I'm gun shy on paying him but to act like last season was a bad year for him will never not be funny to me.
It's kinda comical to be honest.Â
Friendly reminder that Baker carried this team, was an MVP front runner, and beat the champs in Seattle before the injury.
I'm gun shy on paying him but to act like last season was a bad year for him will never not be funny to me.
if he had a good year, he would have been extended a couple months ago
it was such a lackluster finish that the Bucs brass is a bit gun shy as you say
Hopefully it's the "injury" as many are suggesting....but wouldn't it be great to prove that point. Â
Which unit is most to blame for the Bucs 2-4 finish against 6 teams they were favored against - scores were 20-17 (W), 24-20 (L), 29-28(L), 23-20 (L), 20-17(L) and 16-14 (W)
when asking Chat GBT, they said a common benchmark is a defense does its job if they hold opponents to under 20 points, where an offense does it's job scoring more than 21-24 points. So it looks like the offense did their job once, the defense did their job twice. In the case of 24-20, AI said "the defense allowed a manageable total" but the "offense failed to produce enough scoring drives to wins, so most analyst would lean towards blaming the offense for a 24-20 loss. Considering we also lost 23-20 and 20-17, one would suggest that falls in that bucket too
So now that we agree that offense was more to blame for collapse, lets find out who the leader of the offe....oh it's the quarterback. Chat GBT confirmed.Â
Baker deserves criticism and it's a good thing. Let him prove himself again
if he had a good year, he would have been extended a couple months ago
it was such a lackluster finish that the Bucs brass is a bit gun shy as you say
lol
Friendly reminder that Baker carried this team, was an MVP front runner, and beat the champs in Seattle before the injury.
I'm gun shy on paying him but to act like last season was a bad year for him will never not be funny to me.
if he had a good year, he would have been extended a couple months ago
it was such a lackluster finish that the Bucs brass is a bit gun shy as you say
Hopefully it's the "injury" as many are suggesting....but wouldn't it be great to prove that point. Â
Which unit is most to blame for the Bucs 2-4 finish against 6 teams they were favored against - scores were 20-17 (W), 24-20 (L), 29-28(L), 23-20 (L), 20-17(L) and 16-14 (W)
when asking Chat GBT, they said a common benchmark is a defense does its job if they hold opponents to under 20 points, where an offense does it's job scoring more than 21-24 points. So it looks like the offense did their job once, the defense did their job twice. In the case of 24-20, AI said "the defense allowed a manageable total" but the "offense failed to produce enough scoring drives to wins, so most analyst would lean towards blaming the offense for a 24-20 loss. Considering we also lost 23-20 and 20-17, one would suggest that falls in that bucket too
So now that we agree that offense was more to blame for collapse, lets find out who the leader of the offe....oh it's the quarterback. Chat GBT confirmed.Â
Baker deserves criticism and it's a good thing. Let him prove himself again
I'm a little gun shy to pay but it isn't due to last year's performance it's due to his style of play (injuries) and there being a flood of talent next year in the draft so we have leverage via supply and demand.Â
The Buccaneers announced Tuesday that Irving (shoulder) may not be fully cleared for the start of OTAs, Andrew Harbaugh of USA Today reports.
Per Auman, Irving is expected to be limited during OTAs, which will take place between late May and early June, before being fully cleared for the start of training camp in July. Presumably, he will also be limited at mandatory minicamp from June 16-18.
there being a flood of talent next year in the draft
If that "flood" includes any talk about Arch Manning being a viable NFL QB prospect than is all a load of crap. Arch is so average to below average as a college QB AND he's had EVERY advantage known to man, I just don't see what the hype is about this guy. Â
Let's stay with what we know.
Interesting rankings the last 6 games of the Season.Â
Also include the infamous last 11 games as well as full season which includes the MVP short lived run.
what's interesting is that his last 6 games often rank higher than the last 11 games in which he suffered the injury right before the last 6 games.Â
Summary: Baker's decline in play started long before the Rams game injury. His INTs were the only notable item that was worse in the final 6 games compared to the final 11.Â
Nobody is arguing that Baker was not an MVP candidate in the 5-1 start. Bucs were #1 in power rankings and the Bake Show was a national story. But he then played "Ehh" in the Bucs 1-4 stretch to follow before the "please sweet baby jesus let his regression be that injury in the Rams game" we are all banking on.
and i will admit i am wrong when the Bucs brass sign him to an extension before the season. Otherwise, they clearly are hesitant given the medicore playÂ
TD Pass Leaders
1. Trevor Lawrence - 16
2. Matthew Stafford - 15
3. Joe Burrow - 15
4. Brock Purdy - 13
5. Drake Maye - 12
15. Sam Darnold, Kirk Cousins, Baker Mayfield, Cam Ward, Geno Smith, Michael Penix Jr. - 8
*If by doing last 11 games, he would rank 18th with 14 touchdownsÂ
**If by doing the full season, he would rank 7th with 26 touchdowns.Â
INT Leaders
1. CJ Stroud - 7
2. Baker Mayfield, Brock Purdy, Caleb Williams - 6
*If by doing last 11 games, he would rank 4th with 10 INTs
**if by doing the full season, he would rank 6th with 11 INTs
Passer Rating
1. Trevor Lawrence - 109.3
2. Drake Maye - 104.2
3. Joe Burrow - 102.2
4. Brock Purdy - 101.5
5. Jared Golf - 100.8
22. Baker Mayfield - 85.6
*If by doing last 11 games, he would rank 24th with 80.6
**if by doing the full season, he would rank 18th with 90.6
Passing Yards
1. Matthew Stafford - 1,921
2. Jared Golf - 1,795
3. Caleb Williams - 1,652
4. Joe Burrow - 1,620
5. Dak Prescott - 1,611
14. Baker Mayfield - 1,287
*If by doing last 11 games, he would rank 19th with 2,154
**if by doing the full season, he would rank 10th with 3,693
Completion Percentage
1. Tyler Shough - 69.7
2. Josh Allen - 68.6
3. Geno Smith - 68.5
4. Joe Burrow - 68.2
5. Brock Purdy - 68.1
11. Baker Mayfield - 64.1
*If by doing last 11 games, he would rank 21st with 61.5
**if by doing the full season, he would rank 21st with 63.2
there being a flood of talent next year in the draft
If that "flood" includes any talk about Arch Manning being a viable NFL QB prospect than is all a load of crap. Arch is so average to below average as a college QB AND he's had EVERY advantage known to man, I just don't see what the hype is about this guy. Â
Let's stay with what we know.
I'm on board with tanking for Arch now.
there being a flood of talent next year in the draft
If that "flood" includes any talk about Arch Manning being a viable NFL QB prospect than is all a load of crap. Arch is so average to below average as a college QB AND he's had EVERY advantage known to man, I just don't see what the hype is about this guy. Â
Let's stay with what we know.
I'm on board with tanking for Arch now.
But regular season records matter, just ask Cowboys fans, and playoffs do not . . . just ask Trask supporters
The Buccaneers announced Tuesday that Irving (shoulder) may not be fully cleared for the start of OTAs, Andrew Harbaugh of USA Today reports.
Per Auman, Irving is expected to be limited during OTAs, which will take place between late May and early June, before being fully cleared for the start of training camp in July. Presumably, he will also be limited at mandatory minicamp from June 16-18.
As you all speculated this explains the cash handed out to Gainwell.
there being a flood of talent next year in the draft
If that "flood" includes any talk about Arch Manning being a viable NFL QB prospect than is all a load of crap. Arch is so average to below average as a college QB AND he's had EVERY advantage known to man, I just don't see what the hype is about this guy. Â
Let's stay with what we know.
I'm on board with tanking for Arch now.
But regular season records matter, just ask Cowboys fans, and playoffs do not . . . just ask Trask supporters
we dont know how good Arch will be but the guy clearly has good blood lines and would be the QB i'd think we'd want to pick if we had a shot at him.
i just don't see the Bucs being in a position to draft him.
At worst, the Bucs will go 6-11; if this happens, we will be drafting most likely in the top 10, a new head coach (for the love of god...be an offensive minded play caller), and free agent to be Baker whom i would assume didnt have that great of a year if we only won 6 games, and could be subject to us deciding to move in a different direction if that is the case. Would have to trade some picks in order to likely move up to 1 or 2 to nab Arch. So yeah, it's not likely, or at least not expected from Licht to do so. The Jets and Dolphins clearly tanking for Arch. It's a good thing these two teams aren't on our schedule during the back half of season where we could be banged up!Â
There it is.
Please, no.there being a flood of talent next year in the draft
If that "flood" includes any talk about Arch Manning being a viable NFL QB prospect than is all a load of crap. Arch is so average to below average as a college QB AND he's had EVERY advantage known to man, I just don't see what the hype is about this guy. Â
Let's stay with what we know.
I'm on board with tanking for Arch now.
The Jets don't seem to be in tank mode. They took Cooper and Sadiq in round 1 and signed Geno to start so they are looking at going all out. On defense Glenn went all out and aggressively signed Onyemata, Davis, Ossai, Wright and traded for Fitzpatrick and Sweat. And drafted Bailey, Darnell Jackson and Ponds.
Dolphins on the other hand have Atwell and Tolbert as the "feature" WRs. With drafted players Bell, Douglas and Coleman Jr bringing the rear. They took Proctor in round 1 and they have Malik Willis as QB1.  In fairness their defense looks to be potent with picking up Uche, drafting Moore, signing Ojabo and Kyle Lous and Rodriguez as the future LB duo with Dodson and Brooks in front of them.  They drafted Chris Johnson in round 1 so they have a lot more than one would think defensively.
If a team that tanks it will probably be a team that unexpectedly underpeforms and has a shot at Arch IMO.Â