This team's ceiling is 9 wins. I have said 6. All the talking heads writing sports articles know exactly dick about this team. I have always stated Bowles lost this team last year. Why does anyone think the outcome is going to be any different. This is who Todd Bowles is as a head coach and he's not capable of being any more than that. I will stand by my 6 until I see the product on the field, because to me, they didn't do anywhere near enough on the coaching side or the player side to get over the 8-9 win hump.
The ceiling is 11 wins imo. We are def limited by Bowles but we are the most talented team in the division.
If Baker and the line stay healthy and we win 1 or 2 games we shouldn't, 11 wins is possible (however unlikely).
We have been the most talented team in the division for the last half decade and still that has amounted to 8, 10, 9, and 8 wins under Todd Bowles.
Also, in terms of winning 1 or 2 games we shouldn't, that's all fine and dandy assuming you don't lose 3-4 games you shouldn't. So while we beat Seattle last year, we also lost to Miami and call it 2 other division games we should not have. Heck in 2024, we were on our dominate second half run and still lost to a back-up QB led Dallas team in the midst of it which offset one of the games we should not have won - Detroit, Philadelphia, etc. So point being is it seems to even out.
I think the fact that the best we ever did in the division under Bowles/Arians, recent memory is 4-2; that is likely the ceiling there. You then have kryptonite teams in Baltimore and Los Angeles Rams which to me are guaranteed losses. 4-4 for those keeping track. Then aside from the Carolina prime time game, you have 2 others in Dallas and Chicago which again under Bowles/Baker we are 1-9. So that's 4-6 right there in which you'd have to go 7-0 in the following games - @Cincy, v Cle, v Min, v GB, V Pitt, @DET, V LAC. Other than Cleveland which should be a very winnable game, those are not gimme games in which we will be underdogs in the road games and likely even or 2.5 point spreads in all the other games.
I know i know, dont look at history when assessing what can happen, but Bowles has been around for 4 years now and it's been a repeat....strong start, mid season struggles, prime time struggles, playing down to division level. Last season was clearly the worse with a 3-3 record and unlike the prior 2 years where we would clean up on easy schedule, we did the opposite, Should be a more talented team this year but we had a damn top 5 offense back in 2024 and still only won 10 games.