That spin move he put on Publix's finest was a thing of beauty.David Walker will take starter reps away from YaYa because I think Walker is much bette
Bowles talks about Walker like he's a good pass rusher who cant be relied upon to do more than pass rush, so that might limit how much he takes away from Diaby. Basee don last night Walker is clearly a good pass rusher. And anyone opposite of Bain is likely to pick up sacks
Agreed. And Bains hump move early.
Easy to get very optimistic about the D-line. Have to hold back though until we see them against "NFL's Finest" instead of Publix, Food Lion etc.
Overpaying for average players is how you stay in purgatory.
Good teams maximize the comp pick formula.
This would be a fascinating topic on its own if you take out "average" to set up your argument to win
I think two Bucs players you put in that category are Otton and Diaby, so in your argument you would let Otton and Diaby go rather than pay them $10 million and say $27 million, respectively? And you would do that for their comp picks?
I dont really follow the calculation of the picks, so I may be wrong here, but wouldn't that mean that at best we would get somewhere between a 3rd and a 7th for each, assuming we didnt sign a bunch of FAs ourselves?
I see where that would be potentially advantageous from a cap standpoint. Trading a big second contract for a drafted player, but wouldn't you have to bring some FA in also? I doubt there is a 3rd through 7th pick who would be statistically expected to outperform an experienced Otton and/or Diaby? Or, at least its pretty rare. Aren't Otton and Diaby are both guys meeting or exceeding their most likely draft outcome given when they were picked? Long terms starter rates:
"1st Round: ~45% to 50% chance
- 2nd Round: ~33% chance
- 3rd Round: ~16% chance
- 4th Round: ~8% chance
- 5th through 7th Rounds: 1% to 4% chance"
Maybe you mean accumulate the comp picks to move up or something? Thats would be a pretty slow play though.
Anyway, its interesting as a concept.
so in your argument you would let Otton and Diaby go rather than pay them $10 million and say $27 million, respectively? And you would do that for their comp picks?
No, I’d let Diaby go because he’s not worth $27M per.
Overpaying for average players is how you stay in purgatory.
Good teams maximize the comp pick formula.
This would be a fascinating topic on its own if you take out "average" to set up your argument to win
I think two Bucs players you put in that category are Otton and Diaby, so in your argument you would let Otton and Diaby go rather than pay them $10 million and say $27 million, respectively? And you would do that for their comp picks?
I dont really follow the calculation of the picks, so I may be wrong here, but wouldn't that mean that at best we would get somewhere between a 3rd and a 7th for each, assuming we didnt sign a bunch of FAs ourselves?
I see where that would be potentially advantageous from a cap standpoint. Trading a big second contract for a drafted player, but wouldn't you have to bring some FA in also? I doubt there is a 3rd through 7th pick who would be statistically expected to outperform an experienced Otton and/or Diaby? Or, at least its pretty rare. Aren't Otton and Diaby are both guys meeting or exceeding their most likely draft outcome given when they were picked? Long terms starter rates:
"1st Round: ~45% to 50% chance
- 2nd Round: ~33% chance
- 3rd Round: ~16% chance
- 4th Round: ~8% chance
- 5th through 7th Rounds: 1% to 4% chance"
Maybe you mean accumulate the comp picks to move up or something? Thats would be a pretty slow play though.
Anyway, its interesting as a concept.
It's not just 1 for 1. Having an extra third because a team chooses to overpay Diaby gives us the ability to also trade up. Which could be the difference between a perennial all-pro in Humphrey and a QB that's not in the league after 2.5 years.
It comes down to what Diaby demands. Otton might only be slightly overpaid but if someone gave him the same (are presumably a slightly higher) contract then that would probably give us a 4th or 5th round pick.
The problem of course in this strategy is Bowles hasn't created a system where players look better than they really are... Like what Belichik did in NE where players leave and they fall off a cliff.
So the strategy might be worthless with Bowles.
For example Bowles could have maximized and developed Devin White then someone gives him a huge contract and it's a win/win.
It's all odds at this point and it really depends on what Diaby does this year. There's the stats and there's the performance. Hopefully he shows us a big leap and we will want to keep him... But if it's more of the same I'd be fine letting someone massively overpay and grab a comp pick.
It all just depends
