They seem to be pulling out all the stops.
I’m going with the idea that Bowles retires at the end of the year, regardless of outcome. I think if Zac Robinson has a good season, he may be the top new HC candidate.
Hey, if Bowles miraculously turns the defense around, great. Hoping he goes out on a successful season.
so I think that cash argument is overblown lately by PR staff and others.
It's not overblown when it's factual.
Whether or not you agree with the process is irrelevant.
It is overblown because it gives Licht an out when all other GMs have had to navigate this which is just weasel words that PR staff is using lately and I am not buying it. Not giving Licht an out if he keeps handing contracts out like the one he gave to McCollum over and over again.
Well, which one is it?
In the first instance you were saying the cash budget is not real. Now you seem to be saying it is real but Licht has mismanaged it? If he mismanaged the cash budget then the cash budget is real.
It can be both. Bucs are prepared to extend Mayfield this year or next if they can agree. They were prepared to given Evans over market value and that is with Otton in the fold. PR staff framed it like it was an Otton or Evans choice but the Bucs FO was sorry PR but we wanted BOTH back.
Also the tough decision of "Vea" or Diaby next year is another one because if the Buca are motivated they will want to have both back. If it means they do not sign a single outside free agent or let the Bredesons of the world walk (LOL) then so be it.
McCollum was prematurely extended and that is universally agreed upon. When the Bucs make a decision with Mayfield, Diaby and Vea it will not be a situation where they were prematurely extended and mismanaged the cap.
so I think that cash argument is overblown lately by PR staff and others.
It's not overblown when it's factual.
Whether or not you agree with the process is irrelevant.
It is overblown because it gives Licht an out when all other GMs have had to navigate this which is just weasel words that PR staff is using lately and I am not buying it. Not giving Licht an out if he keeps handing contracts out like the one he gave to McCollum over and over again.
Well, which one is it?
In the first instance you were saying the cash budget is not real. Now you seem to be saying it is real but Licht has mismanaged it? If he mismanaged the cash budget then the cash budget is real.
It can be both. Bucs are prepared to extend Mayfield this year or next if they can agree. They were prepared to given Evans over market value and that is with Otton in the fold. PR staff framed it like it was an Otton or Evans choice but the Bucs FO was sorry PR but we wanted BOTH back.
Also the tough decision of "Vea" or Diaby next year is another one because if the Buca are motivated they will want to have both back. If it means they do not sign a single outside free agent or let the Bredesons of the world walk (LOL) then so be it.
McCollum was prematurely extended and that is universally agreed upon. When the Bucs make a decision with Mayfield, Diaby and Vea it will not be a situation where they were prematurely extended and mismanaged the cap.
if you say "it can be both" you are acknowledging there is a cash budget because there has to be something for Licht to mess up lol
And sure, any team can do whatever if the owners are motivated. I think the Bucs went over the cash budget for Brady but that was sort a unique circumstance because he was the GOAT QB . .. and it makes the pint anyway because the Bucs have bene adhering to a cash budget since. That is and was the point. Licht is operating within the constraint provided by the owners.
I never saw PR frame it as "Otton or Evans" where did that come from?
I’m going with the idea that Bowles retires at the end of the year, regardless of outcome.
that might be right. I think hes 61 or 62 so right in that area.
so I think that cash argument is overblown lately by PR staff and others.
It's not overblown when it's factual.
Whether or not you agree with the process is irrelevant.
It is overblown because it gives Licht an out when all other GMs have had to navigate this which is just weasel words that PR staff is using lately and I am not buying it. Not giving Licht an out if he keeps handing contracts out like the one he gave to McCollum over and over again.
Well, which one is it?
In the first instance you were saying the cash budget is not real. Now you seem to be saying it is real but Licht has mismanaged it? If he mismanaged the cash budget then the cash budget is real.
It can be both. Bucs are prepared to extend Mayfield this year or next if they can agree. They were prepared to given Evans over market value and that is with Otton in the fold. PR staff framed it like it was an Otton or Evans choice but the Bucs FO was sorry PR but we wanted BOTH back.
Also the tough decision of "Vea" or Diaby next year is another one because if the Buca are motivated they will want to have both back. If it means they do not sign a single outside free agent or let the Bredesons of the world walk (LOL) then so be it.
McCollum was prematurely extended and that is universally agreed upon. When the Bucs make a decision with Mayfield, Diaby and Vea it will not be a situation where they were prematurely extended and mismanaged the cap.
if you say "it can be both" you are acknowledging there is a cash budget because there has to be something for Licht to mess up lol
And sure, any team can do whatever if the owners are motivated. I think the Bucs went over the cash budget for Brady but that was sort a unique circumstance because he was the GOAT QB . .. and it makes the pint anyway because the Bucs have bene adhering to a cash budget since. That is and was the point. Licht is operating within the constraint provided by the owners.
I never saw PR frame it as "Otton or Evans" where did that come from?
No I am saying you are buying the PR spin of "cash budget" is why Licht is average GM now and can't bring in outside talent. Licht and the Bucs FO is choosing to pay above market value for Otton and to bring back Evans.
From the Bucs point of view there are no imaginary severe restrictions if they are motivated to bring home grown players back in the fold. Also PR started spinning the old narrative again this off season since Licht is receiving heat that the Glazers all of sudden care about being cash conscious. Well the reality is the Glazers have always cared about cash guarantees which is why the team choses to use roster bonuses to augment signing bonuses versus larger signing bonuses versus other teams. And this is over many GM administrations in recent Bucs franchise history, and Licht is no exception. it is the same guaranteed money in the end as it is accelerated to the salary cap once the player is on the roster on a given date. This not give a Licht a pass for being an average GM.
No I am saying you are buying the PR spin of "cash budget" is why Licht is average GM now and can't bring in outside talent. Licht and the Bucs FO is choosing to pay above market value for Otton and to bring back Evans.
I am not excusing Licht's performance by saying there is a cash budget? I am just acknowledging reality. And of course how they allocate the budget impacts the budget. Again, you're the one moving from "cash budget not real" to now it is "mismanaged". . . . which means? Its real.
Licht is receiving heat that the Glazers all of sudden care about being cash conscious. Well the reality is the Glazers have always cared about cash guarantees which is why the team choses to use roster bonuses to augment signing bonuses versus larger signing bonuses versus other teams. And this is over many GM administrations in recent Bucs franchise history, and Licht is no exception. it is the same guaranteed money in the end as it is accelerated to the salary cap once the player is on the roster on a given date. This not give a Licht a pass for being an average GM.
Who is giving him a pass? I think he is a good GM. You think he's average, I guess. Neither opinion changes the FACT reported by PR (and consistent with any reasonable observation) that the Glazers give Licht a cash budget. Every decent business runs on a budget.
As Fire might say, really weird hill to die on.
PR spin of "cash budget"
the "spin" lol
"Every ownership group sets a cash budget for their personnel departments each season. It differs from team to team, and traditionally the Glazers have kept their cash spending tied to the salary cap, which puts them in the lower third of the NFL. They went all in during the Tom Brady years but pulled back hard in 2023 before returning to status quo since 2024"
Who is giving him a pass? I think he is a good GM. You think he's average, I guess. Neither opinion changes the FACT reported by PR (and consistent with any reasonable observation) that the Glazers give Licht a cash budget. Every decent business runs on a budget.
Being prepared to do more restructure to bring back Evans indicates to me that Licht didn't even reach to the upper ceiling budget limit set this year. The fact that the Bucs overpaid for Robinson, Otton and Gainwell also indicates to me the Bucs didn't really have a hard line budget. They decided to switch gears when Evans said no thanks.
That is why I reject that narrative pushed by the Pewter Report staff to protect Licht.
Who is giving him a pass? I think he is a good GM. You think he's average, I guess. Neither opinion changes the FACT reported by PR (and consistent with any reasonable observation) that the Glazers give Licht a cash budget. Every decent business runs on a budget.
Being prepared to do more restructure to bring back Evans indicates to me that Licht didn't even reach to the upper ceiling budget limit set this year.
Why didnt they restructure the other option then? they have only restrucured AS NEEDED. Budget, not Evans
If you are correct they restructure people now to sign Mayfield now
That is why I reject that narrative pushed by the Pewter Report staff
Reject it all you want.
It's factual.
Whether you like it or not.
Who is giving him a pass? I think he is a good GM. You think he's average, I guess. Neither opinion changes the FACT reported by PR (and consistent with any reasonable observation) that the Glazers give Licht a cash budget. Every decent business runs on a budget.
Being prepared to do more restructure to bring back Evans indicates to me that Licht didn't even reach to the upper ceiling budget limit set this year.
Why didnt they restructure the other option then? they have only restrucured AS NEEDED. Budget, not Evans
If you are correct they restructure people now to sign Mayfield now
The Bucs have not reached their upper ceiling or "budget" which is why the possibility of Mayfield being re signed could happen this year even if both sides are far apart now.
Licht could have done more restructures to bring in more talent but he chose to close up shop when Evans went to SF because I believe he is satisfied with what is on the roster and he did not like what was left in free agency. I just think that is a mistake and a missed opportunity to improve this roster this season.
Also, had Evans re upped with the Bucs where would have Licht found the money to re up Mayfield this year? Even a low cap number in year 1 could have been worked out but he would still need to find a way to spread out the guaranteed money.
Bottom line is the Bucs had enough in their budget to do restructures for Evans and re up Mayfield this year. This is based on what we know as FACTS and not feelings.
No that proves my point they never had a real hard line budget. NFL team don't operate on hard line budget as they can move freed cap dollars into future years or move current cap costs into future years. They can add void years to future years in contracts to generate current cap space.
Bottom line is you guys have ignored what is happening the last 5 years in the NFL and have lost touch with what is happening around the league as it is beyond what the Bucs are doing alone. The Rams are going to sign Puka to a massive extension soon and then what? They are going to cap jail again? Were they not in "cap jail" not even 1-2 season ago supposedly post SB win? Also how did they recover so fast?