Last year's collapse was so egregious then even a 9-8 division title and playoff loss gets Todd another year unfortunately
I am not sure about that. I think that would end it.
This is a bit out there (admittedly) but I think the Bucs are up on their lease in 2027 (I thought? Could be wrong) and looking for a BILLION in reno to RJS. You'd think they want some positive vibes soon to try to get as much of that reno $ as they can and as good a terms as they can. Maybe they are sitting on a big name coach? Big Tuna, three times the charm? Belicheck?
(kidding about those coaches, but the Glazers MO is to try to line things like this up)
our expectations and theirs are two different things
Bowles with 3 division titles. If he adds another one, move aside Jon Gruden!
given the schedule, another division title, gets him another year, as unimpressive as it is.
"Mayfield needs to PROVE he's better than one season under Coen"
NO ONE says Mayfield is 2024 ("one season under Coen") and THAT is why he should get paid in the $50 million range.
I think Mayfield and his agent do. Heck, he said he believes he is a top 10 QB...
given the schedule, another division title, gets him another year, as unimpressive as it is.
given the schedule, another division title, gets him another year, as unimpressive as it is.
Correct. If Todd wants to stay around. Tampa is a very talented team, more talented than this board will give credit to. But if Todd wins 11+ games then he'll be back if he wants to.
Also, who are the "big name" coaches they are sitting on? Outside of a goofy narrative regarding Belechick, there just aren't many known entities out there who don't have a job and the collegiate landscape is almost completely bereft of NFL type coaching right now.
Has anyone considered the possibility that if Mayfield has an average year the Bucs can re up him for a modest contract and use the rest of the money to extend Diaby, Kancey and Vea?
That is why Licht said it is a puzzle piece and honestly this is why waiting is important to see who the Bucs want to keep after 2026 season.
Has anyone considered the possibility that if Mayfield has an average year the Bucs can re up him for a modest contract and use the rest of the money to extend Diaby, Kancey and Vea?
That is why Licht said it is a puzzle piece and honestly this is why waiting is important to see who the Bucs want to keep after 2026 season.
define average
if he repeats last year, talking total body of work through all 17 games, he likely gets the 2 year offer again at $100M. Maybe, they extend to 3 years but will depend. Another losing record, Bucs might just hold fast at the 2 years.
If he performs like 2024, then he gets 5 year offer and $55M per.
if he performs like his last 11 games, the Bucs will go in a different direction.
given the schedule, another division title, gets him another year, as unimpressive as it is.
given the schedule, another division title, gets him another year, as unimpressive as it is.
Correct. If Todd wants to stay around. Tampa is a very talented team, more talented than this board will give credit to. But if Todd wins 11+ games then he'll be back if he wants to.
Also, who are the "big name" coaches they are sitting on? Outside of a goofy narrative regarding Belechick, there just aren't many known entities out there who don't have a job and the collegiate landscape is almost completely bereft of NFL type coaching right now.
11 + games will be quite the accomplishment.
it's a brutal schedule - the NFC North which old had winning records last year, the AFC North which includes perennial playoff Pittsburgh as well as top 5 QB teams in Cincy and Baltimore; the Rams, the Cowboys (in prime time), and the Chargers. The only gimme game which again who knows is the Cleveland Browns out of those 11.
the only saving grace is that the division also has a tough schedule. I wouldn't be surprised if 8 wins takes it again so 11 would be something but i think 9 wins might be all he needs
again, you never know with schedules as good teams can be bad and vice versa but at first glance....yikes
i'd bet the under on 11.
another division title, gets him another year, as unimpressive as it is
maybe you're right because a division title would mean he turned around a team that basically quit on him
maybe he will get an other extension?
"Mayfield needs to PROVE he's better than one season under Coen"
NO ONE says Mayfield is 2024 ("one season under Coen") and THAT is why he should get paid in the $50 million range.
I think Mayfield and his agent do. Heck, he said he believes he is a top 10 QB...
I never saw the part in bold, but would you want a QB who would say something else in a huge contract dicussion?
"I am not really top 10, I think maybe 12-15 . .. okay maybe 15-17"
kidding aside my point is that "Buccaneer Mayfield" is a $50+ APY QB because that is the market. And what the Bucs have reportedly offered him
Has anyone considered the possibility that if Mayfield has an average year the Bucs can re up him for a modest contract and use the rest of the money to extend Diaby, Kancey and Vea?
That is why Licht said it is a puzzle piece and honestly this is why waiting is important to see who the Bucs want to keep after 2026 season.
define average
if he repeats last year, talking total body of work through all 17 games, he likely gets the 2 year offer again at $100M. Maybe, they extend to 3 years but will depend. Another losing record, Bucs might just hold fast at the 2 years.
If he performs like 2024, then he gets 5 year offer and $55M per.
if he performs like his last 11 games, the Bucs will go in a different direction.
Mayfield's career average.
63% comp, 2:1 TD to INT ratio, 3600+ yards QB rating 90+
I mean according to his career averages Mayfield could be inline for a massive pay day or he is going to receive a normal deal. But it all hinges on if the Bucs make the playoffs and win a playoff game. So Mayfield can play an average year and still miss his big payday if the Bucs miss the playoffs or do not win round 1 of the playoffs. The flipside is win a playoff game and even with average numbers Mayfield is going to roll in the money.
I just think people are missing the point of looking at pure stats with Mayfield and that what matters with Mayfield is 1) Consistency with his play and 2) How the Bucs finish down the stretch and maybe into the playoffs
another division title, gets him another year, as unimpressive as it is
maybe you're right because a division title would mean he turned around a team that basically quit on him
maybe he will get an other extension?
the extension will hinge on whether Bowles wants to return; which i believe that statue outside the stadium could go along way to get in his good graces
Has anyone considered the possibility that if Mayfield has an average year the Bucs can re up him for a modest contract and use the rest of the money to extend Diaby, Kancey and Vea?
That is why Licht said it is a puzzle piece
If Mike MacDonald announced that he was tired of the weather so he was moving to Tampa to be the HC in 2027, Mayfield might be the only one of those 4 players he wants. Vea for age, Kancey for injury/availability and Diaby for fairly pedestrian production so far, especially relative to the cap he is about to take up.
If MacDonald stays in Seattle and the Bucs go 10 wins and into the 2nd round of the playoffs with the defense having 50 sacks then they run with Bowles through 2028 and he wants all of those players through his contract, save maybe Vea
P-U-Z-Z-L-E
and Licht still has to deal with Godwin
Has anyone considered the possibility that if Mayfield has an average year the Bucs can re up him for a modest contract and use the rest of the money to extend Diaby, Kancey and Vea?
That is why Licht said it is a puzzle piece
If Mike MacDonald announced that he was tired of the weather so he was moving to Tampa to be the HC in 2027, Mayfield might be the only one of those 4 players he wants. Vea for age, Kancey for injury/availability and Diaby for fairly pedestrian production so far, especially relative to the cap he is about to take up.
If MacDonald stays in Seattle and the Bucs go 10 wins and into the 2nd round of the playoffs with the defense having 50 sacks then they run with Bowles through 2028 and he wants all of those players through his contract, save maybe Vea
P-U-Z-Z-L-E
and Licht still has to deal with Godwin
There's a better chance that Chargers OC Mike McDaniel ends up as HC of the Bucs in 2027. Why would Seattle's HC come here?
kidding aside my point is that "Buccaneer Mayfield" is a $50+ APY QB because that is the market.
I thought I read he was offered $50 mil + for 2 years.
I read that as well. If Mayfield and his agent didn't even respond to that offer, just what the hell were they asking for? Seems to me they wanted a bigger APY and a longer deal. I wonder if they were hoping for 3 years at $60m APY? It remains conjecture at this juncture.
kidding aside my point is that "Buccaneer Mayfield" is a $50+ APY QB because that is the market.
I thought I read he was offered $50 mil + for 2 years.
I read that as well. If Mayfield and his agent didn't even respond to that offer, just what the hell were they asking for? Seems to me they wanted a bigger APY and a longer deal. I wonder if they were hoping for 3 years at $60m APY? It remains conjecture at this juncture.
If that's what they wanted they are insane
