions on every damn decision we make.
The J-Rod versus Trotter debate is class message board draft debate. Its sort of like BPA versus need. Never the two shall meet
The J-Rod versus Trotter debate is class message board draft debate. Its sort of like BPA versus need. Never the two shall meet
J-ROd wasn't available for Tampa and he wasn't worth trading up for. Most of the news out of S Florida is less than favorable regarding his attitude and approach. It's weird...
So many think they have an edge on who is better for our team over the professionals who actually do this for a living.
Ah, the song of the leghumpers. I've been hearing that song on this forum since the days of Raheem Morris and Mark Dominik. It's cute.
The J-Rod versus Trotter debate is class message board draft debate. Its sort of like BPA versus need. Never the two shall meet
J-ROd wasn't available for Tampa
It doesn't matter though. He will become the measure and people will post things like "we could've traded up."
I think the Bucs take Trotter anyway but this stuff eats up pages on message board because its an apple versus and orangutan, a guy taken for scheme fit ("need") compared to the "BPA" ("JRod better") candidate.
For the record, I never said trade up. My post was directly aimed at the absurd statement that Trotter's film was better than Rodriguez's.....which is completely and inherently false. It was knees just blathering about idiocy of which he knows next to zero about.
And yeah, it takes up pages......on a message board......meant for pages of people blathering about what none of us truly know.
on a message board......meant for pages of people blathering about what none of us truly know.
good point
Rodriguez is the superior player right now
Trotter could be better long term but then again Devin White could have been better than Bobby Wagner.
One in the hand or two in the bush.
Also there were 3 LBs available not named Rodriquez. We took the lowest rated prospect.
Time will tell
Also there were 3 LBs available not named Rodriquez. We took the lowest rated prospect.
Time will tell
Correct. Trotter will mostly be compared with Hill, Allen, & Golday.
Trotter will be judged by his success within this scheme and how much the defensive #s improve. Which will certainly translate to more wins for Tampa.