Spare me the "Baker made Coen" clown shoes take.
yet, you hold on to some idea that Baker wasn't the reason for his success.
So, show me all the similar seasons that Baker has had to his 2024 outing.
Using your logic, there should be a lot of them.
It’s cool. You don’t understand logic. Baker has had two of this three OCs promoted to head coaching jobs since he’s been in Tampa.
Keep swinging from Coen’s nuts though. It’s a great look.
Spare me the "Baker made Coen" clown shoes take.
yet, you hold on to some idea that Baker wasn't the reason for his success.
So, show me all the similar seasons that Baker has had to his 2024 outing.
Using your logic, there should be a lot of them.
It’s cool. You don’t understand logic. Baker has had two of this three OCs promoted to head coaching jobs since he’s been in Tampa.
Keep swinging from Coen’s nuts though. It’s a great look.
As you swing from Todd’s.
Squeezing that big red clown nose.
Honk…Honk!
And, to nobody’s surprise, you couldn’t produce a single season throughout Baker’s career that came close to 2024.
It’s weird…
Spare me the "Baker made Coen" clown shoes take.
yet, you hold on to some idea that Baker wasn't the reason for his success.
So, show me all the similar seasons that Baker has had to his 2024 outing.
Using your logic, there should be a lot of them.
It’s cool. You don’t understand logic. Baker has had two of this three OCs promoted to head coaching jobs since he’s been in Tampa.
Keep swinging from Coen’s nuts though. It’s a great look.
As you swing from Todd’s.
Squeezing that big red clown nose.
Honk…Honk!
And, to nobody’s surprise, you couldn’t produce a single season throughout Baker’s career that came close to 2024.
It’s weird…
Go put on your teal gear and enjoy the brain dead honks near St John’s River.
Robinson’s offense will outperform Coen’s this season. It’s weird…
Teams have film now and they will adjust accordingly. The coordinator that makes adjustments this upcoming season will have the greater success.
People will be blowing Zac by mid-season as well. Baker is built for what Robinson is trying to do.
The coordinator that makes adjustments this upcoming season will have the greater success.
I am a fan of Coen's play calling so it will be interesting to see how he adjusts
If Robinson is even a fraction as good as Coen, we'll be in good hands.
some of this was due to injuries for Irving and the decimated O-line, but the biggest drop off on offense between Coen and Grizz might have been the loss of running EXPLOSIVES
"Bucky Irving was also sidelined for two months by foot and shoulder injuries, and across his two stretches of active play, he averaged just 3.4 yards per carry. Irving turned only 6.4% of his designed rush attempts into 10-plus yard gains, down from 13% as a rookie. The Bucs swapped out Rachaad White for Kenny Gainwell, who was wildly productive for the Steelers in a situational role, and there’s a chance that he is Tampa’s best back."
As has been reported, we ended up pursuing Coen because Robinson took himself out of consideration when he selected Atlanta in 2024. However, he was the top of the list at the time.
This. Baker made Coen. He will do the same with Robinson. It’s weird…
As has been reported, we ended up pursuing Coen because Robinson took himself out of consideration when he selected Atlanta in 2024. However, he was the top of the list at the time.
This. Baker made Coen. He will do the same with Robinson. It’s weird…
Coen just went to the Jags and made Lawrence look damn good so... Not sure what you mean by this
As has been reported, we ended up pursuing Coen because Robinson took himself out of consideration when he selected Atlanta in 2024. However, he was the top of the list at the time.
This. Baker made Coen. He will do the same with Robinson. It’s weird…
Coen just went to the Jags and made Lawrence look damn good so... Not sure what you mean by this
Two of Baker’s past three OC’s ended up as OCs. He has a history of making an OC look good. Robinson hasn’t had a QB like Baker since he’s been an OC. It may take two seasons but Robinson will be a head coach soon.
As has been reported, we ended up pursuing Coen because Robinson took himself out of consideration when he selected Atlanta in 2024. However, he was the top of the list at the time.
This. Baker made Coen. He will do the same with Robinson. It’s weird…
Coen just went to the Jags and made Lawrence look damn good so... Not sure what you mean by this
Two of Baker’s past three OC’s ended up as OCs. He has a history of making an OC look good. Robinson hasn’t had a QB like Baker since he’s been an OC. It may take two seasons but Robinson will be a head coach soon.
Can't both be true
1 - Baker has made some head coaches with his quarterback play in Canales and Coen
2 - Coen has proven to be an elite offensive mind with Baker looking like a top 5 QB with him, top 15 otherwise; Trevor Lawrence being a fringe top 20 guy looking damn near top 10 under Coen.
As has been reported, we ended up pursuing Coen because Robinson took himself out of consideration when he selected Atlanta in 2024. However, he was the top of the list at the time.
This. Baker made Coen. He will do the same with Robinson. It’s weird…
Coen just went to the Jags and made Lawrence look damn good so... Not sure what you mean by this
Two of Baker’s past three OC’s ended up as OCs. He has a history of making an OC look good. Robinson hasn’t had a QB like Baker since he’s been an OC. It may take two seasons but Robinson will be a head coach soon.
Can't both be true
1 - Baker has made some head coaches with his quarterback play in Canales and Coen
2 - Coen has proven to be an elite offensive mind with Baker looking like a top 5 QB with him, top 15 otherwise; Trevor Lawrence being a fringe top 20 guy looking damn near top 10 under Coen.
Correct. But then you look at Canales. You know, the OC who became a head coach before Coen was even discovered by the Bucs. So now you have a melba toast personality with a decent OC resume, come to Tampa and Baker elevates him in 19 short weeks to a head coaching position. Baker is in some rare territory.
People make excuses about Robinson not having QBs but he is handed a golden gift aka Mayfield in a contract year. If Robinson can't have the offense perform and become a HC like Coen and Canales what does that say about Robinson? I am not a fan of Robinson because I watched Falcons play other opponents other than a Bowles defense and I was not impressed by the play calling.
My honest opinion is that this offense is going to preform regardless of Robinson's performance. Similar with how the early part of the season it was the Mayfield show to a hot 6-2 start. I am not trying to diminish Grizzard's play calling that much during that hot start because he had moments of brilliance when special teams wanted to hand the Texans and Jets Ws. But Mayfield who isn't known as an accurate timing passer was laser focused during that stretch with post routes to Emeka and Grizzard's play calling throughout the game set those up . But ultimately it was Mayfield's legs, determination and seeing the entire field that was clutch.
Like I have said before people are giving coaches too much credit and enough to players. I am willing to roast Mayfield for his poor play down the stretch but his play at the start with a rookie green OC, injuries on offense, underperforming defense and very SPECIAL special teams was absolutely brilliant and wonderous.
I just feel that the Bucs haven't helped him by surrounding him with coaches like Bowles, Robinson or not enough help on offense with better offensive guard upgrades this off season. Only thing I can say is that if special teams actually looks NFL average as well the defense that IS help for Mayfield and this offense.
Even at an average level Mayfield is hard out for teams facing our Bucs because he is clutch down to the wire. Last few games of the season was out of character for him but he was injured and he was pressing and forcing the ball to Evans.
Even if Robinson ends up a turd ( I think he is fool's gold as Matt Ryan and Atlanta feel that ways strongly) I think Mayfield balls and carries this team as far as he could despite coaching incompetence from Robinson and Bowles.
