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FAB 1. Is It Fair For The Bucs To Evaluate Winston On Just 2019?

We’ve seen it all from Tampa Bay quarterback Jameis Winston this year.

We’ve seen the sterling performance in a 55-40 Week 4 upset of the Rams out in Los Angeles when Winston threw for 385 yards and four touchdowns with one interception and was the NFC Offensive Player of the Week – looking like the number one overall pick from the 2015 NFL Draft.

And we’ve seen an absolute clunker from Winston in a 37-26 loss to Carolina in London two weeks later when he passed for 400 yards with a career-high five interceptions and a fumble to go along with just one touchdown – a game in which Winston has lived up to his “turnover machine” moniker.

We’ve seen Winston play really well in a loss, as he did in a Week 3 32-31 defeat to New York when he passed for 380 yards and three touchdowns and one interception as he drove the Bucs down the field for a potential game-winning field goal, only to see rookie Matt Gay miss the kick.

And we’ve seen Winston play decent in a win against Arizona last week as he threw for 358 yards and just one touchdown with two interceptions.

There are seven more games to evaluate Winston before the Bucs have to make an absolutely monumental decision about whether or not he is the quarterback of the future in Tampa Bay. Winston is in an ever-important fifth-year option that is paying him $20.922 million in 2019.

With Winston coming into his first year with Bruce Arians throwing for 14,628 yards with a 61.6 percent career completion percentage and 88 touchdowns and 58 interceptions in his four years with Dirk Koetter, the question that has been on my mind for some time is how Arians would evaluate his quarterback.

So I asked Arians on Wednesday if he is going to evaluate Winston on his entire five-year body of work or just the 2019 season he’s spent coaching the team’s first-round pick in 2015.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston and head coach Bruce Arians
Bucs QB Jameis Winston and head coach Bruce Arians – Photo by: Getty Images

“I don’t give a shit about the last four [years],” Arians said. “I only care about when I had him. It doesn’t have shit to do with the Saints.”

Arians was a bit touchy about the subject because moments earlier he was asked about how he would evaluate Winston on the first nine games of the season.

“The last [three], very good – I think three for sure,” Arians said. “Still a little bit up and down at times, but [in] two-minute situations and bringing us from behind, he’s been excellent.”

Arians isn’t necessarily interested in evaluating Winston now. He’s focused on seeing how Winston and his Buccaneers team fare against visiting New Orleans. Arians, like most NFL head coaches, live week-to-week – and rightly so.

But let’s examine what Arians said because it was telling.

Arians told me that he wasn’t going to include Winston’s four previous years in Tampa Bay in his own personal evaluation. That’s erasing a lot of Winston’s interceptions and fumbles, as well as his underwhelming 21-33 record as a starter.

But it’s also erasing his back-to-back 4,000-yard seasons to start his career, his Pro Bowl berth in 2016 – albeit after several veteran QBs opted not to play in the all-star game – and the career-high 64.6 percent completion percentage Winston put up last year by starting nine of the 11 games he played in.

Arians would also be erasing Winston being the Bucs’ all-time leading passer and touchdown thrower, as well as his career low 2.5 interception rate in 2017 (he currently has a 3.9 INT rate this year, which is the highest of his career).

Bucs QB Jameis Winston and former HC Dirk Koetter - Photo by: Mary Holt/PR
Bucs QB Jameis Winston and former HC Dirk Koetter – Photo by: Mary Holt/PR

Perhaps the bigger question is, will Jason Licht and the Glazers just ignore – or maybe just devalue – Winston’s first four-years in Tampa Bay when it comes to their evaluation of him, too?

And if so, is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Because I’m not really sure.

What do you think, Bucs fans? I’m curious to get your opinions on it.

I don’t think Winston necessarily got the best coaching from 2015-18, nor do I believe that Koetter was in his corner then the way Arians is now. So I suppose I would weight what he does this year a bit more than how he performed under Koetter during his first four seasons in red and pewter.

But I would also take into consideration two things.

The first is that this is his initial season in Arians’ offense and there were bound to be some growing pains. Games against the 49ers, the Panthers and the Titans were evidence of that.

The second is that the narrative around Winston hasn’t changed a whole bunch. He still throws a bunch of touchdowns and a bunch of interceptions. He’s up to 17,393 yards passing with 105 touchdowns and 72 interceptions on his football card heading into this week’s game against the Saints.

On the year, Winston has completed 59.7 percent of his throws for 2,765 yards with 17 touchdowns and a league-high 14 interceptions. That puts him on pace to throw for a franchise-record 30 touchdowns and a career-high 24 interceptions, along with 4,915 yards, which would also be a new franchise record.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston - Photo by: Getty Images
Bucs QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Getty Images

Everything is great outside of those interceptions.

Winston added two more last Sunday against Arizona, but a strange thing happened.

Tampa Bay’s defense actually helped overcame them for a change. After Winston’s first pick, the Bucs defense held the Cardinals to a field goal. Following Winston’s second interception, linebacker Lavonte David got the ball right back to the offense with a forced fumble and fumble recovery in the red zone.

“That’s the big thing – when your defense gets turnover you want to score touchdowns,” Winston said. “And when you put your defense in a bad position you want them to get you the ball back. That’s called being great teammates, not saying, ‘Aw man, why are we in this situation?’ They go over there and say, ‘How can we make the best of this?’ They find a way to get the job done.”

I’ve always thought that Winston and his gunslinger mentality reminded me of Green Bay legend and Pro Football Hall of Famer Brett Favre, who threw his share of interceptions along with touchdowns. Hat tip to Bucs fan and @PewterReport follower @ShawnSagastume for the idea of the first five years statistical comparison between the QBs.


Packers general manager Ron Wolf and head coach Mike Holmgren knew that Favre was capable of throwing four touchdowns in a game – but also a pair of picks. Green Bay needed more than Pro Bowl safety LeRoy Butler on defense. The Packers needed more difference-makers on defense that could get the ball back for Favre when he made some errant throws.

So Green Bay signed All-Pro defensive end Reggie White in 1993, Pro Bowl defensive end Sean Jones in 1994, defensive tackle Santana Dotson in 1995 and former Pro Bowl free safety Eugene Robinson in 1996. Lo and behold, Favre grew in Holmgren’s offense and the Packers defense became formidable enough to win the Super Bowl during the 1996 season.

That’s what Licht has recognized as he has tried to load up the defensive side of the ball with the likes of outside linebackers Jason Pierre-Paul, Carl Nassib and Shaq Barrett, inside linebacker Devin White, defensive tackles Vita Vea, Beau Allen and Ndamukong Suh over the last two years.

Bucs CB Jamel Dean
Bucs CB Jamel Dean – Photo by: Getty Images

Licht has also thrown ample resources at the secondary by drafting four cornerbacks in Sean Murphy-Bunting, Jamel Dean, Carlton Davis and M.J. Stewart over the past two years, in addition to drafting safeties Mike Edwards and Jordan Whitehead and signing safeties Andrew Adams and Darian Stewart – although the youth and inexperience of the secondary has been the team’s Achilles heel this season.

If the front seven can continue to rush the passer and defend the run well, and the young secondary can mature by next year and become playmakers, Winston might have the help he needs to negate some of his turnovers.

Of the course the big question – will Winston be a Buccaneer in 2020?

Whether it’s just on this one year or all five years, Arians has said he will give Licht and the Glazers the truth about Winston.

“I will not lie – that’s for sure,” Arians said. “They’ll get my honest evaluation. That’s who I am, so I don’t think they have to worry about that.”

Arians has his reputation as “the quarterback whisperer” to uphold. It would hurt his ego a bit if Winston falters down the stretch and Arians’ latest reclamation project doesn’t work out.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston and GM Jason Licht - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs QB Jameis Winston and GM Jason Licht – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

But Arians is a winner and won’t want to beat a dead horse if Winston continues to turn the ball over at a high rate and the losses pile up. He won’t want Winston to be an albatross around his neck in 2020 unless he truly believes the arrow is pointing up with Winston and he can win with him.

The same goes for Licht. Love him or despise him as Tampa Bay’s general manager, but the guy doesn’t have much of an ego. He isn’t afraid to cut his losses on his draft mistakes and his misses in free agency.

That was evidenced after his first year on the job when he released quarterback Josh McCown, defensive end Michael Johnson and left tackle Anthony Collins after a 2-14 season. Licht also swung for the fence and traded up to draft kicker Roberto Aguayo in the second round in 2016, and then cut him a year a later after he didn’t pan out. Licht also parted ways with 2016 second round pick defensive end Noah Spence before the start of the season, and he just released first-round pick cornerback Vernon Hargeaves III this week.

Some NFL GMs hang on to mistakes because they don’t want to admit their wrong. Licht isn’t like that, which is a good thing. If he believes it’s too risky to re-sign Winston after this season – whether it’s to a long-term extension or the use of the franchise tag – he’ll give the Glazers his honest opinion.

Bucs QB Jameis Winston - Photo by: Getty Images
Bucs QB Jameis Winston – Photo by: Getty Images

Just like Arians will.

Whether it’s based on Winston’s five-year career in Tampa Bay or just this year will largely depend on how Winston finishes this season – and just how good this year ends up being for the quarterback and the Buccaneers.

Grab some more popcorn because this show isn’t over yet.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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Pete Wood

I don’t give a shit about the last four years either if Arians can fix Winston. I’ve done my share of complaining about Winston and if Bucs cut him I won’t be sad to see him go. However, I trust Arians more than my knee jerk reaction. I have been very happy with the decisions our coach has made and I am confident that whatever he decides to do with Winston will be the right call. Arians is willing to give somebody a second chance if that person works hard and improves. Like our kicker. And he’s not afraid to… Read more »

scot pederson

From year to year its quite apparent it doesnt matter what us fans think. Whether Arians wants to look at 4 years + 1 year only with him or just the 1 year really doesnt matter. Its the Glazers and J.Licht who pull the trigger or not. They have shown ever since they let their pro bowlers go years ago under Gruden that once the Glazers got a Super Bowl and moved their $ more to Manchester United, the Bucs are just a smaller profit center. So they are satisfied with Mediocrity. We had a chance to bring in a… Read more »

cgmaster27

Kind of hysterical you think jameis was propped up by humpheries. How he doing this year by the way. No on the contrary jameis MADE humpheries. Jamies also mad cam brate. So wlts not pretend the only reason jameis has any stats is because of his recievers. It goes hand in hand, someone has to trhow to them. Jameis first year he had 25 tds i believe throwing to the like of dantea dye, and freddie martino. Jameis has his flaws, the turn overs being the major one, but your logic is oretty flawed. Its even funnier how yoi ssy… Read more »

cgmaster27

Jesus, my spelling needs to be checked. Wish there was an edit option on here.

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EastEndBoy

There used to be one….way back…but it seems our terrible typing skills add the humor of the site generally, so we all have to live with it 🙂

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scot pederson

1st year Jameis had M. Evans as his #1 target then. Did you forget?

Adam Humphries caught the winning TD last week for the Titans on a team that doesnt have a duo like Evans & Godwin.

Humphries is on pace for 66 catches this season on a team that runs the ball a lot more than the Bucs. And the Titans were smarter by already moving on from Mariota. Our management is happy with sub-par or mediocrity football.

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EastEndBoy

Winston: I really don’t think it’s that hard. Jameis is exactly who we (should have) thought he was. He turns the ball over too much. He makes lots of excellent throws. He gets too excited in games and it clouds his mental abilities, to focus and execute. He has tons of talent. He’ll win some and he’ll lose some. BUT, we have never accepted that and done the one single thing that could take Jamies (as he is, was and always will be) and let that be a success on the filed…give him a high quality OLine. With the perennially… Read more »

twspin

Arians is gonna be here at least thru 2022. And he likes vet QB’s. He’s gonna keep Jameis..period. HE believes in his mind he is..starting to turn Jameis around. And the Glazers have no clue. Therefore they will go by what Licht and Arians say. Live or die..Jameis is gonna be here. So we’d better develop a kick A** monster Defense like we had back in the day to buffer Jameis’s F**k ups!

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Buc76

Get the best Right tackle available in next year’s draft or Draft the best Left Tackle available and move Donovan Smith to the right side. I am no fan of Jerry Jones but for about 3 or 4 years they kept drafting top tier lineman and now they have about the best in football. Try that for a change Licht!

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76Buc

Buc76 I’ve been saying the same thing about moving D. Smith to RT and drafting a top tier LT in the first round.

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pomer1eau

If Jameis balls out the rest of the season and they finish 9-7 or 8-8, then yeah the first 4 years wont matter and he will be praised for evolving into a franchise caliber QB. But If we see him have multiple games with multiple turnovers and finish the season with a losing record then it will be a story of how his whole career was full of blunders and will be called a bust. As we all know, its a what have you done for me lately league. And lately, Jameis and the offense has played well enough to… Read more »

twspin

8-8 is a stretch here. could happen. But I don’t think so. Like you say, Jameis and the offense is scoring quite bit. Which leads me to believe we gotta improve our defense to keep opponents under 14 or so. It can be done. We had this back in the day.

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pomer1eau

Exactly, I was just saying winning makes it easy to forget past mistakes but losing makes you dwell on them. Like you said if this team had a decent defense, they would have a winning record.

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Three things in Winston’s Defense; 1. He has never had a defense that he could rely on. 2. His offensive line has never been that great. 3. He has barely had a running game supporting him his entire career, until this year with Rojo. I’m not saying that his performance doesn’t yo-yo… It does. But, this is the second youngest team in the NFL. I think Jameis should be resigned to a long term contract. The other option is to start over and drop even further into the abyss for years (if that is possible?). I think that it would… Read more »

MizzouBucs24

The only way Winston isn’t here next is if we find a better option at QB. We still might draft QB and we should if one falls to us. We can win with Jameis but you can’t ask him to pack the whole team in his back. The Bucs will be whole lot better off if Arians can succeed with Winston than to start over with a rookie. I think this team is closer to being a playoff team than most think. If we play well down the stretch Jameis will definitely be back. With all the likely veteran QBs… Read more »

Horse

Scott, not much new information in this Fab Five. Nothing else to say.

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jongruden

I thought Winston coming out of college was at times exciting at times careless with the ball well 5 yrs later same opinion exists and Reynolds comparing Winston to Favre is funny wow ok really? Favre carried a team on his back esp in crunch time and is a two time NFL MVP SB winning qb so lets just stop there. Arians is a super loyal guy to me that has always been his downfall and I love Arians I think WInston will be signed to a one yr deal as he will say what we always kept saying ”… Read more »

BigSombrero

I stopped reading after the scenario was presented and the question was posed. Winston is going to be evaluated by this staff, like the last staff evaluated him, like the last staff evaluated him. Jason Licht will lend his opinion of Jameis’s last 4 years to the current coaching staff, I’m certain. Doesn’t matter though. This year is an accurate picture of his entire career. As usual, it is defined by record setting performances(both bad and good) and a losing record. It’s clear he has the ability to put up big numbers in any offense, but that’s because he’s throwing… Read more »

76Buc

The losing record is on the defense. I remember the Doomsday, Steel Curtain, Orange Crush, Purple People Eaters, Fearsome Foursome, No Name, and all the other famous names. Over the last several years ours has become known as the Paper Mache defense.

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Buc off

If we resign Winston, I will have officially given up on the Bucs. Likely stop watching football all together, there are 31 other QB playing today that would be a better choice for team that wants to win.

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chefboho

Really? That’s a bold statement. Would you want Daniel Jones, Mitch Trabisky, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jimmy G, mason rudolph, Jared Goff, Andy Dalton, or Joe flacco? I’d take Jameis over any one of those guys. Not saying Jamie’s is a top ten quarterback but he’s middle of the pick which is much better than any of the names I just listed below.

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Buc off

Absolutely I would and so would every single coach in the league. BA has been paid to fix a veteran who from college on has been a turnover machine and not accurate. You guys saying we could win with him are just wrong. Today we have one the most talented receiving corps in the league however to succeed with Winston we will need a very good defense, we can’t afford both, no team can for long and we can’t win without both with him. @twspin That’s a hell no, I have no affinity for Florida outside of Tampa\St Pete and… Read more »

CalBucsFan

As a Bucs fan living in SoCal, I see way too much of Goff, but with that said I would take Goff over Jameis in a heartbeat.

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twspin

Then go ahead and place your hands behind your back. We have the handcuffs at the ready! Jameis is gonna be here. Guess you’ll be a jags fan now huh?

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76Buc

Good riddance!

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GrayBalls

That might be the single dumbest thing I’ve read on this site, buc off. That’s hard to do when you have “contributors” like BUC-ASS-BOB

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surferdudes

Scott points to Winston’s numbers in the Giants game as being a positive, but it’s more the story of Jameis’s career, and season. Winston looked like a top five QB the first half of the Giants game racking up yards, and giving us an 18 point lead. However the second half of that game we got Mr. Hyde Winston who only completed 9 out of 15 for 117 yards no TD’s, and one interception. That game, his career, has been like that, it’s not going to change. Sure Jameis could lead us to a championship if we had the 85… Read more »

red816

When Arians says things like “ I don’t give a shit about the last four years”…that’s VERY concerning.

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chefboho

It is but in a way, it isn’t. Coaching makes a huge difference in player development. Do you think in any way that movie or Koetter are good coaches let alone teachers? We all know that the coaching of this team has been stagnant for over a decade.

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Buc off

Depends on how you look at it, that’s what he was hired to do. He wasn’t hired to make the team successful he was hired to fix Winston. BA is statistical speaking so far the worst coach the Bucs have had since Gruden left the team. You could also argue we’ve had the one of the softest schedules as result on league injures. Look I don’t hate Winston the man, but as QB he just doesn’t have the right the stuff. On the field he has the reaction time of my early stage Alzheimer father who even says he’s holding… Read more »

76Buc

He holds the ball a long time because of the offensive systems design. Both Koetter and BA have the QB hold the ball as the plays take a long time to develop. It’s not the Left Coast Offence.

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Hockey Duckie

From the article: “I don’t think Winston necessarily got the best coaching from 2015-18, nor do I believe that Koetter was in his corner then[sic] the way Arians is now. So I suppose I would weight what he does this year a bit more than how he performed under Koetter during his first four seasons in red and pewter.” I see. So this paragraph screams narcissism as you dictate who does best for Winston? Foolish. Now, Arians thought he can “fix” Winston before he came here. Thus, Arians saying the previous four years don’t matter is a lie. It matters,… Read more »

EastEndBoy

I appreciate the stats/facts.

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TBAtlas

Holy shit, that sack number just POPS out this year.

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norris3041

I think a more accurate comparison IS Jay Cutler. There stats are almost identical thru 60 games. I wish it was Farve but thats a silly comparison. I wouldn’t resign him because there just hasn’t been any real improvment. We actually scored more offensive tds last year thru 8 games than this year. Like Cutler, Jameis is capable of having that one great year, but his career will be mostly like what we have seen. He will be taged and get another year because BA, Jason and #3 are a package deal but I would move on. Rate this item:Thumb… Read more »

matador

Cutler is on the money norris

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norris3041

“The Bucs have finally found their kicker”… Thanks Scott for jinxing our kicker. We all know he looks great, but you can’t comment on that, it’s like talking about a no hitter in the 8th.

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seat26

Probably not fair to judge him just on this year alone, but this is essentially a contract year for him. It should be his best. I think we can fairly judge BA by Winston’s record this year. IF there is a marked improvement, Bravo! If he continues to turn over the ball over hurting the team then it is just more of the same.

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The Vicness

If he was lighting the world on fire, everyone one of these pundits would be saying judge him on this year. Now that he sucks, again, as his inconsistency has never and probably will never change, we should take it all into account? If by this year alone – Leads the league in interceptions (and shoulda been intercepted), fumbles a lot, takes bad sacks, and doesn’t win games. If career as a whole – same as above, except add multiple off field incidents including one he was suspended for and didn’t even appeal. Then there was the “eating a W”… Read more »

Ron Potter

Arians is loyal and Winston needed that. It was on record that Koetter wanted a different QB. Try succeeding as a QB in the NFL with that knowledge, Buc fans. Your boss doesn’t prefer you. Godwin is exceeding expectations. Who expected him to be a top 5 NFL receiver this year? Amazing! We need to start giving a little more credit to who’s throwing the ball tho. Jensen is definitely playing better this year. Koetter provides the perfect environment for Jensen’s attitude after signing the big contract. But that’s not what the “Fire Licht” brigade wants to hear. To them… Read more »

BUC-ASS-BOB

Never mind he leads league in Intercepts again
He will blow at least 2 – 3 more games this year
Ask the question after his next clunker

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bucianco

I’ve been on both sides of the fence about Winston this year and years past. I’ve called for his job and I’ve defended his play within a new offensive system. There are several facts surrounding this whole “Franchise QB” scenario that we cannot forget: 1. Jimbo Fisher is considered to be one of the better coaches in the college ranks 2. Koetter is widely considered to be an offensive genius 3. Arians is considered a legendary mind in the coaching field If after 6 1/2 years of being coached by some of the best minds in football we are still… Read more »

KoalaNui

Nobody considers Koetter an “offensive genius”. No one. Put down the crack pipe.

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bucianco

I said widely considered. And no, my crack pipe stays where it is lol

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KoalaNui

And again, Nobody considers him that. At all. Never have, and never will. Let alone “widely”.

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CalBucsFan

In all walks of life, history counts for us all and it shouldn’t be any different for Jameis. He’s got 4+ years as an NFL QB that should not be ignored. With that said, thanks for the Farve comparison Scott, though it was a different era of football, the comparisons are eye opening. Given that I would want a young Favre as my QB any day of the year, it’s a no-brainer and cements my belief that Jameis should be resigned. Licht spent a lot of draft capital on DB’s last year and they are now cutting their teeth and… Read more »

matador

I’m surprised by author trying to constrain Winston’s faults to the INTs (“…other than the INTs it’s all good”). That’s a ridiculous statement. For starters you have to count the fumbles, but that would be an honest depiction of the TD/turnover ratio and like the orange man, SR likes to play games with facts to advance his interests. Then if you were being honest you’d have to talk about him locking onto a target instead of working through his progressions, the slow windup, the erratic ball placement that hampers YAC, the inability to hit the deep ball with any consistency… Read more »

Buc off

The only person the PR staff that bothers to use analytics is Trevor, not sure what the rest of them base their opinions on these days. That’s pretty sad as I use to respect Mark and SR, but lately they make retards seem knowledgeable.

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scubog

Off course how Jameis Winston finishes out 2019 will factor in more than how he performed in the past. Unless of course, the earlier showings are more in line with supporting that person’s agenda. Had Gay made the FG (Giants) and the referee not blown the whistle before the play was over (Titans), our team would be a respectable 5 dash 4 and most would be pleased that, in spite of the inopportune INT’s, the team still is competitive and “in the hunt”. No one likes the INT’s or the all too frequent fumbles by #3. But we should at… Read more »

76Buc

Scubog Namath doesn’t get tanked anymore. What your first sentence refers to is called recency bias, which will impact Arians more than Licht.

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martinii

Wouldn’t bother me if Bucs win out, don’t go to playoffs, and pick 15-18. This team needs wins, period. Have had too many loosing seasons. Like many perineal losers (Browns) multiple high picks doesn’t result in W’s. We have a good mix of veterans and youth, they need to play together under the same coaches for a few years. Add RB and OL and new GM. No I think Jameis should be evaluated based on his total career. Finally Godwin is a victim of too many top receivers in Nfl. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes yet. Please… Read more »

SenileSenior

I think the jury is in for most of us  after 5 and 1/2 seasons.  What you see is what get.  Winston is flawed and never will rise to elite status. Arians and staff have probably brought out the best he has to offer. He will always predictably be up and down in his performance. With that said he has shown improvement this year in some aspects of his game.  I think Arians will stick with him believing he can build around Jameis.  I believe BA trusts Bowles to succeed in elevating the defense to a top tier consistent performance that… Read more »

76Buc

Senile, the something extra was that Favre could hit the long ball.

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owlykat

The Bucs finally are strong enough to beat the Saints tomorrow if Jameis will continue staying focused and puts up over 30 points and JPP and Barret get to the Saints’ QB for a combined 3 sacks and Dean covers Thomas all game and Jones keeps running strong. That will be enough to prove the Bucs can go all the way the rest of the year. The Browns looked unbeatable in the Preseason but without their best DE the Bucs can beat them too! Raise the Flags; fire the canons, and Go Bucs!!! Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No… Read more »

fredster

Bucs should bear Saints. I want to see several this keep keep imoroving. Secondary, o line, and Winston. I don’t think Winston will ever be turnover free but with average defense and 1 or 2 max Int. per game it’s still gonna win most games with the positive stuff. Guess that’s why Bruce said he’s allowed 1 per game. Lol. I believe Arians when he says he doesn’t care much about last 4 years. You can also bet he’s gonna factor the shit O line play we had in several games panthers game in London won’t even factor he has… Read more »

fredster

Agree on spelling edit here be nice be able edit since it’s hard to type on stupid phones. Lol

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Armchairquarterback

I feel like it’s choice the way he wants to evaluate Jameis the way he wants to in the end I feel that his opinion is only going to matter somewhat from only coaching him for one year. That being said no quarterback is going to succeed behind this O-line they don’t care how bad they block. This draft they need to get the best LT available in the draft and move Donovan can’t block for s**t Smith to RT, it’s time to move on from Dotson he’s getting old and his performance is showing that. For Jensen I don’t… Read more »