Bucs WR Mike Evans - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs fans and SR’s Fab 5 readers expressed their admiration for Bucs wide receiver Mike Evans, who is off to a hot start in the 2016 season, and their disdain for NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. What does PewterReport.com publisher and Bucs beat writer Scott Reynolds have to say? Find out right here.
Welcome to another installment of SR’s Fab 5 Reaction where each week I take the time to answer your questions and respond to your comments from the previous week’s SR’s Fab 5 column. Due to time constraints from my responsibilities as publisher, I am unable to respond to every reader comment each week, but I do read every one of them.
Comments have only been edited for clarity and grammar. Now on to your comments.
Topics in last week’s SR’s Fab 5 include: Evans Will Be Bucs’ Greatest Receiver; Bucs Will Draft Jackson’s Replacement In 2017; These Bucs Are Road Warriors; College Football Is Better Than The NFL
Nice Fab 5, Scott. It’s kind of amazing to think that Mark Carrier and Kevin House are still the Bucs’ all-time receivers. I wonder how they stack up against all-time receivers from the other 31 teams? Sadly, I bet they are near the bottom of that list; showing the futility of the franchise over the decades.
I appreciate Mike Evan’s drive to be All-Pro. I would take him any day over Odell Beckham, Jr. The Bucs couldn’t afford to replace all of those kicker nets, anyways.
The ratings decline is an interesting one, and the Colin Kaepernick issue wouldn’t stop me from watching football. But I think about how I really enjoyed watching the NBA back in the Lakers and Celtics era, and the Pistons era, then the Bulls, but after that … something changed. Teams just became mercenary squads, going to the highest bidders. Owners were buying championships.
The NBA went from the feeling of being an institution to the feeling of just being a business, and I’ve lost interest. I was a Heat fan from the beginning in 1988 with Rony Seikely and Sherman Douglas and really loved watching that team grow up together. Then Pat Riley came in, traded everyone away and bought stars and eventually won championships, but I never had as much joy for that team – even though the LeBron James years, as when the finally made it to the playoffs for the first time against Atlanta and they lost in the first round.
Same thing with the Bucs – Tony Dungy (and Sam Wyche) built this great foundation that every Bucs fan endeared themselves to with Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks, John Lynch, Warrick Dunn, Mike Alstott, etc. and starting that ascent. The Super Bowl was great, but the NFC Championship Game in Philly was my peak moment as a long-time Bucs fan.
After Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen started really turning over rosters year after year, it took something away from my enthusiasm for the team. I think that this has happened league-wide and I think it is starting to chip away at general feeling that the NFL used to be an institution, has become more of a product. – e
It is crazy to think that not only have the Bucs’ receiving records stood for nearly three decades, but also that James Wilder’s all-time franchise rushing record of 5,957 yards on 1,575 yards from 1981-89 also stands to this day. Tampa Bay has invested some high draft picks in receivers over the years – a first-round pick in 1997 in Reidel Anthony, a second-round pick in 1998 in Jacquez Green and a first-round pick in Michael Clayton in 2004 – but none came close to living up to their draft billing.
Mike Evans is the real deal, though. With two more touchdowns against San Francisco, he’s on pace to catch 16 touchdowns this season, which would break his franchise record of 12 set in 2014.
I too was an NBA fan. I loved the Lakers back when it was team ball. There were star players like Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, James Worthy and my favorite, Magic Johnson, but the role players were just as interesting. Guys like Kurt Ramis, Mychal Thompson, Byron Scott and Michael Cooper made the Lakers more than just Magic and Kareem. The same could be said of the Celtics, Pistons and Bulls teams you referenced.
But then the NBA did go the mercenary route you described and I too lost interest. It became more about Kobe Bryant rather than the Lakers and more about Kevin Garnett than the Timberwolves. The emphasis on the team was gone and players began to switch teams so fast through trades and free agency that my head began to spin. I watch very little NBA these days as a result – and only in the playoffs. I haven’t watched a regular season NBA game in well over a decade.
You do have a point with Jon Gruden and Bruce Allen hitting free agency too hard and not drafting well. Players like Jeff Garcia were viewed for what they were – a hired gun for a season or two. It’s hard to build fan loyalty that way.
I think Jason Licht has done a much better job, and re-signing homegrown talent like Gerald McCoy, Lavonte David and Doug Martin, and drafting star players like Jameis Winston, Kwon Alexander and Evans also helps create fan favorites like the Bucs had back in the late 1990s. The good ol’ days are coming back. – SR
Enjoyed the Fab 5, Scott, as always. Very interested in improving the receiver corps like so many fans. We need a guy with good hands and game breaking speed, obviously.
I keep thinking if only Joey Galloway and Mike Evens played in the same era. One can dream. Hate to be talking the April draft so soon but will be looking forward to much more of it come February. – Garv
Thank you, Garv. I try not to delve too much into draft discussion during football season, especially when anything can happen for Tampa Bay at 3-3. But many folks like myself watch both NFL and college football, and with wide receiver being a serious position of need, I thought it might be helpful to throw out some names to know for those interested in checking out some draft prospects in real time as the college football season begins to wind down. – SR
Jameis Winston throws a lot of jump balls, so I’m more concerned with body control, hands and ability to make people miss than I am with raw speed out of our receivers. To that end, Josh Reynolds, Cooper Kupp and Corey Davis looked the best to me.
However, given that Reynolds will likely go in the first round, I need to see how he does against Alabama this weekend before I’m confident saying he’s worth that high of a pick on a team with this many defensive holes. – LordJim
I like all of the names you mentioned, LordJim. Texas A&M’s Josh Reynolds was held to two catches for 27 yards by Alabama, but did score a touchdown. Keep in mind that the Aggies only threw for 164 yards against the Crimson Tide’s stingy defense.
I don’t think Reynolds – despite having an awesome last name – is a first-rounder, but he would certainly help Tampa Bay’s receiving corps. I know Mike Evans, a fellow Aggie, would love to see him drafted by the Bucs. – SR
Roger Goodell is definitely overdoing his job, and the rule changes are ruining the game. People watched football for the big hits and the entertainment, and he is changing both – limiting the celebration and completely taking away the big hits.
The concussion issue brought some changes to light but I think he went overboard with the changing of the rules. Penalizing defenders for hitting players in the helmet that curl up is stupid and I think the casual fan is started to leave as a result.
Then you factor in a lot of people watch for the TD celebrations but that’s so monitored and restricted these days that even that aspect has changed. It’s just one pointless rule after another and now the product is starting to suffer.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and Bucs DT Gerald McCoy – Photo by: Getty Images
Lastly I don’t think people like Goodell because he doesn’t appear to be fair in how the rules or policies are enforced. In one breath he speaks about protecting the players, and QBs in particular, but then you watch clips of Cam Newton getting rocked in the head with no call.
He talks about the whole domestic violence thing and how serious that is, which it is, but you can’t rule with an iron fist like he did with Ray Rice but then turn a blind eye to the Josh Browns of the world, who admitted in court that he had struck his wife. This combination is what is ruining the NFL.
Goodell needs to watch the college game, see how they let the players play and realize it is football at the end of the day. Increase the padding and stress the importance of proper tackling, but this watered down flag football that some football games turn into is the main reason most people are choosing to watch other things. – stlbucsfan
You bring up some great points, stlbucsfan. I agree with all of them, which is why I picked your post for this week’s edition of SR’s Fab 5 Reaction. I remember when big hits were glorified by the NFL, and that was part of the attraction of the game. Mankind has always adored brutality in sport, from the days of ancient battle in the Coliseum in Rome, to boxing to MMA fighting. Watering the game down to flag football is not going to fly, as you suggest.
I’m not looking for players to get injured, but NFL players do know the risks associated with the sport and are paid handsomely to play a kids game. I remember writing about how John Lynch knocked out his brother-in-law, Bears tight end John Allred, and finding some charm and and even ironic humor in that play back in the 1990s. Lynch, one of the greatest Bucs heroes, would be a penalized villain in the modern day NFL, and that’s a damn shame. – SR
Excellent Fab 5 for a bye week! Thanks for writing Fab 4 without taking a personal stance on the controversial Colin Kapernick anthem-kneeling. It’s eloquent journalism for you to do so without demeaning the man with irresponsible nicknames or statements of false pretense, even after previously sharing your negative opinion of his dissent. Kudos for understanding that this kind of sensational trash talk is only divisive to your loyal fans and only cheapens the quality product you offer to Bucs fans from all walks of life. – BKNYfootballhead
An irresponsible nickname such as Captain Kneeldown? I would never do such a thing. I’ll let my journalistic integrity trump my personal opinions on this one. Thank you for the kind words, BKNYfootballhead. I do appreciate them. – SR
Bucs WR Mike Evans – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
I found it interesting that Aqib Talib said: “With receivers, there are some guys where you either have this huge catch radius or you don’t. There’s nothing you can learn in the NFL. If you go watch (Mike) Evans’ tape from seventh or eighth grade, I bet he’s doing the same thing, catching jump balls, running past people, catching deep balls. It’s just that catch radius that makes him special.”
After reading that he didn’t play football until his senior year of high school, imagine how great he would be if he had started earlier. Also ironic that at the beginning of the year everyone was saying how great Jameis would have it with three receivers (counting tight end Austin Seferian-Jenkins) that were 6-foot-5 or taller. Unfortunately, it is now down to one. – Randy H.
Great point, Randy H. Mike Evans only played three years of football – one year in high school and two years at Texas A&M – before coming to Tampa Bay. Now he’s in his third NFL season. I think Evans is just scratching the surface of how good he can become. The kid just turned 23 in August, too.
Alas, Vincent Jackson’s season-ending knee injury and Austin Seferian-Jenkins’ dismissal have broken up the Dunkaneers. It’s time for Jason Licht to find another big wide receiver to pair with Evans.
Although there are some rumors about the Bucs possibly trading for Torrey Smith (6-0, 205) or Chicago receiver Alshon Jeffery (6-3, 218), don’t buy it. Smith’s price tag doesn’t match his production, and Jeffery is slated to be a free agent after signing the franchise tag this year. If the Bucs are going to invest heavily at the receiver position, it will be re-signing Evans to a lucrative contract extension within the next year. Look for Tampa Bay to draft a receiver – perhaps one that I featured in last week’s SR’s Fab 5 – in 2017. – SR
Scott Reynolds is in his 23rd year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds enjoys giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: email@example.com
Scott you and stlbucsfan are right on. I have been thinking about this for a while now. Football is a violent game and that is part of the attraction. I don’t like seeing players injured and believe in improving the technology of the equipment such as space age helmets. However, PC has even taken over this great game. I believe Goodell has an agenda to feminize the game so females can play it. I have nothing but females in my family and I love them all. I believe strongly in gender equality, but don’t want to see them play football. Within 3 – 5 years (no joking here) he will rule that the QB cannot be touched at all and the white flag tucked into his pants has to be grabbed and thrown to the turf to signify a sack.
I spent the first 60 years of my life as a player and then a major fan of football. I no longer watch it because it bores me for reasons you outlined above. I still watch the Bulls (alma mater) and Gators because college football has not been politicized as much and still is a sport. The only pro games that interest me are Buc’s games and I have learned to only watch them if they won. Goodell has ruined the game for me.
“I’m not looking for players to get injured, but NFL players do know the risks associated with the sport and are paid handsomely to play a kids game.”
Scott, I teach business in college and what you are talking about here is what we call a risk premium. That is why window washers make more money than other semi-skilled workers. These players , in just a few short years will make 10-25 times more money than even the best paid managers will ever make in their lifetimes. They make that money because they willing accept the risk associated with the sport.
“Mankind has always adored brutality in sport, from the days of ancient battle in the Coliseum in Rome, to boxing to MMA fighting.”
Yes, and that’s why we watch it among other reasons.
That’s also why Jerry Springer is so popular.
scubog, I watched Springer’s show once for about two minutes and was nauseated. There’s a difference between a sports purist and ridiculous trash. Still, your point is well taken.lol
For me, it was the league’s refusal to strip the Patriots of their titles and flagrant calls for higher-revenue teams like the Steelers that made me realize this wasn’t the game I loved playing with my friends. It was a business and an oligarchy that knows everyone makes more money when certain teams win. Goodell is just the messenger. When Gruden was fired something broke in me, and I haven’t spent a dime on the NFL since. Do I watch games with some interest? Yes, but I used to live and die on what the Bucs did on Sundays. Now I just don’t feel that emotional connection to the sport or even the Bucs anymore.
Goodell is a clown. He’s been terrible. They are runining NFL with stupid rules. He has no consistency either.
I agree also whatever can do to limit injuries with technology is fine but there is no proof any of the stupid new rules have cut down one bit on concussions. You don’t want a concussion then don’t play. Other than that it’s going to happen.
Goodell is the worst commissioner of all time and that is saying something considering bud selig was awful for mlb. If you hit someone legal but hard,you can look for a flag to be thrown.I can not wait until this guy gets the hell out of the nfl, but I think he would make a hell of a commissioner for tennis.the guy is just a idiot,one can not deny this!
Yes, fredster! What if we imposed rules boxing to vastly reduce concussions? What if we put WWF competitors in body armor?
Good stuff Scott.
It’s no secret that fans hate Goodell. Being the mouth piece of the owners and in general not recognizing the fan base might be the downfall of the NFL. It seems that he is taking some elements from the professional wrestling. No other sport has there players coming into the playing field through a smoke tunnel. Don’t know about Basketball, don’t watch it. Some people watch the Super Bowl just to see the commercials. Over blown bad halftime shows and over extended TV time outs so we can watch more TV commercials.
I have always been a fan of NHL. But football was what I waited for every Sunday. Hockey seems to be sticking with their sport and not trying to modify their product to make more and more money. I mean how much money can these guy amass and spend.
I still watch the BUCS , but have little interest in other teams.
I pretty much quit watch ESPN or any other mainstream coverage of football also.
Who cares about Dallas, Patriots, Eagles, Redskins or any of the 8 or 9 teams they feature. Their fans for sure, but coverage of other teams are rare.
Money rules everything in todays world.
GO BUCS STILL LOVE YOU IN SPITE OF GOODELL
I must admit that for some reason as I’ve grown older the NFL has become less important to me. It used to be that when the Bucs lost (which was quite frequently) I was miserable until Wednesdays. Now, when they lose, I’m over it by Monday afternoon. My Monday’s usually started off with “What happened to your Bucs?” Now, apathy has returned and grown with each disappointing season since Gruden and Kiffin left.
I think a lot of it is the over-saturation of NFL related news and information. We are inundated with it round the clock. It used to be we’d try to find any little tidbit of news that we might share with fellow fans. I’d listen to Mark Champion on the radio and seek out any other available source that would increase my knowledge of what was going on behind the scenes.
Used to be three games on Sunday and one on Monday night. Now we have another game on Sunday night, Thursday night and sometimes two on Monday. I like a good Shorty’s hot dog and gravy fries and look forward to our trips back to southwestern Pa. to enjoy it, but eating it every week would make it less satisfying.
I’m over hearing about the Patriots, Broncos and Cowboys constantly. I’m tired of seeing Jerry Jones, Odell Beckham Jr. and Tom Brady . I’m no longer amused by the silly antics displayed on the pre-game shows. Give me Trent Dilfer and Chris Collinsworth and their intellectual insight.
I don’t know if Goodell is to blame or if the league in general just thinks it is reacting to consumer demand. Since Goodell attended Washington-Jefferson College in my hometown, he no doubt experienced a Shorty’s hot dog and gravy fries too. So maybe he’s not all bad.
I don’t like Roger Goodell, either. In fact, I would not have found Pewter Report in the first place if someone on another Bucs blog hadn’t chewed me out for criticizing Goodell too often. However, my reasons for disliking Goodell are very different from stlbucsfan’s. Goodell cares far too much about the image of the game in the form of public relations. He’s terrified that a player will be accused of doing something– whether he did it or not– and therefore punishes players, for example, for being arrested. That’s a terrible way of trashing our justice system’s presumption of innocence. He also overreacts to actual wrongdoing in a way that is proportionate to how much publicity a particular incident is getting on gossip TV. The Ray Rice and Adrian Peterson, not to mention Tom Brady, stand out as examples. None of them should have received the severe punishments he handed down, and Goodell wouldn’t have handed them down if he wasn’t afraid of looking weak.
Anyone who is afraid of looking weak is in the bad habit of paying too much attention to their fears. In other words, I think he’s a coward. A coward who’s been given entirely too much power to act as judge, jury, and appellate judge. There are no checks and balances on his power except for the NFLPA and the actual court system. That means challenging him is too costly. The NFLPA isn’t going to have a strike to save any individual player. Individual players have to fork out bazillions to lawyers to sue.
However, I think he’s right in trying to do as much as possible to reduce the impact of brain injuries in the game. If you disagree, you should watch the film Concussion, which is based on the pathologist who discovered the CTE phenomena. The film also paints Goodell in a bad light as someone who was only trying, at least initially, to pay lip service to the pathologist’s findings. These brain injuries are frequent (perhaps 28% of all NFL players), severe (causing constant pain, memory loss, delusions, paranoia, and loss of self control).
If anything, we now know that boxing is definitely a sport that destroys the human brain, and football destroys a good portion of them. I’m not sure either sport is sustainable, given the seriousness of the damage. The current round of rule changes are much like adding filters to cigarettes, or getting people to cut down on their chain smoking. We’re going to have to decide if we like football players or whether we just like football. No amount of money or fame can compensate you for severe brain injuries that lead to suicide. The game’s going to have to change in much bigger ways in order to endure.
First, it is fans like me who are doing the most complaining about the Thursday night games. I haven’t heard an excessive amount of complaints over time from Buccaneer, Falcons or other NFL players. I think it would be appropriate if coaches and Gms complained more about them during the off seasons.
I would eliminate the “traditional” games on Thanksgiving as well. I think that it would be better for the health of all the players If there was a consistency from week to week with the Monday night games being the lesser impact exception to their routines. I think that this might actually help to keep a higher quality of game on average. The owners would all still be making their money.
I love football and I still enjoy the NFL. If they keep messing with their success they might just lose me as a fan.
Oh well, I am just one person and one voice.
See If you can summon up enough “want to” to overcome the Falcons tonight!
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