The Reese’s 2020 Senior Bowl week officially begins on Tuesday morning with the players weigh-in and the first practices of the week, but the rumor mill was churning on Monday in Mobile, Ala. – and several of the most notable rumors on the Internet involved the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

PewterReport.com attempts to sort fact from fiction and offers up some exclusive insight into the Bucs’ plans at the Senior Bowl.

Rivers To Tampa Bay?

Philip Rivers to the Buccaneers to replace Jameis Winston?

Tampa Bay selecting Washington quarterback Jacob Eason in the second round of the 2020 NFL Draft to groom behind Rivers?

That’s supposedly the “chatter” coming from Mobile, Ala. as the Senior Bowl week begins.

At least that’s the chatter from ProFootballNetwork.com.

Chargers QB Philip Rivers
Chargers QB Philip Rivers – Photo by: Getty Images

Of course, the Rivers-to-Tampa Bay rumors took off on Sunday when ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported that Rivers and his family moved from San Diego to Florida to be closer to family. Rivers, who is the ultimate family man, had been making the daily one and a half hour commute from San Diego to Los Angeles to play quarterback for the Chargers the last few years following their relocation.

But would Rivers be willing to make the six-hour commute to Santa Rosa Beach in the Florida Panhandle region to Tampa to play for the Buccaneers? Now that’s a stretch.

Rivers to the Buccaneers is just speculation at this point, and the fact that’s actually being reported in story form rather than just Twitter conjecture may just be some circular reporting at play in this case, as one media outlet speculates and then another media outlet sees that and speculates upon that speculation – and then the chorus grows from there.

PewterReport.com probably played a role in this rumor growing some legs when we tweeted this on Sunday.

Hey, it’s an interesting scenario to think about.

Does the 38-year old Rivers coming to Tampa Bay make sense? Yes, possibly – but only if the Bucs didn’t want to re-sign Winston or use the franchise tag on him.

But PewterReport.com believes that the Bucs do want Winston back – at least for 2020 – and hasn’t heard anything to the contrary. If that’s the case, Rivers won’t be a Buccaneer.

However, if Winston somehow isn’t in play for Tampa Bay in 2020, then the Bucs would be interested in a proven veteran like Rivers because head coach Bruce Arians, who turns 68 this year, wants to win now – not draft a starting quarterback and wait several years for him to develop.

Arians might not see the end of his five-year contract and may want to opt for retirement sooner. A veteran quarterback – whether it’s Winston or someone else – gives Arians the best shot at making the playoffs and getting to the Super Bowl sooner rather than later.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston and GM Jason Licht - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs QB Jameis Winston and GM Jason Licht – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

You know who else wants to win now? General manager Jason Licht, who has had one winning season in six years in Tampa Bay. Licht needs to win now, either with Winston or another veteran QB. He doesn’t have time to draft another quarterback without a veteran starter in place first.

Rivers didn’t have his best season in 2019, throwing 20 interceptions, which were the third-highest in the NFL behind Cleveland’s Baker Mayfield (21) and Winston’s league-high 30, but he did pass for 4,615 yards and 23 touchdowns. Of course Rivers is just one year removed from a season in which he had a much more acceptable 32 touchdowns and 12 interceptions in 2018 while passing for 4,308 yards.

Rivers still has plenty of gas in the tank, as four years ago in 2016 he tossed 21 interceptions along with 33 touchdowns, but then had a better year in 2017 with 28 TDs and only 10 INTs. Rivers is still capable of bouncing back with a better year in 2020 – in Tampa Bay or elsewhere. I’m sure websites that post NFL game lines will soon have betting odds on Rivers’ next destination.

Bucs’ QB Buzz

Tampa Bay is doing its due diligence and will be scouting a pretty fair group of quarterbacks at the Senior Bowl. The Bucs won’t necessarily be looking at a potential replacement for Winston in a first-rounder like Oregon’s Justin Herbert or Utah State’s Jordan Love. What they’ll really be looking for is depth to serve in a backup role – likely as a Day 3 selection.

Like every NFL team, Tampa Bay will be interested to see how Oklahoma’s dual-threat QB Jalen Hurts performs in Mobile, in addition to Washington State’s Anthony Gordon, a Mike Leach “Air Raid” quarterback, who was featured in the initial PewterReport.com 2020 Bucs’ 7-Round Mock Draft. Does Gordon have the arm strength to succeed in Arians’ vertical passing attack?

Colorado’s Steven Montez has an NFL arm and NFL size at 6-foot-5, 235 pounds, but does he have the accuracy and quick decision-making necessary to play at the next level? The Bucs will be watching for that, too.

Washington QB Jacob Eason
Washington QB Jacob Eason – Photo by: Getty Images

As for Eason, he fits the mold of a Bucs quarterback because of his size, arm strength and pocket passer style, but he’s not in Mobile due to his junior status. With more pressing needs elsewhere it’s hard to see Tampa Bay drafting a quarterback like Eason in the second round.

Despite having the aging Carson Palmer under center in Arizona, Arians only drafted one quarterback with the Cardinals, and that was Logan Thomas, a fourth-rounder in 2014. He was cut before the start of his second season, and couldn’t make it as an NFL quarterback, having to switch positions to tight end.

Licht has only drafted one quarterback in his six years as the Bucs’ G.M. and that was Winston first overall in 2015.

Senior RB Class Underwhelming

Don’t look for the Bucs to draft a quarterback in the second round unless Love somehow falls out of the first round and is on the clock when Tampa Bay chooses. They’re much more likely to draft an offensive lineman, a pass rusher – either an interior defensive lineman or an edge rusher – or a running back in the second round.

That’s when Licht drafted running back Ronald Jones II in 2018, and the Bucs could be looking for another runner to pair with Jones and replace Peyton Barber, who underwhelmed in a contract year and will be an unrestricted free agent in 2019.

This year’s group of running backs at the Senior Bowl isn’t good, and it wouldn’t be surprising to see Tampa Bay’s attention turn towards the junior running backs in this year’s draft and not waste a lot of time on the backs in Mobile.

LSU RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire
LSU RB Clyde Edwards-Helaire – Photo by: Getty Images

Georgia’s D’Andre Swift, Ohio State’s J.K. Dobbins, LSU’s Clyde Edwards-Helaire, Wisconsin’s Jonathan Taylor are all juniors – and the headliners – and won’t last past the second round. Swift and Dobbins could even hear their names called in the latter part of the first round.

Don’t forget about Miami junior DeeJay Dallas, who figures to be a mid-round pick, either. Dallas went to the Bucs in the fourth round of the latest PewterReport.com 2020 Bucs’ 7-Round Mock Draft.

Tampa Bay Has Heavy Interest In Senior Bowl WRs

Senior Bowl executive director Jim Nagy said that this year’s group of Senior Bowl wide receivers could be the best collection of pass catchers in Mobile in recent memory. The headliner of the group is Arizona State speedster Brandon Aiyuk, who has the potential to go in the first round.

With Pro Bowlers Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, the Bucs aren’t looking to spend a premium pick on a wide receiver, but there is some concern that Breshad Perriman’s hot finish to the season may have priced him out of Tampa Bay. The Bucs would love to have Perriman back as the team’s third receiver, but unless he takes a decent hometown discount the team may not be able to afford him.

Bucs WR Justin Watson – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs WR Justin Watson – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

It took a long time – and injuries to Evans and Godwin – for Justin Watson to emerge as a potential weapon on offense. And rookie receiver Scotty Miller struggled with hamstring injuries at various points throughout the season. The Bucs don’t have much on the depth chart beyond Perriman, and Tampa Bay would love to draft a receiver to challenge that duo for the third receiver role if Perriman should depart.

Keep an eye on Tennessee’s Jauan Johnson, Liberty’s Antonio Gandy-Golden, Baylor’s Denzel Mims and SMU’s James Proche, who was featured in PewterReport.com’s 2020 Bucs’ 7-Round Mock Draft, at the Senior Bowl as Day 3 options for Tampa Bay.

Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

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  1. IMO Rivers isn’t an upgrade to Winston. He is older (Maybe too old) und would need time to understand Arians System. He Always had a lot of INTs so we would get the same result like with Winston

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    • Winston threw 10 more ints than Rivers.

      I don’t think Rivers is ideal either, but they’re not even close in the number of turnovers committed.

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      • For some context, in the last 5 years:

        Rivers has thrown 145 TD’s and 76 Int’s vs Winston’s 122 TD’s and 88 Int’s.
        Rivers has thrown for 22,616 yds vs Winston’s 19,737.
        Rivers’ completion rate is 64.7 (same as his career avg) vs Winston’s 61.3%.
        Rivers QBR avg is 94.3 vs Winston’s 86.9.
        Rivers YPA is 7.8 vs Winston’s 7.7.
        Rivers has 11 fewer fumbles and taken 9 less sacks despite being 12 years older.
        Rivers has never missed a start since 2006 despite being strictly a pocket passer.
        Rivers has been to the playoffs 5 times and has a 4-4 record.

        Winston leads in rushing yds/TD’s by a large margin.

        Not saying Rivers is the answer, but he’s definitely not the scrub some try to portray him to be. Personally like the fire he plays with and think that rubs off on his team as well. He doesn’t have to eat any W’s to do it either.

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        • Nice job on stats, FLBoy84. Shows that Rivers overall is a better QB than Winston, as much as people don’t want to admit it. Maybe not a lot better, but better nonetheless. The question is do they want a little better (and older) QB?

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          • My Problem with Rivers is the bad last Season and his age. If he Plays like 2 years ago he would be an upgrade. I rate the last Season higher.

            Finally we all don’t know.

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  2. Can not think of a better situation for Arians, Rivers would be perfect for 2-3 years. The Bust Jameis is huge risk for Arians who has just 1-2 more years to produce winning season.
    Any one with mind knows Jameis turnovers will continue 2020 as they have every year for last 5.

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    • Rivers is an older version of Winston. An aging arm with a lot of interceptions. And he’s never won a playoff game in his entire career. Even with all those weapons in San Diego. But of course bob with his limited understanding of football wouldn’t know this. Hopefully I cleared this up a bit for ya bud.

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      • sorry, correction. He’s been to the playoffs twice but never to the super bowl. Never finished my complete thought.

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        • According to Pro Football Reference, Rivers has been to the wildcard or playoffs 6 times and has a 5-6 record (my stat above is from CBS Sports, which is incorrect evidently). It’s cool to not be down with him as a Buc, but try and at least offer an honest assessment.

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        • Rivers also does not have the receivers the Bucs do. Who do the Chargers have? They do have excellent Keenen Allen who did recover from an injury, and second year Mike Williams who is making a name for himself – but after that – nothing at all. With only two solid options, he was limited in who he could throw to. Articles pointed this out all season in Los Angeles. Here is one for you.

          https://boltbeat.com/2019/05/15/the-state-of-the-chargers-2019-wide-receivers/

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      • Chef are you going to stay on Pewter after they dump Winston?
        As I stated many times if they keep Winston I am gone for good!
        I can not put myself thru this BS of Winston any more
        You know if they were keeping Winston most likely it would already be done
        you must be nervous

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        • Bucs are probably not going to give Winston more than one season at QB, no long term $30 million contract like he wants. They are also probably going to draft a QB in the later rounds, and look at the free agents out there. What they do is anyone’s guess – but the only safe bet at this point is no long term contract for Winston.

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        • Gonna hold you to that buc ass. If Winston is brought back ,please for the love of god go away.

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  3. If Rivers had purchased a house in the Tampa Bay area, then a Bucs deal with Rivers would make sense.

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    • Agreed. I thought him coming to FL made it very likely he was gonna sign with us, but a 6 hour commute? Probably not gonna happen.

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      • Actually closer to 8 hours.

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  4. Rivers is not an upgrade to Winston even if he was 25 and not 38. He throws lots of int. And never does squat in playoffs. No thanks.

    I hope Bucs can find way to keep Perriman.

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  5. Rivers has been a really great pro, except he hasn’t won anything in the playoffs. Also, he’s an asshole crybaby on the field.

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    • Do we really want to use the playoffs as a measure of whether we should sign (or resign?) a QB?

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      • Sure do swashbuckler thats what every holds jameis to, thats what well hold any qb to.

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        • I’ll take the QB with the 11 playoff appearances then… and a side of fries too. 😉

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    • C’mon Big, be better than that bro. Just because he hasn’t won a SB doesn’t mean he hasn’t had playoff success. He’s been in 11 playoff games and won all 4 Wildcard games and one Divisional game. And 4 of the 6 teams he lost to also went on to appear in the SB. Personally would kill to have that much playoff action around here, SB or not. Funny how we sometimes forget how long it’s been. The Bucs have 1 game as comparison during that time frame.

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      • Sorry, but I just hate that guys whiny sniveling cynical face, as pictured in this article.

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        • LOL, he can be a bit much sometimes I agree. Personally like his fire that he brings a bit as well though sometimes. Would still prefer seeing his face on our sideline than a squinting JW or a JW doing his best Eli Manning impressions after each turnover…

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    • Pot, meet kettle

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  6. I’ll add my vote giving a thumbs down on bringing in Rivers. Older and has never won anything. That said, Scott, your letter to Jamies resonated. Watching playoff QB’s take care of the ball and either win games or keep their teams in contention reinforces the question of whether Jameis can actually change. As most know, I’m a supporter, but… If we make the change, I’d be in the camp of bringing in a veteran FA – pry Teddy Bridgewater out of Sean Payton’s hands – and then draft a guy in mid, later rounds.

    Regarding RB, I’m not a fan of drafting these guys in early rounds. O Lines make the biggest impact in the running game. Raheem Mostert is an undrafted RB out of Purdue and ran for 220 yards Sunday. As a Boilermakers fan, I remember him and his speed in college. The guy works incredibly hard and is a smart runner with good vision. Watch the highlights of the 49ers from Sunday and look at the running lanes he had to choose from. Not taking anything away from the guy, but the guys up front made a huge difference. Point is, there are great runners out there to be had throughout the draft. Diamond in the rough O lineman are a lot harder to find and take longer to develop. Premium picks need to be used to build the trenches.

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  7. Rivers is also a statue. If things break down in protection (that never happens with a Bucs O line lol) he will get killed. All you “Anyone is better than Winston” guys If you want see the wheels really come off big time wait until a team is blitzing Having success and or the o Line is having a bad day. Rivers can’t get away from anything.

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    • You do realize Rivers is 12 years older than Winston and, despite being a statue, has never missed a start since 2006 right? He also has 11 fewer fumbles and only taken 9 less sacks over the last 5 years too. Again, not saying he’s the answer, but stats matter too.

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      • You also realize philip has had a better running game, offensive line, and defense every year jameis has been in the league? Stats mean absolutely nothing without context.

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        • Not sure how any of those items you mention have anything to do with the fact that even as a statue, Rivers has only been sacked 11 less times than JW during the last 5 years and has gotten up and continued playing at the age of 38. Hasn’t missed a start since 2006. Point is his protection has broken down plenty over the last 5 years, much like the Bucs OL, yet he’s still standing.

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          • And so has Winston. Playing with a bad knee and a broken throwing hand among other injuries.

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          • Simply stating Rivers’ durability after taking a beating even at his age, which most seem to fail to acknowledge or comprehend here. You JW guys sure are touchy LOL

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  8. IMO Rivers is not the answer!

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  9. Couple of things Scott. Santa Rosa isn’t close to any NFL team, so no matter where Rivers goes, he won’t be driving to work. If the Glazers really wanted him, I guess they could afford to fly him home whenever he wanted, and I’m not talking about commercial flights. Speaking of the Glazers, you mention what may be good for Arains, and Licht, but neglect the owners themselves. What do they want? That’s the key question. They see the empty stadium, they know how season ticket sales are going. Do they want to throw big money at Winston knowing half the fan base wants him gone? I know it’s hard to figure out where the Glazers stand on Winston since they speak very little, but ultimately the decision to bring Jameis back doesn’t fall on Arains, or Licht. They will make their recommendations, and the Glazers will have final say.

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    • At what point have the Glazers wavered in their support for Licht or Winston? They re-upped Licht under the radar last year to the tune of 5 more years. To further show you how little they care about fan opinion on their employees, consider they signed off on Donovan Smith and let Licht jettison a “loved” player like McCoy. Bottom line: McCoy sucked, Smith didn’t.

      If you think critically and logically, it seems obvious that Winston will be back. Phil Rivers moving to Florida only serves to drive down the guaranteed base salary Winston will be offered.

      Sorry that makes your head explode.

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      • Can’t recall the Glazers ever really publicly wavering against a HC or GM… until they abruptly fired them. Just because they don’t air their laundry publicly doesn’t mean discussions aren’t being held. And McCoy wasn’t as “loved” universally as you seem to think. Lynch, Brooks, and Dunn on the other hand… Truth is none of us have a clue what decision is going to be made, whether we claim to or not.

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        • Proof is in the pudding. Licht just signed his second contract with the Glazers.

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          • Jason’s a nice guy and all, but believe that had MUCH more to do with getting BA to agree to become the Bucs HC than with any long-standing admiration for the amazing job Licht has done in creating a roster that’s gone 34-62 during his tenure as GM. Let me repeat that…. 34-62. That’s pudding for you. 😉

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        • 34-62 and a new deal to run through 2024! How bout them apples!

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          • Apples or pudding doesn’t make it any prettier… 🙂

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      • Pot, meet kettle

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        • You guys are making me hungry.

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  10. Phil Rivers here would be about the dumbest thing they could do. He’s on his last legs. He would melt down here in this humidity not to mention his career is over. Licht is a nit wit but I don’t think he’s that dumb.

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  11. Oh one other thing Scott. You mention Arains only drafted one QB in the fourth round during his time in AZ. You failed to mention he said he was going to draft D. Jackson in the first round, but he was picked one spot ahead of AZ by Houston. It seems lately when you write about Winston, you leave little facts out like that to spread your narrative that bringing back Jameis is our best, and only option.

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    • What QB? Im not familiar with D. Jackson.

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      • Think he’s referring to Deshaun Jackson with the Texans….

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        • Deshaun Watson, I think all of you mean.

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          • LOL! Yup.

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  12. Is there anyone or any situation more frustrating than James Winston? It has been painful to watch at times. With all the players we “have to” resign, we just can’t afford to pay him thirty million a year. Maybe an incentive laden contract, say twenty million. If he is unwilling to take it, then let’s move on. Either way, I don’t think Rivers is the answer. I agree with Fredster, I doubt he could survive our offensive line.

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    • Cincinatti Bengal Andy Dalton is 0-4 in the playoffs. He’s ok until he gets there, then he’s awful.

      No one knows what Winston is in the playoffs because this defense has never been good enough during his time in Tampa.

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      • Jamies beat a pretty good Auburn team to win a national championship, was beaten by a better Oregon team the year after. When Oregon established themselves as the better team in that second game, my take is we saw the Jameis we see now – taking risks and trying too hard to make everything happen on his own, then turn the ball over.

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      • Even worse, Dalton has 1 TD and 6 Ints in those games. He goes full meltdown in the playoffs.

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        • Thank you! Exactly my point about Dalton! How frustrating would that be??

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      • The 130 or so times he gave up possession of the ball had nothing to do with it

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    • I think an incentive laden contract for Winston makes the most sense. Prove it or lose it.

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  13. Rivers could never survive the punishment Winston took so I don’t believe he’s even a candidate for the Bucs.

    For some of you who aren’t aware of the Forgotten Coast? The panhandle has one of the best beaches in the United States and were rated either number one or two for decades.
    It is a favorite spot for Alabama and Mississippi, Northern Florida citizens having property along these beaches is the norm, so don’t take any thought about Rivers being there other than to enjoy the beach area. I’m sure he also has a home in Alabama too.
    Many of us Tallahassee citizens had Beach property along the beaches and we had ours at Cape San Blas. The water along the panhandle is still aqua green and the middle grounds is only several miles from the coast which makes fishing fantastic.

    I think I would focus on Tannyhill and Bridgewater over Rivers or Brady. If we are going to make a change from Winston.

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    • For the people who have voted negative.
      The truth is the truth.
      Rivers purchased property in Destin Florida.
      Look up property records and see how many Alabamians/Mississippians/Floridians have property there as a second home or are retired there and that area.

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    • Again, Rivers is TWELVE years older than Winston, has only taken 9 less sacks over the last 5 years and hasn’t missed a start since 2006. Cool to have an opinion, but at least try and make it an informed one. Rivers IS NOT a fragile QB, regardless of age.

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      • Stop with the sacks, if thats the only stat you got, it doesnt mean squat. You vaguely continue to leave out the chargers running game and the fact that jameis has passed the ball way more than rivers. Might want to take your own advice and make an informed opinion.

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        • There’s a bunch of stats up top too btw cg if you need some. Here’s more: Rivers has thrown 2.913 passes since 2015 compared to Winston’s 2,548. In 2019 Winston threw a WHOPPING 35 (2.1875 per game) more than Rivers. Presuming that’s the “way more” you were referring to in your informed opinion above. 😉 Also guessing that you’re not getting that the reason I’m bringing up sacks in those posts is in response to people that keep pushing the “Rivers could never survive the punishment”… “he will get killed with this OL”, etc.. narrative. The dude has been sacked 446 times in his career (JW 169 for those curious) and hit numerous more times than that I’m sure, and yet has NEVER missed a start. Not saying he’s the answer, just providing some context (know how you like that word) to rebut that narrative is all. He’s only a 1-2 year stopgap probably if he even comes here, and is definitely a pocket-passing statue, but he’s a damn tough sob is all I’m saying, contrary to what some seem to think.

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      • All the more reason he will be sacked and hurried than he has seen before.

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        • REALLY funny then that PFF just ranked the Bucs OL #7 at the end of this season and the Chargers 29th. Not that I think PFF is the end all/be all, but it’s just another example that deflates the false narrative against Rivers being battered as a Buc as well as disputes one of the main excuses given for JW’s poor turnover issue.

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        • And as a reference, they had the Bucs OL ranked 24th going INTO the season and the Chargers OL 29th for what it’s worth.

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  14. My bad D. Watson. Not your typical pocket passer most would think Arains would want. So what I’m saying is, anything might be possible this off season. Another thing to remember is Arains didn’t draft Winston, he’s not tied to him in the way Licht is. I’ll close with what BA said at seasons end. When asked if he thought he could win with another QB? Oh sure, I have a defense now. What’s the worst thing you can do to a good defense? Turn the ball over.

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    • BA doesn’t have another year to waste hoping that Winston can figure things out. Nor does Licht. Nor do the Glazers who’ve seen more and more fans giving up on the team after season after season of losing football.

      It’s time. I don’t want Rivers but if you told me we canned Winston, signed Rivers to a deal we could get out of with no cap hit after two years and drafted a QB in the first two rounds this year, I’d feel better about the outlook than I’ve felt in years.

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  15. One more thing – was pretty disappointed in Justin Watson this season. He look tentative on offense, scared on special teams. Maybe his learning curve, adjustment to the NFL will take a little longer, but thought he would be stronger than what he showed.

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  16. “General manager Jason Licht, who has had one winning season in six years in Tampa Bay. Licht needs to win now,”…

    Why does Licht have to win now? The Glazers have never seemed to hold him responsible. If he wasn’t let go by now, after a litany of mistakes, why all of the sudden is the 2020 season so critical? In fact, PR has suggested for more than a year that Licht and Arians are tied together…as long as Bruce is here, so is Jason. So why all of the sudden is it “win now or else”?

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  17. The University of Miami is a train wreck this year, but keep an eye on WR Jeff Thomas. He’s got the clutch gene and would be a nice #3 option in the mid-rounds.

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  18. Have we even heard from the Glazers, personally, on their thoughts on resigning Jameis and the team in general? A state of affairs of the Bucs if u will? Don’t they live in Palm Beach? Why aren’t they more vocal about their team? Just curious.

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  19. I said it before and I’ll say it again… u may find a QB that will protect the ball better and thus have fewer INTs, but Jameis’s numbers are not that easy to replicate! 8 men in history of NFL have thrown for 5000yards! Guys that can do this are not many… and I don’t think there r any in this Free Agent class that can do so… at least not at their current older age! I’m just saying…

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    • What matters is the net of positives and negatives not the gross. Winston’s negatives negate his positives.

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  20. So … he has a place that isn’t even in the same time zone as Tampa.. yeh, 100% he coming here. If this is the direction Tampa goes, I will start yelling again for a president of football ops or I will just quit watching until my kids stop playing sports.. I don’t mind moving from Winston ifff, you decide to try to significantly upgrade for the future. If the Bucs truly think they are close and Winston was the problem, then how will they fix the net punting, YPC, FG% and 30th ranked pass defense.

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    • Thank you tnew. You seem to be one of the few of us who actually realize outside of jameis turnover problem, we still have a pathetic run game and a defense that has been terrible for the last 5 years.

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  21. Jameis is 26! It’s all about the numbers on us resigning him. 23-25 mil per with incentives and perhaps a signing bonus… structure it anyway that u have to allow a little more flexibility in the Cap to sign a couple more supporting cast members. If this off-season is done correctly and cuts made surgically… I believe the Bucs can’t compete for a Division title thus making the playoffs!

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  22. “They can compete”

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  23. IMO if the Bucs move on from Winston, They won’t (FML), then I think Teddy Bridgewater would be the Bucs target from day one of Free Agency. Rivers is going to go to a team that is closer to making a Super Bowl run than the Bucs.

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  24. Rivers has better stats, and will be cheaper than Jameis. He is the perfect bandaid for a year while Arians grooms the drafted replacement behind him.

    The 6 hour commute doesn’t mean dick. He could rent an apartment during the season near Tampa and his family could travel to see him and visa versa. That’s a one hour plane ride. It ain’t shit. Especially when your owners own a private plane. It’s nothing.

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  25. I can’t believe there are so many comments from folks actually spending their time discussing and researching a QB closing in on the end of his career. Heck, I can’t believe I’m commenting on the comments.

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    • Definitely agree that we need to find a franchise QB at some point, but personally have no issue with signing an older 1-2 year bridge QB , with plenty of playoff experience btw, while we draft and develop another young QB for a year or two. Main priority for me is tasting the playoffs again, even IF it’s with a 38 yo QB. Rivers gives us a better chance to do that next year imo, if for nothing else than because his teams have made it there 6 times already. Seems like many have gotten comfortable with sitting at home watching other teams play in them for the last 12 years.

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  26. As I said on Twitter: Rivers seems like a good dude off field. On field (and I live in AFC West country), he vacillates between petty and petulant. I would support him on the Bucs, but he’s a very unlikeable persona on the gridiron. For my money, you’re better off seeing if Jameis has a final form greater than Rivers. His (Rivers’) act will wear thin in Tampa quickly.

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