kidding aside my point is that "Buccaneer Mayfield" is a $50+ APY QB because that is the market.
I thought I read he was offered $50 mil + for 2 years.
I read that as well. If Mayfield and his agent didn't even respond to that offer, just what the hell were they asking for? Seems to me they wanted a bigger APY and a longer deal. I wonder if they were hoping for 3 years at $60m APY? It remains conjecture at this juncture.
If that's what they wanted they are insane
They are looking for a long-term extension, probably in the range of 5 years @ $250M-$300M. At this point, because of how he finished the season, the Buccaneers are only interested in a short-term extension - and rightfully so. I'm fairly confident the Buccaneers offers would have been closer to his ask, if he had continued his MVP-level of play that he started the season with.
If that's what they wanted they are insane
What the Bucs offered was completely fair. Mayfield wants a longer deal and I will say, if we keep him, I would want a longer deal as well. Doing this every 24 months is getting old af. My guess is Mayfield will have a season closer to 40 TDs than 25. He is going to play chippy and his early TD production is going to be nasty.
kidding aside my point is that "Buccaneer Mayfield" is a $50+ APY QB because that is the market.
I thought I read he was offered $50 mil + for 2 years.
so for avoidance of doubt, it was not 2 years, $25m a year or $50M total. not saying you are saying that but that would be a decrease in pay
i think you are saying 2 years, $100M which adds up to what i am understanding as to what the Bucs offered. Still, to expect Baker to accept that is Ludacris given he'd be forgoing potential larger pay day.
the guy is 31 years old and this is his last pay day.
With QBs playing well into their late 30s, i would not be shocked if Baker's camp was looking more to a 5 year deal at $50M + per year
If Baker pays at a high level this year, then i think he may even get it
If he plays closer to 2023/2025, then i think honestly, 2 or 3 years is about all he will get. Probably still looking in the 50M range.
If that's what they wanted they are insane
What the Bucs offered was completely fair. Mayfield wants a longer deal and I will say, if we keep him, I would want a longer deal as well. Doing this every 24 months is getting old af. My guess is Mayfield will have a season closer to 40 TDs than 25. He is going to play chippy and his early TD production is going to be nasty.
he throws 35+ TDs again then id be all on board with the 4-5 year deal
my question to you is if he throws closer to the 25 TDs, Bucs go 8-9, miss playoffs again; what is the offer?
Still, to expect Baker to accept that is Ludacris given he'd be forgoing potential larger pay day.
Since you think the offer was so “Ludacris”…
Factoring in this season (which was guaranteed as a form of an early extension), plus 2 additional seasons at over $100M+ fully guaranteed; that would put his 2026 - 2028 seasons at right around $140-$150M fully guaranteed.
How many QB’s in the league are making that much in total guaranteed money over the same timeframe?
Still, to expect Baker to accept that is Ludacris given he'd be forgoing potential larger pay day.
Since you think the offer was so “Ludacris”…
Factoring in this season (which was guaranteed as a form of an early extension), plus 2 additional seasons at over $100M+ fully guaranteed; that would put his 2026 - 2028 seasons at right around $140-$150M fully guaranteed.
How many QB’s in the league are making that much in total guaranteed money over the same timeframe?
Baker thought it was Ludacris, no?
Still, to expect Baker to accept that is Ludacris given he'd be forgoing potential larger pay day.
Since you think the offer was so “Ludacris”…
Factoring in this season (which was guaranteed as a form of an early extension), plus 2 additional seasons at over $100M+ fully guaranteed; that would put his 2026 - 2028 seasons at right around $140-$150M fully guaranteed.
How many QB’s in the league are making that much in total guaranteed money over the same timeframe?
Baker thought it was Ludacris, no?
I don’t know if Baker thought it was Ludacris in a “Rollout” kind of way, or Ludacris in a Fast and Furious type of fashion.
Anyways, enough discussions about Philly’s always gold standard in IQ’s…
Try and the answer the question I asked.
Here it is again:
How many QB’s in the league are making that much in total guaranteed money over the same timeframe?
Baker has an argument that since he joined the bucs is a top QB in the league. His issue is his previous contract obligation to team and cap hit is set up in a way that it's smarter for the team to wait. It's also currently set up in a way where he kind of needs to prove himself again which has kind of been his mo anyway. Chip on the shoulder. Hopefully that does great things for the team.
Baker has an argument that since he joined the bucs is a top QB in the league. His issue is his previous contract obligation to team and cap hit is set up in a way that it's smarter for the team to wait. It's also currently set up in a way where he kind of needs to prove himself again which has kind of been his mo anyway. Chip on the shoulder. Hopefully that does great things for the team.
while he does have some good numbers in the last 3 years, particularly when comparing to some of the top QBs, he is also #2 in INTs during that time.
Turnovers lose games and his basically 1:1 ratio down the stretch last year was key contributor to their collapse.
Likely a big reason many don't have him in the top 10. Nick Wright, on First Things First, is a huge Baker fan, and had him #15 overall on his Mahomes Mountain ranking.
You then circle back to 2023 and 2024 seasons
Bucs were sitting at 4-7 and 4-6 respectively those years and took late season pushes to finish a mediocre 9-8, 10-7. If you look back at 2023, some of that was Bakers mid play where the offsense wasn't putting up points while 2024 i'd argue was more some of the tough competition, Bowles D (Falcons x 2, Baltimore, KC)
Stats wise, Baker's best season was in 2024. In terms of grit, and playoff success, obviously 2023. Even if the Lions loss, he tossed 3 TDs and had us competitive with a floundering defense.
he tripped over his dick in the playoffs in 2024 but then again Herbert, Allen, Prescott, and Jackson do that every playoffs.
Baker was flying high entering 2025 season and he didn't deliver, even he admits on recent Fournette podcast.
Here's hoping he rebounds in 2026.
Still, to expect Baker to accept that is Ludacris given he'd be forgoing potential larger pay day.
Since you think the offer was so “Ludacris”…
Factoring in this season (which was guaranteed as a form of an early extension), plus 2 additional seasons at over $100M+ fully guaranteed; that would put his 2026 - 2028 seasons at right around $140-$150M fully guaranteed.
How many QB’s in the league are making that much in total guaranteed money over the same timeframe?
Baker thought it was Ludacris, no?
I don’t know if Baker thought it was Ludacris in a “Rollout” kind of way, or Ludacris in a Fast and Furious type of fashion.
Anyways, enough discussions about Philly’s always gold standard in IQ’s…
Try and the answer the question I asked.
Here it is again:
How many QB’s in the league are making that much in total guaranteed money over the same timeframe?
a 2 year deal was ludacris...
he didn't even counter
Next....
If that's what they wanted they are insane
What the Bucs offered was completely fair. Mayfield wants a longer deal and I will say, if we keep him, I would want a longer deal as well. Doing this every 24 months is getting old af. My guess is Mayfield will have a season closer to 40 TDs than 25. He is going to play chippy and his early TD production is going to be nasty.
he throws 35+ TDs again then id be all on board with the 4-5 year deal
my question to you is if he throws closer to the 25 TDs, Bucs go 8-9, miss playoffs again; what is the offer?
If he throws 25 TDs and the Bucs go 8-9 the offer is to the Bengals for Joe Burrow
Unless a delal suddenly materializes, there is definitely a missing piece of the puzzle, something like Mayfield over valuing himself or the Bucs having an external factor holding them back.
I say that because there really isnt really a reliable middle ground option.
You're either letting Mayfield go to FA so you can draft a QB and have a rookie salary QB or you're paying $50+ million over the next 4 or 5 years (or more) for a competent QB. There's trash and rookies scale below Mayfield's current APY and then only Watson, Jones and Darnold before you get into the $51.
So Mayfield is asking for $60 or the B ucs offered an effective 2.5 years and he wants 4 or 5. But if they agreed on the APY and the contract term was the issue, they'd find a compromise because the pay scale is the pay scale.
So, fake "I am not talking after TC" is real, but really dumb OR the Bucs have an EXTERNAL reason that they will not do more than the reported offer of 2.5 years.
It is ludacris, but if Baker is rolling them bones, then he's got the right potion to put the Bucs into motion. They just looking for that number 1 spot so move bitch, get out the way.
Still, to expect Baker to accept that is Ludacris given he'd be forgoing potential larger pay day.
Since you think the offer was so “Ludacris”…
Factoring in this season (which was guaranteed as a form of an early extension), plus 2 additional seasons at over $100M+ fully guaranteed; that would put his 2026 - 2028 seasons at right around $140-$150M fully guaranteed.
How many QB’s in the league are making that much in total guaranteed money over the same timeframe?
Baker thought it was Ludacris, no?
I don’t know if Baker thought it was Ludacris in a “Rollout” kind of way, or Ludacris in a Fast and Furious type of fashion.
Anyways, enough discussions about Philly’s always gold standard in IQ’s…
Try and the answer the question I asked.
Here it is again:
How many QB’s in the league are making that much in total guaranteed money over the same timeframe?
a 2 year deal was ludacris...
he didn't even counter
Next....
Thats what I thought.
You won’t answer it, and there’s a reason why.
Surrender noted, Luda.
I'll answer it for him because he would be embarrassed if he did...per OvertheCap Zero NFL quarterbacks have exactly $140 million to $150 million fully guaranteed remaining on their contracts for the 2026, 2027, and 2028 seasons.
