Center Nick Mangold – Photo by: Getty Images
With free agency rapidly approaching, NFL teams are trimming rosters and clearing cap room. Earlier this month the Giants released wide receiver Victor Cruz, and this weekend the the Jets parted ways with long-time center, Nick Mangold.
— Nick Mangold (@nickmangold) February 25, 2017
— Nick Mangold (@nickmangold) February 25, 2017
The move frees over $9 million in salary cap space for the Jets. Jets owner Woody Johnson released a statement on the fan favorite Mangold.
“For the past 11 years, Nick Mangold has been a cornerstone of our team both on and off the field,” Johnson said. “As our Pro Bowl center, Nick consistently demonstrated superior skill and unmatched toughness. Equally important, off the field, Nick exhibited respect, sensitivity and compassion for the causes he supported.
“It has been a privilege to have known Nick these many years and, for all of us, I say Nick will always be a Jet.”
Mangold was a warrior, a throwback player in the mold of former Patriots and Bucs Pro Bowler Logan Mankins. He started 164 of 176 possible regular season games during his 11 years with the Jets, and made seven Pro Bowls, and also was a two-time, first-team All-Pro selection (2009 and 2010). But a nagging ankle injury limited him to eight games last year, and that combined with his salary, made him expendable.
Is a he a viable candidate for the Bucs? Certainly GM Jason Licht and his staff will look at the possibility, as they do every player that is available. But at age 33, and best days are most likely behind him, how much sense does it make it to bring him to Tampa Bay? And would he even consider moving his family down to the Tampa area after spending the past 11 years in New York?
Cook Reacts: “I am torn on the move to be honest. Without knowing his full medical, it is hard to say and as mentioned, at what price? Plus would the Bucs be better to move Ali Marpet to center and allow him to begging to develop chemistry with Jameis Winston? The quarterback-center relationship is as important as really any two players on a football team. Sharing responsibilities in making line calls, the nuances of the hand placement (quite personal!) and just being able to trust the person getting the you the ball if you are the quarterback. Is brining in a guy for most likely two years max, a good idea, and does that stunt the development of Marpet, if in fact the Bucs are looking to move him over?
“But I keep thinking back to the Mankins situation and the impact it made. Mankins wasn’t great in Tampa Bay his first season, after being traded to the Bucs on the eve of the season opener in 2014. Mankins was shellshocked when he arrived in Tampa, and was in no way prepared for the brutal Florida temperatures.
“But following his first season with the Bucs, Mankins vowed to come into the offseason is great shape, which he did, but more importantly he took on a strong leadership role that proved to be invaluable for rookies Marpet and Donovan Smith. It is no coincidence that the Bucs set franchise records on offense that season, and Mankins made the Pro Bowl as he vowed to do in a text to Licht earlier that year. And I don’t know that enough has been made about the impact Mankins had on the offensive line, and his teammates that struggled at times following his retirement prior to the 2016 season.
“Like Mankins when he arrived in Tampa, Mangold’s best days are most likely behind him, yet his impact inside the walls of One Buc could be an asset to a team primed to make a serious playoff run this season. If Mangold could have that type of impact for the Buccaneers in 2017, and the price isn’t too exorbitant, than the Bucs should seriously considering make him an offer.”
Mark Cook currently is the director of editorial content and Bucs beat writer and has written for PewterReport.com since 2011. Cook has followed the Buccaneers since 1977 when he first began watching football with his Dad and is fond of the 1979 Bucs team that came within 10 points of going to a Super Bowl. His favorite Bucs game is still the 1979 divisional playoff win 24-17 over the Eagles. In his spare time Cook enjoys playing guitar, fishing, surfing and family time at the beach. In addition, Cook can be found in front of a television or in Doak Campbell any time the FSU Seminoles are playing. Cook is a native of Pinecrest in Eastern Hillsborough County and has written for numerous publications including the Tampa Tribune, In the Field and Ya'll Magazine. Cook can be reached at firstname.lastname@example.org
IF we don’t overpay I think it would be a good move. We need more bodies on the line and I am not sure what we can expect from this draft at that position. Bucs will likely not take a center early so not a whole lot available later either. He could bring some much needed leadership to the locker room.
If he is healthy and buys in to the BUCS game plan, the answer is YES YES YES.
That caliber player comes along rarely. If we get 2 good years like Mankins go for it.
Yes, at the right price.
Apparently the key in everyone’s mind is the right price. Whatever that is I would love to add him. Adding leadership and a starter to the O line would be a great start to the offseason and all of us fans would finally be on the same page as the management in thinking the O line is set for the season!
Mangold just turned 33 in January. Surely he’s got a couple of good years ahead. Would make sense if the Bucs had a young player to develop behind him. Maybe we already have that guy in C Ben Gottschalk or maybe we draft OG Dan Feeny in the 2nd round or as an alternative take a much younger but less experienced C J.C. Tretter/Packers (26) in free agency.
The Key is his health. If he is 100% recovered from a foot injury, there is nobody out there any better. The thought of another J.R. Sweezy is always on your mind though. We sometimes underestimate the importance of a good center to a QB in reading defenses and helping the QB in game situations. Winston needs to have a Peyton Manning/Jeff Saturday relationship with his center. Mangold could be that guy and bring a lot of offensive team leadership as well.
Nothing fails but a try. Go for it Bucs!
I keep forgetting about Sweezy. Hopefully that is enough of an upgrade to the o-line that additional FA’s are not needed
The upgrade at center worked well for the Fowlgoons. Screw the cost. If he’s healthy and willing, do the deal. Great mentor for Marpet to take over in the future.
The Bucs have too much cap space and are close enough for a legit shot at the Super Bowl to not pick up a couple good FA’s. Although I would prefer FA money be spent on offensive playmakers (Latavious Murray RB & Josh Gordon or DeSean Jackson WR)
I say no. Think about it, we’re still kinda looking for Mankins replacement. Meaning, we’ll still be looking to replace Nick even after we sign him. It’s time to put Winston, and Marpet together. Same age, same draft class, let’s do this already. Why waste 4 million on Hawley, is he a long term answer? Not much difference between him, and Smith, let him walk. Smith can back up all three interior line spots, and we can afford his last year. Move Marpet.
I trust that Jason Licht will evaluate this opportunity, including Mangold’s medical condition and the economics, and make a good decision. I don’t think we fans need to remind Jason to do his job – he’ll do it without our help or prodding.
If he is healthy this is a no brainer. We were willing to pay Joe Hawley to come back and be our center next year on a temporary basis so I’m not sure why we wouldn’t pay an upgrade to do the exact same thing. Grimes is 34, GMC will be 30 by the time the season starts so we don’t have spring chickens leading our defense. Give them the best shot of winning by putting upgrades on the team when possible. 2 year deal with a 2nd year option makes the most sense especially since we have the cap room to take on a little extra money this year.
This guy is better then what we have no matter the age. Absolutely sign him if he is healthy. Youth is good but that veteran experience in the locker room with a young team is invaluable.
I’m not sure moving Marpet to Center is a slam-dunk….and even if we did so, we’d then have a hole at OG. It may be that Gottschalk can come along in a couple more years to be our Center, suggesting that a 2-year veteran fill-in like Mangold would be very nice. Even if Gottschalk doesn’t progress, that gives us 2 years to find a replacement. We’re going to lose some of the bench strength (I use that term loosely) that we had, so somehow we’ll need to find more OLInemen this offseason, and it doesn’t seem (from PR’s view) like Licht is looking to the draft…so one way or another FA seems to be in the cards.
My hesitation is knowing that Licht now refuses to spend in FA on the top-tier. Having been burned by Collins and Johnson I don’t think we can expect any large spending, and with all of the league watching what ATL did with Alex Mack, it’s hard to see Mangold signing cheap, especially in Tampa Bay. My expectations are that we sign two or three guys that nobody has ever heard of….and probably not until after the draft.
Scott, Mark and Trevor I would imagine are all wishing this player was avaliable to reference during the assembly of their battle plans. I say take him at no more than 8 mil per if he’s checked out medically.
$8 million is a bit more than I would feel comfortable at. I like the $5-6, if that could get him here. However, if the Bucs ARE interested, they most certainly won’t be the only team. THEN it maybe becomes a bidding war. This is where Jameis can work his sales magic?
I’m sold. I imagine the buccaneers are quickly becoming an enticing place to land for free agents around the league. Having an o line with a vet of this caliber in the middle of it dramatically raises look of it. Smith, Sweezy, Mangold, Marpet, Pamphile…. yes please!!
I left Dotson out ultra intentionally.. I had a conversation in the stadium watching the Seahawks game and not one fan within earshot of that conversation believe DeMar is the answer. I wanted to believe the experiment had produced a sound answer at right tackle but we’re back to what we had with Trueblood. Too many infractions. He kills us.
I’m for leaving Marpet at RG. We have enough options with Gottachalk, Smith, Hawley and a Center drafted in the later rounds. Our Cap Money is going to go fast as we sign the core of our team in the next month, plus it all starts back over again with signingof more core players in 2018. Go Bucs!
Glad you’re back home safe and sound Horse. It just wasn’t the same on PR without you. What a great way to honor your triumphant return than an article about the centers in which you could bring up the name Gottschalk.
Yeah, welcome back Horse. Just chimed in to say you’ve been missed. Go Bucs!
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