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SR’s Fab 5 is a collection of inside scoop, analysis and insight from yours truly, PewterReport.com publisher and Bucs beat writer Scott Reynolds. Here are a few things that caught my attention this week at One Buc Place and around the NFL.

FAB 1. No Staff Changes In Tampa Bay Seems Crazy

The old saying goes that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different outcome.

If the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are intending on bringing the current coaching staff back for the 2018 season without any changes – which is what I’m hearing – I would suggest that there might be a good deal of insanity taking hold at One Buccaneer Place.

Former Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin once told me that you either get better or you get worse, but you never stay the same. Of course Kiffin didn’t coin that phrase, but it’s certainly true.

The Bucs didn’t get better in 2017. They got worse.

Somebody has to be held accountable, right?

Defensive coordinator Mike Smith?

Defensive line coach Jay Hayes?

Special teams coordinator Nate Kaczor?

Tampa Bay’s record got worse in 2017, going from 9-7 to 5-11.

The scoring offense got worse, going from 22.1 points per game to 20.9 points per game despite even more weapons at Jameis Winston’s disposal.

The scoring defense got worse, falling from 15th in 2016 to 22nd in 2017. Total defense fell from 23rd to dead last in 2017. It was a similar fall in passing defense from 22nd in 2016 to dead last in 2017. The Bucs finished dead last in sacks with just 22, and went from first in third down defense in 2016 to dead last in third down defense in 2017.

So bringing back the entire coaching staff, especially on the defensive side of the ball, is going to fix things in Tampa Bay, right?

If the organization isn’t going to make any changes to the coaching staff, what that does is directly implicates the players for the team’s shortcomings in 2017. It’s saying that better players are needed to win – not better coaching.

If that is the line of thinking at One Buccaneer Place, I beg to differ.

As I reported in last week’s SR’s Fab 5, if the Bucs weren’t going to be able to land former head coach Jon Gruden then Dirk Koetter was going to get another year. Six hours after I published my column, that’s exactly what happened at 3:00 p.m. on Friday.

Koetter gets one more year to get this team to the playoffs.

He enters 2018 already on the hot seat for a do-or-die season.

Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

That was the Glazers’ decision and I’m all on board with it since they couldn’t – or wouldn’t – outbid Oakland for Gruden. The players like Koetter and obviously played hard for him down the stretch.

The Bucs offense could move the ball at will for most of the season, it just bogged down in the red zone where better play-calling and better execution will be needed in 2018. Koetter’s offense had to settle for too many field goal attempts and with the erratic nature of former kicker Nick Folk in the first quarter of the season, there were too many points left on the field.

With the talent the Bucs have, Koetter’s scoring offense, which is ranked 18th with 20.9 points per game, needs to match its total offensive ranking, which is ninth overall, averaging 363.5 yards per game. There’s no reason why Tampa Bay can’t average at least 24 points per game next year. The Bucs should have done that this year.

The Bucs defense is a much different story. Take a look at the tale of the tape between the Mike Smith’s defense in 2016 compared to last year’s defense:

2017 Bucs Defensive Rankings
32nd in total defense (378.1 ypg)
32nd in passing defense (260.6 ypg)
23rd in run defense (117.5 ypg)
22nd in scoring defense (23.9 ppg)
32nd in third down defense (48 percent)
32nd in yards per play (6.0 avg.)
32nd in sacks (22)
15th in interceptions (13)
2nd in FF (18)
2nd in FR (13)

2016 Bucs Defensive Rankings
23rd in total defense (367.9 ypg)
22nd in passing defense (250.8 ypg)
22nd in run defense (117.2 ypg)
15th in scoring defense (23.1 ppg)
1st in third down defense (34 percent)
25th in yards per play (5.8 avg.)
9th in sacks (38)
4th in interceptions (17)
7th in forced fumbles (16)
6th in fumble recoveries (12)

Looking at the stats themselves (to the right, in parenthesis) rather than the rankings (to the left), the numbers are eerily similar except for the huge discrepancies in third down defense and sacks. Now there is a strong correlation between sacks and putting pressure on opposing quarterbacks and a defense’s success on third down. The more sacks and more pressure from a defense, usually the more successful third down numbers.

The Bucs’ pass rush regressed in 2017, and that was a big culprit in the team ranking last in total defense, pass defense, third down defense and sacks. But take a closer look at the 2016 rankings when the defense helped key a five-game winning streak that helped earn Smith a pay raise to keep him in Tampa Bay in 2017.

The total defensive ranking, as well as the rankings for run defense and pass defense were all in the bottom third of the league. Tampa Bay’s scoring defense in 2016 was middle of the pack.

I’m going to give credit to Steven Beck (@becksync78), who is one of our most intelligent @PewterReport followers on Twitter, for pointing out that last year’s five-game winning streak consisted of smoke and mirrors.

Chicago was a bad football team that got trounced, 36-10.

Bucs S Keith Tandy - Photo by: Getty Images

Bucs S Keith Tandy – Photo by: Getty Images

Kansas City was missing three defensive stalwarts for the Tampa Bay game in cornerback Marcus Peters and outside linebackers Justin Houston and Tamba Hali in a two-point Tampa Bay win.

Seattle was missing safety Earl Thomas, defensive end Michael Bennett and running back C.J. Prosise, while quarterback Russell Wilson was dealing with a knee injury in a five-point victory by the Bucs.

Reserve safety Keith Tandy came up with three fourth quarter, clutch interceptions against New Orleans, San Diego and Carolina to help Tampa Bay win those respective games by seven points, five points and one point.

Based on how Smith’s defense regressed in many areas last year, it leads me to believe that the 2016 defense just wasn’t as good as we thought it was.

And I’m afraid I don’t see it getting much better in 2018, even if the defense added a free agent pass rusher like Ziggy Ansah or a rookie defensive end, and upgraded the cornerback position by re-signing Brent Grimes and either drafting a cornerback in the early rounds or adding Malcolm Butler or Trumaine Johnson through free agency. Those players would help, but would they be enough to make Tampa Bay’s defense elite? I don’t think so. I’ve seen enough poor game plans from Smith and poor defensive line stunts directed by Hayes to think otherwise.

The fact that the Bucs have yet to make any coaching moves is an indication that Koetter apparently believes in his staff. That’s admirable. But loyalty and stubbornness make for deadly bedfellows in the NFL.

Earlier in the week I suggested that the Bucs consider looking at former Oakland and Jacksonville head coach Jack Del Rio, who was a defensive coordinator in Carolina (2002) and Denver (2012-14) and known for quick turnarounds. But it’s hard to attract good coaches for what could be just one year before the next regime change if Koetter doesn’t win 10 games and get the Bucs to the playoffs in 2018.

Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter and defensive coordinator Mike Smith - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter and defensive coordinator Mike Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

I don’t know if that’s the necessary mandate that the Glazers have given Koetter in order to make it to 2019, but it would certainly be mine if I owned the Bucs. Playoffs or bust in 2018.

Del Rio, who Koetter worked for in Jacksonville, wasn’t going to come to replace Smith. He could be seen as a threat to replace Koetter if the Bucs fell short of the playoffs, but the defense played well – the way Koetter ended up being the in-house replacement for Lovie Smith when the offense played well in a 6-10 season in 2015.

Koetter has seen that movie before. He played a leading role in it.

So after two-year hooks for Greg Schiano and Lovie Smith, the Glazers are going to try the continuity route with Koetter and his staff.

I happen to think that’s a little crazy.

I believe keeping the Bucs’ coaching staff intact for the 2018 season is a mistake.

I hope I’m wrong.

Without any changes I have a feeling like 2018 is going to be a wasted season in Tampa Bay and that there will be regime change this time next year.

Again, I hope I’m wrong.

For the record, I have absolutely nothing against Koetter. If you’ll recall, I campaigned for him to replace Lovie Smith as Tampa Bay’s head coach during the 2015 season, and applauded his hiring and his 9-7 season during 2016. Koetter has treated me fairly and that’s all I can ask of any head coach that I cover.

I’m sure he didn’t appreciate all of the Gruden articles I wrote, but I was just doing my job. PewterReport.com uncovered that there was legitimate interest in Gruden’s desire to return to coaching in 2018 in Tampa Bay, and there was legitimate interest from the Bucs hiring him as Koetter’s replacement.

Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter

Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter – Photo by: Getty Images

I was simply reporting what I knew to be true at the time – the Raiders just made a better offer for Gruden in the end. And given what’s been reported in terms of Gruden potentially getting $10 million per year and a potential ownership stake (which has been refuted by Gruden), I don’t blame the Glazers for passing on Gruden. That is a monumental investment.

My job as a Bucs beat writer is to take snapshots of what is going on with this football team and analyze them for our PewterReport.com readers and 620 WDAE listeners. Right now, the picture I’m analyzing is that of Koetter’s bad, underachieving, 5-11 football team, one that could be just as bad next year without a great draft and free agent haul – and an upgrade in the coaching department.

Based on what I’m hearing right now, I don’t see the latter happening. And I happen to find that a little crazy.

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About the Author: Scott Reynolds

Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: sr@pewterreport.com
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Pete Wood
3 years ago

I don’t think the Bucs five game win streak in 2016 was smoke and mirrors. A win is a win is a win. If the Bucs had beaten New England and the Packers this year, would that have been smoke and mirrors, because the Pats were in disarray and the Packers didn’t have their starting QB? Nope. We would have gladly taken those wins. We could have won both those games, but we choked. The 2016 Bucs didn’t choke. Give credit where credit is due. I hope we bring back Mike Smith. Firing him would be largely a symbolic move.… Read more »

ayron54
3 years ago

Feels like fab 2 is half full of low key apologizing and back peddling. Lol

I look forward to Friday mornings when these fab 5’s come out! Thanks SR, another great article.

Go Bucs!

ayron54
Reply to  ayron54
3 years ago

Fab 1… sorry. Forgot this one was a fab 6. Lol

Devasher
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
3 years ago

“I’m sure he didn’t appreciate all of the Gruden articles I wrote, but I was just doing my job. PewterReport.com uncovered that there was legitimate interest in Gruden’s desire to return to coaching in 2018 in Tampa Bay, and there was legitimate interest from the Bucs hiring him as Koetter’s replacement. I was simply reporting what I knew to be true at the time – the Raiders just made a better offer for Gruden in the end.” Above is your Fab 1, posted today 1/5/17, below, in your Fab 1 on 12/8/17 you profiled McDaniel’s and Patricia, whom were most… Read more »

Naplesfan
Reply to  Devasher
3 years ago

I’m pretty sure that Scott is not giving any endorsement whatsoever to the Glazers’ decision to retain the underperforming coaching staff and GM for yet another season of sustained mediocrity. It’s clear Scott doesn’t like it. Reporting what he does is what he does for a living. You and others may not like what he’s reporting, and as a result make attacks on Scott for reminding you of something you’d rather not be reminded of. In my humble opinion, Scott is just doing his job. If a majority of readers and commenters are glad that the Glazers made no changes,… Read more »

Devasher
Reply to  Naplesfan
3 years ago

You missed the point, which to your post is: If Scott has an opinion (which he clearly posited as noted above) it would not be very honest to say that he was “simply reporting what I knew at the time.” That simply is NOT true. Scott had an opinion, he posted it, I quote it, and despite his own written words which are easily accessible on this site he walked it back as though he had no opinion on the matter. Your response to my post is to say that he has an opinion. Great! No one is saying he… Read more »

TBAtlas
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
3 years ago

There’s a huge piece going on right now about the Kraft-Belichick-Brady trio by Seth Wickersham and how it might be falling apart and you know the difference between that piece and the past 3 months of Grumors on this site? It’s a sentence like this: “… according to interviews with more than a dozen New England staffers, executives, players and league sources with knowledge of the team’s inner workings, the three most powerful people in the franchise — Belichick, Brady and owner Robert Kraft — have had serious disagreements.” Now the story is most likely nonsense, but it at least… Read more »

Horse
Reply to  JustaBuc
3 years ago

Scott, I feel the same way as others. All you did was create fake news then blame it on something else that really wasn’t there. Fact checking is what it is about. Top it off you can’t even say you were incorrect; that was all I was asking for. So you can talk the talk, but can’t walk the walk.

Naplesfan
Reply to  Horse
3 years ago

There was nothing fake at all in what Scott reported. You just didn’t like the news, and so you want to shoot the messenger, Horse. I liked the message. I like what Scott wrote. But the Glazer babies have shown themselves to be serial incompetents and could not bring themselves to do what really needed doing – firing everybody and starting over. It is for that reason that I further suggest that in the spirit of “firing everybody”, the baby Glazers should have fired themselves by putting the team up for sale. And then I would pray that Jeff Vinik… Read more »

JP
JP
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
3 years ago

I think there’s a loyalty issue with Dirk and his defensive coaches. Reminiscent of Dungy and his offensive coaches back in the day, but Dungy had a ‘D’ that could single-handedly win games not so sure Dirk’s offense has that. Great article BTW.

tpeluso
3 years ago

Fab 2 makes me think one thing: How much would a trade-up to #3 to guarantee us Chubb cost?

Ugh… I am not a fan at all at spending our first-rounder on a guard.

tpeluso
Reply to  tpeluso
3 years ago

And that’s after reading Fab 3, for the record. Still think 7 is too high to be drafting a guard.

ahenneke
3 years ago

It seems like last year at this time, the Pewter Report articles were terrified that Mike Smith was going to get a head coaching job someplace, after doing such a great job with the defense. It is interesting how quickly we can change our opinions. It was also suggested that the 2016 five game winning streak was due the rash of injuries that our opponents had when they played the BUCS, yet when the BUCS have a ton of injuries, we suggest that is no excuse. My opinion is that the BUCS primary problem is that they don’t know how… Read more »

Horse
Reply to  ahenneke
3 years ago

We have a different market in the tampa Bay area. We’re getting younger, less intune to sports and any media from cable channels and we have plenty of other activities to enjoy such as the weather and water.

Pete Wood
Reply to  ahenneke
3 years ago

I love when we create categories that don’t really exist. Wins against injury depleted teams aren’t really wins. Balls tipped by receivers aren’t really interceptions. You don’t see the Pats giving up their home field advantage in the playoffs, because the Bucs win didn’t count since we didn’t have a good kicker and should have won the game. A win is a win is a win.

Devasher
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
3 years ago

*Except if it’s about Jason Licht.

Jason is entitled to have a worse winning percentage than Mark Dominik over his career, constructing 4 NFL rosters that win less than 35% of it’s games, but if DC Mike Smith who has a 14 year career in the NFL as a DC that lead Jax D to top 12 rankings in all 4 of his years there and a 59% winning percentage as HC has one very bad year without players who can rush the passer, he needs to go.

buddah
Reply to  ahenneke
3 years ago

So true. Last year, everyone was in love with Mike Smith and begging the Glazers not to let him get away. Fickle.

Naplesfan
Reply to  buddah
3 years ago

It’s not fickleness – it’s performance. Perform good, fans like coaches. Perform badly, fans dislike coaches.

Horse
3 years ago

Geez Scott; there’s 12 teams in the Playoffs, it’s a little early to say Bucs aren’t interested in any of those coaches for an up grade. Can you please stop with the Gruden crap; most of us could care less. You continually try to defend what you past posted than man up and just say hey I missed on this you. Instead you sound like someone else in a high position. Stop it please! As to drafting a OG over a DE’s and I meant DE’s, is how we got to this present situation by ignoring the need. The priority… Read more »

Horse
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
3 years ago

Scott, first try to trade down, then go for a CB/Safety as I believe that’s our still same need which is Defense. Can’t see a OG worth it when we have needs at defense. You and I didn’t put us in this present situation; Licht, Koetter, Smith did. If they want to stay employed past 2018, I hope they pay attention with the focus on Defense. Thank you for responding Scott. I do enjoy your Articles.

buddah
Reply to  Scott Reynolds
3 years ago

Totally agree. Stay with your draft board. When is the last time the Buccaneers had an all pro offensive lineman.

macabee
3 years ago

I am going to stake my reputation as past president of the Disgraced Armchair GMs of America that DE Bradley Chubb will be there at pick #7. Not to worry. Competition for Chubb has been the Colts at #3 from most of the mocks I’ve seen lately. Colts owner Jim Irsay has come out publicly stating that he wants another Edgerin James for QB Luck. RB Barkley answers that bell. Others before pick #7 want/need QB or OT. Chubb is a Buc if they want him! Go Bucs!

https://horseshoeheroes.com/2018/01/03/jim-irsay-wants-select-running-back-high-2018-nfl-draft/

e
e
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Gulp… You’ve got to be a brave GM to risk a top 10 Penn. St. RB pick!

TBAtlas
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

I got an even wilder prediction for you on top of that – Nelson isn’t getting past 3 in the draft. The biggest threat to draft Chubb atm is the Giants with Big Man Gettleman. He could also go for G Nelson, as the GIants OLine is trash or even Barkley, as they really could use one. Might even go QB! Giants are the wild one in the mocks so far. I trust Gettleman is going to stay true to his fat-people-matter ways and go for OLine though. But you better bet your damn farm that whoever coaches the Colts… Read more »

macabee
Reply to  JustaBuc
3 years ago

Obviously, my first choice is Chubb, but I will not be upset if instead the Bucs took either OG Nelson, CB/FS Fitzpatrick, or traded down for extra picks and took DE Marcus Davenport/UTSA 6-6 255 4.77. Draft is loaded with D-Line talent.

TBAtlas
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Agreed, fine with all of those guys. I have some concerns health wise on Fitzpatrick but yeah, those would be fine. I like DT Vea as well.

cgmaster27
Reply to  JustaBuc
3 years ago

Yeah I agree with you about the Colts. Every has Chubb mocked to them, but how in the world can they ignore offensive line again with Andrew Luck and that shoulder?

mjmoody
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

What is it that I don’t know about Arden Key? LSU keeps putting great players in the league & the Bucs’ seem to do especially well w/ them. Maybe I haven’t seen enough of Chubb? He’s a shorter, stouter, bull rusher that’s great in college, but doesn’t always translate to the NFL. IMHO. I’m just asking here, I know that I don’t know.

macabee
Reply to  mjmoody
3 years ago

Key is a great player but has been inconsistent. Some people think he’s a head case because he left the team unexpectedly with no explanation. I think he’s okay but he’s going to face interviews at the combine that will determine his draft status.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/lsu-football/not-crazy-suggest-arden-key-doesnt-return-lsu-prepares-2018-nfl-draft/

mjmoody
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Great Link, thanks. Reinforces what I’ve read thus far. Very physically talented, very raw draft. That beautiful & terrible NFL word; potential, Your pick is as good as your coaching. Brings it back around doesn’t it?

Naplesfan
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Nobody knows how any draft will proceed an hour before the opening bell, let alone months beforehand. Team needs evolve, new coaches and GMs come on board, players impress or don’t impress in the college allstar games and draft combine and individual workouts, stuff comes to light (bad behavior) and suddenly a player’s stock plummets. In an NFL where quarterback play is so important that teams will literally do anything to improve at that position, suddenly QB talents start shooting up draft boards. Licht is a decent draft picker – that’s about the only thing he’s reasonably (but not especially)… Read more »

e
e
3 years ago

Don’t sleep on Ohio St. C – Billy Price. He will end up moving up into the middle of the first round. I wonder how much better the line would be with Marpet back at guard and Price at center? I’ll say this in defense of the Glazers (here comes the down thumbs!) They’ve tried the coaching roulette for a decade. Now, they are giving continuity a shot. I like it. I’m thinking that a team with not a whole lot of second contracts is trying to compete in a division with three Superbowl experienced and franchise QBs is going… Read more »

revfish
3 years ago

Two things: first, I appreciated the last Gruden article here even as I’m glad that sage is over with. Given y’alls coverage of it, if you don’t address it, you open yourself up to criticism and questions, but now when you defend yourself, people want to cry “sour grapes on you.” Your job is to report what is going on and to keep us in the know, and you did. I was one who talked with Mark about did it undercut Koetter’s standing out of honest concerns, but he was forthright with me and I was very pleased and respected… Read more »

Alldaway 2.0
3 years ago

I will be a contrarian and say that the Bucs problem since 2007 has been a lack of talent in the trenches and not coaching. Gruden took a talent depleted team as far as he could. But we all agreed that in that playoff game against the Giants the Bucs did not have the horses in the trenches. What have the Bucs done since a decade ago to address the trenches? They have drafted trench players but not enough have lasted their duration for Tampa Bay. It is hard to have a winning team and a playoff team without trench… Read more »

rob roy
Reply to  Alldaway 2.0
3 years ago

I agree that not re-signing Akeem Spence and replacing him with Chris Baker was a mistake and in addition, not re-signing Alterraun Verner, had a negative effect on the defense in 2017. Verner is a former All-Pro who was signed to replace Darrelle Revis. He is also one of the best tackling CB’s in the league. His absence in the slot was sorely missed. Verner ended up signing with Miami for just $980,000. I disagree with drafting a guard with the first pick in the draft because of needs at DE, CB, DT and RB. There are two “special” players… Read more »

BucFan circa76
3 years ago

SMOKE AND MIRRORS? Really?? You could argue the same for all of our close, last minute losses this season despite Jameis playing injured for 4-6 games (at least), missed field goals early on and then later on (a missed extra point almost cost us the Saints game recently). I know your panties are in a bunch because the Bucs couldn’t (or didn’t) bring Gruden back and make you a soothsayer, but hey its obvious the Glazers were feeling like Santa Claus lately by giving Koetter another season to make It right – this time without HBO/Hard Knocks and WITH some… Read more »

scubog
Reply to  BucFan circa76
3 years ago

Totally agree circa 76. Having been a subscriber even before Buccaneer Magazine with the old It’s Sports magazine; you just don’t put an asterisk on a win or a loss. It is what it is. Now Scott is reversing course with his assessment of the 2016 Defense. Apparently the evaluation was faulty. It sure misled a lot of folks into believing the players had learned the scheme and were ready to thrive in it in 2017 with Mike Smith at the helm. The stance is now that Mike Smith, once thought to be the guru and Jay Hayes, are the… Read more »

Alldaway 2.0
3 years ago

Fix the trenches. Draft and sign some young guys at DE, DT, OT and OG. This isn’t rocket science. This is why the OL looks better than the DL (eg Marpet, Smith). Ayers – 32, turns 33 in Sept McCoy – 29, turns 30 next month Baker – 30, turns 31 i Oct Gholston – 26, turns 27 in July Clarke – 26, turns 27 in May McDonald -31, turns 32 tomorrow Siliga -28 , turns 29 in April Russell – 25, turns 26 later this month Ward – 25, turns 26 in Sept O-Connor -24, turns 25 in Nov… Read more »

GoldsonAges
3 years ago

Insanity is firing your coaches every two years. I only got through 1/2 of Fab1. I’m looking forward to the offseason and less terrible articles. It’s time for PR to get over Gruden and get on with the program

Devasher
Reply to  GoldsonAges
3 years ago

I find it interesting that a guy in Mike Smith, a well-respected coach with 14 largely successful years of coordinating/coaching is apparently the root cause of all that ails the Bucs. Yet, this is roughly the same record the Bucs have had on average over the past 9 years (31% winning this year 35% over 9 years). Remember when it was all Lovie’s fault? What about when Schiano was to blame for everything? Or when Raheem Morris let the players run amok. Seems like the deck chairs keep changing but the Titanic keeps sinking. Name me one edge rusher with… Read more »

Ja'crispy
3 years ago

If Chubb, Nelson, or Barkley are gone I wouldn’t mind trading back with Arizona to the 15th pick. We would most likely get their 2nd round pick. So we have #15, #38 and #47 overall draft pick.

I also didn’t know anything about Quenton Nelson and would have never thought of drafting a guard in the first round. After watching that video, assuming Chubb if off the board, I wouldn’t be mad at all. That dude as pancaking those d-linemen.

Ken Grant
Reply to  Ja'crispy
3 years ago

And the ones that don’t get pancaked are showing him their back as they try to disengage. They are quitting on the play. That’s what you ideally want. To demoralize the other guy. Make him give up.

SCLOBERNOCKER
3 years ago

I’ve been saying for a while that if Chubb is gone, we need to go Nelson at 7. He’s BOA at that point and dude is a freak.

Rut
Rut
3 years ago

The Cardinals need a QB bad, they just lost their head coach, QB, and probably their best wide receiver. They’re going to be rebuilding big time in Arizona. Jason Licht has ties to that organization. My guess? The Cards move up to our spot and we get an extra 2nd and 3rd round pick out of it. This draft is pretty deep, I think that’d be our best move. We don’t just need starter spots filled, we need depth. Gotta load up on players and make the best fight for it. That’s what I’d do if I was Licht.

surferdudes
3 years ago

I’m O.K. with drafting a guard with pro bowl ability. Anything along the line on either side of the ball is sorely needed. Not surprised no coaching changes could occur. Not surprised no other team values any of our assistants. Koetter has a bad coaching dynamic within his staff. Neither coordinator has a chance at a head coaching gig with someone else. Smith viewed as to old, and our defense sucks, Monkin because he doesn’t call plays. Great coaches leave a coaching tree when they’re done. Holmgrum, Reed, Gruden, Mooch, who’s the up, and coming coach on our staff?

Amo
Amo
3 years ago

We are not smart enough to take Nelson.

martinii
3 years ago

One of my 11 New Years Eve resolutions is to put the 2017 Buc’s season behind me. All the Gruden rumors, all the excuses, all the close loses, all the injuries, all the Fake News is history today. Nothing I or we can do about it so might as well sweep it under the rug. 2018 is a fresh new year, full of challenges, hope, and excitement. It is what it is and hopefully I will still be celebrating well into 2019. I am not a football expert and 95% of what I post is opinion. I spent 40 years… Read more »

macabee
Reply to  martinii
3 years ago

You and me Martinii. I make out over Chubb because the Bucs pass rush was so bad last year. I have no idea how he would transition to the NFL. Myles Garrett, last years draft phenom was okay, but did not have the season he was expected to have due to injury. And we all remember Jadeveon Clowney/Texans – just now starting to play as advertised. It’s a crapshoot! I will be happy to have any player that contributes, I’m not hung up on perceived stars. But we are entering the silly season and me like most fans get hyped… Read more »

martinii
Reply to  macabee
3 years ago

Thanks Mac, just kidding about the shoe salesman, but your research shows how hard it is to predict how these players are going to turn out. I think often times it’s the team the wind up on.

Rich
Reply to  martinii
3 years ago

Barkley is good, but I don’t believe any running back can succeed with the current offensive (sic) line. Buc’s need to upgrade the offensive line both for the running backs and the QB

stlbucsfan
3 years ago

I see GMC has reached out on Twitter to Michael Bennett welcoming him back once the Seahawks release him. Another interesting story line is the potential release of Aquib Talib from Denver. Both players I never thought should have ever left are now potentially available and at positions of need. Target these types of FAs as they should come motivated to win in a place where they didn’t get it done before. They both have an edge this defense and coupled with the right edge rusher could turn this into a top 15 defense with of course a solid running… Read more »

Horse
Reply to  stlbucsfan
3 years ago

Both those guys would destroy the team unity.

Horse
Reply to  stlbucsfan
3 years ago

Bennett hardly has any gas in his tank; if Seattle is releasing him isn’t that enough to tell us we need to stay away from him? It’s been over 5 years since been it’s been here and he’s a lot older.

Rich
3 years ago

Everyone talks about firing Smith what about the pathetic offensive line coach. Also as I look at the draft I believe we have more urgent needs than draft picks on the first two days of the draft. I don’t care who is available, Bucs need to trade down and set themselves up so they have between 5-7 picks those first two days. We have already proven one player cannot turn the franchise around, there are to many holes in the roster (2-DE, CB, OT, C/G, DT,S,RB)

Buc71
3 years ago

How about player performance? It’s NOT coaching. Mike Smith was Great in Atlanta. His coaching works. This is a player issue. Get better players, players need to execute what the coaches call. Run the plays properly. Make tackles, blocks, passes, runs, catches, etc… This 5-11 season is squarely on the players. Not coaches fault. Fundamental football. Get it done. Changing coaches every couple of years DOES NOT WORK.

Charlie C
3 years ago

Our Bucs have done one thing consistently the last ten years: lose. Stop the coaching carousel. Glad to see Koetter get more time. Now let’s make some smart drafting moves ( heavy on the defense ), get working on the Jackson/Winston chemistry, and look ahead to finding an identity on defense. Our linebackers our probably the best unit in football. Help them by getting McCoy some help and many of this year’s close losses become next years wins.

Bucs die hard
3 years ago

Hey scott can anybody tell me why no one is talking about this front office personnel/scouting department???? i mean wtf…… I feel like thats the real problem…..dey need to be checked asap….who are they???? They need to be put on blast on your next fab5

GoldsonAges
3 years ago

The only offensive lineman I’ve seen who should be in the conversation with pick No.7 is Connor Williams LT Texas. Quentin Nelson is a mauler guard who cant pull or reach 2nd level blocks with any consistency. A one dimensional guard would be a disaster pick that early.

Horse
Reply to  GoldsonAges
3 years ago

Way too many people already picking players to be top notch NFL performers for our team. I have no clue who will really be better than what we have already. Lets wait until the Senior Bowl and the East-West games are played where the college players are invited to show us what they really can do.

Horse
3 years ago

One thing I do know because I have seen enough to tell me we are in dire need of pass rushers.

fl0nase
3 years ago

I have to admit, I really do not understand the anger towards SR related to the Gruden reporting. Gruden WAS interested in getting back into coaching. It’s just dumb to think that he didn’t talk to the Glazers and also dumb to think he would ONLY talk to the Glazers. 10 million a year for 10 years is a CRAZY deal and whatever else happened that’s why he’s the Raiders coach. The biggest disappointment is all the copy wasted talking about Gruden now that we know he’s coaching in Vegas baby. Maybe that’s what’s got everyone so worked up. As… Read more »

scubog
3 years ago

I for one don’t for a second think the coaching staff is set for 2018 just yet. Did we not pay attention when Koetter noted that everything and everyone will be evaluated? It’s been only six days since our final game of the 2017 season. Is it not reasonable to think those reviews are now taking place? Is it not possible that Koetter and Licht are waiting to see who might become available to upgrade the staff? As I recall the upcoming Senior Bowl is a huge job fair. Sit tight fellow Bucs fans. What’s “insane” is to think the… Read more »

Pete Wood
3 years ago

The Raiders actually agreed to Gruden’s demands. I see no way he lives up to expectations. Al Davis must be spinning in his grave.
Wouldn’t it be poetic justice if Del Rio came to the Bucs now? I want Smith to stay, but would enjoy that working out for Bucs and messing with Raiders at the same time if it has to happen.

BrianDorry55
3 years ago

The assistant coach who absolutely needs to go is George Warhop. That guy has one good line in 2015 and they have absolutely SUCKED every other year. I assume 2015 was an aberration because he didn’t have enough time to coach the talent out of Marpet and Smith. Get him the hell outta here.

Wadeless
3 years ago

I think the person that needs to go more than the coaches (I would have supported a Smith firing but understand keeping Koetter for another year) is the GM Licht. Talk about a track record. He has so many misses with high picks such as: 1. Roberto after trading UP for heaven’s sake, 2. Donovan Smith makes me pine for Kenyetta Walker, 3. Seferian-Jenkins was such a cancer I’m not sure how you couldn’t have scouted that, 4. wasting a 3R pick on the seldom used Sims, 5. the jury being very much out on injury prone Spence and Hargreaves)… Read more »

Wadeless
Reply to  Wadeless
3 years ago

And his lower round picks (R4-R7) have been pretty abysmal too: 2014–He went 0-3 w Herron, Pamphile and Edwards 2015–He went 1-4 w Alexender being the lone hit with misses Bell, Clay and Iosefa 2016–A bit too early to tell completely but the names Ryan Smith, Benenoch, and Bond don’t make me think All-Pro let alone good NFL starter. We know Vitale is a miss already from this group. 2017–Tu’ikolovatu and McNichols; the latter whom will never play a game with the Bucs. The more you look at this the worse it gets. Outside of Howard, Alexander and Beckwith, I… Read more »

TBAtlas
Reply to  Wadeless
3 years ago

It just got comical when it sounds like you are seriously expecting consistent All-Pro/starter hits from Rounds 4-7. The Aguayo pick totally sucked, and while ASJ had the talent it didn’t pan out for us. The rest are still early or debatable.

Wadeless
Reply to  JustaBuc
3 years ago

I never said that I was seriously expecting consistent All-Pro/starter from rounds 4-7. From my count Licht hit on potentially 1 of 13 picks in those rounds. Outside of Kwon, who on that list are you ready to anoint as a good pick? You sound like an apologist for Licht’s picks.

Wadeless
Reply to  JustaBuc
3 years ago

The “rest are debatable”. Really??…I beg to differ. These picks are not debatable: 1. Donovan Smith sucks…just ask Winston’s sore shoulder. 2. Sims had 150 touches in 2015 and since then he had 75 touches two years ago and 56 touches last year…if that’s the type of production you want from a 3R pick I think your expectations are too low JustABuc 3. I said the jury is out on Spence and Hargreaves but you have to agree that if they don’t have outstanding third years, then they too are busts. I think they are leaning closer to bust then… Read more »