The news that Bucs quarterback Jameis Winston will face a three-game suspension to start the season has been met with a number of emotions from fans of the team. From anger directed at the NFL, to anger directed at Winston, and everything in between, the facts have been slow to be revealed.

Late Friday afternoon a new report was published that doesn’t bode well for Winston’s case for innocence.

In a story from ESPN’s Paula Lavigne, the mysterious third passenger in the Uber ride where Winston has been accused of groping in 2016 was named. Former Vanderbilt football player Brandon Banks has been identified as a passenger along with Winston and Eagles cornerback Ronald Darby. And Banks, through his attorney, has disputed Darby’s recollection of the night by stating while he was a passenger for part of the night, Winston was alone with the Uber driver at some point during the night.

Jameis Winston Ronald Darby 

Darby has maintained that all three were passengers were the car during the ride, and he and Winston shared the backseat, with at the time, the unidentified third passenger in the front.

And in a twist that also doesn’t do anything for Winston’s perception, Banks is serving a 15-year prison sentence for rape, a charge that occurred when Banks was a player for the Commodores in June of 2013. Banks was not convicted until 2017 a year after the Uber incident happened.

While it was originally reported that Winston would receive a three-game suspension, NFL.com reported on Friday that the three games isn’t set in stone meaning it could end up being more.

PewterReport.com will continue to update our website as new details and reports emerge.

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About the Author: Mark Cook

Mark Cook currently is the director of editorial content and Bucs beat writer and has written for PewterReport.com since 2011. Cook has followed the Buccaneers since 1977 when he first began watching football with his Dad and is fond of the 1979 Bucs team that came within 10 points of going to a Super Bowl. His favorite Bucs game is still the 1979 divisional playoff win 24-17 over the Eagles. In his spare time Cook enjoys playing guitar, fishing, the beach and family time.Cook is a native of Pinecrest in Eastern Hillsborough County and has written for numerous publications including the Tampa Tribune, In the Field and Ya'll Magazine. Cook can be reached at [email protected]
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The Last Bucs Fan
The Last Bucs Fan
4 years ago

The Bucs need to cut or trade Winston asap. At this point they may have to just cut him, because I doubt the other 31

Sheldon
Sheldon
Reply to  The Last Bucs Fan
4 years ago

That makes no sense

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  Sheldon
4 years ago

Agreed. Big Ben RAPE and 4 games. touching thru clothes for 4 secs with BS story SOLD to buzzfeed . NO way – winston getting railroaded

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  MrThrityTwo
4 years ago

Please look up the term ‘Whataboutism’, MrThrityTwo

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  The Last Bucs Fan
4 years ago

Lol, ok.

Naplesfan
Naplesfan
Reply to  The Last Bucs Fan
4 years ago

I don’t know what the Bucs will do or should do about Winston, in large part because the Bucs manage to do the wrong thing most of the time anyway, regardless of the never ending pre season hype that rarely proves justified. So this season finally I’m just a spectator, no longer a Bucs fan-atic. But I do want to say that a few people posting here are replicating the ugly bullshit from the pre-2015 draft era that is just plain repulsive, I.e., the repeated defense of ugly behavior by Winston accompanied by large dollops of misogynistic attacks on his… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan
4 years ago

It just took a while, but I predicted precisely this scenario. During the draft, I thought trading would have given a ton of picks. Yes you need a quarterback, but Dilfer and Brad Johnson have proven an average QB will win if you have a good team otherwise. Oh well….another #1 draft pick fucked up. Good ole Bucs. Never pass up a chance to step on their dicks.

seat26
seat26
Reply to  Jonathan
4 years ago

Dilfer was average. Johnson was not. And No, It is very hard to win without a great QB. But in the case of the Bucs, this should be expected. We have botched so many QB’s I have a hard time recalling all of them. We gave up on Steve Young to get Vinnie Testeverde. We gave up on Testeverde to get Dilfer. Hell, we gave up on Doug Williams. And no one was watching when Freeman was hanging out with druggies on the team who got him hooked on Adderall. And now we will give up on Winston. Who knows?… Read more »

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

I know this is Harsh and for some to think it’s overreacting, but we know for sure that Winaton did lie and the Uber girl is a victim. It’s not going help Winston’s case when the same attorney who handled the inappropriate sex event at FSU is the same attorney for the Uber driver. I believe Winston has played his last football in Tampa. Owners have no choice but to not play him, but also pay him; and at the end of the season release him, if they can’t find anybody who wants to do a trade which is unlikely… Read more »

Buc 1976
Buc 1976
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

I am FINALLY DONE! From what I’ve read he LIED to everyone.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Buc 1976
4 years ago

Buc 1976; I know many of us are disappointed in Winston. He just couldn’t overcome his immaturity; maybe he will in the future, but not with the Bucs and who he hangs with and whoever is giving him advise as it’s not working.. I’m sad that Winston made Tampa Bay Buccaneers look once again foolish. The Owners at this point shouldn’t associate with Winston. His career is over with the Bucs; hopefully Winston gets some help. The Owners, and NFL can’t afford another liability issue with him. I love my Bucs and we will get pass this like we have… Read more »

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

I think you people are a bunch of morons. You literally have NO clue what happened in that Uber. Being so naive to think that there’s absolutely no chance he’s being honest, or even more naive to think a girl would accuse a star athlete of unwanted advances( because that’s never happened before) how about you wait until ALL the facts and evidence is out before labeling someone a degenerate rapist. You’re supposed to be innocent until proven guilty. It’s mind numbing how many of you are labeling a guy guilty, while knowing NOTHING about what happened in that Uber

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

Would never accuse a star athlete*

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

Well Dave it’s hard to say Winston is being honest about something when the investigation revealed that his two friends were not actually in the car with him like he said he was. And sure we don’t know what happened in that car. We know a random woman in Arizona accused him of something inappropriate. We know he lied about his alibi. We know he was previously accused of raping a girl. We know that there were enough holes with that accusation that he was never charged. But if you accuse a roommate of stealing something from your room one… Read more »

Jonathan
Jonathan
Reply to  Dave
4 years ago

True, however we DO know that A) Winston lied about the circumstances that could be proven and B) He knows his reputation, and to put himself in tet position of being drunk and alone in the front seat with a young female uber driver….not too smart and C) Unless Winston confesses, it will ALWAYS be a he said/she said issue. But, HE has lied about crucial information, so far we have nothing to indicate she is lying. D) And speaking of reputation…..these types of things continue to “follow him”, and they happen frequently…..EVEN DURING TIMES HE IS BEING INVESTIGATED! This… Read more »

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

No criminal charges at time.

No evidence

She said – he said – over minor touching that even SHE says he backoff when told to.

Driver lets a young drunk man in front seat? Entrapment

They use Ubber to not -drink and drive and now they get this BS – ?

I hope you don’t have sons with your thought process

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

This is a Skip Bayless level take. You have to be trolling. Dave has got you guys nailed down.

Let’s just assume the worst case scenario since you already have. I think you should then go resign from whatever job you have because you, like any other person, have probably lied about something or at best “misrepresented” facts to protect your own skin.

Was that a stupid comment? Couldn’t agree more. A suspension is fine, people have been suspended for longer on worse “crimes” and returned to play in the league.

Pete Wood
Pete Wood
4 years ago

Whoa. Now, it might be more than three games? How exactly does this work? The longer he waits to accept his punishment, the worse the punishment?

nybuccguy
nybuccguy
4 years ago

Ummm, Winston was in the back seat and a rapist was in the front. Banks probably groped her.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  nybuccguy
4 years ago

More information has come out since your post.

seat26
seat26
4 years ago

Well, It was nice being a Bucs fan. I lasted 42 yrs. I am so disgusted by all of this, and the worse thing is the overreaction to the events that are still not clear at all. The NFL is using Winston as a scapegoat for all their previous mishandling. If we cut him, this organization will be set back for a decade. But futility is what this organization is supremely good at. Just because there was another person in the car who disputes the passenger list does not tell us anything more than we knew back in November. The… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  seat26
4 years ago

Go back and read Winston’s original statement about the incident. He completely left out anything having to do with the 2nd Uber Driver. I’m done with the Winston era. He is no longer the face of Tampa Bay Buccaneers!

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Well it’s a good thing you’re not the GM horse. Because your comments are absolutely baseless and absurd

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  seat26
4 years ago

+1 to both Dave and seat. The hysteria and white-knighting going on here would be hilarious if it wasn’t being taken seriously. Now it’s just sad.

BucWild02
BucWild02
4 years ago

Okay social justice warriors, let’s calm down. Cutting Jameis Winston or trading Jameis Winston would be a huge over reaction. Two years ago, after his rookie season at age 22, Winston made a shitty pass at a girl. I assume Winston is 100% guilty of everything he’s being accused of. He touched a female uber driver over her clothes in making his pass. Would it be less invasive if he french kissed her out of the blue? Not really. Both are poor form. Neither gets you thrown in jail or kicked out of the league. He needs to explain himself,… Read more »

Mark Rodriguez
Mark Rodriguez
Reply to  BucWild02
4 years ago

Everything you said would have been true 5 years ago. Hell, even 2 years ago. But we live in a different world now. In the post #metoo world, there are politicians and celebrities whose careers are ruined over far less than what Winston did. I don’t want to start a whole political argument here, but look at Al Franken. All he did was pose for a picture PRETENDING to grope someone and his career is over.

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  Mark Rodriguez
4 years ago

Totally disagree, Even the metoo is a double standard. Protect clinton, samatha bee or Kimmel and attack who they want.

Bottomline men need to grow a collective pair and push back on these BS allegations and mob rule BS or it will get worse.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  BucWild02
4 years ago

See, there is the problem? It’s too late. Silence is not golden. This will happen again and this time it will get extremely costly in the future for the Bucs & NFL because they continued to let it go on.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  BucWild02
4 years ago

BucWild2; you’re assuming there is nothing else, but we don’t know that to be correct yet. Also there was other immature actions Winston did while at FSU which fits the pattern of immaturity to its fullest. Honesty is the best policy and much of this could have been avoided if he would have told the complete truth from the beginning. If one is not honest with one’s attorney, how can that attorney help to protect him? This is all on Winston. Not NFL, Bucs, Licht, Koetter ; this is all on Winston, nobody else. He shouldn’t be the face of… Read more »

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Horse there’s a world of difference between being immature and being a closet rapist. The fact that you fail to see that is scary

chetthevette
chetthevette
Reply to  BucWild02
4 years ago

I would hate to be a young man in todays climate. “Made a shitty pass” well put my friend. make a shitty pass on the field and get picked off, make a shitty pass in am Uber and get arrested.
Glad I’ve got the Lions to root for.
GO FITZ

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  chetthevette
4 years ago

When you were young did a girl ever go to the hospital and go through a rape kit under the presumption you raped her? Ever banned from a cab company because you allegedly grabbed a driver inappropriately?

Sure, today there is more information and people are under a bigger microscope but let’s not get it twisted. Ive never been accused of rape, banned from Uber or suspended for screaming obsenities at the student union. I assume most people haven’t either. Let’s not blame the clinate and consider the person’s history and actions first and foremost.

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  BucWild02
4 years ago

Agreed but its the NFL making the stink of it. No other organization I know of throws jet fuel on a ember better than that Idiot Goodell and his NFL. NFL virtue signaling to all golddiggers out there how easy it is to get a player in trouble. Complete fools.

I hope they lower it to 1 game but I doubt it.

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  BucWild02
4 years ago

+1 to this entire thread here. I’m a young Democrat and I even do campaign work, but the level of white-knighting going on here and the hostility that is being brought to bear for the smallest of offenses is SAD.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  BucWild02
4 years ago

Please avoid ad hominem attacks of other posters Bucwild02. I know certain right wing networks love to label people they don’t agree with with terms such as “social justice warriors” to discredit them but it makes you look petty when you do it.

This isn’t FN and you aren’t Tucker Carlson. I’m not interested in your attempts at ad hominem. Thanks.

surferdudes
4 years ago

Very disappointing. You’re as good as the people you hang out with, and call your friends. That’s some bunch Winston hangs out with, a rapist? Bad decisions off the field, and bad decisions, turnovers on the field. Not a good combo. I’m not saying cut him, but I’m not keeping a blind eye to finding his replacement. It’s time the Bucs draft, and watch the waver wire for another option.

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  surferdudes
4 years ago

Really? So Rich Eisen and Steve Mariucci should be guilty because of Marshall Faulk and Keith Evans? We aren’t talking about outward activity here. Guilt by association? That’s why we have a constitution.

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
4 years ago

I can not believe NFL did not give Bucs heads up on this weeks ago and Jason Licht gets up to stand and says with the 7th pick of Draft we will give it to Buffalo to draft Josh Allen we will wait till the 12 pick and draft Fat Veta Veta we do not care what the USC and Penn state film looked like he just had a bad night against those 2 teams.
Clown Circus

chefboho
chefboho
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

Well thankfully we have you and alllll your wisdom to help us tamp fans draft from now on. It’s obvious you know more than everyone oh wise one. Apparently one or two bad games in your entire college career means you can’t play on the nfl. Darwin James had plenty of sub par games last year yet everyone wanted him as well. And if you think josh Allen and his career 56% completion percentage against division 2 teams is good then you keep showing exactly the kind of clown you really are. Get over yourself. You can’t judge vea considering… Read more »

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
Reply to  chefboho
4 years ago

Veta does well against small average lineman I even saw him drive a guard into a QB
Against NFL size and good lineman he gets manhandled

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
Reply to  chefboho
4 years ago

Ray Charles could have seen this coming Bucs Jason did not see this
before giving “Buffalo” Josh Allen ?????

They are feeding info slow it does not look like Winston will play for Bucs next year
She will get big money or file a Police report as simple as that either way not good for Winston
I only read the news like everyone else.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

God almighty, can this site just block this morons comments. Everyone is tired of your ridiculous comments. Nobody gives 2 f*cks what you have to say. Just shut up already dude. Seriously

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

The most ridiculous part of this take is that you think Josh Allen will be a good QB and that Vita Vea is just “fat”.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

I’m not paritcularly interested in Josh Allen. Josh Rosen on the other hand I would’ve been down with.

The good news is that despite the perpetual optimism of PR, I would expect another top 10 pick next year and a new GM to make it. We’ll get another stab at it if Jameis ends up walking the plank.

macabee
macabee
4 years ago

I have nothing more to say until I hear from three entities – the NFL, the Bucs, and Jameis Winston. Go Bucs!

Pete Wood
Pete Wood
Reply to  macabee
4 years ago

I agree, Macabee.

e
e
Reply to  macabee
4 years ago

Hear, hear. Uh… and hear.

XpfcWintergreen2
XpfcWintergreen2
Reply to  macabee
4 years ago

I agree also.

I am anti “trial by media”. This is against the spirit of America. You know, a person is presumed innocent until shown to be guilty.

____________
Go Bucs!!!!!

Horse
Horse
Reply to  XpfcWintergreen2
4 years ago

I’ve seen enough and I was a very big supporter of Winston since 2013 when he was a Red Shirt Freshman at FSU! He shouldn’t be the face of Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Winston Era is over. I hope he gets some help.

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
4 years ago

Winston, former Vanderbilt football player Brandon Banks and Eagles cornerback Ronald Darby were at a Scottsdale, Arizona, nightclub in March 2016 when Winston became””””” intoxicated and “unruly,””””””” prompting his friends to send him away in an Uber group of men placed Winston alone in the front passenger seat of her car around 2 a.m. on March 13, 2016, outside a Scottsdale nightclub. Banks is serving 15 years in prison after being found guilty of aggravated rape and aggravated sexual battery in June 2017 for his role in the gang rape of a female Vanderbilt student in June 2013. John Clune… Read more »

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

You are sadly mistaken. I know it would probably fill you with glee if we cut Jameis. I’ll just say this, don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen.

You can work trough all your anger towards Jameis when you’re forced into the very bittersweet situation of having to celebrate the first Super Bowl he wins wearing Red & Pewter.

sunshineben
sunshineben
4 years ago

If Winston did lie ,he needs to be gone.!!

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  sunshineben
4 years ago

Lie about what – no way to prove it. Now it not the act but the lie? OMG everyone mind your own business. Stop ruining others.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  MrThrityTwo
4 years ago

He lied from the get go in November 2017 when this issue came up. He never mentioned about the 2nd Uber Driver and he in the car by himself with her. That’s a fact! The ping signal with Winston and Uber driver cell phones also reinforces that fact. Uber driver has been honest from the get go. Power and money prevented her from going forward with a police report at the time. Remember, she is the victim.

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

The fact that you automatically presumed that “she is the victim” says everything we need to know about the mindset coming in.

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
4 years ago

This sounds like past and present Dave ZirinTWITTERDave Zirin is the sports editor of The FSU Nation. We know that Jameis Winston did not testify at his own student conduct hearing to defend his own innocence except by issuing an appalling written statement where he called the accuser a liar, violated her confidentiality by stating her name repeatedly and posited that this was all happening because she was miffed that his door kept swinging open while they were having sex. We also now know that Winston did finally talk in his student hearing after being cornered by retired Judge Major… Read more »

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
4 years ago

When Jameis Winston stood on a table on the Florida State campus in September 2014 and began shouting obscenities, people understandably took notice. After all, here was the star quarterback, Heisman Trophy winner, and supposed campus leader inexplicably screaming out—repeatedly—a misogynistic Internet meme. At least eight people recognized him and tweeted about what they’d seen. Then they probably went on about their day, likely not expecting that anyone would particularly care, or that the media would pick up the story, or that Winston would be suspended for the first half of the next game. Jameis Winston just yelled “F–k her… Read more »

drdneast
drdneast
4 years ago

I bet the same people who want to get Winston fired and speak so I’ll of him also voted for a president who encouraged grabbing women by the p×$$u.
When yo tame a peek under the sheet, you know exactly where all this hatred is coming from.
“Oh, I wished I lived in the land of cotton…”

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  drdneast
4 years ago

The NFL under Goodell has become a PC police force – shut up and play football. No criminal charges just a she-said with no evidence. Give me a break- Move on.

chetthevette
chetthevette
Reply to  drdneast
4 years ago

Damn drd, Starting some shit.

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  drdneast
4 years ago

+1 I want to see where this goes and I’m a young Democrat. The hypocrisy of the white knights is stunning.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  drdneast
4 years ago

WTF drdneast. Trying to install racism into this?

So on one hand we have Bucwild02 saying that people that consider the Uber driver’s account over Jameis after GPS has proven his alibi a lie to be “social justice warriors” (a derogatory term about Democrats)

Now you’re saying that people that think that Jameis might be guilty of this are all Trump supporters (Trump is a republican)

So which is it guys, I’m confused. Am I a Racist Trump supporter or a Socialist Social Justice Warrior. I can’t decide 🤔

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
4 years ago

Our society has lost it. No criminal charges – period. The extent of the she-said claim is he touched me for 3-5 seconds and when I said “what’s up with that” he backed off. WOW. IMO stay away from ALL social media, and new economy garbage like uber where you are interacting with non-professionals who are looking to flirt and then get busted. Who puts a stranger as the only passenger in the front seat of a paid-for car service? NFL should NOT investigate anything unless it rises to a criminal complaint – period. The whole thing is a comedy… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  MrThrityTwo
4 years ago

Do you really want Uber Driver to file a police report? Not good for anybody. Just look at the facts; there are some. Winston hasn’t been truthful about this incident and I was a big supporter of him until this final incident. He shouldn’t be a Buccaneer anymore.

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

You are completely missing the point. The mere fact that she didn’t get the police involved is that she herself didn’t even feel as though she had been assaulted criminally.

SJW’s, the Cult of Outrage, and people who were already biased against Jameis are the ones turning a mole hill into a mountain. And it’s ridiculous.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Schwifty9; I was a big Winston supporter until I learned about the 2nd Uber driver and realized that Winston hasn’t told the whole truth. With the first uber driver he was truthful; with the 2nd Uber driver he wasn’t truthful.
he got caught in his own untruths. I’m not outraged; I’m disappointed.

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

If calling for his head is just being “disappointed” then do you want him sent to the gallows when you’re outraged? Obvious troll is obvious, back to the cave!

BUC-ASS-BOB
BUC-ASS-BOB
4 years ago

Let me read between the line for all of you , I with all respect I say
There is no criminal charge yet because the Lawyer is working for another out of court settlement he can still taste the last 1 million settlement from Winston in his saliva.
The Lawyer is holding everyone involved hostage with threat of police
Should they not get a settlement or satisfaction this will go to police and the last thing any body in Tampa Bay or NFL or the fans want is a police investigation.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  BUC-ASS-BOB
4 years ago

Totally agree! lets remember who the victim is and it’s not Winston.

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  BUC-ASS-BOB
4 years ago

B-A-B

You are likely correct – Its a SHAKEDOWN for CASH and the NFL under heir Roger is GIVING this GOLD DIGGER the Ammo to screw one of their own. Isn’t that wonderful? Goodell is helping the prosecution – he’s a total JOKE.

OH and they support black players getting screwed by the Criminal Justice system ??? YEAH RIGHT They are selling out their own players.

Stop the MADNESS fire Goodell now.

Its a cash grab by some gold digger plain and simple.

gunderss
gunderss
4 years ago

At least we will throw less INT’s the first 3 games! Go Bucs!

Dave
Dave
Reply to  gunderss
4 years ago

And a lot less TD’s too. He’s not Mariota pal. He throws twice as many TD’s as INT’s. If you really think this team is better with Fitzpatrick at QB, you need your head examined

WinstonMVP
WinstonMVP
4 years ago

Where’s this proof Winston is guilty you guys keep spewing????? Comment’s from the Lawyer of a convicted rapist trying to appeal his case is not proof. I’ve seen no proof yet. Some of you people are freak’n loony tunes!!!! GO BUCS!!!

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  WinstonMVP
4 years ago

Apparently all these guys are working under the presumption that anyone who isn’t Jameis is incapable of stretching the truth or telling a lie.

Dave
Dave
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Schwifty absolutely perfectly said! According to the clowns in this forum, it’s not humanly possible that anyone other than Jameis Winston tells a lie or is dishonest. And it’s completely absurd that a young woman would ever accuse a famous star athlete of inappropriately touching her. Noooo! That’s never happened before. Why would a young woman ever lie about a famous athlete inappropriately touching her?

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

It’s one thing to tell a lie and it hurts no one, but you; it’s another thing when the lie hurts some else especially when you deny it happened at all. His own untruths is why we are hear at this point.

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Who is “hurt” by any of this besides Jameis Winston?

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  JustaBuc
4 years ago

Congrats on winning the internet Justabuc.

You’re right, getting groped by someone causes no hurt at all. I’m sure if you groped someone on the crotch in front of a police officer nothing would even happen because it isn’t a crime 😉. The only victim here is poor Jameis….or something 🙄

Jlog
Jlog
4 years ago

There is nothing new to the story, all of this was known last year within a week of when the story first broke. We also knew that Winston lied or was mistaken about the other 3 guys being in the car with him at the time. All three players were identified last year. The only thing that may be new is that Brandon is serving time, but it’s irrelevant to what happened anyway. I’m tough on Winston, but the press is over blowing this story big time. I realize it’s slow time of year for them but this is just… Read more »

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  Jlog
4 years ago

Agreed – its a Winston railroad by a SJW media looking to feed on the next story – MOB rule is taking over

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

He lied from the get go in November 2017 when this issue came up. He never mentioned about the 2nd Uber Driver and he in the car by himself with her. That’s a fact! The ping signal with Winston and Uber driver cell phones also reinforces that fact. Uber driver has been honest from the get go. Power and money prevented her from going forward with a police report at the time. Remember, she is the victim.

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Horse, you have to understand that this whole 2nd uber story only surfaced recently, and the source is an actual convicted sex offender serving a 15 year sentence for R ape. His account also directly conflicts with Darby’s report of Jameis never being alone with her. There is still not a shred of concrete proof that this happened. Don’t be so quick to judge your fellow man as though you have lived your life as a saint.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Schwifty9; The issue has always been the Uber Driver who drove Winston (only passenger). Winston nor Banks & Darby only made statements when the 3 of them drove to the nightclub; Winston never mentioned anything about the second Uber driver; he lead everyone to think there was only one Uber driver . Winston friends (whoever they were) called the 2nd Uber driver to take him home to the night club as he was not behaving (my words); this is why Uber suspended his account because of his miss behavior with her.

Jlog
Jlog
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

That is not true at all, it was reported about the two different rides about week after the original story broke. All the passenger in the first ride were also identified at that time. You are also questioning a victim that’s story has been accurate and confirmed vs Winston’s story which has at best been about another ride with a history of at very least not respecting women. Could Winston being telling the truth, sure, is remotely likely doubtful. I have mixed feeling about the whole thing as when I was his age the most that would came of this… Read more »

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  Jlog
4 years ago

He touched her after she flirted, she said back off he did. Only in Roger’s world is this a problem.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  MrThrityTwo
4 years ago

MrThrityTwo, did you just try to justify why Jameis would have grabbed an Uber driver by the crotch by saying “she flirted”?!

Wow I guess we can all be glad this Uber driver wouldnt have worn more revealing clothing, who knows what you could justify…

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  MrThrityTwo
4 years ago

In reply to DEVASHER.

Justify? Not at all, I’m saying its overblown and that’s if you believe HER 100%, which I don’t. Are you trying to justify this as sexual ASSAULT? 3 sec touch through clothes ruins a man? How do you justify that? Like SHE said he touched her and she said back off – she said he did.

You believe this golddigger and not Jameis? How do you justify that?

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  MrThrityTwo
4 years ago

Hmmm you’re calling an Uber driver who hasn’t sued anyone 2 years after the fact a gold digger…I’ll be honest if I came into this giving Jameis the benefit of the doubt (ignoring his past history and all) and read some of these posts defending him I’d be a little embarrassed.

If this driver sues him, and you’d like to attack her, so be it. At the point I don’t think she has and I would say you are oddly quick to attack someone for something they have yet to do.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Jlog
4 years ago

Yes I agree. Now women have the same equal rights as men; that’s the way it should have been back and our time in the first place.

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

I almost vomited at this comment. Confirmed, this MUST be trolling.

WinstonMVP
WinstonMVP
4 years ago

Who said Winston was alone with her? The lawyer of a convicted rapist who is appealing that rape charge? Why would said lawyer put Banks in the front seat? The lawyer is protecting Banks. who said there were 2 Uber drivers? The Lawyer for the rapist? How is this lawyer gonna appeal Banks rape charge and put his client in the front seat with the Uber driver? Where are you getting phone ping data? Some of you have NO PROVEN FACTS YET. Why not wait for the FACTS before you hang J Winston? Some of you read a couple little… Read more »

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
4 years ago

The whole worlds gone crazy. Even if Jameis is guilty of what he’s being accused of doing, which i don’t necessarily believe he is. That alone is not grounds for releasing him. Bucs fans apparently are desperate for another Doug Williams or Steve Young situation where we get rid of a promising young Quarterback only to be doomed to lament that decision when they go on to win a SuperBowl. Being drunk and making an incredibly inappropriate decision to put your hand on an adults crotch region and then immediately removing your hand is not tantamount to sexually assaulting someone… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

He did miss behave and I’m sorry, but at 22 you are a man, and need to act like a man. Instead he was still that 18 year old kid. At some point you have to be responsible for your actions and behavior. He shouldn’t be the face of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers anymore.

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Look guy, it’s clear that you have a Horse in this race, and that you are thinking illogically about what the actual severity of this accused incident is number 1.

And number 2, I’d hate to live in this world you propose in which mercy, forgiveness and understanding are thrown by the wayside, and where you stopping gettting chances to redeem yourself after you turn 21.

Reflect within yourself. No one is perfect. And no one should have their career stripped from them over what Jameis is being accused of.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Schwifty9; I sure don’t see myself that way, but you have your right of opinion.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Sure Schwifty, in a vacuum one inappropriate violation of a person’s body might seem innocent enough, but it certainly doesn’t help if you’ve already been accused of raping another person a few years earlier and coincidentally partying that night with someone who was arrested and is currently in jail for…raping someone.

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Devasher
4 years ago

Accused of and found innocent in numerous judicial proceedings. That case is irrelevant.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Found innocent? No dear Schwifty, he wasn’t charged. Found innocent would be like saying you have evidence that the accusation was false. We know Jameis and Kinsman had sex. We know she went to the hospital for a rape kit that morning. A bunch of other questionable things sunk her case. That said, he ended up settling with her in civil court last year so he ended up paying up despite his ‘proven innocence.’ And I would ask you, do you truly think someone’s past behavior is irrelevant or are you so determined to protect your QB you’re willing to… Read more »

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Devasher
4 years ago

Those numerous inconsistencies in her story and the fact that she was a self described cleat chaser is what sunk her case. Which essentially led to Jameis being exonerated of any charges. Isn’t that damn close to being declared innocent?

And to answer your second question , the result of the judicial proceedings is precisely what makes the case irrelevant.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  Devasher
4 years ago

If Jameis could easily prove his innocence about Kinsman then he should have gone through the civil proceeding and cleared his name. But what was often missed about Winston’s code of conduct hearing is not that Kinsman’s story was meritless but rather it no more or less believable than Jameis story (as we both agree there were holes). In that case you can say “hey let’s not judge the guy too harshly even though he seems to get in trouble a lot.” And yet…then we have yet another situation pop up about him allegedly doing something unwanted to a woman… Read more »

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
4 years ago

Someone at Bucs thinks about this what the point Attendance at Bucs games dropped again last year to 29 out of 32 Jamies has not brought one person to the game’s attendance down from 2014…. 1. Jamies sit suspension come back to the broken season no other off-field problems Bucs win 10-15 games over next 3 years the past 3 years average factored 2. The Babys mommy or other girl accuses him of sexual or other abuse write or wrong there will be another lost season because of History. This one I feel a good chance 3. He goes off… Read more »

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

Wow so you’re telling me their are only 3 possible outcomes when in reality there are probably closer to 100 billion different ways the future can play out in any one moment. And not only that, but the only possible outcomes are negative?

You’re not biased against Jameis at all are you sonny jim?

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Likely, most probable, based on history, math history, odds statistics human nature

You thought he sits as #2 thru training camp sits out 3 games comes in on stride and proves us all wrong
and is model citizen next 8 years multi MVP of Superbowl and pro bowls.
I wonder if Las Vegas sees it your way?

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

Thats your implicitly biased and subjective opinion. Roethlisberger was suspended 4 games for being accused of far, far worse. Twice. And that doesn’t seem to have inhibited his ability.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Unless Ben Roethlisberger was in the car that night or he was a witness to Winston’s previous rape accusation you’ve engaged in: Whataboutism.

Fun fact about Whataboutism: The Guardian deemed whataboutism, as used in Russia, “practically a national ideology”

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Incorrect. What i’m talking about are two little things called Precedence, and context.

You compare what Big Ben was accused of to what Jameis is being accused of. And tell me with a straight face that this entire ordeal isn’t being drastically blown way out of proportion.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

If you can’t accept that your attempt to bring Been Roethlisberger’s suspension “for being accused of far, far worse. Twice” as an example of Whataboutism I’m worried you haven’t Googled examples of Whataboutism. Allow me to do it for you:

An employee is overcharging her employer for overtime. When confronted, she says “what about them … they avoid taxes by using tax havens … that’s worse than what I’m doing.”

That was the first example on this site. Do me a favor, read the link, then your post and tell me again that it doesn’t fit. https://simplicable.com/new/whataboutism

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Sorry if I’m unwilling to just capitulate to argument which is solely based on a meme word. Precedence is a term and context that’s been successful used in legal proceedings for nearly a couple hundred years.

I’ll take that over a meme word that essentially has no weight or meaning to it.

Schwifty9
Schwifty9
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Sorry… precedence is a term and *concept*… not context.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  Schwifty9
4 years ago

Whataboutism is a tactic of propoganda and a derivative of the tu quoue logical fallacy. You say it’s precedence however you freely admit Big Ben’s case was “far worse” and the games suspended were different as well. So unfortunately your definition of precedence is lacking as it would be a poor example by your own standards.

You don’t have to agree to anything Schwifty as I rarely expect someone to admit their use of local fallicies when confronted with them (ego is a wonderful thing). It’s really more about readers awareness of it. Your post is the example, that’s all.

martinii
martinii
4 years ago

This is a simple microcosm of American Culture, morality, and world representation. The divisiveness between us (The Fans) is a sample of how we view Kneeling during The National Anthem, Racism, and the lack of ability to assume responsibility by owners, management, and the NFL. You can change the channel on your TV and see in all walks of life perpetual discourse. We love it, role in it, for it has become “We The People.” The only thing Jameis is guilty of is becoming “America’s QB” and the face of us all.

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
Reply to  martinii
4 years ago

I know he did nothing wrong at FSU , he did nothing wrong in Uber cab it the NFL’s fault: Real smart martinii
“America QB are you watching the same QB as the rest of us? ”

He has done nothing but lose throw Ints lost fumbles personal fouls and eat fingers on the field and off the field, we have the current situation. Wow I have heard it all

martinii
martinii
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

No, evidently you heard nothing, because I was not posting about Jameis. I was addressing the shift in moral and social values we are experiencing nationwide. The cultural decline that is draining values and mores from all people not exclusively football players. I suggest in the future you read my post more carefully, because the last thing you want my friend is to piss me off.

Bucnut2
Bucnut2
Reply to  martinii
4 years ago

Wow- you are very impressed with yourself!

WinstonMVP
WinstonMVP
4 years ago

Horse: Where’s your proof Winston is guilty????? Your proof so far is listening to a lawyer of a convicted rapist who is trying to get his client (Banks) off on a rape charge. Why would the lawyer tell the truth and hurt his clients chances on appeal of a rape charge? You have no proof but you’ve obviously made up your mind like many others. You are freaking scary people. Convict before the facts???? SMH

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
Reply to  WinstonMVP
4 years ago

The lawyer for Uber driver will settle out of court for huge money NFL can not let this continue.

MrThrityTwo
MrThrityTwo
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

EXACTLY Mike – But Heir Roger is selling out his players like a weak hack that he is.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  WinstonMVP
4 years ago

WinstonMVP, sorry you feel the way you do.
You keep referring to the first Uber driver.
I keep addressing the situation with the second Uber driver.
I have defended Winston for the last 4 years;
I’m just not able to continue with defending him. There’s nothing else I can say.
I’ll be a But fan no matter what happens.

Devasher
Devasher
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

Horse, unfortunately people are going to believe what they will. I do find their rationalizations interesting though. But no one should expect those currently in fervent support of Jameis to change their minds. Which is fine, like you I hope Winston gets some help. At minimum you don’t put yourself in these positions when you already have a well documented history of them.

alan skelly
alan skelly
4 years ago

The big decision for the Bucs is do we trust Jameis with 25million /year and put the next few years of this franchise in his hands. We know that Jameis has already had to rehab his public persona. He knows that immature and possible criminal behavior can take control of his life. Yet he consciously decides to 1.Get so drunk in a public place that he cannot even order an Uber or get in by himself. 2.Get drunk with a -then-potential rapist 3.Get drunk with a “friend” who appears to be a serial enabler-Darby needs man-up and become a better… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  alan skelly
4 years ago

You make solid points. My only concern is what message does this send to people who continually lie and get away with it. I don’t want him to go to jail. I would just like to hear him make amends which includes a sincere apology. I would support him once again. I know some think this is ridiculous to expect. This is my opinion though.

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  Horse
4 years ago

You have literally called for his release. That’s more than “making amends and a sincere apology”. Jameis Winston is not responsible for making sure your kid grows up right and it’s a bit late for this white-knighting when our last election was between Trump and Clinton who BOTH had, shall we say, sketchy morals.

Horse
Horse
Reply to  JustaBuc
4 years ago

JustaBuc; yes I’m talking out of both sides of my mouth. I still want to believe Winston will do the right thing, but if he doesn’t then I believe he needs to move on from the Bucs. As to “White-Knighting”, I take a strong offense to those words because that was KKK mentality wording back in my day. I don’t think you know what the F### that means to a lot of people who protested that group and ran most of it out of this area. Damn! Let’s don’t start this kind of crap. We can agree to disagree but… Read more »

alan skelly
alan skelly
4 years ago

10 years of torture

Mike Wright
Mike Wright
4 years ago

Where there has been smoke in someones past..there usually has been some fires. And Jameis has had a whole lotta smoke in his past. Bucs Mngt and ownership got to be terribly disappointed in Mr. Winston. That expensive whiskey been flowing at the Glazers residence over this. I think…Jameis gets called in by Licht and the Glazers and told…One more thing..incident..and YOU can pack your bags for the CFL!!! Meanwhile back at the Tenn Batcave..there’s a young squeaky clean American Hawaian Kid named Mariotta…..preparing himself to lead his team back..to the playoffs. BUCLIFE BABY!!!

pepboy1
pepboy1
4 years ago

Jameis states that he was entrapped. She put crab legs in her lap.

JustaBuc
JustaBuc
Reply to  pepboy1
4 years ago

Ok, this comment got a chuckle out of me. +1.

Bucnut2
Bucnut2
Reply to  pepboy1
4 years ago

That’s AWESOME!! great comment

Jonathan
Jonathan
Reply to  pepboy1
4 years ago

now THAT’S funny!

BUC 727
BUC 727
4 years ago

It’s very sad to read so many here vilifying our QB on the word of a “convicted” rapist. Think how damaging it would be to Banks appeal if it came to light during this process, that he groped someome? If anything, Jameis is guilty of stupidity for hanging around this scumbag. Frankly, I’m sick of the NFL’s double standard. I’m sick of Goodell’s self righteousness. We have a league that takes the players off the field without evidence or adverse judgement, in the name of social or political correctness. IMHOP, they should get back to the business of football and… Read more »

scubog
scubog
4 years ago

I’m recommending that Pewter Report make available the private contact information of the posters who believe they have so much to share. You know, the ones who get on this site and spew their worn out message adnauseam. That way, folks who want to ingest their babble can either dispute or concur privately and spare the rest of us their on line banter trying to get in the last word. It’s incredible to me that these on line orators have so much time on their hands, and in their minds, have so much of their wisdom and inside knowledge to… Read more »

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
Reply to  scubog
4 years ago

https://twitter.com/mikeseven69

scobog there is my twitter for you or anyone else to see, I believe in the Game just not this current circus

scubog
scubog
Reply to  Mike.Seven
4 years ago

You actually think I want to read more of your “gospel according to Mike.Seven?”

surferdudes
4 years ago

We all have that friend who’s nice as hell until they have a few drinks in them. Jamies is that person. That’s not an excuse, Jameis thinks it is. He thinks he’s not that person it’s the booze. He can say he’s innocent, but the reality is he was to drunk to know what he did. Hopefully he gets help for his drinking problem, puts this behind him, and has a successful career with the Bucs. But this is it kid, no more screw ups.

WinstonMVP
WinstonMVP
4 years ago

Horse: What I am saying is you take the word of the lawyer for the convicted rapist over Winston’s camp and Darby. So the lawyer isn’t lying it has to be Winston who is lying? How do you know Winston is lying and the lawyer has to be telling the truth? Your trying to ruin Winston with no real facts. Why not wait for more info before you grab the pitchfork and organize the mob? Which is basically what your doing ( and many others are doing). Glad your not my friend or brother or dad. Im glad Kwon has… Read more »

Horse
Horse
Reply to  WinstonMVP
4 years ago

WinstonMVP, you’re right. I apologize for saying too much on this post. Time to see what the NFL and Bucs will do.

WinstonMVP
WinstonMVP
4 years ago

Surferdudes: How do you know Winston is a mean drunk? Man, some of you people just make crap up. You really don’t know anymore than any of us do. Guessing out load is the new blog thing i guess. Have a great day! GO BUCS!!!

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Yes I know I have been harsh about Winston and yes I can get emotional and I work it through. My wife is correct that some of this working thru the emotions doesn’t have to be shown to the world. I apologize. Surferdudes said basically how I feel with just a little more expectations disappointment in Winston. I know the Bucs aren’t going to toss him and I understand why. Besides getting help for his drinking, I wish Winston and others would take a class on ethics. Not happy about Winston staying on this team, but I will support the… Read more »

WinstonMVP
WinstonMVP
4 years ago

And for the record.. Mariota had a Defense and a Running Game since he joined the Titans. Mariota wouldn’t have won crap with out that D and Running Game. Just like Winston hasn’t won crap without a D and Running Game. You Mariota Lovers really don’t know crap about football. The Great Mariota had 13 TD’s & 15 Int’s in 2017. He’s a God!!! LOL What a freaken Joke!!!

WinstonMVP
WinstonMVP
4 years ago

Horse: I hear ya. This is very emotional to us long time Bucs Fans. I get too emotional and write things I probably should have thought out more first, more than once. And none of us Fans should have to deal with this but this is life. GO BUCS!!!

Horse
Horse
Reply to  WinstonMVP
4 years ago

WinstonMVP, thank you. Go Bucs!

WinstonMVP
WinstonMVP
4 years ago

And the only reason Titans made it to the Playoffs with Mariota is because they play in the WEAK AFC where you only need 9 Wins to make it to the playoffs most years. Winston has gone 9-7 also so stop with the Mariota crap on the Bucs site you fake arse fans. Get Outta Here!!!! GO BUCS!!!!

Mike.Seven
Mike.Seven
4 years ago

For the last 2 years when I bring to attention that Jamies Winston is not a good QB because of off-field problems, on-field INT lost fumbles personal fouls, His personal foul lost the Dallas game clearly. I have been called stupid clueless and things that Trevor and Scott have deleted responses due to bad language. I watched the combine saw him run 5.0 40 yard dash, at 6’3 he could not jump high enough to touch a basketball rim, The commentators brought up his footwork said it was a problem. You do not have to be expert to do the… Read more »

plopes808
plopes808
4 years ago

So…we’re taking the story of a convicted rapist over 2 other people? Makes sense…smdh