Breer says they get it done soon and that:
"something in the range of $165 million over another three years makes sense, or a little more than that to account for inflation over the aforementioned deals."
Breer says they get it done soon and that:
"something in the range of $165 million over another three years makes sense, or a little more than that to account for inflation over the aforementioned deals."
a 3 year deal would be optimal for the Bucs; would be surprised if Baker camp agrees to that
suppose he will be 32 if he hits free agency so not sure the likelihood of a 4 year deal but if he goes and balls out this year, maybe a team including the Bucs is willing to do that?
3 year deal would be great. He isn't a true pocket QB so the idea of watching him run around at 37 or 38 and getting killed isn't something I see being successful
Breer says they get it done soon and that:
"something in the range of $165 million over another three years makes sense, or a little more than that to account for inflation over the aforementioned deals."
More likely because the Bucs like 3 year deals but that would mean that there has to be more incentives loaded in there too.
3 year deal would be great. He isn't a true pocket QB so the idea of watching him run around at 37 or 38 and getting killed isn't something I see being successful
Baker is currently 31, so a a 3 or 4 year deal would make him 34 or 35.
How many pure pocket passers are coming out of college? How many are even in the league?
College systems aren’t utilizing/developing that type of QB, and if you run into one, you’re not getting access to him with an 8-10 win season.
Don't see any options if you want to keep winning.
Especially on a team where it’s pretty clear Baker isn’t the problem. I still think it benefits the team to sign Baker to an extension now. His price won’t go down, which means we will have fewer options to sign/extend defensive players if they decide to wait.
Depends on the economics, but it’s doable.
3 year deal would be great. He isn't a true pocket QB so the idea of watching him run around at 37 or 38 and getting killed isn't something I see being successful
Baker is currently 31, so a a 3 or 4 year deal would make him 34 or 35.
How many pure pocket passers are coming out of college? How many are even in the league?
College systems aren’t utilizing/developing that type of QB, and if you run into one, you’re not getting access to him with an 8-10 win season.
Don't see any options if you want to keep winning.
Especially on a team where it’s pretty clear Baker isn’t the problem. I still think it benefits the team to sign Baker to an extension now. His price won’t go down, which means we will have fewer options to sign/extend defensive players if they decide to wait.
Depends on the economics, but it’s doable.
Hmmm why did I think he was 32? It's a good point in that age range but ultimately I think he has us over a barrel either way.
We aren't going to find a better QB and he's a fun QB to root for despite his flaws
Are the Bucs in win now mode? Because the way they conducted this off season it didn't seem so.
They were almost as passive as the Jaguars.
Are the Bucs in win now mode? Because the way they conducted this off season it didn't seem so.
They were almost as passive as the Jaguars.
Not sure they were passive by Buc standard but definitely not win now more like give Bowles what he needs to get back to playoffs
Are the Bucs in win now mode? Because the way they conducted this off season it didn't seem so.
They were almost as passive as the Jaguars.
It's the NFL, every team is in win now mode with the exception of the Cardinals and Jets.
It makes sense they'd try to re-sign him before the season starts. Maybe not wisest idea to let him go when he played very well for us after Brady left. Unless we are thinking a complete rebuild if/when Bowles inevitably fails this team..
It makes sense they'd try to re-sign him before the season starts. Maybe not wisest idea to let him go when he played very well for us after Brady left. Unless we are thinking a complete rebuild if/when Bowles inevitably fails this team..
i dont think the Bucs have any intention of letting Baker go, particularly with franchise tag at their disposal. A deal will be worked out prior to free agency.
Baker's last 8 games last year (ok ok, due to injuries and offensive line injuries) was some of the worst football of his entire career, not just his Bucs tenure.
I am of the believe that you don't reward that, let him play with a chip on his shoulder. After all, isn't that the most exciting Baker Mayfield to watch play?
Why take that away from us? What if the 8 games wasn't a fluke? Low chance you say but what if it's the new norm?
It's not like we can hang our hat on Baker's success with previous teams so why is Tampa different? We all think it is, but i certainly have hesitation. You say it was all Bowles and the defense and special teams, yadda yadda yadda but last 6 games were putrid at best by offense outside of 1 game.
i hope the Bucs stay the course and let him earn that new contract. I won't be upset if they sign him now, despite going against the right move, but you certainly have more risk in signing him now versus February
Are the Bucs in win now mode? Because the way they conducted this off season it didn't seem so.
They were almost as passive as the Jaguars.
It's the NFL, every team is in win now mode with the exception of the Cardinals and Jets.
i get your point but there's also a lot of difference between "last Winston chance" season and "just got Brady" season. Or, even better to compare "last Winston" to "run it back with Brady" 2021
It's not like we can hang our hat on Baker's success with previous teams so why is Tampa different?
I certainly get your overriding point but you make it in odd ways, logically speaking. For example the reason you might not look as much at "previous teams" is because he has had more recent success HERE, including in the season that includes the part of the season your argument rests on. So, even though you might ultimately be right it's your argument that is built on an outlier and it's even an outlier where you at least acknowledge potential outside factors
either way though I don't know thst Mayfield needs more chips on his shoulder to perform lol If anything he may need to dial it back a little
It makes sense they'd try to re-sign him before the season starts. Maybe not wisest idea to let him go when he played very well for us after Brady left. Unless we are thinking a complete rebuild if/when Bowles inevitably fails this team..
i dont think the Bucs have any intention of letting Baker go, particularly with franchise tag at their disposal. A deal will be worked out prior to free agency.
Baker's last 8 games last year (ok ok, due to injuries and offensive line injuries) was some of the worst football of his entire career, not just his Bucs tenure.
I am of the believe that you don't reward that, let him play with a chip on his shoulder. After all, isn't that the most exciting Baker Mayfield to watch play?
Why take that away from us? What if the 8 games wasn't a fluke? Low chance you say but what if it's the new norm?
It's not like we can hang our hat on Baker's success with previous teams so why is Tampa different? We all think it is, but i certainly have hesitation. You say it was all Bowles and the defense and special teams, yadda yadda yadda but last 6 games were putrid at best by offense outside of 1 game.
i hope the Bucs stay the course and let him earn that new contract. I won't be upset if they sign him now, despite going against the right move, but you certainly have more risk in signing him now versus February
I think they do it now because of how he's performed for the most part with this team. Our history has been grim with the QB play. Yes it was bad the last 8 games but I think it was more about injuries than anything else imo. I also get it's risky to sign him because of that and his recent play but I think they might feel more secure at that position to lock him up even if he's not what we think he is. Drafting and developing a QB normally takes time and we don't have our QB of the future besides him. You can have both in the future. I think it's about securing that position because we've been so bad at that for so long. Ideally he earns it and plays very well but I would get the above logic.
