Everyone knows LVD came out with his loafing comments. Diaby too. I have wondered if PR would report on it more. Maybe they will, but not surprising that DEAN comes up as an EASY example of a loafer last season with another outlet highlighting his play in the Patriots game, arguably he beginning of the collapse. '
Several examples are provided but if you recall the Patriots throw a TD by tricking self-centered/moneyball Dean to come off his zone responsibility. They run the same play where Dean SUCCESSFULLY jumped out of his responsibility to pick off the underneath pass earlier in the season. . except of course the Patriots go over the top. Tykee Smith compounds it by not doing his job. TD for the Patriots. Google the highlt to watch Dean, but it other plays, particualrly run defense tht stand out
A recurring them has been that the Bucs are sort of in Super Bowl veteran clean out mode. As much as you can love LVD for his career, her was AWFUL last season and admits to loafing himself. Dean was already gone, so he was not going to do anything for the team and it shows. Reddick a total bust who fought with Vea.
Will be interesting to see if more examples come out.
what a s--- show
Lots of finger pointing in this.
All at everyone except the main culprit.
Everyone knows LVD came out with his loafing comments. Diaby too. I have wondered if PR would report on it more. Maybe they will, but not surprising that DEAN comes up as an EASY example of a loafer last season with another outlet highlighting his play in the Patriots game, arguably he beginning of the collapse. '
Several examples are provided but if you recall the Patriots throw a TD by tricking self-centered/moneyball Dean to come off his zone responsibility. They run the same play where Dean SUCCESSFULLY jumped out of his responsibility to pick off the underneath pass earlier in the season. . except of course the Patriots go over the top. Tykee Smith compounds it by not doing his job. TD for the Patriots. Google the highlt to watch Dean, but it other plays, particualrly run defense tht stand out
A recurring them has been that the Bucs are sort of in Super Bowl veteran clean out mode. As much as you can love LVD for his career, her was AWFUL last season and admits to loafing himself. Dean was already gone, so he was not going to do anything for the team and it shows. Reddick a total bust who fought with Vea.
Will be interesting to see if more examples come out.
what a s--- show
i mean not many head coaches survive that type of collapse
for them to go 2-4 in the last 6 games they were favored in, with the two wins being described as "marginal/lackluster" at best.....the team hasn't played good football since the month of October......and yet head coach returns
Everyone knows LVD came out with his loafing comments. Diaby too. I have wondered if PR would report on it more. Maybe they will, but not surprising that DEAN comes up as an EASY example of a loafer last season with another outlet highlighting his play in the Patriots game, arguably he beginning of the collapse. '
Several examples are provided but if you recall the Patriots throw a TD by tricking self-centered/moneyball Dean to come off his zone responsibility. They run the same play where Dean SUCCESSFULLY jumped out of his responsibility to pick off the underneath pass earlier in the season. . except of course the Patriots go over the top. Tykee Smith compounds it by not doing his job. TD for the Patriots. Google the highlt to watch Dean, but it other plays, particualrly run defense tht stand out
A recurring them has been that the Bucs are sort of in Super Bowl veteran clean out mode. As much as you can love LVD for his career, her was AWFUL last season and admits to loafing himself. Dean was already gone, so he was not going to do anything for the team and it shows. Reddick a total bust who fought with Vea.
Will be interesting to see if more examples come out.
what a s--- show
i mean not many head coaches survive that type of collapse
for them to go 2-4 in the last 6 games they were favored in, with the two wins being described as "marginal/lackluster" at best.....the team hasn't played good football since the month of October......and yet head coach returns
Well, Dean COULD BE another reason why Bowles might have gotten a reprieve.
Who came up wit the plan to psuedo-cut him and why? Its like they tried to run him off by cutting his contract and he called their bluff. If youre going to do then just get rid of him all together or bench him. Dont go with some weird half measure, especially NOT with a player like Dean BECAUSE hes going to do things like try to jump the route in the Pats game.
Bowles has always talked up Dean, so maybe he had something to do with a compromise on Dean? Who knows, but recall that the Bucs moved on previously from Davis in a cost cutting move, so maybe Dean's pay cut plan was really a front office thing? To cheap to cut and replace?
Not sure, but its at least possible that the Dean contract thing was Bowles rolling with the punches.
This is an interesting post.
I mean Olaf, you’ve made it clear for years that you don’t like Dean (slightly more direct and vocal about it vs. the passive and subtle way you were towards Evans).
You laughed off his overall great performance this year as “it’s a contract year, so naturally he’s going to play at a high level”…and now…it’s he’s a loafer, he didn’t play well, he didn’t care.
I mean, which is it?
He took a pay cut and still played at a high level. He publicly stated he’d be willing to take less money to stay another few years because he loved the Tampa area.
Did he ultimately quit on his HC?
Yep. As did the majority of the team.
Clearly, he didn’t want to come back and play for a HC who historically coached and schemed away from his strengths (and was called out for it by him and Davis).
Like Evans, wish him the best.
This is an interesting post.
I mean Olaf, you’ve made it clear for years that you don’t like Dean (slightly more direct and vocal about it vs. the passive and subtle way you were towards Evans).
You laughed off his overall great performance this year as “it’s a contract year, so naturally he’s going to play at a high level”…and now…it’s he’s a loafer, he didn’t play well, he didn’t care.
I mean, which is it?
He took a pay cut and still played at a high level. He publicly stated he’d be willing to take less money to stay another few years because he loved the Tampa area.
Did he ultimately quit on his HC?
Yep. As did the majority of the team.
Clearly, he didn’t want to come back and play for a HC who historically coached and schemed away from his strengths (and was called out for it by him and Davis).
Like Evans, wish him the best.
Let start by clearing up your assumptions.
1. I dont dislike Dean or Evans. They are both good players WHEN THEY PLAY. Thats where the similarity ends though lol because Evans plays less now for age/injury. If he was still young, fast and healthy hed still be tearing it up. Father time undefeated though, just ask LVD. Dean has always been about $. Thast not Evans . Evans is a complete class act HOFer. A generational player. Dean is just a good corner with a fairly common amongst NFL players $ motivator.
2. If making an ACCURATE point that Dean on paper is not Dean on the field (unless $ is on the line) means I dont like Dean in your eyes then fair enough. I prefer to say that I am just trying to call it as I see it. All the talent in the world means nothing if not motivated and/or available.
3. If making accurate points about Evans role and health in 2025 means I dont like Evans in your eyes so be it. too Completely wrong. I am a big fan. But, okay. I am just a realist. His contribution to the Bucs in 2025 was OBJECTIVELY very modest by his historical standards and absolutely some of that is AGE-related. He should do much better with the 49ers than he did with the Bucs in 2025 and maybe even 2024. And that is a credit to him because he's adapted his game. Here's to good heath and good fortune! He deserves it.
4. I dont think Dean played great in 2025? I think he played the best he might play (couple INTs) for the Bucs because $ was on the line. and that is good I was glad to see it. BUT, now in hindsight -- key point - the contract situation seemed to makes him even more likely to do the thing I referenced in my post though (jump routes) and even more likely to bail on the team defense if its putting him at risk of injury, for example. Dean had more INTS in 2025 then in the three years prior? Maybe just as many? Thats just coincidence? He played ona worse defense that quit on Bowles but his individual stats were better? I think he got $36 million from the Steelers.
5. Dean is of course going to say he wants to stay in Tampa . . . while Tampa is a place that might give him an extension. And while he is auditioning for a new role. He was definitely going wherever the $ was found.
6. By quit on Bowles I mean elevated his own interest over the team ie jumping routes, like when it worked and when it did not.
7. I didn't say Dean was a loafer I said that someone else said that he was one of the loafers and provided examples. It sure looks that way to me now that I have read and seen the examples. I am not watching Bucs games in 2025 trying to figure out if Dean is a loafer or not lmao. However, I was able to see the TEAM defense falter, enough to say during the season that Boles had lost the team and AFTER the season that he should be fired for that reason.
LVD looked gassed so I am not sure I would call it loafing and he had to cover up a lot of Dennis' mistakes.
Dean loafing? Sure maybe but then again the Steelers handed him a nice juicy contract as a key part of their secondary revamp along with Brisker. Bottom line is that the HC has to call out or bench players that are not playing it right. T. Smith is a great example so if Bowles was being too nice with his boy Jamal Dean then that is a Bowles problem.
LVD knew he stayed a year too long by his exit comments.
Not one Buc’s fan wanted Dean back after being rated the best corner in the league statistically.
Evans will be fed in San Fran.
Dean had a very good year last year but the problem is that he still isn't a scheme fit with where this team wants to go with DBs. Dean and Davis are now on teams that will use their skill set. Bucs drafted Parrish, Morrison and Scott for their new vision on the backend that will deploy more zone play which requires DBs to plant and drive. Dean and Davis were never those type of DBs as they relied on LoS bump and run or contesting catches on boundary or jump balls.
Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if Scott comes in and wins NCB like Dwight Smith, Parrish and Tykee Smith did as rookie too throughout the years To play NCB you have to be able to plant and drive to contest slants as an example which does translate to playing boundary and I think Parrish may end up the best boundary CB by the end of training camp.
McCollum seems the odd man out with this new scheme shift but he is young and with his contract he will be given a shot to compete with Morrison and Parrish on the boundary.
Dean had a very good year last year but the problem is that he still isn't a scheme fit with where this team wants to go with DBs. Dean and Davis are now on teams that will use their skill set.
Yep.
So incredibly frustrating watching Bowles misuse them year in and year out.
The loafing issue is and always will be a direct reflection on the head coach and lack of leadership that he has as a head coach. He should have stopped that bullshit dead in its tracks, whether it was LVD, Dean, or any of the other guys on the team. Could you imagine how the team might have performed in spite of the injuries had he put a foot in their loafing asses? They might not have collapsed to the magnitude they collapsed to had he shown a little life himself and made it clear loafing wouldn't be tolerated regardless of whether you are LVD or Ko Kieft. Instead, we have a head coach who thought walk-through practices were better than full-speed practices. It's no wonder they were loafing.....and we elected to keep this grinning idiot employed.
Bottom line is that the HC has to call out or bench players that are not playing it right.
agreed. That is why I wondered about the weird arrangement with Dean.
The loafing issue is and always will be a direct reflection on the head coach and lack of leadership that he has as a head coach
agreed.
I think it's both...
Bowles misuses talent to fit into his scheme vs finding the scheme that fits his talent.
Dean quiet quit also... He's always loafed around and he's always getting injured on weak contact or no contact at all.
Overall, it was for the best that Dean moved on and got paid. I'd much rather have the comp pick.
That said, Licht has left us paper thin at CB and hasn't made an attempt so far to bring in a few vets to bolster the depth chart.
It's a hodgepodge of stupid shit that can all exist with one another.
