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Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @biggs3535

55.0% conversion allowed on 3rd/4th down.

For context at how awful this is, here the worst 3rd down conversion rates in the entire NFL the last five years:

2021 - 49.8%

2022 - 50.0%

2023 - 47.6%

2024 - 50.9%

2025 - 47.6%

 

55.0% is absolutely horrendous.

This + time of possession.

The defense playing better than normal was a function of a defense coach making the entire game plan around protecting the defense and leaving the offense out to dry.

And AGAIN for the people in the back. Nobody is saying the offense played well... But it's also hard to play well with limited possessions and long fields all game.

That doesn't absolve the miscues but IN THE END...

Saying the offense "choked" when they scored the game tying fg (yes it should have been a TD) and then defense turns around and lets them drive to kick a game winning fg as time expired...

THAT'S THE REAL FUCKING CHOKE. Offense did their job by at least tying the game.

Defense couldn't even force a long fg against a kicker with the yips.

 


 
Posted : Mar. 20, 2026 11:21 am
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @biggs3535

55.0% conversion allowed on 3rd/4th down.

For context at how awful this is, here the worst 3rd down conversion rates in the entire NFL the last five years:

2021 - 49.8%

2022 - 50.0%

2023 - 47.6%

2024 - 50.9%

2025 - 47.6%

 

55.0% is absolutely horrendous.

This + time of possession.

The defense playing better than normal was a function of a defense coach making the entire game plan around protecting the defense and leaving the offense out to dry.

And AGAIN for the people in the back. Nobody is saying the offense played well... But it's also hard to play well with limited possessions and long fields all game.

That doesn't absolve the miscues but IN THE END...

Saying the offense "choked" when they scored the game tying fg (yes it should have been a TD) and then defense turns around and lets them drive to kick a game winning fg as time expired...

THAT'S THE REAL FUCKING CHOKE. Offense did their job by at least tying the game.

Defense couldn't even force a long fg against a kicker with the yips.

 

dude they put up 20 points, gave the opposing team a free 7 and if they score a td there, the field goal doesn’t matter at the end

 


 
Posted : Mar. 20, 2026 11:45 am
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

gave the opposing team a free 7

The offense did not give Washington a "free 7" points. There was no pick-six or scoop-and-score. The defense is allowed to get a turnover and/or hold the opposing team to a FG. There is no rule against either of those things.

 

Posted by: @badabingbucs

if they score a td there, the field goal doesn’t matter at the end

If Tampa's offense scored a TD, then Washington wouldn't have attempted a FG at the end. They were playing for a FG with the ball at Tampa's 27 with 1:41 left.

But, for arguments sake, let's assume the Bucs scored that TD instead of FG. Do you believe Todd Bowles' defense stops that TD from happening when it's 1st-and-10 from Tampa's 27 with 1:41 left? What are you betting your house on - a stop or a TD?


 
Posted : Mar. 20, 2026 11:52 am
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @badabingbucs

gave the opposing team a free 7

The offense did not give Washington a "free 7" points. There was no pick-six or scoop-and-score. The defense is allowed to get a turnover and/or hold the opposing team to a FG. There is no rule against either of those things.

 

Posted by: @badabingbucs

if they score a td there, the field goal doesn’t matter at the end

If Tampa's offense scored a TD, then Washington wouldn't have attempted a FG at the end. They were playing for a FG with the ball at Tampa's 27 with 1:41 left.

But, for arguments sake, let's assume the Bucs scored that TD instead of FG. Do you believe Todd Bowles' defense stops that TD from happening when it's 1st-and-10 from Tampa's 27 with 1:41 left? What are you betting your house on - a stop or a TD?

bowles D was ass. They likely would have given you a TD but notice the Seahawks game where a ball bounced off halls helmet and we won out of pure luck

Blaming D for not having a stand at 13 yard line isn’t being objective 

 


 
Posted : Mar. 20, 2026 12:07 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

bowles D was ass. They likely would have given you a TD but notice the Seahawks game where a ball bounced off halls helmet and we won out of pure luck

Pure luck could have happened at any point in the game for the defense. It didn't.

Having to rely on pure luck is a problem.

 

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Blaming D for not having a stand at 13 yard line isn’t being objective

Asking for a three-and-out from the defense anytime that game isn't being objective, apparently. That's a problem.


 
Posted : Mar. 20, 2026 12:14 pm
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