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Posted by: @firebowles2026

Year 3 is the best assessment of a QB imo

Yep. Definitely have to see how the QB adjusts when the defenses have film. 


 
Posted : Jul. 20, 2026 11:11 am
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Posted by: @theknees

The Chargers are underachieving. 

Until they address the talent around Herbert, they are actually overachieving. Their OL is not good.

 


 
Posted : Jul. 20, 2026 11:53 am
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Posted by: @theknees

The Chargers are underachieving. 

Until they address the talent around Herbert, they are actually overachieving. Their OL is not good.

 

Yeah, they were hit hard with injuries to their two stud OT's last season, but they have a pretty good OL if they can stay on the field in Slater, Alt, Strange, Strange, Slaughter, & Biadasz. Three of those dudes are first rounders, with Slaughter a second, and Biadasz a fourth. They have put resources into the OL in San Diego.

Combine that with Mike McDaniel (who brought Alec Ingold, which will help the OL and offense as a whole) as the new playcaller and their offense should be pretty good.

 


 
Posted : Jul. 20, 2026 12:00 pm
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Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @theknees

The Chargers are underachieving. 

Until they address the talent around Herbert, they are actually overachieving. Their OL is not good.

 

Yeah, they were hit hard with injuries to their two stud OT's last season, but they have a pretty good OL if they can stay on the field in Slater, Alt, Strange, Strange, Slaughter, & Biadasz. Three of those dudes are first rounders, with Slaughter a second, and Biadasz a fourth. They have put resources into the OL in San Diego.

Combine that with Mike McDaniel (who brought Alec Ingold, which will help the OL and offense as a whole) as the new playcaller and their offense should be pretty good.

 

I put 200 on them making the afc championship game. They're kinda "due" for a healthy season 

 


 
Posted : Jul. 20, 2026 4:42 pm
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Posted by: @theknees

I think Daniels has the brain and ability to be a very good QB.  My only concern is, and it’s a big one, can he shield that slight body type from year after year injuries.  Lamar is different as he has a bit of a build.  Daniels is just so slight in the legs and arms.  I like him and his game but not sure he can stay on the field. 

And he won't fill out... He was in college for 5 or 6 years so he's just about at muscle maturity. Maybe he can add 15 

 


 
Posted : Jul. 20, 2026 4:44 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @theknees

The Chargers are underachieving. 

Until they address the talent around Herbert, they are actually overachieving. Their OL is not good.

 

Yeah, they were hit hard with injuries to their two stud OT's last season, but they have a pretty good OL if they can stay on the field in Slater, Alt, Strange, Strange, Slaughter, & Biadasz. Three of those dudes are first rounders, with Slaughter a second, and Biadasz a fourth. They have put resources into the OL in San Diego.

Combine that with Mike McDaniel (who brought Alec Ingold, which will help the OL and offense as a whole) as the new playcaller and their offense should be pretty good.

 

I put 200 on them making the afc championship game. They're kinda "due" for a healthy season 

 

With Mike McDaniel as well, one would think Justin Herbert would excel 

Would you start to get concerned if team is relatively healthy, with good OC, and he still lays an egg in playoffs?

 


 
Posted : Jul. 21, 2026 10:22 am
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Would you start to get concerned if team is relatively healthy, with good OC, and he still lays an egg in playoffs?

Yes, and deservedly so.

 


 
Posted : Jul. 21, 2026 10:45 am
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @theknees

The Chargers are underachieving. 

Until they address the talent around Herbert, they are actually overachieving. Their OL is not good.

 

Yeah, they were hit hard with injuries to their two stud OT's last season, but they have a pretty good OL if they can stay on the field in Slater, Alt, Strange, Strange, Slaughter, & Biadasz. Three of those dudes are first rounders, with Slaughter a second, and Biadasz a fourth. They have put resources into the OL in San Diego.

Combine that with Mike McDaniel (who brought Alec Ingold, which will help the OL and offense as a whole) as the new playcaller and their offense should be pretty good.

 

I put 200 on them making the afc championship game. They're kinda "due" for a healthy season 

 

With Mike McDaniel as well, one would think Justin Herbert would excel 

Would you start to get concerned if team is relatively healthy, with good OC, and he still lays an egg in playoffs?

 

He's gotta get the W for sure but that collapse vs the Jags was a function of absolute ass coaching to not lose. Reminded me of Bowles.

He keeps getting a team that limps into the playoffs with injuries then goes against a good/elite defense like Texans or Patriots last year etc.

At some point the excuses have to end just like with Jackson or any QB. The greats find a way to wins. The good ones that aren't great need the team to help them find success. 

 


 
Posted : Jul. 21, 2026 12:55 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @theknees

The Chargers are underachieving. 

Until they address the talent around Herbert, they are actually overachieving. Their OL is not good.

 

Yeah, they were hit hard with injuries to their two stud OT's last season, but they have a pretty good OL if they can stay on the field in Slater, Alt, Strange, Strange, Slaughter, & Biadasz. Three of those dudes are first rounders, with Slaughter a second, and Biadasz a fourth. They have put resources into the OL in San Diego.

Combine that with Mike McDaniel (who brought Alec Ingold, which will help the OL and offense as a whole) as the new playcaller and their offense should be pretty good.

 

I put 200 on them making the afc championship game. They're kinda "due" for a healthy season 

 

With Mike McDaniel as well, one would think Justin Herbert would excel 

Would you start to get concerned if team is relatively healthy, with good OC, and he still lays an egg in playoffs?

 

He's gotta get the W for sure but that collapse vs the Jags was a function of absolute ass coaching to not lose. Reminded me of Bowles.

He keeps getting a team that limps into the playoffs with injuries then goes against a good/elite defense like Texans or Patriots last year etc.

At some point the excuses have to end just like with Jackson or any QB. The greats find a way to wins. The good ones that aren't great need the team to help them find success. 

 

Peyton Manning struggled early in playoffs too...

1999 - L 16-19 to Titans

2000 - L 23-17 to Dolphins

2002 - L 41-0 to Jets

so it was similar until he finally was able to win some games, only to lose to Patriots until 2006 SB run. 

 


 
Posted : Jul. 21, 2026 1:00 pm
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Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @theknees

The Chargers are underachieving. 

Until they address the talent around Herbert, they are actually overachieving. Their OL is not good.

 

Yeah, they were hit hard with injuries to their two stud OT's last season, but they have a pretty good OL if they can stay on the field in Slater, Alt, Strange, Strange, Slaughter, & Biadasz. Three of those dudes are first rounders, with Slaughter a second, and Biadasz a fourth. They have put resources into the OL in San Diego.

Combine that with Mike McDaniel (who brought Alec Ingold, which will help the OL and offense as a whole) as the new playcaller and their offense should be pretty good.

 

I put 200 on them making the afc championship game. They're kinda "due" for a healthy season 

 

With Mike McDaniel as well, one would think Justin Herbert would excel 

Would you start to get concerned if team is relatively healthy, with good OC, and he still lays an egg in playoffs?

 

He's gotta get the W for sure but that collapse vs the Jags was a function of absolute ass coaching to not lose. Reminded me of Bowles.

He keeps getting a team that limps into the playoffs with injuries then goes against a good/elite defense like Texans or Patriots last year etc.

At some point the excuses have to end just like with Jackson or any QB. The greats find a way to wins. The good ones that aren't great need the team to help them find success. 

 

Peyton Manning struggled early in playoffs too...

1999 - L 16-19 to Titans

2000 - L 23-17 to Dolphins

2002 - L 41-0 to Jets

so it was similar until he finally was able to win some games, only to lose to Patriots until 2006 SB run. 

 

Peyton's playoff record isn't really that great. He won it once in his prime and once as a game manager.

Which is why he isn't considered a top 3 QB all time by *some*.

I put him top 5 but his accolades are regular season heavy

 

 


 
Posted : Jul. 21, 2026 1:59 pm
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Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @theknees

The Chargers are underachieving. 

Until they address the talent around Herbert, they are actually overachieving. Their OL is not good.

 

Yeah, they were hit hard with injuries to their two stud OT's last season, but they have a pretty good OL if they can stay on the field in Slater, Alt, Strange, Strange, Slaughter, & Biadasz. Three of those dudes are first rounders, with Slaughter a second, and Biadasz a fourth. They have put resources into the OL in San Diego.

Combine that with Mike McDaniel (who brought Alec Ingold, which will help the OL and offense as a whole) as the new playcaller and their offense should be pretty good.

 

I put 200 on them making the afc championship game. They're kinda "due" for a healthy season 

 

With Mike McDaniel as well, one would think Justin Herbert would excel 

Would you start to get concerned if team is relatively healthy, with good OC, and he still lays an egg in playoffs?

 

He's gotta get the W for sure but that collapse vs the Jags was a function of absolute ass coaching to not lose. Reminded me of Bowles.

He keeps getting a team that limps into the playoffs with injuries then goes against a good/elite defense like Texans or Patriots last year etc.

At some point the excuses have to end just like with Jackson or any QB. The greats find a way to wins. The good ones that aren't great need the team to help them find success. 

 

Peyton Manning struggled early in playoffs too...

1999 - L 16-19 to Titans

2000 - L 23-17 to Dolphins

2002 - L 41-0 to Jets

so it was similar until he finally was able to win some games, only to lose to Patriots until 2006 SB run. 

 

Peyton's playoff record isn't really that great. He won it once in his prime and once as a game manager.

Which is why he isn't considered a top 3 QB all time by *some*.

I put him top 5 but his accolades are regular season heavy

 

 

i'd say Peyton is on the Mount Rushmore along with Brady, Montana, and Mahomes.

 

Pretty remarkable what Marino did during his era but with no Superbowl gotta put him at #5 maybe.

maybe im disrespecting Johnny Unitas and otto Graham but it is what it is...they might as well be Christopher Columbus

Elway, Rodgers, and Brees also in the top 10 but not my top 5.  

 


 
Posted : Jul. 24, 2026 9:18 am
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Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @badabingbucs

Posted by: @firebowles2026

Posted by: @biggs3535

Posted by: @kermit56

Posted by: @theknees

The Chargers are underachieving. 

Until they address the talent around Herbert, they are actually overachieving. Their OL is not good.

 

Yeah, they were hit hard with injuries to their two stud OT's last season, but they have a pretty good OL if they can stay on the field in Slater, Alt, Strange, Strange, Slaughter, & Biadasz. Three of those dudes are first rounders, with Slaughter a second, and Biadasz a fourth. They have put resources into the OL in San Diego.

Combine that with Mike McDaniel (who brought Alec Ingold, which will help the OL and offense as a whole) as the new playcaller and their offense should be pretty good.

 

I put 200 on them making the afc championship game. They're kinda "due" for a healthy season 

 

With Mike McDaniel as well, one would think Justin Herbert would excel 

Would you start to get concerned if team is relatively healthy, with good OC, and he still lays an egg in playoffs?

 

He's gotta get the W for sure but that collapse vs the Jags was a function of absolute ass coaching to not lose. Reminded me of Bowles.

He keeps getting a team that limps into the playoffs with injuries then goes against a good/elite defense like Texans or Patriots last year etc.

At some point the excuses have to end just like with Jackson or any QB. The greats find a way to wins. The good ones that aren't great need the team to help them find success. 

 

Peyton Manning struggled early in playoffs too...

1999 - L 16-19 to Titans

2000 - L 23-17 to Dolphins

2002 - L 41-0 to Jets

so it was similar until he finally was able to win some games, only to lose to Patriots until 2006 SB run. 

 

Peyton's playoff record isn't really that great. He won it once in his prime and once as a game manager.

Which is why he isn't considered a top 3 QB all time by *some*.

I put him top 5 but his accolades are regular season heavy

 

 

 

Peyton is still on the Mt Rushmore though because the Colts offenses were top level and basically because of him, meaning the offenses were fairly simple and even a limited play set, but it succeeded because of its pace and his audibles at the line. He was sort of a coach in the huddle.

I am not a Colts fan or Vols fan lol, just giving him his due.

 


 
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