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FAB 1. An Open Letter To Winston

I begin this week’s SR’s Fab 5 with an open letter to Bucs quarterback Jameis Winston, who is coming off a fifth-year option in which he was paid $20.92 million and will either be re-signed by Tampa Bay or become an unrestricted free agent in 2020.

Dear Jameis,

Five years has come and gone so quickly. It seems like yesterday that PewterReport.com had you in all five of its Bucs mock drafts in 2015 while some in the Tampa Bay area media and fan base were clamoring for Marcus Mariota instead.

Mariota may have gotten the better of you in the Rose Bowl and in your first NFL game as a Buccaneer, but you ended the 2019 season with a franchise-record 5,109 passing yards – and became just the eighth QB in NFL history to eclipse 5,000 yards – while Mariota ended the season benched in favor of Ryan Tannehill.

Both you and Mariota came into the league together and will enter free agency together, but you’re going to be making a king’s ransom as an NFL starter with your second contract, while he will likely be looking for a backup job in the league, perhaps on a one-year deal for far fewer dollars.

It’s incredible to note that in over four decades of football, the Buccaneers have never re-signed a quarterback that the team has drafted.

You could be the first.

I hope you’re the first.

I’ve wanted you to be Tampa Bay’s franchise quarterback since the 2015 NFL Draft. You have everything going for you from your amazing work ethic, to your charisma and leadership ability, to your strong arm and playmaking skills.

You can rack up passing yards galore like it’s nobody’s business – even with a broken thumb. Your NFL-record back-to-back 450-yard passing games in two wins this past year was stunning.

Your 33 touchdown passes beat your own Bucs record and were the second most in the league this year.

It’s just those damn turnovers – those 30 interceptions – that are the killer.

You know it, the Bucs know it and Tampa Bay fans know it.

If you didn’t have a track record for throwing interceptions – a lot of interceptions – you would have already been signed to a contract extension by now. It probably would have happened last year instead of the team picking up your fifth-year option.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston
Bucs QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

I think I have been one of the most fair and objective reporters that have covered you during your time in Tampa Bay. I’ve praised your exploits and questioned your shortcomings.

If touchdowns are “A’s” and interceptions are “F’s,” despite throwing for over 5,000 yards and 33 touchdowns, you’d be considered a “C-plus” quarterback this past season because of your league-leading 30 INTs. Yet your agent will try to convince the Bucs that you’re worth “A” money.

Not all of those interceptions are your fault, as PewterReport.com’s Trevor Sikkema pointed out in his extensive All-22 Film Review. But the fewest interceptions you’ve thrown in your Tampa Bay career were 11 in 13 games in 2017. Your fewest INTs over a full 16-game season were 15 in 2015, which was your rookie year.

Yet you doubled that number despite four more years worth of experience – and in a contract year. You’ll have to forgive the Bucs as they pause to figure out what to do with you.

You know the options – a multi-year contract extension, the franchise tag and letting you test the free agent market where you could leave and/or the team could find another option at QB.

Keep in mind that of all the quarterbacks in this year’s playoffs, San Francisco’s Jimmy Garoppolo threw the most interceptions with 13, followed by Houston’s DeShaun Watson, who threw 12. Next up were Buffalo’s Josh Allen, who only threw nine interceptions, and then New England’s Tom Brady, who had just eight INTs.

The 5,000 yards were nice, as were the 33 touchdowns, but at the end of the day that wasn’t good enough to get the Bucs more than seven wins.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston and WR Chris Godwin - Photo by Will Vragovic/Getty Images
Bucs QB Jameis Winston and WR Chris Godwin – Photo by Getty Images

Sure, you don’t blow any coverages in the secondary, Jameis, or miss any field goals yourself. Football is the ultimate team sport. But we all know those 30 interceptions had a lot to do with the Bucs missing the playoffs.

The first rule of football is “Don’t beat yourself.”

The number one way for a team to beat itself in football is with turnovers – self-inflicted wounds.

Are you capable of throwing a dozen interceptions or fewer in a season? That’s what Jason Licht, Bruce Arians, Byron Leftwich, Clyde Christensen and the Glazers are wondering right now.

They love everything about you – except for those turnovers.

The Quarterback Whisperer tried to whisper “don’t turn the ball over” to you last year when he cleared the deck for you to be the wire-to-wire starter. If you come back next year prepare for Arians to become The Quarterback Yeller because he’s not going to put up with those INTs in 2020 for the sake of the team.

The thing is, you knew you couldn’t keep turning the ball over – you kept saying it in post-game press conference after post-game press conference. Yet those interceptions kept happening all season until your very last pass.

So forgive the Bucs if they haven’t offered you a contract extension yet. You gave them 30 good reasons to hem and haw – or at least 16.5 reasons, according to Sikkema’s film study.

I think the Bucs want to give you a multi-year contract extension – if you’re reasonable in your contract requests/demands. I think Arians will want to continue to work with you because of his ego – he believes he can fix you because in his mind he can fix any quarterback. Arians’ track record tells him so.

You would be wise to want to stick with Arians and stay in Tampa Bay – even if it means taking less money than you might be able to make elsewhere.

If you could pass for 5,109 yards and 33 touchdowns in the first year that you, Mike Evans, Chris Godwin and others are learning the offense, what does the future hold over the next couple of years once you all master Arians’ playbook?

Former Arizona QB Carson Palmer said you could be in for a “massive year” in 2020. And who would know better than a former Arians quarterback.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston and head coach Bruce Arians
Bucs QB Jameis Winston and head coach Bruce Arians – Photo by: Getty Images

Is the grass greener elsewhere? What team are you going to go to that has better weapons and such a pass-happy, quarterback-friendly system?

Your agent, Joel Segal, and likely some friends and family members will want you to get every dime you can out of the Glazers due to your free agent status. There’s nothing wrong with that. They have your best interests in mind.

But Joel Segal isn’t a Buccaneer, nor is anyone in your family.

They don’t go in the locker room. They don’t go on the practice field. They’re in the stands on Sundays while you’re on the field.

The more money you take, the less there is to go around for all of your free agent teammates. The difference between $21 million per year, which is a little more than you made last season in your fifth-year option, and $27 million is not just $6 million. It’s the 2020 salary of Cameron Brate, one of your favorite targets in the red zone.

The difference between $21 million per year and $32 million per year, which you might be tempted to ask for considering that’s what Carson Wentz’s new deal averages per year, is what Brate and Breshad Perriman combined to make in 2019.

Now imagine not having Brate and Perriman because of that extra $11 million.

Imagine the Bucs not being able to extend Godwin’s contract this offseason.

Bucs TE Cameron Brate and QB Jameis Winston
Bucs TE Cameron Brate and QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Jameis, if we’re being honest here, you’re not worth $30 million – just because that happens to be the the current going rate for QBs.

You’ve been to one Pro Bowl because a slew of QBs backed out during your rookie year, and you’ve yet to guide this team to the playoffs. The Bucs have had just one winning season out of the five years you’ve played in Tampa Bay.

I would buy the excuses about a lack of a running game, the missed field goals and the porous defense if you had protected the ball better, but with over 100 turnovers since you’ve entered the league, you’ve been just as much of a culprit as your teammates when it comes to missing the postseason.

Now if you had averaged only 10 or 11 interceptions per season you’d have a much stronger argument, but you’ve averaged 17.6 INTs per year.

If you’re not worth $30 million – and consider that every QB (Russell Wilson, Ben Roethlisberger, Aaron Rodgers, Jared Goff, Matt Ryan and Wentz) that averages at least that much money per year has been to the Super Bowl – then how much are you worth in my mind? Somewhere between $27-$28 million per year like Kirk Cousins, Jacoby Brissett, Matthew Stafford and Garoppolo?

All of those QBs except for Brissett have made it to the playoffs, and the Colts were foolish to pay him that much.

Jameis, I would actually put you in a class between Drew Brees and Tom Brady – two of the best ever to play the game.

Of course, Brees is the 12th-highest paid quarterback and averages $25 million per season, while Brady, the greatest QB of all time, is the 14th-highest paid signal caller at $23 million.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston and Saints QB Drew Brees
Bucs QB Jameis Winston and Saints QB Drew Brees – Photo by: Getty Images

Why are two future Hall of Famers fine with making less than Brissett, Stafford and Derek Carr? Because they want to win.

Brees and Brady know that the more money they demand the less money their teams will have for weapons to put around them on offense and for defenders who can create turnovers to give the ball back to them.

Yes, Brees is 41 and has already made hundreds of millions of dollars in the NFL, so it’s easier for him to make that call because he isn’t on his second contract. He’s on his fourth or fifth contract most likely. The same is true for the 43-year old Brady.

But you see yourself in their class one day, don’t you, Jameis? You see yourself playing until your 40 and winning Super Bowls.

So why not bet on yourself like Shaquil Barrett did and Jason Pierre-Paul did this past year in Tampa Bay?

Ask for a base salary of $23 million – equal to what Brady got last year – with an incentive package that rewards you for Pro Bowls, for making the playoffs, for leading the league in passing yards, for hitting 30 touchdowns or more – and for throwing less than 15 interceptions. Have those incentive clauses be worth an extra $10 million in total that could put you in the top 3 QB realm moneywise.

Your agent isn’t going to tell you to take a little less, nor is a family member.

But it’s not their contract. It’s yours.

It’s not their career. It’s yours.

It’s not their team. It’s yours.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston and WR Breshad Perriman
Bucs QB Jameis Winston and WR Breshad Perriman – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

With over half a dozen starters among the 19 looming unrestricted free agents, including yourself, how much you ask for/demand will affect how many can return.

Do you want Brate to stay in Tampa Bay? Would you like Perriman back to throw to?

Would you like the Bucs to be able to keep Barrett, the league’s sack leader, and Pierre-Paul, who brought leadership and 8.5 sacks to the team over the last 10 games of the season?

Do you want a career like Brees and Brady? Then learn some lessons from the way they handle their business with a team-first attitude.

There was a time when Stafford was the league’s highest-paid quarterback and highest-paid player. Did that big contract get the Lions to the playoffs? No.

I would love to see you back in Tampa Bay, Jameis – continuing to work with Arians and throwing to Evans and Godwin. But it has to be at the right price.

The amount you ask for has to be reasonable. Asking for $30 million or more per year is not reasonable. The records you set this year and throughout your five years in the NFL are great, but rings are way better than records.

Just ask Dan Marino.

One last word of advice as you enter into your first contract negotiations with the Bucs since your rookie deal. Ultimately you will be dealing with the Glazers – not just Licht and director of football administration Mike Greenberg.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston & GM Jason Licht – Photo courtesy of the Buccaneers
Bucs QB Jameis Winston & GM Jason Licht – Photo courtesy of the Buccaneers

Be careful how you tread because the Glazers have loyally stuck by you twice – during the pre-draft process and again after the Uber incident that led to your three-game suspension in 2018. Loyalty means a lot to them.

If I’m the Glazers, I’m expecting some loyalty from you, Jameis. I’m expecting a little bit of a hometown discount considering you’re just 26 and haven’t fully arrived as a perennial Pro Bowl and playoff quarterback.

If you or your agent somehow crosses the Glazers, they could opt to move in a different direction in free agency or the draft. There are other options this year.

Just keep that in mind – and ask for a fair, incentive-laden contract. Good luck, Jameis.

Here’s hoping you break another Bucs record and become the first QB in franchise history to get re-signed.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

54 COMMENTS

  1. Leave it to SR to begin an “open letter” by patting himself on the back.

    Smh…

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    • He’s self employed because he couldn’t make it working for someone else.

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      • He’s not “self-employed. He doesn’t own Pewter Report.

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  2. Great work on the Fab 5, Scott! I think that letter sums it up for my sentiments on Jameis. I’m guessing that if he would be will to take a modest (20-25M base with incentives), it could help the entire organization finally break through into the playoffs. The whole Brady thing is a joke. He can air it out anymore like Arians would need him to and he wouldn’t have time left in his career to develop the necessary chemistry with this team. Kuechly is gone from Carolina now… It’s only a matter of time before Ryan & Brees are gone and the Bucs could be in prime position with a QB in his prime. My hope is that BA is going to further tweak the offense this year to be a better fit for Jameis. You know that Jameis is going to work is a** off to improve. Licht will keep putting a better team around him (Who brought in Barrett again?) and this team will have finally grown together like the early Dungy teams. Yeah, I know… Glass is half full; I’ve seen 40 years of this team’s futility and this team is much more talented than most of them at this point with better coaching. No more damn excuses…Get it done in 2020.

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    • I am stunned to see so many people call Brady the “greatest”. He has never been the best quarterback at any time in his career, and certainly not now. He has been a excellent game manager, accurate and consistent and a perfect cog in the Belichek machine. But when you look at his below average athleticism and skills, he was never one to carry a team like Aron Rogers, Drew Bree’s, Russell Wilson..etc. He has a great winning record because of his coach, always having a great defense and utilsing Brady in a dink and dunk passing game. Just watch the tape of last years Afc title game…he did not make a pass more than 20 yards, with 3 interceptions. On Mahomes…that is a quarterback.
      It’s sad to see SR think that getting Brady means the Bucs will get the Pats defense and running game. Cmon guys..grow up!

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  3. Good stuff scott. I think we all can agree with your thoughts on jameis’contract situation, even his staunchest supporters like me. As for Tom, no one would say no to the goat, but this offense would have to completely change for him to work in it.
    Should be an interesting offseason in terms of money for all these players.
    As for the draft, first pick has to on either side of the trenches. For the love of god ,dont draft a safety at the first pick.

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  4. So much wrong with this Fab 5 starting with your statement Scott that you actually think Jameis is somewhere between Brees, and Brady. I’m still laughing over that one. Then you go on to say how the Bucs went toe, to toe with this years playoff teams. Come on Scott, you know the playoffs are a whole different animal then the regular season. Since the Bucs couldn’t beat those teams then, they’d have less of a chance in the playoffs, that’s if Jameis could take them there. Vabrel, and our old friend John Robinson had the guts to bench Mariota, and go with Tannehill, their guts paid off. We can do better then ATM Winston, or should at least try.

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    • Mariota was benched because he couldnt score points. You see that problem with jameis? You see a runningback like henry on our roster? You see us ever winning a gsme where the qb can throw for under 100 yards 2 games in a row like Tannehill? We get it, you dont like jameis, but you completely lack context on some things.

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    • You gotta read bro, he meant money wise.

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      • Being between Brady and Brees that is.

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    • I hope Jameis signs a team friendly contact. I mean 20 million can support your family as well as 30 million.

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  5. This has been my contention from the start. I really want Winston back, at the right price. This team is not constructed to handle a $30M QB, no matter who the QB is. I’m hoping the next CBA does some veteran exceptions like in the NBA that helps keeping your own players. Giving some cap relief by signing your own stars. Until then, affording guys like Evans, Godwin and Winston requires they all sacrifice to keep the team together. The decision is as much for Winston as it is the Bucs. I would LOVE to see him proactively go in and start negotiating with a long term plan in mind for how the team is constructed. I want my QB to have that level of professional maturity. If Winston doesn’t, then he’s the wrong guy.

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  6. Unless Tampa gives Jameis a deal to play next year Jameis will be looking for a back up spot along with Mariota
    Tiatians did not stick with there draft mistake brought in Tannerhill and look where they are. Bruce Arians did a better job than I excepted I will always wonder what Bucs could have done with out the 5 year in a row league leader in INT and fumbles.
    Sorry for being so blunt but only morons would want keep this loser
    L O S E R For 6th year!!!!!!!

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    • Only MORONS would get rid of jameis without a plan? You got one? Somehow i doubt in your limited wisdom you do. All i see from the anti jameis crowd is get rid of him with not one of you having a back up plan.

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      • Any average QB would be better than a loser turnover machine IE
        Just look at Tannerhill by no means top QB but can run a plan and protect ball!

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        • You mean Ryan Tannihill whose thrown for 237 TOTAL yards in two playoff games? You think that would work in a Bruce Arians offense. See the problem with
          You Bob is that you never look at the bigger picture. BA doesn’t do “game manager” style quarterbacks. He likes the big arm gun slingers. I’m not making excuses for Jameis interceptions, but every QB in his system does that. It’s learning how to minimize. So no, an average dink and dunk Quarterback would not make it in this style of offense.

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          • You mean 160 yards. Wow spotted Tannehill a lot more yards than he had. haha

            And Tannehill was the highest rated quarterback since he took over. Just because they knew they couldn’t hang with high powered offenses they shoved Henry down their throat. Doesn’t mean he wasn’t the one who got them to the playoffs.

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  7. Hear! Hear!

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  8. If Jameis Winston cut his turnovers in half, that would still be too many turnovers. How many INT’s that Brady, Garappolo, Mahomes and other playoff team QB’s were not their fault?

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    • If If If If If how many years you people want say If I guess 5 years not enough for slow learners!

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      • If, if, if, if…If you would go away, we’d all appreciate it. You know so little about football, it’s embarrassing that you’re a Bucs “fan”. Please follow your hero Ryan Fitzpatrick to the Dolphins.

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  9. This question of ‘Can teams win with a QB who throws interceptions?’ has an answer.
    The answer is yes.

    I could see Winston succeeding in Pittsburgh. Before anyone says they would never sign a turnover machine like Winston becasue you can’t win like that, let’s look at Big Ben’s first 5 years.

    Big Ben’s first 5 years(2004-2008) in the NFL:
    1189 completions on 1905 attempts (62.4 completion %)
    101 TD’s / 69 INT’s
    14,974 yards
    His INT rate per attempt was 3.62%
    Head coaches: Cowher to Tomlin after 2005 Super Bowl Winning Coach Cowher retired.
    Team record with Ben as starter: 51-20
    2005 Super Bowl Stats for Big Ben: 9 of 21 for 123 yards and 2 interceptions with no touchdowns.

    Winston’s first 5 years in the NFL:
    1563 completions on 2548 attempts (61.3%)
    121 TD’s / 88 INT’s
    19,737
    INT rate per attempt of 3.45%
    Head Coaches: Lovie Smith to Dirk Koetter to Bruce Arians
    Team Record with Winston as starter: 28-42

    Jameis threw less interceptions per attempt than Ben Rothlisberger, yet the Steelers won 51 games with him including a superbowl because of their rushing attack featuring Jerome Bettis and Willie Parker(MVP).

    Will Pittsburgh fans, coaches, and front office people want to sign or trade for Winston? Who knows. Scandals involving the QB and young women in bars is nothing new to Pittsburgh. They’re unmoved by it. Their fans fill stadiums every week, home or away.

    If Winston does leave Tampa, I really hope he becomes a Steeler. He could thrive under Tomlin, their line, their defense, and their rushing attack.

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    • I didn’t mention the difficulty of playing in the NFC South vs a division like AFC North, but it does merit a mention. The same goes for Brady transplanting to the NFC South from the AFC East. Both of those AFC divisions are flat awful outside of perrenial front runners Pittsburgh and New England. Winning the division is the first step in qualifying for the post season. Atlanta, New Orleans, and Carolina have all been to the super bowl in the last 10 years.

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    • Just be careful when you are comparing different years. Passing stats were all worse for quarterbacks from 2004 thru 2008 compared with 2015 to 2019. It has gotten easier and easier to pass in the league. So when comparing stats from different years you have built in faults.

      We can be choose to be absurd doing that.
      Example – Joe Flacco is really as good as Johnny Unitas.
      Flacco career in Baltimore. He had 38,000 yards. He had 62% completion. He had 212 TD’s. 136 Ints in 11 seasons.
      Johnny Unitas in Baltimore. Had 40,000 yards. Had 55% completions. Had 287 TD’s and 246 Ints in 17 seasons.

      This is not to say you can’t want to have Winston back or think that Winston is better than Mason Rudolph.

      By the way that 2005 defense of the Steelers was ridiculously impressive. I think the Steelers won that Super Bowl despite Rothlesberger that year. They also stopped that freight train Indy team on the road in the playoffs that year.

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      • Johnny Unitas and Joe Flacco? Really?

        I understand your point about eras, but Big Ben is still an active player. Im not comparing Sid Luckman or Fran Tarkenton. Rothlisberger was in an offense Bruce Arians ran. It is appropriate because the guy threw 2 interceptions in the superbowl and won. They won by running the ball and taking shots downfield to HInes Ward(HOF).

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        • *And a great defense with a great coach who just made it in the hall of fame.

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  10. Nice retrospective of your career at PR Scott….glad it’s worked out for you.

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  11. I liked the open letter, Scott.

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  12. Very close to what I said a week or two ago, though I said $20 mil., but would have no problem with 23. Of course I got a boatload of thumbs downs, but I’ll say it again. This organization has bent over backwards to stick by and help Jameis. Time for him to step up and do the right thing for this organization. Help make room to keep this team together. A contract plus incentives should satisfy everyone…unless…Jameis’s only objective is to get the money and run. And if that is the case, let him run off elsewhere.

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  13. Mariota actually took his team to the playoffs, and won on the road diving into the end zone for the winning TD. I don’t recall Winston having ever done that cg27. Scoring points is great, if you win. It’s hard to win when your franchise QB spots the other team 7 points in 7 contests. Those are only the pick sixes. There were 23 other interceptions that prevented us from scoring, but helped the other team to score more points. So trash Mariota all you want, I actually think he isn’t that good. However he beat Winston in their last college game mainly because Winston melted down, and he beat him in their first pro game. He’s also never been suspended for grabbing a girls crutch, and as I said has been to the playoffs winning one. Jameis threw for 5000 yards, and 33 TD’s. Sorry, I’ll take the playoffs with a win.

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    • Football is a team game. I would take Winston over Mariota 6 days a week and twice on Sunday.

      Interceptions or not, he has the full faith of the players in the locker room. He is a tireless worker. He has matured. QB’s throw picks and sometimes they’re ugly. THe pick sixes are an aberation. Personally, I can’t wait to watch the guy lead a team to the playoffs and smash whoever is in the way, including homegrown doubters.

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  14. Fab 1 is dead on… Exactly the points that needed to be made. Every player has their right to be greedy, but these high paid QBs end up leading their teams to mediocrity for a decade. Watch what happens to KC once they pay Mahomes, they will have a Star QB and not much else, kind of like Green Bay has been for years and where Seattle is headed. You end up having to hope your other skill positions are a rotation if Draft Picks to be able to afford them. Brady has been the shining example of taking reasonable money to surround himself with the right pieces, I wish other QBs would do the same…

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  15. I just got an idea reading this. How about giving Jameis $40 million per year but subtract $1M for every interception. This year he would have only made $10M on that deal.

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  16. Brilliant, Scott. Very well written and on point. You’ve spelled out the primary pros and cons, plus the solution. Agree that JW’s talent is special and that he is the leader the Buc’s need, as long as he can control the turnovers better. “Home town discount” and “incentive-laden” are the keys to both. Thank you.

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    • Wow that letter was long, I don’t think Winston would read the whole thing LOL. The problem is Ariens won’t have any other quarterback in here that’s just average. As much as we all know we need a better running game this offense is designed to go vertical and Winston can do it. Go Bucs and maybe this offseasons will bring us fans hope

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  17. Yes! This offense is designed to go vertical, basically, but a solid Top 10 Run Game would still allow Jameis to get his “chunk” plays and probably even throw for close to 5000 yards again perhaps… maybe even in fewer attempts. Maybe fewer pass attempts will reduce the frequency of his INTs? The point being… I think the Bucs r only 2 OLinemen in the draft and a big time young, solid RB, perhaps one of the quality backs that will be available in the first 4 Rounds of the Draft. There seems to be several kids that appear to be project as solid NFL potential Backs. U get these 3 players and take care of ur own Free Agents that u want to resign and the Bucs will be a very formidable team to beat this coming season! I’m just saying…

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  18. DAMN, everyone so stuck on offense, and getting a running game. 100% love the idea BUT we lose bc 1. Winston turns the ball over and 2. Our defense cant stop anyone!! ANSWER: keep drafting DEFENSE until have a decent D! Love DT KINLAW or EPENESA in 1st, then get another D-lineman or at least next best Defensive player available in 2nd rd. Hell, then pick a few OL players in 3rd thru 6th. BUT for God sake, PLEASE do NOT go OL early, REINFORCE DL, keep improving DL. SUH and JPP only have 1 or 2 years left, at best, maybe. IF JPP doesnt tell BUCS to shove it?! BUILD STOUT DL at ALL costs!!! see 49ers and note playoff bound next 5 years bc one thing, best DL players!!!! ps. you can get serviceable OL thru free agency, but NOT a young productive cheap stud D-Lineman.
    SCOTT-GREAT ARTICLE. Best ive read, nice! GO BUCS!

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  19. Need pedigree O-linemen! A couple of quality picks, not the entire draft. And on Defense we r going to try to keep the band together. I don’t see this as being such a bad thing. Better value through draft for these OLinemen. Too expensive through free agency as we have one of the most expensive OLines as it is! Would love to see a stud left tackle taken and then see BA move Smith to the other side. Need better talent, if possible at that LT position. Smith is dependable for the most part but average. Probably won’t happen though…

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  20. Really looking forward to the rest of the Fab 4s. Great stuff.

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  21. Looking forward to reading Scott’s stories. In these days of folks changing jobs every few years as their incompetence starts to reveal itself; it’s refreshing to recognize Scott in his 25th year entertaining us. While many of us probably think it would be a dream gig schmoozing with their favorite team, I’m sure it’s a lot of stress and long hours doing it. Thank you Scott!

    The open letter to Jameis could have been written by most of us since it takes into account what is so obvious. While there are folks whose idea of an open letter to him would be a post-it note with the words, “Get Out!” none can offer a Joe Namath guarantee of more victories with his replacement.

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    • Scubog, totally agree with you.

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  22. OMG. In your long history of cotton candy spinster articles that is one of the most embarrassing things you’ve ever written. What’s more amazing is that I think you actually believe it.

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    • Embarrassing? I’d like to think that Scott knows ten times more than any of us about this team. Stop acting like you’re the GM, couch coach.

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  23. Remaining true to his name, DonkeyHunter got everything started off with a jackass comment.

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    • Sorry the truth rubs you the wrong way, buddy.

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  24. So you all agree with Scott that Jameis is somewhere between Brees, and Brady? That has got to be the dumbest thing Scott has ever written, and I go back to the print Pewter Report. I’d say Jameis is somewhere between Elmer Fud, and Wile E Coyote.

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    • It’s not the dumbest thing he’s ever written. Don’t you recall the piece he penned referring to Licht as a “genius” for the Aguayo pick?

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  25. Oh, throw Mr. Magoo in there too.

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  26. Good read. Always interesting to see how people got their start.

    That whole a Brady thing to me just doesn’t work. If he was 40 I’d say hell yes! At 43 you really think he can stay healthy now and play as we’ll week 16 as week 1? I don’t.

    Surfer dudes you sound about as objective as Dumb-ass- with all the hate Winston garbage. Yes I think Winston has huge upside and take look at the comparison with Big Ben. Oh and Mariota took the Titans to playoffs? Last I checked they had great defense and run game With Henry that took them there. And All Average Tannehill did this year was throw 100 yards per game and not fuck it up! With no offense and great defense and run game that’s what you do. They will be killed by Chiefs anyways and got lucky the Ravens played like it garbage. With A not great offense or run game you air it out. Something Tannehill will never do he doesn’t have the talent to. Mariota Is riding the pine this year and will never be a starter because he stinks and he can’t stay healthy either.

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  27. I hope Jameis signs a team friendly contact. I mean 20 million can support your family as well as 30 million.

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  28. Great FAB5, Scott. Completely agree with your letter Jameis. He’s worth low $20m’s in base, plus incentives for TD’s, INT’s, wins, playoffs. If he’s a mensch that’s where he’ll sign.

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  29. Scott, excellent Fab Five. I thought I was writing that letter that you put down in words that says it all to Jameis.
    This was the best Fab 5 I’ve ever read!

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  30. I suggest the Bucs give Winston a $50 Million Contract
    BUT every
    INT subtract 2 mil
    Fumble Lost sub 2 mil
    Win add 2 mil
    Loss subtract 2 mil

    Let’s assume Winston just performs to the average of the 12 QB that played all 16 games in 2019 and manages only 8-8 record, meaning the Bucs would not make the playoffs. He would make 22 Mil (50 – (14*2)).

    Now if he performs to the average but has a 10-6 record, he makes 8 mil or $30 mil.

    But if he plays like 2019, he would make nothing. Actually he would own the Bucs $24 mil.

    Only Buc Fans believe another team would give Winston a multi-year contract of over $20 a year.

    Also I removed Taysom Hill from the stats although he played all 16 games to be fair to Winston.

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  31. The farther we get from the 2019 season the pain of another losing campaign subsides to the point where multiple opinions develop regarding the Buc’s and 2020. At first pass I was convinced Jameis had to go. But then I wander if a few more FG’s and a few less penalties and a few more completions might have generated a 10-6 season. Maybe a little better schedule, and as always a few less key injuries? A lot of if’s but if the queen had balls she would be king. Let’s approach 2020 with optimism and see what BA does with what he has and what the Glazers can afford. For now I would franchise 58, offer 3 what he made in 2019. Build the trenches (O-line and D-line) with the draft and focus on the running game.

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