it's just odd that a deadline was given of training camp and then out of another side of mouth...ahh take your time, we can figure this out in 2028!!!
oh, I took the comment to mean a) he was asked and b) he said he would play it on it, implying that it will be about $50 million then so why would the Bucs want that? Isn't part of the benefit to the Bucs of the longer deal better cap management then having him play on the tag?
franchise tag is $47M which by all accounts would be lower than what many would consider Bakers market value in a new deal (Love, Purdy, Hurts, Goff, Lawrence, etc.)
i think from a cap hit perspective it's more to the Bucs, but Baker only getting $47M by all accounts would be a disappointment in his camp, one would think given the current market value for the QBs tiered in the top 15 let's call it.
Well I would definitely need help with the contract part, but you say the part in bold above . . .so isnt that his point in the game of chicken?
The Bucs already have a big cap hit in 2026 for him and then it would be huge in 2027 because it would be the the tag (about 50K then) PLUS all the other $ from the void years as a cap hit?
He gets a huge raise and then he is a free agnet? That is a WIN to a guy whose entire career is about betting on himself
Again, I dont think it matters. I think they get a deal done, but he wouldn't be disappointed with $47-$50M in one season and then free agency.
Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence getting $55M a year, Purdy and Goff getting $53M a year, and Hurts getting $51M per year.
Yes, $47M is a bit of a discount.
i think from a cap hit perspective, it wouldn't make sense for the Bucs given the accelerated dead money from voided years. But to be honest, the franchise tag would only be used as a mechanism to prevent other teams from the negotiations, (i.e. Vikings, Steelers) and potentially buy Bucs time in negotiating the deal throughout 2027 and prior to next season.
One would think that if Bucs are performing well during this season, likely due to Baker's play, that a deal would get done in the $50-$55M range and call it a 4 year deal.
BUT.....if Bucs are not performing well, talking double digit losses, likely due to Baker's play in addition to other factors, then yeah, things could get interesting.
Being positive thinking, and my hesitation being cured by good QB play, Bucs likely re-sign Baker at some point following the end of the season for the $4 year, $220M deal.
being realistic thinking, he's closer to the 2023/2025 guy then he is the 2024 guy, things could get hairy and Bucs maybe try to offer a 2-3 year deal instead of the 4 or 5 that Baker decides.
If he's the last 8 game guy, Baker isn't on this team for the 2027 season.
I think the team tried to leverage Sam Darnold deal, and is slowly coming up from their initial “offer”. I agree that the $47 - $50 is likely where the market/tag is and will be - and likelly where Baker will end up.it's just odd that a deadline was given of training camp and then out of another side of mouth...ahh take your time, we can figure this out in 2028!!!
oh, I took the comment to mean a) he was asked and b) he said he would play it on it, implying that it will be about $50 million then so why would the Bucs want that? Isn't part of the benefit to the Bucs of the longer deal better cap management then having him play on the tag?
franchise tag is $47M which by all accounts would be lower than what many would consider Bakers market value in a new deal (Love, Purdy, Hurts, Goff, Lawrence, etc.)
i think from a cap hit perspective it's more to the Bucs, but Baker only getting $47M by all accounts would be a disappointment in his camp, one would think given the current market value for the QBs tiered in the top 15 let's call it.
Well I would definitely need help with the contract part, but you say the part in bold above . . .so isnt that his point in the game of chicken?
The Bucs already have a big cap hit in 2026 for him and then it would be huge in 2027 because it would be the the tag (about 50K then) PLUS all the other $ from the void years as a cap hit?
He gets a huge raise and then he is a free agnet? That is a WIN to a guy whose entire career is about betting on himself
Again, I dont think it matters. I think they get a deal done, but he wouldn't be disappointed with $47-$50M in one season and then free agency.
Deal structure and cap hit are real.
Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence getting $55M a year, Purdy and Goff getting $53M a year, and Hurts getting $51M per year.
Yes, $47M is a bit of a discount.
May we all be blessed with such a "discount"
My point was that its a raise for him and free agency to follow. You're talking about versus the market