Most of it was weak competition (Jets, Titans x2, Colts without Jones x2, Cardinals) but they did have 2 impressive wins over the Chargers and Broncos in that run.
In the NFL, I will never accept the "weak competition" narrative. Mainly because it doesn't exist. They went to Denver and absolutely dotted their eye. They will win more than 8 games. Obviously, they need Lawerence to stay healthy but, they are a playoff team.
so they went 5-1 in the division last year. 3-3 the year before, 4-2 the year before that. Probably reasonable to expect 4-2 out of them this year.
gimme win against Cleveland in week 1 and they are 5-2 right there which would mean at least 4-6 in the remaining 10 games
@Denver, NE, @Cincy, PHI (London),@ Baltimore, @NYG, @ CHicago, V PIttsburgh, @Dallas, V Washington
that's some tough road games. NYG, Pittsburgh and Washington as wins? Most likely but not guaranteed.
Put it this way, we will know by the bye week just how good Jacksonville performs the encore - V CLE, @DEN, V NE, @Cincy, @London/Eagles, V Houston
Could be 1-5, or 2-4....do they have a winning record in those first 6 games?
It's interesting to note that Draftkings has Liam's team for over/under wins/losses at 8.5. Doesn't seem reasonable.
I don't feel like they lost a ton and, it feels like they are better at the positions that matter now, like RB for instance.
I will take that bet.
they won 13 games last year driven by an 8 game win streak to end the year. Most of it was weak competition (Jets, Titans x2, Colts without Jones x2, Cardinals) but they did have 2 impressive wins over the Chargers and Broncos in that run.
Earlier in the year lost to Bengals, Seahawks, and Rams but beat the Texans, 49ers, and Chiefs so essentially 50/50 in the toss up games outside of the magical run
So this year, they have AFC North, Denver, New England, NFC East, and Chicago.
just appears to be a tougher schedule. Is the over still a good bet? most likely but it's not as slam dunk as you think
Jacksonville can actually be a better team and not reach the 13 wins. That's hard to do unless your a legit Super Bowl team and to me, Jaguars are a pretender....like our Bucs.
I would not bet against Coen BUT the 2025 Jags were also the second or third best team in turnover margin so they had a lot going right.
Trevor Lawrence is also a question mark. I think he was 60% completions even in Coens's QB friendly system
The other thing might be film. Its tougher and tougher to keep offensive success the more defenses have film.
All that said, I would not bet against Coen.
Either way though he 100% owns whatever results they get, good and bad, since he controls the drafting too, its his play calling etc. Maybe Lawrence is the only caveat. Excited to see how it goes.
It's interesting to note that Draftkings has Liam's team for over/under wins/losses at 8.5. Doesn't seem reasonable.
I don't feel like they lost a ton and, it feels like they are better at the positions that matter now, like RB for instance.
I will take that bet.
they won 13 games last year driven by an 8 game win streak to end the year. Most of it was weak competition (Jets, Titans x2, Colts without Jones x2, Cardinals) but they did have 2 impressive wins over the Chargers and Broncos in that run.
Earlier in the year lost to Bengals, Seahawks, and Rams but beat the Texans, 49ers, and Chiefs so essentially 50/50 in the toss up games outside of the magical run
So this year, they have AFC North, Denver, New England, NFC East, and Chicago.
just appears to be a tougher schedule. Is the over still a good bet? most likely but it's not as slam dunk as you think
Jacksonville can actually be a better team and not reach the 13 wins. That's hard to do unless your a legit Super Bowl team and to me, Jaguars are a pretender....like our Bucs.
I would not bet against Coen BUT the 2025 Jags were also the second or third best team in turnover margin so they had a lot going right.
Trevor Lawrence is also a question mark. I think he was 60% completions even in Coens's QB friendly system
The other thing might be film. Its tougher and tougher to keep offensive success the more defenses have film.
All that said, I would not bet against Coen.
Either way though he 100% owns whatever results they get, good and bad, since he controls the drafting too, its his play calling etc. Maybe Lawrence is the only caveat. Excited to see how it goes.
oh to me
under 13 wins - almost a sure thing
but the guaranteeing at least 9....yeah im not so sure
How'd Washington, Baltimore, Chiefs, Vikings, Lions do last year after all having 12+ wins the year before?
shit happens
i could see a scenario where Denver, Jacksonville, and New England all miss the playoffs this year
Surely Buffalo and Houston will be formidable again and making them division winners isn't outlandish. Could the Chiefs and Ravens return to being division winners. Can certainly see that.
How about the Bengals finally getting back to playoffs, Chargers returning to playoffs, and does Rodgers and the Steelers have one last ride?
Not suggesting it will happen but it wouldn't surprise me.
just like i can easily see Dallas, Detroit, and Bucs returning to the playoffs this year in the NFC.
Could Seattle miss the playoffs? for sure, i can see it.
Could Seattle miss the playoffs? for sure, i can see it.
I agree with this. Letting Walker walk seems less than ideal. Also, I am not as big a Michael McDonald fan (love the singer), as many are but, they won, so we shall see.
In the NFL, I will never accept the "weak competition" narrative.
Especially when that team goes 13-4.
In the NFL, I will never accept the "weak competition" narrative.
Especially when that team goes 13-4.
it was a great year for Coen. Matter of fact, he had 2 great years in a row in the NFL
Turning Baker into a top 10 QB, Bucs having a top 5 offense, all this without the Goat and future HOF littered about!
then to go to Jacksonville, Lawrence career sort of in purgatory and they rally off 8 wins in a row to end the season.
that being said, i'd take the under on Jaguars repeating on the 13 wins.
hey rally off 8 wins in a row to end the season.
If the Red Board was the Teal Board (Jags fan board) most would be taking the under based on the argument that the Jags "didnt play anyone" in those last 8 games except for the Broncos who they "only beat because of turnovers."
Maybe even throw in a "Vegas says so."
hey rally off 8 wins in a row to end the season.
If the Red Board was the Teal Board (Jags fan board) most would be taking the under based on the argument that the Jags "didnt play anyone" in those last 8 games except for the Broncos who they "only beat because of turnovers."
Maybe even throw in a "Vegas says so."
Jaguars played well all year. I was saying they were 50/50 in games earlier in the year beating teams like the 49ers, Chiefs, etc. They had 4 gimme division games, Jets, etc. in that 8 game run but we all know how gimme games to end the year may not result in wins.
If the Red Board was the Teal Board (Jags fan board) most would be taking the under based on the argument that the Jags "didnt play anyone" in those last 8 games except for the Broncos who they "only beat because of turnovers."
Maybe even throw in a "Vegas says so."
And, you would be wrong.
If anything, a large chunk of that base thinks their being “underrated”.
Thats also in between recent posts (considering last weeks PS matchup) laughing at the Bucs for choosing Bowles over Coen.
So, yeah…
