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Barton would make a good guard, but he's not good at center. You draft centers in the 3rd round


 
Posted : Mar. 6, 2026 1:01 am
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Posted by: @gijoewasthere

Barton would make a good guard, but he's not good at center. You draft centers in the 3rd round

Humphrey was right there and we took fucking Trask 

 


 
Posted : Mar. 6, 2026 7:23 pm
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Posted by: @gijoewasthere

Barton would make a good guard, but he's not good at center. You draft centers in the 3rd round

Humphrey was right there and we took fucking Trask 

 

It was never Trask > Humphrey. Why do you keep saying that? Humphrey wasn’t available when Trask was selected. He was available when JTS was selected, but not Trask.

 


 
Posted : Mar. 6, 2026 10:20 pm
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Crosby to the Ravens. 

So, we can stop talking about that nonsense that was never going to happen. 


 
Posted : Mar. 6, 2026 10:36 pm
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Posted by: @gijoewasthere

Barton would make a good guard, but he's not good at center. You draft centers in the 3rd round

Humphrey was right there and we took fucking Trask 

 

It was never Trask > Humphrey. Why do you keep saying that? Humphrey wasn’t available when Trask was selected. He was available when JTS was selected, but not Trask.

 

A trade up to secure Humphrey would have been minimal. And before you say your usual "there's no guarantee someone would have traded their pick", there were 14 second round picks traded in the 2021 draft. Licht's 2021 draft board was a complete clusterfuck. Not only did he not secure Humphrey, he took Hainsey over Meinerz and let ARSB go 17 picks ahead of Darden in the 4th round. But this is no surpise after Spyek spilt the beans that Licht was going to select Carlos Henderson over Godwin. 

 


 
Posted : Mar. 7, 2026 8:02 am
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Posted by: @gijoewasthere

Barton would make a good guard, but he's not good at center. You draft centers in the 3rd round

Humphrey was right there and we took fucking Trask 

 

It was never Trask > Humphrey. Why do you keep saying that? Humphrey wasn’t available when Trask was selected. He was available when JTS was selected, but not Trask.

 

A trade up to secure Humphrey would have been minimal. And before you say your usual "there's no guarantee someone would have traded their pick", there were 14 second round picks traded in the 2021 draft. Licht's 2021 draft board was a complete clusterfuck. Not only did he not secure Humphrey, he took Hainsey over Meinerz and let ARSB go 17 picks ahead of Darden in the 4th round. But this is no surpise after Spyek spilt the beans that Licht was going to select Carlos Henderson over Godwin. 

 

There’s no guarantee someone would have traded their pick.

Speculating on trades that didn’t happen is Maddenish. They should have selected Humphrey with their first pick. That is the correct and accurate criticism.

 


 
Posted : Mar. 7, 2026 9:57 am
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Pick 26, that's a late first round. I have no problems drafting a quality player on the OL that late. Barton is an excellent athlete and a good football player who can literally play every position if needed. Guy did a tremendous job playing LT even though he looked awkward and out of position. Then we asked him to play inside and he looked very rusty. 

 

He was brilliant his rookie year and had a weird sophomore year. He is far from a concern at this point, at least he doesn't miss games and offers versatility.

The Logan Hall pick, Kancey being always hurt, etc..are bigger issues


 
Posted : Mar. 9, 2026 11:49 am
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Pick 26, that's a late first round. I have no problems drafting a quality player on the OL that late. Barton is an excellent athlete and a good football player who can literally play every position if needed. Guy did a tremendous job playing LT even though he looked awkward and out of position. Then we asked him to play inside and he looked very rusty. 

 

He was brilliant his rookie year and had a weird sophomore year. He is far from a concern at this point, at least he doesn't miss games and offers versatility.

The Logan Hall pick, Kancey being always hurt, etc..are bigger issues

What games are you people watching?

 


 
Posted : Mar. 9, 2026 12:41 pm
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He was brilliant his rookie year and had a weird sophomore year.

He has never been brilliant. Arguably played his best football one game at LT. 

He's an inside OL... But that's where he has struggled the most and he certainly isn't a natural snapping the ball.

Third year will be huge.

I say swap Breadson and Barton G<->C


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Posted : Mar. 9, 2026 1:00 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2026

I say swap Breadson and Barton G<->C

Bredeson is so bad. Horrible decision to retain him. 


 
Posted : Mar. 9, 2026 1:03 pm
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Pick 26, that's a late first round. I have no problems drafting a quality player on the OL that late. Barton is an excellent athlete and a good football player who can literally play every position if needed. Guy did a tremendous job playing LT even though he looked awkward and out of position. Then we asked him to play inside and he looked very rusty. 

 

He was brilliant his rookie year and had a weird sophomore year. He is far from a concern at this point, at least he doesn't miss games and offers versatility.

The Logan Hall pick, Kancey being always hurt, etc..are bigger issues

What games are you people watching?

 

The games where Sean Tucker doesn't mind us of Emmitt Smith.

 

Posted by: @firebowles2026

He has never been brilliant. Arguably played his best football one game at LT. 

This simply isn't true.

You and the Red Board GM had your opportunities to give his losing plays over the last four or five games of the season. Neither of you were able to step up to the plate. He played very well, despite the two shitbirds playing beside him. I'm still game. Give me the Game, Quarter, and Timestamp.

 


 
Posted : Mar. 9, 2026 1:40 pm
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Just imagine if we took Humphreys back in 21 instead of that bust Joe Tryon or traded up a couple spots in RD 2 to grab him before the Chiefs did instead of him drafting another bust in Brady's suppose heir apparent Kyle Trask.  Since 2020 Licht has drafted zero pro bowlers and signed 1 in Baker yet there are ppl on this site who will die on the hill he is a top 5 GM


 
Posted : Mar. 9, 2026 5:45 pm
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Posted by: @jc5100

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Pick 26, that's a late first round. I have no problems drafting a quality player on the OL that late. Barton is an excellent athlete and a good football player who can literally play every position if needed. Guy did a tremendous job playing LT even though he looked awkward and out of position. Then we asked him to play inside and he looked very rusty. 

 

He was brilliant his rookie year and had a weird sophomore year. He is far from a concern at this point, at least he doesn't miss games and offers versatility.

The Logan Hall pick, Kancey being always hurt, etc..are bigger issues

What games are you people watching?

 

The games were we were able to rush for 100+ yards on the ground. The games were he was pushing guys around, climbing to the second level, pulling and being a force as a run blocker. Doing things Hainsley could dream of. What were you watching? 

 


 
Posted : Mar. 10, 2026 12:56 pm
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He was brilliant his rookie year and had a weird sophomore year.

He has never been brilliant. Arguably played his best football one game at LT. 

He's an inside OL... But that's where he has struggled the most and he certainly isn't a natural snapping the ball.

Third year will be huge.

I say swap Breadson and Barton G<->C

Brilliant might be a stretch. But, I'd say he was good for a rookie. Wirfs was brilliant his rookie year, and it'd be unfair to say Barton was on that level. Still a good player that is still learning the position and made a few mistakes. He has some small nuances to clean up in pass protection but other then that we are looking at a long-term starter here pro bowl talent. 

 

 


 
Posted : Mar. 10, 2026 12:58 pm
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Pick 26, that's a late first round. I have no problems drafting a quality player on the OL that late. Barton is an excellent athlete and a good football player who can literally play every position if needed. Guy did a tremendous job playing LT even though he looked awkward and out of position. Then we asked him to play inside and he looked very rusty. 

 

He was brilliant his rookie year and had a weird sophomore year. He is far from a concern at this point, at least he doesn't miss games and offers versatility.

The Logan Hall pick, Kancey being always hurt, etc..are bigger issues

What games are you people watching?

 

The games were we were able to rush for 100+ yards on the ground. The games were he was pushing guys around, climbing to the second level, pulling and being a force as a run blocker. Doing things Hainsley could dream of. What were you watching? 

 

When Barton missed a game the Bucs ran for 277 yards. Checkmate to everything you just posted. 

 


 
Posted : Mar. 10, 2026 1:04 pm
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