FAB 3. GREENBERG’S SYSTEM KEEP BUCS FROM SALARY CAP HELL
NFL free agency is around the corner and isn’t it nice to know that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers don’t need to make drastic roster moves and restructure deals to get under the salary cap?

The base salary cap for the league this year is currently $168 million. For the Bucs – and other teams – that have rolled over unused salary cap room from previous years – the number is higher. For Tampa Bay, it’s an estimated $173,330,779, according to OverTheCap.com. For Cleveland, which has the most salary cap room at $106,539,421, the Browns’ cap figure for 2017 is $218,123,269.

Bucs CB Alterraun Verner – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

After releasing cornerback Alterraun Verner, which freed up $6.5 million in cap room, the Bucs have the fourth-most cap room in the league when tabulating the top 51 salaries on the books for 2017. There aren’t currently any teams that are over the cap, which goes into effect on the first day of the 2017 league year, which is March 7, but Dallas has the least amount of cap space at just $4.2 million, according to OverTheCap.com, followed by Kansas City with just over $5 million.

That’s not even enough to sign the Cowboys’ and Chiefs’ draft picks – much less any free agents – so they’ll have to cut some players or restructure some contracts to free up more cap room. Bucs fans remember those days in the early 2000s.

Former Tampa Bay general manager Rich McKay sank the Bucs on his way to Atlanta with overpriced contract extensions for defensive end Simeon Rice, wide receiver Keyshawn Johnson and kicker Martin Gramatica shortly after the team’s Super Bowl championship in 2002. McKay and former capologist John Idzik used big signing bonuses back in the day, and the accelerated proration of signing bonus money quickly turned into millions of dollars worth of dead cap money, which forced former general manager Bruce Allen and former capologist Kevin Demoff into making some very tough and unpopular roster moves to bring Tampa Bay into cap compliance from 2005-08.

Mike Greenberg took over as Tampa Bay’s capologist when he became the team’s director of football administration in 2011. He and former general manager Mark Dominik philosophy devised a new system of not paying signing bonuses, which are prorated for the cap over the life of a contract, and instead, guaranteeing the first year or two of a contract and the use of timely roster bonuses to the team’s advantage.

Mike Greenberg and Jason Licht – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

One of the best moves that general manager Jason Licht made – and it’s a move that has largely gone under the radar – is keeping Greenberg on the staff and continuing the practice of using roster bonuses and guaranteed money. The result has been very little dead salary cap money over the years, which has been a huge help in effectively managing the salary cap over the last four years.

The Bucs have $867,467 in dead cap money, and most of that is from cutting Austin Seferian-Jenkins last year. Twenty-one teams have at least $1 million in dead salary cap money. Nine teams have $3 million in dead cap money, led by Washington’s $8,746,824.

To fully understand how Greenberg’s contract structuring methods work, let’s examine reserve offensive lineman Evan Smith’s deal, which was a four-year, $14.25 million contract that included $7.25 million in guaranteed money that he signed in 2014 when he became the team’s starting center.

The deal featured a $2.5 million base salary and a $1 million roster bonus, which made his first-year cap hit $3.5 million. The roster bonus was payable immediately, so it essentially took the place of a signing bonus for Smith, although classified differently in the contract so there was no proration element. The first two years of Smith’s contract was guaranteed, so although he didn’t get $7.25 million upfront in the form of a signing bonus, Smith was still assured to get that much money even if he was released after one year.

Smith’s base salary rose to $3.75 million in 2015 and that money was guaranteed, too, but his base fell to a more palatable $2.5 million last year. It’s not uncommon in Greenberg’s contract to have players’ base salaries go up and down from year to year instead of a gradual escalation each year. That reason is twofold.

First, by having base salaries go down for a year after increasing the previous year, it gives the Bucs some flexibility and some temporary “cap savings” with certain players’ contracts. While Smith’s base salary went down in 2016 by $1.25 million, Verner’s went up from $4.25 million in 2015 to $6.75 million last year – an increase of $2.5 million.

Bucs C Evan Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

If every Bucs player’s salary continued to escalate at the same time without any of the “down years” that Greenberg budgets, Tampa Bay’s cap situation could become squeezed in a hurry. So entering 2017, Smith’s base salary rises to $3.5 million and he’s due a $1 million roster bonus in March, which makes his cap hit $4.5 million this year if he makes the team.

Despite such a high salary cap value, Smith really isn’t in danger of being a cap casualty for two reasons. First, Smith is the starting center as of right now because Joe Hawley is not under contract as of yet for 2017. The Bucs have an appreciation for his game and his position flexibility being able to play both center and guard, which is where he started against Chicago as an injury replacement for Kevin Pamphile.

And second, the Bucs are in tremendous salary cap shape, so they don’t need to cut Smith or even restructure his contract to a lower cap figure this year. That’s the most important reason.

There will come a day when the Bucs will feel a salary cap squeeze when star players like wide receiver Mike Evans, middle linebacker Kwon Alexander and quarterback Jameis Winston are signed to their second deals, which are far more lucrative than rookie contracts. Great drafting by Licht and the Bucs scouts has helped keep costs down because many of the team’s starters are still on their rookie deals and are relatively cheap labor.

But when that day comes just trust that Greenberg and Licht will be ready and will have a plan to keep the Bucs from ever going back in to salary cap hell. They’ve done a great job thus far.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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Honey Bear

When I first saw the headline, I thought “I’m sure this is being taken out of context, another hit job on an athlete, with Jameis being an easy target.” I agree there can be a tendency towards hypersensitivity. After watching the video, I have to say there is absolutely no context in which this is okay. Even if Jameis did not say “silent”, no part of this was okay. He told the boys to stand up and be strong, the girls to sit down. The only way this is okay is if he does the same for the girls afterwards.… Read more »

cgmaster27

Honey bear he clearly misspoke. He meant no ill intent and you’re acting like he told them to sit down and shut up. He didn’t even need to be there and was doing good for kids and he misspoke , which in our wussified of community we like to burn people at the steak for misspeaking. He apologize And that’s the end of it, nothing more nothing less. I see it exactly how Scott sees it and I watched the video. He meant zero I’ll intent and the media, especially the hacks at ESPN couldn’t wait for him to slip… Read more »

MudManVA

Scott thanks for another good fab 5! Jameis, bless your heart. I’m an executive who does a good bit of public speaking. It isn’t easy, and your message can unfortunately get turned around on you if you are unscripted (which probably was the case here). People who don’t have to speak to groups really don’t have an idea how difficult it can be. I know some will say, he was just speaking to kids, but no there was media & adults there too. Being playful & unscripted he made an easy mistake. To your point Scott, if someone in the… Read more »

Mark Cook

I’ll answer on the Mixon and Cook thing. One admitted to doing it, the other one denied it and was found innocent in a court. And I am not opposed to Mixon if the Bucs can get past it. Heck of a talent.

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Destino102

Great article, and I agree with you 100% on your take about what Winston said. In today’s world, you are guilty in the court of public opinion before anyone even asks you what you meant. Intent and context are important parts of what we say and do. I think most Bucs fans who follow the team enough to be going to websites like this know what kind of man Winston is, and that he is a good kid. I remember back irght after we drafted him but before he played his first game, he was filmed leaving a club with… Read more »

cgmaster27

Very good fab 5. As for the jameis thing, I’ve expressed my views up too and agree with you Scott. I also ask why this cowardly teacher didn’t say something to jameis and went straight to a news outlet? What an asshole. As forbthat Jack beat writer, if I were jameis and he asked for an interview , I’d tell him to go F**** himself. The dude been a mariota homer since he was drafted and couldn’t wait to write the garbage he did. As for how long the “rape” charges will stay with jameis, they will be there as… Read more »

Naplesfan

Scott – have you ever heard the old saying, “When you find yourself in a deep hole, then stop digging!”? You are allowed to raise and train your kids, girls or boys, any way you like, based on your own upbringing and beliefs, or on something else, in terms of both religious and cultural beliefs and practices. But neither you nor Jameis Winston has any business telling other families’ little girls and boys how to act, talk and such. Today a lot of people have different ideas than you on how boys and girls should do, act, talk, and model… Read more »

cgmaster27

I must’ve missed the part where Scott told others how to raise their kids? He spoke about how he raised HIS kids. This is part of the problem, people read something and insinuate whatever they want, just as you did.
The political correctness of today is a joke but athletes to need to be aware of it, no matter how small the subject matter is.
My main problem is with the gutless teacher who didn’t say something right then and there and instead went to the press.

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Naplesfan

Scott clearly wrote that the only problem Jameis had with his remarks was his choice of words, as in “silent” vs. “quiet”. And I am saying bullshit. It’s not the choice of word .. it is that Scott advocates people telling other people’s children, girls, how to be … he wrote specifically that if Jameis said “girls should be quiet … or ladylike”, he’s fine with that. It’s not. Scott can raise his kids any way he likes, but he can’t tell my granddaughter to be “quiet”. She isn’t, and she won’t be, and she is no less a girl… Read more »

toofamiliar17

You’re completely missing his point, Scott, which is that you’re essentially saying that it would be okay for Jameis to tell a roomful of young girls and boys how THEY should be acting – young girls and boys that are not his own. What if some random guy came into your daughter’s classroom and told her how she’s supposed to act, and you as a parent disagreed with it vehemently? What Naplesfan is saying is that it’s your call how to raise your own kids and teach them what you want to teach them, although I think some of your… Read more »

jp414

Have disagreed with you several times before, Naplesfan, but I have to concede your point on this. Not necessarily that people (Scott or anyone else, really) can’t tell your kids how to behave, or what they should think, because freedom of speech means that they absolutely can, and it’s up to the parents to set their kids straight. But, while I agree with you that PC is taken too far in many cases, I believe you cut to the crux of this argument when you said ‘That is not political correctness – it is human decency’. Those who say “I’m… Read more »

Dbuc63

Agree, however, one point to add and it goes without saying, MOST people don’t read the ENTIRE article.

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Destino102

I don’t see where Scott was telling poeple or families how they should raise their kids or act. He was just giving examples of how he raises his kids and how his family intereacts when it comes to gender. As for political correctness, I think its intent was good, but has blown up to the point where it is now thought control and where people are more interested in finding offenses in what people say intead of just having a conversation. For an example, if Jameis wanted to be as PC as possible, he wouldn’t have told all the boys… Read more »

cgmaster27

You nailed it Destiny, people just look for something to bitch about. It’s raising a whole generation of victims.

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Naplesfan

Being respectful of other persons and their right to be who they are, and not believing one is entitled to tell other people, especially impressionable children who aren’t your own children how to act, is the entire point of this affair. I don’t deny there is such a thing as excessive PC. But people really do have to talk differently under today’s social and legal rules than they used to. And that’s great. It used to be OK to denigrate people and apply noxious stereotypes,and to attempt to enforce arbitrary social rules on various classes of people. It’s not that… Read more »

toofamiliar17

Man, reading is hard, huh? Naples isn’t saying that Scott was trying to tell other people or families how to raise their kids. What he’s saying is that that WAS what Jameis would have been doing had he walked in there and told dozens of young women that ARE someone else’s families/kids how they should behave. So yea, I guess it’s fine if Scott and Jameis agree on how women should behave, even if their views are antiquated and subversively harmful. Whatever. Raise your kids the way you see fit, I guess. But Jameis has no business going around telling… Read more »

Dy-nasty D

Excellent response, Naplesfan. I don’t think Jameis was being malicious at all, but if you’re going to speak publicly (and I hope Jameis continues because he is an inspirational speaker) you need to be sensitive and fair to all parties, especially in a public school setting. But, he’s 23 and will grow, but that doesn’t mean his mistake shouldn’t be pointed out. Pointing out his error hopefully continues his growth. Scott, in his increasingly conservative bent, seems to want to take us back to the 50s when gender roles were set in stone, and those who didn’t fit in needed… Read more »

Naplesfan

Thanks, Dy-nasty D… Scott is perfectly entitled to believe however he believes, and to enforce whatever rules he wants to within the bosom of his own family. But the front door is where that must stop. I believe Jameis will learn from this … it’s tough being a public persona and having to have everything you say be subjected to reaction and sometimes criticism. But that’s why they pay him the big bucks. He could choose to stop talking to kids, but he shouldn’t and I hope he learns and gets better at that part of his job. Rate this… Read more »

Buc45

Scott, I love you football commentary. Political stuff is just unnecessary… Jameis had good intentions, said something that was a little off and then immediately apologized. Good for him… Unlike some people we in power.

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Dy-nasty D

Agree ^^^^^^

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SaskBucs

This Winston thing is ridiculous. Now we are debating gender roles on a football site and discussing PC culture. Scott and Naplesfan and everyone else can raise their children however they want and hopefully get 20 years to mold them into upstanding citizens, yet a 40 minute talk is gonna ruin all that because now a couple girls (who have probably forgotten most of what was even said) think they aren’t strong just because an NFL quarterback said so. This leads to a faculty member raising a stink because he/she didn’t have the courage or common sense or social awareness… Read more »

cgmaster27

Agreed about Ross. I wasn’t a fan of his after the bama game, but after three surgeries, two to his knees, I would never draft him.

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gafikdetail

sorry scott but i chuckled at the “strong male of the house” part LOL

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Mark Cook

I didn’t chuckle. I belly laughed…. JK

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Hank Scorpio

Just because Jameis didn’t have any ill intent when he misspoke doesn’t shield what he said from being interpreted negatively by those listening. 8 yr old children typically don’t have the ability to discern what someone’s true intent is when they speak. They’re still at a point where they’re taking what an adult says, especially a famous celebrity or athlete, at face value. There’s no denying that, at best, he made an unintentional sexist statement. Saying what he said doesn’t make him a bad person, but he definitely needs to be more mindful when he’s speaking in public. Rate this… Read more »

Destino102

But when we say something, we can’t control how others interpret it. That’s why if you think someone says something harmful or offensive, you ask them what they meant right there and then. Instead we take what someone said, check the “Offensive Statement” chart in our heads with the corresponding “Punishment” chart, and then dole out condemnation until they complete their required punishment. “Ok, Winston told girls that they sould be silent, according to the chart. . . . that makes him a sexist . . . .and for punishment, looks like we need a public apology with 5 lashings,… Read more »

toofamiliar17

This is a crucial point. One is responsible for the effects of their actions every bit as much as the intent. Jameis may not have meant it to come out the way it did, which should certainly impact the way we judge HIM….but it did. We can separate judgement of him individually from judgment of his words/actions. I don’t really think he meant it the way it came out either, but it DID come out that way – he did tell women that they’re supposed to be silent, polite, and gentle, in IDRECT CONTRAST to boys, who are supposed to… Read more »

FilmBuc

Scott, I don’t think you even realized how large a hole you were digging with each subsequent paragraph. What you are preaching (and yes, it is preaching when you use a platform such as Pewter Report to lecture on your belief system) is the very definition of sexism – that boys and girls “should” align themselves to different codes of conduct because of their gender. It’s not the pervasive in-your-face sexism that is keeping the women in our society from the equal rights they deserve – it’s the seemingly good-natured antiquated and outdated line of thoughts that you are clearly… Read more »

SaskBucs

I think I understand your criticism of what Scott wrote but the counter point from you and your daughter was very vague. Most homes are run like Scotts, I would hope, and as he states his daughter and wife are strong and are able to do anything they want to. He isn’t restricting them in anyway because they are women. Women can’t have their cake and eat it to. Is your daughter offended if a male caller opens the car door for her? Does your daughter think she has a better chance at subduing a home intruder than her potentially… Read more »

buccaneerNW

Much of what we think about in terms of gender is culturally based, not biological or “natural”… Some of it is instinctive probably, but society doesn’t have to organize itself around the one who is strong enough to go out and kill animals or fight off an enemy tribe anymore.

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Destino102

Dude. This is Pewter Report. Not some High School debate. Scott giving us insight on the inner workings of his household is not meant to be some blueprint he wants everyone to follow, but more to give an example of the more Traditional and Chivalrous mindset. For an example: Both my wife and I work, we have a dog, but no children. I know what she is capable of. I know she is strong enough to lift a box without my help. I know she can open a door. I know she can stand up for herself without me butting… Read more »

Runole

Scott, Good point especially when you expect the insight of a 14 year old girl to be worth more than the adult in the room. Yes they are entitled to their opinion but the child does not direct the adult. Yes there are occasions an adult can learn from a child’s perception. Being a child does not make one an adult. The vast majority of the time most teenagers are ruled more by their peers than any adult. This often leads them to do very immature and stupid things to satisfy their peers. Education today for the mast majority is… Read more »

buccaneerNW

I think Scott’s justification is far more sexist than Winston’s comments. At worst, Winston reflected the gender roles learned from his upbringing. And he apologized. I don’t think he intended to say a woman’s place is to be quiet and the man’s is to be strong. Scott, however, takes it to the next level. The term “ladylike” is an obviously sexist term. The associations go along with assumed gender roles. And the whole chivalry thing? Of course there’s nothing wrong with opening a door for someone – a man or a woman… Scott, it’s not surprising you’re a kreiste-pimping republican.… Read more »

cgmaster27

Ladylike is a sexist term?! Wow give me a break. So I guess calling a guy a stud football player is sexist too? Youre reaching here and it’s sad. nw it wouldn’t surprise me if you were a sign totaling liberal waiting to march against any cause thrown in front of them. Careful calling out people for their beliefs, no one is right here so don’t act like you are on your soap box.

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cgmaster27

Although I’m sure next you’ll say a man is sexist for opening a woman’s door because she is “strong” enough to do it herself.

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buccaneerNW

Yes, ladylike is a term loaded with an assumed gender role. Is it not? I can’t see how it’s not. So yeah, it’s inherently sexist. You don’t have to be a lefty to know this… But you have to be a dumbass not to know it.

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cgmaster27

Ok so in your terms gentleman is sexist too? It goes both way genius. And thinking the word lady like isn’t sexist, doesn’t make me dumb i just don’t live in a egg shell like yourself. And what role do you make up in your warped mind does lady like mean? To me it’s it means soft spoken, gentle, and attentive, just like the word gentleman. But you go ahead and make it something it’s not.

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buccaneerNW

Well, the main diff between “ladylike” and “gentleman” is that cultural expectations have always been more explicit for womens’ role. And ladylike contains the notion of being quiet and submissive, obedient and not disruptive, along with a certain expectation of femininity. And most women don’t want to be boxed in that way. I didn’t make this up. Now, it’s not a crime to use the term descriptively, but it’s not helpful to impose a fixed notion of gender role on anyone, man or woman.

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Destino102

“Ladylike” is not a gender role. Role: meaning job or position. “Ladylike” is an additude. Being soft-spoken and polite. There is nothing wrong with being soft-spoken and polite. Also, Scott did not say he thinks all girls need to be more Ladylike.

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buccaneerNW

And, you can open a door for a woman, sure… and you can also open a door for a man… It’s called being polite and considerate, which doesn’t require “chivalry”. I open doors for people all the time.

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Naplesfan

Me too, buccaneer. If a girl wants to act like, well, what my granddaughter calls a “girly-girl”, great. And if a girl wants to be treated just like the boys, that’s great too. I remember the 1950s (just barely – just the first six years of my young life at the time) … I didn’t think much of if then, and much less as I grew older and realized that the cultural stereotypes in force then were designed to keep people down and “in their place”. I remember an awful lot of remarks about “uppity ____” …. you can imagine… Read more »

chetthevette

Girls like sex back then? I had no idea.
GO BUCS

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jshumaker

He spoke his mind about how he felt. There is nothing wrong with what he said. Even though it may contradict what other people may think, it was not degrading just a more traditional view point. That has not changed my view that Jameis has outstanding character and charisma. As a matter of fact it may have strengthened my view that he is a class act and honestly tries to show respect every chance he gets.

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chetthevette

I usually wait to read the entire Fab 5 before I comment. But I’ll chime in on #1 first. Who the hell is Jones. Just another [edited comment] filling content and causing trouble. I pretty sure Jones realizes that Winston just misspoke. But noooo he blows it up. Now we all love Scott, but there is always a but. He fed the flames and got the comments going. His site he can do what he wants. Anyone who thinks the girl power movement is not alive and well should go on YouTube and count the pink pussy hats. I know… Read more »

4girls

Well, here we go. I am married and we have four daughters. I’ve been a Buc fan since I was 6 and will continue to be one until death parts us. I was not happy when Jameis was drafted. I grew up in Oregon, now live in Washington state, and like I said, have four daughters. However, in the past two years, I have been nothing but impressed with Jameis on and off the field. Until now. He screwed up. We all know this. I don’t believe Jameis meant to hurt or demean anyone. I’m guessing he went into that… Read more »

76Buc

I agree 4girls. I have 3 girls. I like the way you expressed the issues without the PC garbage. However, as I think of my worldview as a 23 year young man returning from combat in Southeast Asian, this young man is far beyond where I was. However, I don’t think he was addressing young girls . Just trying to draw out a young man. Had the adressed young girls and said the boys should be silent, no one would have said a word. Media are hypocrites.

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chetthevette

Well put 4girls.

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chetthevette

Now on to the rest of a pretty good Fab 5. I believe in Licht to draft well for us. I am less sure if who the BUCS will take at #19 than ever. I kind of like the idea of trading down and getting some extra picks. There are a lot a guys in the late rounds that can immediately help us. Especially safeties and Corner backs. Here are my picks based on funny names. Taco Charleton Corn Elder Kid Cannon – is that a great football name or what. And don’t forget about the many alphabet soup names… Read more »

chetthevette

This draft has many hilarious names to be made fun of. Know this though. Corn Elder is one tough S.O.B..
Can you imagine how he was picked on. I won’t say the things that he was called, you guys use your imagination.
Boy named Sue and all that.
GO BUCS

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surferdudes

At the age of 23, Winston to me, is still a child himself. As all young people do, he’ll learn from this. Maybe you could moonlight as his speech writer Scott. Give him a prepared text to read with his input. Tom Jones is a [edited comment].

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Runole

I wonder how many that posted on these replies are women? That would be most interesting.

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76Buc

He may be your friend, but I will never read his post again.

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zorro

This response is not just directed to the recent episode with Winston at Melrose, but with all the media in every arena, both sports related and politically. What the hell happened to the way things used to be? Why can’t honesty and integrity be foremost with every article? Is it really that important to be the first loud voice to nit-pick with everything that will eventually do more harm than good? Start acting like everything you put in print is about your family members and report more positive than negative. Give it a break! ! ! ! ! Why should… Read more »

johnnybuc1

Completely understand where most here are coming from, BUT…this whole “MISSPOKE” idea makes some very uncomfortable, because we hear it now daily coming from the mad men & women running around the White House these days. I’ll be damned if I’m gonna believe their snake oil sales tactics over news organizations I’ve followed for decades. I’d be a lot more comfortable if Jameis would just come out and say “I said it. I didn’t give it much thought at the time, and explain himself. Not the MISSPOKE term you see our White House using to cover up their lies. It… Read more »

Runole

So you have great trust in the media? I don’t Winston’s apology wasn’t enough? JMO but I still say no apology was necessary but he did it anyway and he is still in your doghouse.

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Mr. Incredible

What a non-story. What if he had told the BOYs they were supposed to be quite? Then it’s all good. I didn’t vote for Trump but he was elected because we’re all tired of idiots like Jones telling us all what’s ok to say and not to say. Screw all the PC crap. Jamis has his opinion on gender behaviour. If you disagree then make the case for your argument logically. No more telling eveyone, “You just can’t say that”. That’s ship has sailed.

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chetthevette

Trump but he was elected because we’re all tired of idiots like Jones telling us all what’s ok to say and not to say. Mr. Incredible Have you been watching and paying attention lately? Trump has been trying to muffle the press since he walked onto the public stage. Idiots trying to tell us what is what’s OK to say, sure it stifles public thoughts and expression but sometimes idiots need to just shut the #### up. Scott asked for no profanity, so you can fill in any word you choose there. Logically speaking Jones over stated what was a… Read more »

76Buc

Chetthevette, the press is now the liberal democratic party representative. They need to be muffled because they do not report fair and balanced news. The key word is report. They should only offer opinions on the editioral page, not the front page. Likewise, they should not make news. Just report it. Yellow journalism is alive and well. They are controlled by elite billionaires (George Soros for one, butn they are legion), celebraties, and the powerful East Coast establishment that controls what we read and what we hear. However, the Fourth Estate is in trouble now because of social media. They… Read more »

Naplesfan

You’re delving into dangerous political and ideological ground, 76Buc. I will just quote the well known war hero John McCain, when asked about recent comments from the President and his paid hacks at the White House: Muzzling the press is exactly what dictators do. We’ve also never had a wannabe dictator before either as we do now. No prior President of either party has ever attempted to muzzle the press. Even Abraham Lincoln in the midst of fighting a civil war did not attempt to muzzle Democratic party newspapers who lambasted him daily in their papers. Abe understood that the… Read more »

scubog

No one wants to “muzzle” them Naples. We would all like less biased and truthful reporting. Apparently you believe that crap. As for McCain…..sour grapes.

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76Buc

Mr. Incredible, you’re incredible. I am now a fan!

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Uncle Stan

Believe you hit he nail on the head. IMO, PC contributed to a lot of problems in this country. If a person said it, they have to live with it (good or bad received) – the rest of us don’t necessarily have to agree with it. But once said it’s said. He has to live with it. If he he want to address it immediatelyafter its said, to change focus, ok, but not after others go after him for what he said. Is this instance, JW said what he said. We don’t need Jones or a school teacher or Pewter… Read more »

esquandolas4

well this comment section turned into a dumpster fire rather quickly, huh? Sorry to break it to you but no one cares what your 14 year old has to say on any matter. The way you pompously transcribed her response to this article as though it was gospel proves you are just as blind as any other parent in today’s society; thinking their precious baby is the only child to get straight A’s, or their kid is going to be a professional athlete because they are a star in little league. At no time was Scott being sexist for explaining… Read more »

scubog

Esquandolas4 and Tassnonedna: Thank you for finally bringing some sanity to this ridiculous topic that does nothing but encourage those who don’t want to be told how to conduct themselves to jump to the podium and preach how everyone else should think, speak and act. Today’s society must be close to taking the word “gender” out of the dictionary and removing the male/female designation from birth certificates and simply note “To Be Determined”. I’m waiting for the fourth grader who has male genitalia, but identifies as a one without the appendage, to enter the school restroom which is the most… Read more »

chetthevette

scubog
When we were kids could you imagine jumping on your Schwinn banana seat bike with ape hanger handle bars riding off to jump over, lets say some rusty old 55 gallon barrels, and your Mom said “put your helmet on honey”.
Kids today are doomed.
GO BUCS

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76Buc

Scubog, I wish I could have gone into the girls bathroom as a 10 year old. Now everytime I try it everyone gets upset. Go figure.

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Tassonedna

Shame on Tom Jones, the Tampa Bay Times and that teacher for attacking Jameis Winston’s character when he had nothing but GOOD INTENTIONS in taking his own personal time to help the children in OUR community. WOW! Is about all I can say. If you really watch the video Winston was talking to all the BOYS and GIRLS when he was saying repeat after me “I can do anything I put my mind to.” After the 2nd time he had them repeat it, you could tell Winston was hoping for a more louder and deeper response. He then ask the… Read more »

Naplesfan

Winston said something dumb and offensive. He got called on the carpet for it. He will either learn to do better or he will get lambasted again until he stops.

Get over it.

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Runole

If it makes the critics of Winston feel better Winston’s mom is praying for you..

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buccaneerNW

The first time around, I’m not sure I knew this exact quote from Jameis: “But the ladies, they’re supposed to be silent, polite, gentle. My men, my men (are) supposed to be strong.” Clearly a sexist message. All the strength stuff is baloney… And the “silent, polite, gentle” for the girls? Wrong message. He didn’t use poor word choice; he spoke from his own beliefs, which are apparently rooted in 1950’s gender roles. Now, this isn’t a crime, but it is a seriously backwards message in the year 2017. I’m sure it’s not his intention to disempower girls at a… Read more »

76Buc

The 1950’s were not a bad time bucnw. We didn’t have feminazi’s trying to nueter everyman around.

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Naplesfan

The 50s sucked. I was there.

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JayBuc52

Bully to you SR. Yes, Winston misspoke but the teacher should have been a better role model and should had corrected him on the spot. Instead, she chose to go public with it, which is cowardly. I also agree that girls and boys should be raised differently. Too many girls grow up with uninvolved parents and the result is a lot of gender confusion, teenage pregnancies and young ladies who can curse like a sailor. Young women need to be taught to stand up for themselves, to respect their own bodies and to shoot for the moon careerwise. They should… Read more »

76Buc

I have a daughter and 2 granddaughters. I have no problems what this very decent, good hearted, yet immature, kid said. While it could have been expressed better, he was trying to draw a young man out. His intentions are pure, yet he is being vilified by Tom Jones of the Tapa Bay Tribune and the rest of the ultra liberal press. Jones and you bozos have been defeated and I cannot wait for two more years when you are completely gone. You’re all morons and I want to puke when I read this tripe. Leave our franchise quaterback alone!… Read more »

jp414

Very good article, Mr. Reynolds. The ridiculous promotion of Winston’s classroom address story by the media is really getting out of control. It’s now posted on the CNN.com homepage! I just feel I need to address your ‘boilerplate’ question. You said you wondered when the rape allegation story will fade away and that boilerplate will no longer be used in stories about him. The honest truth is – never. You wrote ‘…his alleged sexual assault – that resulted in no charges being filed and his complete exoneration at Florida State…’ is not completely accurate. If it were, the boilerplate could… Read more »

Runole

Too many false assumptions on Winston’s character. It is rather obvious there was no rape and that just like the Duke lacrosse team should reach the same conclusion based on the results of the investigation. You are correct though in the PC world we live in today it will only go away when the “Real” world discovers that women and children do indeed lie just like men. Back to the actual case it was dropped because their was not enough evidence to even bring about an arrest. Truthfully, I believe it is all tied to a man of color having… Read more »

Runole

Oops! “there instead of their” 2nd paragraph. I will forever live in shame for my clerical error!LOL

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jp414

Runole: I was speaking strictly in terms of facts, your statements are forms of opinion. I don’t discount your opinion, but when you include terms like ‘lie’ and ‘consensual sex’, ‘obvious’ & ‘money grubbers’ – these are all opinions. It is true that in a court of law, Winston would be acquitted for lack of evidence, but lack of evidence does not mean someone is innocent, it only means he or she is more likely to be innocent, and we don’t want to convict anyone if there is any ‘reasonable doubt’, or bring charges if there is not enough evidence… Read more »

jp414

Sorry, my own faux pas, should have typed: ‘Anyone who says Winston is INNOCENT of assault is stating an opinion, by the same reasoning, anyone who says he IS guilty is also stating opinion

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Runole

I can only go by what the criminal justice system determined and the civil court determined.

All the rest are just opinions

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Horse

Scott, I got back last night from a 4 week trip to South America and Anartica and Pewter Report was the first thing I opened back up. As always Scott, it was well written and expressed. So many of us forget to lighten up and use some humor. All Jameis was being at that moment was a young boy himself; he’s such a likeable guy and he was just trying to inspire to some future football boys. I’m glad for me not much happened while I was gone. Now on to Indianapolis! Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes… Read more »

ryan24

Scott…if you really feel the way you seem to, based on your writings here, you have no reason not to absolutely blast Tom Jones for doing exactly what you think the world has turned into. I don’t care if he’s a friend or foe. He should be taken to task.

He is the reason this is even an issue. Not ESPN, not the kids, not the parents or teachers. Tom Jones.

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plopes808

Unfortunately Jameis will always be targeted by the media and shown in a bad light, much like some elected officials. We all knew this when we drafted him and there is nothing that will ever change the minds of some. All he can do is keep doing the good he’s doing and those of us who haven’t already predetermined his character will appreciate his efforts. In this hyper-sensitive time we live in, ANYTHING he says can be misconstrued and used to attack his character. He is still a young man and has many mistakes to make as he “grows up.”… Read more »

Julian Jordan

You guys are seriously way too sensitive.

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Dude

I love your take on this Scott, and I agree with you 100%! The article written by the guy from the Times was nothing more than this guy taking an opportunity to take a stab at Jameis with the knife of political correctness and garner some nation wide attention for his article. He knows it, and most everyone else who reads the article knows it. But the weak and feeble minded, the sheeple, who love to jump on the train heading west won’t miss an opportunity for a free ride to take down someone in the name of political correctness.… Read more »

inspecto

I cannot believe all these words 358,705,932,257,000.04 were wasted on this topic.!!! Football anyone???

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