FAB 2. Bucs’ O-Line Needs Changes

Take a look at the big lead picture above. The one where Bucs quarterback Jameis Winston is getting pressured by Saints defensive end Cameron Jordan and left tackle Donovan Smith looks like he has Winston in a choke hold.

Smith is doing his job – he’s trying to keep Winston upright. It’s just a funny way of doing it, especially for a guy in a contract year that isn’t playing his best football. Yet Smith is about to be paid. Either the Bucs’ front office is going to sign him to a contract extension worth about $13 million per season, or use the franchise tag on Smith for one year that would pay him around $14 million.

Bucs LT Donovan Smith
Bucs LT Donovan Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

In a previous SR’s Fab 5, I have suggested that the Bucs not extend Smith because he hasn’t played well in his contract year. The team was leaning towards a long-term extension around the middle of the season, but Smith’s recent play against Carolina and New Orleans has given the Bucs some pause. I think he gets franchised because despite his faults – a penchant for getting beat due to poor technique or effort a handful of times per game – he is by far the best offensive tackle that will be available in free agency, and there isn’t a great crop of left tackles in the upcoming draft. Some other team would pay Smith $13 million per year if he were to hit free agency, and his play – he’s given up a career-high 5.5 sacks, according to Stats, Inc. – seems to suggest he knows it.

The Big Takeaway
Smith’s play this year is not the only issue along Tampa Bay’s offensive line. The Bucs have some issues upfront, especially on the right side of the offensive line, and the problem may stem from the offensive line coach and running game coordinator, George Warhop. Guard Ali Marpet did receive a contract extension worth $10.825 million and he’s deserved it as he has been Tampa Bay’s best and most consistent offensive linemen by far. Marpet is the least of the Bucs’ worries.

The biggest problem has been at right guard where Caleb Benenoch has been a turnstile, giving up a team-high eight sacks and drawing four holding penalties and two false starts. Benenoch was rotating earlier in the year with Evan Smith, who was getting about one quarter of the snaps before he landed on injured reserve. Now rookie Alex Cappa, a third-round pick who was a sack waiting to happen in training camp and the preseason, is getting a series or two per game to aid in his transition from playing left tackle at Humboldt State to guard in the NFL. It’s been a difficult adjustment for Cappa so far.

Bucs RT Demar Dotson
Bucs RT Demar Dotson – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

At right tackle, Demar Dotson got off to a hot start last year before a knee injured prematurely ended his 2017 campaign. At age 33, Dotson hasn’t returned to last year’s pre-injury form and there’s no guarantee that he will next year at age 34. Dotson hasn’t played as well this year as he typically has, and the best in-house replacement for him is currently reserve Leonard Wester, who hasn’t proven yet that he has the capability to be an NFL starter.

Benenoch, who was a right tackle at UCLA before leaving after his junior season, filled in admirably for Dotson last year after getting a few starts at left guard as a rookie in 2016. It appears to this untrained eye that Benenoch is a better tackle than he is a guard, and the fact that he is the best the Bucs have right now at right guard – better than Cappa or veteran reserve Michael Liedtke – is borderline criminal.

I probed Bucs head coach Dirk Koetter on Benenoch’s play during Thursday’s press conference.

The Tweets You’ve Got To See

After my question and a follow-up from The Tampa Bay Times’ Rick Stroud, Koetter then went on the defensive about his offensive line, lamenting that he has to play the players he has on the roster at this point in the season – essentially, warts and all.

Koetter is right in suggesting that the offensive line gets credit for being in the Top 10 of seven NFL offensive categories, including total offense (first, 430.1 ypg), passing offense (331.4 ypg) and scoring offense (10th, 25.5 avg.). That’s true, but the offensive line is also part of a 5-8 record this year, has surrendered 36 sacks, which ranks 16th in the league, but the O-line has also allowed 94 quarterback hits, which is the fourth-most in the NFL.

Bucs OL coach George Warhop
Bucs OL coach George Warhop – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

I spent FAB 1 documenting how poorly the Bucs run the ball, ranking last in adjusted rushing total after removing the quarterback runs – most of which are scrambles on called pass plays that occur when protection breaks down. That’s on the offensive line, too. This unit struggles with zone blocking and on toss plays. Yet Warhop, who is the run game coordinator in addition to being the O-line coach, keeps calling those plays despite the fact they rarely work.

While Dotson has been a starter for nearly a decade and Marpet and Smith have been starting since their rookie year in 2015, the one constant when it comes to the offensive line is Warhop, who has presided over this underachieving unit for the past five years. While not every lineman that general manager Jason Licht is going to serve up via the draft and free agency is going to be a hit, Licht has given Warhop six linemen over the past five drafts, and five veterans through free agency and trades to work with in addition to re-signing Dotson, who has been a mainstay at right tackle.

Six O-Line Draft Picks

G Kadeem Edwards – 5th round, 2014
OT Kevin Pamphile – 5th round, 2014
OT Donovan Smith – 2nd round, 2015
G Ali Marpet – 2nd round, 2015
OT Caleb Benenoch – 5th round, 2016
OT Alex Cappa – 3rd round, 2018

Notable Veteran Additions
C Evan Smith, 2014, acquired via free agency
LT Anthony Collins, 2014, acquired via free agency
G Logan Mankins, 2014, acquired via trade
G J.R. Sweezy, 2016, acquired via free agency
RT Demar Dotson, 2016, re-signed
C Ryan Jensen, 2018, acquired via free agency

Mankins, who was a Pro Bowler in 2015, and Marpet have been the best, with Donovan Smith, Evan Smith and Jensen, whom Licht made the highest-paid center this offseason, being quality linemen. Edwards and Collins were immediate busts. Edwards couldn’t play in the NFL and Collins was a turd who simply collected a check. I’m not faulting Warhop for those players, nor is it his fault or Licht’s fault that Sweezy suffered a serious back injury that required surgery and essentially a two-year recovery period.

Bucs RG Caleb Benenoch
Bucs RG Caleb Benenoch – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

But the fact that Benenoch is playing out of position – I don’t think he’s built to play guard – and hasn’t developed, nor has Cappa and Pamphile before them, falls on the tutelage of Warhop in my opinion. The fact that Jensen and Donovan Smith are not playing up to their full potential, especially Smith in a contract year, is on the players, but also Warhop, whose duty it is to develop young linemen.

The FABulous ending
The Buccaneers seem poised to use the franchise tag on Smith, which will mean that Tampa Bay will have three of the highest-paid offensive linemen in the league in 2019 with he, Marpet and Jensen – and only one of them playing like it. That would be Marpet.

There will be some sort of change in Tampa Bay regarding the coaching staff this offseason, and it may be a complete overhaul of the staff and perhaps the front office. That’s needed, as Warhop should be replaced. He’s had five years to turn the offensive line into a team strength and hasn’t done it. It’s time to see if the Bucs’ young offensive linemen can reach their potential and new heights with a new offensive line coach in 2019.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 25th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]
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Pete Wood

The Bucs have a lot of issues to address. Head coach is not one of them. Keep Koetter. Bucs have had eleven coaches in their history. Here are the top three for winning percentage. Dungy 56% Gruden 51% Koetter 42% Yep, you read that right. Nobody else is even close. Here’s something else to ponder. Since firing Dungy, the winning percentage of every new hire has gone down. Morris 35%, Schiano 34%, Smith 25%. Koetter is the first new hire to be an improvement over the previous coach since Dungy. Y’all, I’m the voice in the wilderness, but Koetter is… Read more »

MudManVA

You are in the minority my friend, and the yellers & the screamers are getting ready to troll your ass.

I however lean on your side, but there would have to be coaching changes under Koetter. Special teams, OL coaches are starting points. 1 more year to give him 4 years to turn this team with the wind. This team fights & plays hard for him, and that does mean something.

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BucRy

Teams playing hard and fighting for koetter was a great thing to see last year, but it’s the same this year with the results being the same..losses. I don’t care that the team “fights” hard for koetter if we don’t get the wins.

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BucWonder

I agree with you Pete, but you’re not going find many fans here that will. Another well reasoned post, but it doesn’t fit the current scorched earth opinions held by many posters.

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Devasher

Asking the current regime which has missed the playoffs for 5 straight years, who’s been below .500 in all but one year is not a reasoned post. If you hire someone to build a house and 5 years later it’s still not close to completion do you keep throwing money at the same people hoping eventually they’ll get it done? The Browns have been bad because they have had an incredible track record of missing at QB. Since they came back into existence in 1999 the only QB from Cleveland to make the Pro Bowl is Derek Anderson in 2007.… Read more »

BucWonder

I like your contractor analogy Devasher. I disagree that we’re not close to completion though. I think we are closer than many fans realize. Our Dline was rebuilt in one season. Focus on Oline this off season, get a fast RB, and some secondary help and this team is very competitive. The roof is on the house and it’s dried in. There is no need to fire everyone and have a new contractor start over with a slab.

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Pete Wood

The way I see it, the Bucs house is three quarters finished. All the necessary permits and inspections have been done. The current contractor says he’ll finish it in a few months. A new contractor says he can do a better job, but he doesn’t want to work with the existing structure. He wants to tear down the entire house, get all new permits, use his own sub contractors and materials and start from scratch. He says he’ll have the house finished in two years, maybe three, possibly four. But, he guarantees it will be a much better house. Oh,… Read more »

Ron Potter

Can we find a new contractor who says he can finish the job with the structure we have?

You know, like we did with Jon Gruden back in the day.

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BucWonder

Gruden is currently busy tearing the Raider house down to the slab.

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wnb0395

I agree with Pete also. No good has ever come from a constantly changing coaches every couple years. Look at the Browns. Since letting Belichick go the Browns haven’t kept a coach longer than 3 years. there is def a correlation there. Every time we change coaches it sets us back 2-3 years. Koetter has shown improvement even though our record doesn’t show it. We now have a top offense and our defense is starting to play ok. With a couple additions to the oline and secondary we will be a playoff team next year. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit… Read more »

JohnGaltsGhost

I am leaning a little (but very little) that way. One reason is the 2019 draft and the QB situation. If we blow the whole thing up we might as well blow up the roster too in particular at quarterback. The problem is this year’s draft class is horrible at quarterback. So why not give Winston his option year to prove himself and the coaching staff one more season. If they fail they’re gone next year and Winston’s gone next year and the new regime and try to get Tua, Herburt, or Fromm etc. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00… Read more »

Devasher

2005 1st overall pick Alex Smith was almost cemented as a bust until Jim Harbaugh came on in 2011. Smith has made 3 Pro Bowls, led the NFL in passer rating in 2017 and had a winning record every season since. 2016 1st overall pick Jared Goff was essentially unplayable his rookie year under Jeff Fisher. Since Sean McVay came into LA Goff has had two seasons of 100+ QB Ratings and last week notwithstanding looks like one of the top young QB’s in the league. 2018 1st overall pick Baker Mayfield has had a significant improvement in play in… Read more »

BucRy

I, for the life of me, fail to see any great coaching quality from koetter..all you supporting koetter really confuses the hell out of me. What is everyone seeing? Cause from every year he has been here all I’ve seen is failure..failure to progress as a team and get better under the coaches…I was on the koetter train last year for him to come back, thought he needed just one more year and that he would correct his mistakes..but none of those have happened! He still plays conservatively to win the game when we have the lead, he obviously was… Read more »

MudManVA

Scott- If you’re the GM how do you play the draft? Assume you use the tag on Smith, who do you select? Your absolute needs are: RG, CB Your roster issues are: RT – getting old & on downside LT – Is going to cost you big time, and his play isn’t anywhere near his price tag. RB – Barber is all heart, but uber talented. Jones?! This team needs a bell cow. DT – McCoy is starting to disappear & aging S – Are the nuts & bolts you have on the roster good enough going forward. Draft Notes:… Read more »

surferdudes

Scott putting the blame for our poor O line play squarely on Warhop is ridiculous. Is he a good coach? Hell no, but it’s the responsibility of the G.M., and H.C. to upgrade players, and coaches who are failing. The real blame lies with Koetter, and Licht, and I can’t for the life of me understand why you’re giving them such slack. You go on to say that Cappa is not developing under Warhop. Do you think the problem might be that he’s from Humbolt St, wherever the hell that is, instead of let’s say, Alabama, Mich, Ohio St, or… Read more »

Buc76

Totally agree with surferdudes. Licht is the main culprit for all of this failure. He runs the team, he picks the players. Failure on top of failure. Half baked ideas and no real philosophy. He’s a scout level personnel guy and barely even that. Koetter is a 2 time failed offensive coordinator. He never should have been offered head coach. If you look at the standings a 9-7 will probably make the playoffs and we can’t even muster that. They all have to go. We need a complete overhaul like 1996. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit Rating00 No votes yet.… Read more »

Naplesfan

Scott asserts without evidence or analysis that the fault for an underperforming offensive line is with its coach, Warhop Give us the evidence … give us the analysis. What specific coaching from Warhop is it that is holding back Donovan Smith, or Demar Dotson, or Caleb Benenoch, or Ryan Jensen? I’d like to know. Along with all the others calling for Warhop’s head … give us your evidence that coaching is the root cause. Whether or not Warhop is a good coach with mediocre player talent, or a bad coach with superlative player talent … or is somewhere in between… Read more »

Ron Potter

I think Warhop needs to go if we retain Koetter. Koetter needs an OL coach who demands more power-blocking schemes and power-blocking plays. Koetter’s stubborn commitment to run at the times he calls for run plays do not work well with the talent we have on the OL. Sure, we could use another high profile Offensive Lineman either thru a high draft pick or free agency. Not just to replace somebody but for depth reasons too. Sometimes BPA and availability do not coincide with need and we need an OL coach that’s married to the success of the OL players… Read more »

Buc76

Sure pick on Warhop. That’s an easy target but lets protect Licht right so he next GM knows you will back him too. Scott you are not an objective journalist. You are a shill for Bucs management trying to curry favor with the next regime.

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MudManVA

Yeah, Smitty was an easy target too. Oh, it turned out that it wasn’t the players (or the lack of) but the coach since the change. The defense is playing much better with a lot of scrubs under Duffner.

Unfortunately the fans are divided into 2 groups that are black & white:
1- burn the house down & try again
2- keep constancy overall but tweek some of the coaches on staff

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DonkeyHunter

LOL!

More Licht ball-washing from SR.

Shocker!

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cgmaster27

This offensive line is awful for what we are paying for it. Jameis is running for his life back there and the runningbacks are constantly hit in the backfield. Fun fact Jones has 42 rushing yards this year. 44 after contact. Let that sink in. Every run is after contact. It’s a joke. Warhop, who has been here for the last 5 years is another reason koetter should be fired. How can your run game suck for that long and not fire the guy? Just another thing koetter waited too long on. Our entire right side of the line is… Read more »

surferdudes

Remember last year when Marpet was moved to center after playing R.G. for two years? At the time Licht said the plan was always to move Marpet to center we think he can be a pro bowl center. After one year on the job Licht goes out and makes Jensen the highest paid center in the league, and moves Marpet to L.G. where he’s never played before. What happened to the plan? I’ll tell you, it was either flawed, or there really was no plan. The guy just doesn’t know how to draft, and build a team. It’s painfully obvious… Read more »

drdneast

Naplesfan, the fact that it seems you are defending Dominick and Gruden as a coach and GM who were able to put a quality team together shows just how delusional you really are. Dominick, by far, was the worse GM this team has ever had. Bruce Allen and what ever moron who was Ray Perkins GM run a close second. The cupboard was not only bare it was deserted when Licht got here. And that is not to say I am a big fan of Licht’s anymore. I believe it is time for Licht to move on and a new… Read more »

Naplesfan

I’m not defending Dominik, but the offensive line play has clearly gotten much worse than when he was GM. He had other issues, like the inability to sign a quality quarterback. But he was much better on his O-line. And yes I absolutely WILL defend Jon Gruden – he is one of the only two head coaches in Bucs history to get over 50% wins (Dungey being the other), and the only coach to produce a NFC champ and a Super Bowl Champ. Four winning seasons and three playoff seasons out of 7. “nuff said about Gruden. Nobody else can… Read more »

chefboho

So wait, now your telling me that coaching makes a difference after all the posts you made about it ring a player issue? Make up your mind already or you lose credibility.

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Naplesfan

Gruden had much better players, all of whom came either from Rich McKay, the best GM the Bucs have ever had, and from Bruce Allen, who was much better than either Dominik or Licht. And then he coached them up right.

Coaching matters. But success starts with good players, and continues with good coaching. Blaming coaches when the players suck is dumb.

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stlbucsfan

Warhop is a symptom but certainly not the problem with the OL. He has been doomed by terrible acquisitions both in the draft and free agency. Jason Lichts inability to see what others have seen for awhile have hindered his ability to properly fix the OL. NEWSFLASH Donovan Smith is not and never has been the top end LT the Bucs or PewterReport have tried to force feed us for the past few seasons. That realization years ago would’ve allowed us to move him to g or Rt where he’s better suited and then would position us to pay him… Read more »

drdneast

surferdudes I agree with you about Licht but not about Koetter. You should know by now after three years that Koetter is never going to publicly chastise a player in public. He is either going to shoulder the blame or as you say, take cover in the witness protection plan. You can scream and yell all you want to about it, but that is just the way it is and that is why the players still have his back. I thought it was stupid to move Marpet out of his RG position as well but half the armchair GM morons… Read more »

a-bomb

The problem with the Licht argument by the posters here is the Smith/Duffner experiment works against it. Smith wouldn’t utilize his players’ strengths but instead imposed his “system” on them. Duffner (with the same players- actually less because of the injures) has improved the defense by crafting a defense that utilizes the players strengths. Scott’s point is well-taken: just like Smith, Warhop continues to run zone blocking plays that this team cannot execute. That is coaching, not the fault of the GM. It may be an indictment of Koetter, but it is hard to transfer that argument to the GM.… Read more »

stlbucsfan

So it’s Mike Smiths’ fault that Jason Licht drafted VHIII when everyone saw his physical and athletic limitations. In a league where the athletes are getting bigger and faster you get a CB in the 1st round that’s small, slow and was dominated in the SEC when he played the better opponents. As GM Licht should be responsible for accessing the current state of affairs on the team so that he can make the necessary changes in the offseason. Who eye balled the Chris Conte over Bradley McDougald swap 2 offseasons ago? McDougald is playing at a Pro Bowl level… Read more »

Naplesfan

Actually, nobody ever says this, but the defensive backfield that Smith had to play with is mostly on IR, or hardly ever plays due to injury. Those are the starters and A teamers signed by our crappy GM. Duffner has actually had better success working with the scrubs some of whom were not even on the roster when Smith was coaching. I submit that Duffer is working with better players than Smith had ..even if they are no-name scrubs. Smith really had no choice but to play the guys that Licht gave him to work with, until they got hurt… Read more »

Naplesfan

Actually, the relatively unknown defensive scrubs under Duffner are playing better and making more plays than did the high paid starters drafted and signed by Licht. They are better and they play better. Coaching makes little difference unless someone can point to specific coaching decisions that are obviously bad. Nobody can point to any such bad coaching decisions by Smith. Or by Warhop.

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Devasher

I remember taking a sports management class at FSU in 2005. At the time Larry Brown had been named the Knicks head coach after taking the Pistons to two NBA Finals appearances and one NBA championship. I’ll never forget one of the instructors who confidently proclaimed that Larry Brown would fail in New York because there was no talent and talent mattered more than any coach would. And fail Larry Brown did. Brown went from two straight seasons where the Pistons won 66% of their games and had tremendous success in the postseason to a 23-59 (similar to Licht’s record… Read more »

surferdudes

Ultimately the only way to judge Licht is on his record. As mentioned above he’s on the same pace as Dom who was fired. He’s sitting on 50 losses in five years, that’s an average of 10 losses each season, not going to cut it folks. As for Koetter, no one can convince me he’s a capable H.C.. Last night I saw the coach of the Chargers go for the win with a two point conversion. Koetter would never do that, not that he could ever put his team in that position to begin with. Just like last week when… Read more »

Devasher

Koetter was far from impressive in his time as HC of ASU. I think if you spoke to those that followed him at that program you’d have a lot of surprised people that he would have found himself being the HC of an NFL team. But Dirk proved himself as an NFL OC thereafter and the timing of his success and Jameis being drafted recently gave rise to Scott calling for and Licht speaking with ownership about firing Lovie and promoting Dirk above his abilities. So Dirk the successful OC became Dirk the overmatched HC. It still amazes me that… Read more »

martinii

Good read Scott and I agree that the running game leaves a lot to be desired. Just a few comments if I may: I would seem logical that our offensive strategy is to throw the ball. With the QB’s and receiving corp we have the team is built to pass first. As remedial as it seems that strategy undermines great statistics in the running game. I agree Marpet is our best lineman, Smith is a revolving door for a left tackle although at RT Tackle with the Franchise tag may be a good move. Way too many times has Benenoch… Read more »

Ron Potter

It doesn’t only show the true ineffectiveness of the rushing game, Scott. It shows the true ineffectiveness of the offensive scheme designed by Dirk Koetter too. These are not designed QB rushing plays. Koetter doesn’t scheme to have the QB running. So why is our QB running so much? 1. Nobody’s open in this poor scheme. Fitz was running when the OL was blocking good so I list the OL second 2. Poor pass protection. When the QBs try to force the passing game, we get INTs. And a lot of those passing yards Koetter bragged about in his press… Read more »

JohnGaltsGhost

For those calling for Licht’s head, I ask you, isn’t is job to build the roster? Is the current roster better then the 2013 roster? Let’s go position by position. QB: Winston/Fitztragic is certainly better than Freeman/Glennon. Wr: this group is absolutely better then what we had in 2013 Rb: Barber vs Martin? Call it a push OL: worse DL: JPP and Nassib make it much better Lbs:Kwon and Beckwith make this much better than what we had in 2013 Dbs: very slightly better ST: a draw So in most cases the roster has improved and in some places substantially.… Read more »

Devasher

Let’s be clear JohnGaltsGhost, the average NFL career is 3-6 years depending on how you evaluate the players coming in. You’re subjectively looking at players that are still playing and comparing them to a roster 80% of which who are already out of the league. This is why everyone gets excited over draft picks, you don’t know what they will end up doing. Similarly if you try to extrapolate Carl Nassib as this long term fix on the D-Line and ignore that the Browns cut him a few months ago you’d be ignoring that NFL history is littered with players… Read more »

Horse

Then why did they go 9-7 2016 and gotten worse?

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Devasher

Are you asking why the team in 2016 played better than every other team under Licht, @horse Well, PR has covered the back end of that season as “smoke and mirrors” with Keith Tandy playing out of his mind with 4 INTs and Chris Conte had a well timed INT in KC. The Bucs also played the Panthers in week 17 that was a meaningless game for both teams and try and they might the 8-8 Bucs won that late season exhibition. So congrats to Licht and Co, it was the only time in 5 tries the Bucs won more… Read more »

Devasher

Are you asking why the team in 2016 played better than every other team under Licht, Horse? Well, PR has covered the back end of that season as “smoke and mirrors” with Keith Tandy playing out of his mind with 4 INTs and Chris Conte had a well timed INT in KC. The Bucs also played the Panthers in week 17 that was a meaningless game for both teams and try and they might the 8-7 Bucs won that late season exhibition. So congrats to Licht and Co, it was the only time in 5 tries the Bucs won more… Read more »

Horse

Scott, I like the layout; less fluff and to the point. No way the DB from a small college is going in the 2nd round and I bet he’s really not 6′ either. There will be OL available in Rounds 1 & 2 and RB’s in Rounds 3 & 4. Scott I wouldn’t be proud of PR predicting Spence , Cappa, Watson drafted by the Bucs; so what have they done for us? There is blame all around; GM, Coach, Player’s. We’re fast to find knew player’s; should be the same for GM & Coach. Rate this item:Thumb UpThumb DownSubmit… Read more »

Brandonges

$13 million for Donovan Smith!!! Are you high? Did you forget a decimal place in there? The dude is trash and always has been. He’s not worth $1.3mm per season. Use a first round pick or throw an obscene amount of money at another free agent. Either way, get Smith off this team. No one needs the constant pressure he allows in addition to the three penalties per game he gets.

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fredster

Good article I agree with everything pretty much Pewter Report pointed out. I don’t care who the RB is they won’t do much behind this lame ass line. Smith is terrible LT. The stats don’t show how bad he is because his score ups come at such bad times in big games. Paying him 14 million is nuts I don’t care who free agency brings. There has to be a better solution. Has to be! Warhop has sucked for 5 years with different players. He is not getting the job done I don’t know how anyone can defend him. Running… Read more »

bucballer

All good comments. Bucs fans just want some consistency in performance and a team that plays with passion. Changes need to be made. Period. Licht has 50 losses in 5 years. Gone. Koetter is 19-26. Not horrible within itself. The problem is he ultimately decides as Head Coach the identity of the Offense and Defense. What is the identity of this Buc’s team? Apparently we r a pass first offense with not much of a run game. We r what we thought we were. The problem is the system and the coaching. Of course talent is an important ingredient as… Read more »

bucballer

I thought he should’ve been fired after last year… I’m just saying

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EastEndBoy

You know who would look good at RG for us:

Gabe Jackson…that guy Licht passed by to take a 3rd down RB that is long gone,

or better yet, Quentin Nelson…that guy Licht never even tried to trade up 1 slot to get, instead selecting yet another DT for the team.

Whatever Warhop’s role in this debacle, Licht is the mayor of our debacle-town!

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thewbacca

I know this sounds picky but I would not lump Noah Spence in as a small school player. He played for Ohio State before he got caught doing ecstasy.

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Dman

Good lord, the season is over and you guys are finally getting around to this!!!! Average backs that all of a sudden become stars in the NFL shine because they have superior O Lines. Championship teams are such because they have dominant O lines. Anybody remember the Hogs? Peyton Barber is a hell uv a back. Runs hard EVERY time, top rated RB in the league for yards after contact. Watched him giving his line high fives on the bench last Sunday while they let him get crushed within fractions of a second of a second after getting a handoff.… Read more »

thewbacca

Couldn’t agree more.

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76Buc

“But the fact that Benenoch is playing out of position – I don’t think he’s built to play guard – and hasn’t developed, nor has Cappa and Pamphile before them,”-easy fix-switch D. Jones to RG and let Benenoch and Cappa fight it out in their natural positions. Draft an LT. Jones goes to the pro-bowl after a breaking in period.

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