BREAKING NEWS: WINSTON TO MISS A COUPLE WEEKS WITH SHOULDER INJURY

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Scott Reynolds

Scott Reynolds is in his 23rd year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR’s Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds enjoys giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons’ Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: sr@pewterreport.com

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    athans5

    SR, I think that part 2 is a major overreaction. Koetter is known around the league as one of the best play callers, why would you want to strip him of what he is best at for Todd Monken? Who is completely unproven as a play caller. Ever since Koetter has come to Tampa we have had the best offense that I have had the pleasure to watch in my many years as a Bucs fan, by far! If anything we should be worried that Koetter was being too loyal to his friend Mike Smith when we should have gone out and tried for Wade Phillips. We need a DC that we can trust to do his part, so that Koetter can completely focus on the offense as you mentioned. Calling for Koetter to get fired will set our franchise back multiple years, please don’t do that to me!

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    DonkeyHunter

    Don’t feel bad. There were plenty of us who didn’t buy into the PR hype this season.

    When it was announced that we were participating on Hard Knocks, I knew the season was over before it started. A bunch of players buying into their own hype. Soft practices. Trying to look good in front of the cameras. Believing they were the media darlings, despite not accomplishing shit in 10 years. PR ate it up like the abundance of casuals roaming the boards.

    So, after your apologies for not “reporting it like it is” and for “overhyping the team”…your first line of remedying the situation is to strip Koetter of play calling duties. Seriously, do you even watch these games? While some instances can be questioned (like all OC’s), do you think that’s going to miraculously change Winston’s accuracy or penchant to make idiotic decisions with the ball? Receivers have been open on nearly every route, all year long, and Winston simply can’t hit them. He throws the worst deep ball in the league. He can’t consistently lead receivers, and he continuously passes on underneath routes trying to force the ball deep.

    You want to rip Koetter for not letting go of the worst DC in the league (who happens to be his buddy), then so be it. You want to rip Koetter for running a soft camp, then so be it. But, ripping him for play calling (despite what film breakdown shows), just so you don’t have to be critical of Winston, is amateur hour. More amateur than claiming “Aguayo Was a Genius Pick”.

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      tog

      Where I disagree DonkeyHunter is that it’s not just about Koetter’s playcalling. Perhaps its not PRIMARILY about Koetter’s playcalling.

      It takes so much to be an HC, and I think most coaches are better for focusing on that. And Koetter is a good playcaller, but there’s also reasons he get criticised for some of his decisions (3rd down, Sims, tosses, etc.)

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      pinkstob

      DonkeyHunter I agree with what you said for the most part. The only part I’m not sure on is whether Koetter might be part of the problem as the play caller. Winston has been inaccurate and Koetter continues to call the deep ball which is bad, but I don’t know if the OC will call a more balanced attack than Koetter. Even if you can run the ball, if your QB can’t hit wide open receivers it doesn’t matter what passing play you call because you can’t win only throwing short. Defenses will adjust.

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    Naplesfan

    A lot of flailing around here, Scott.

    Bottom line is, if Koetter can’t turn it around and win most of the remaining 9 games, resulting in a 4 or 5 win season, the Glazers are going to look elsewhere for a head coach. And Jon Gruden might just be that guy. Or not.

    Whether Koetter calls his own plays or not is immaterial – he has to start producing wins, or he’ll be another failure at the head coaching spot in Tampa. It’s not just one thing here, it’s everything that is inconsistent and producing less than mediocre bottom line results. This is a bottom line business.

    As for feature backs being supposedly a new thing this year, how well is that working out for Minnesota? Or the Saints? When you put all your eggs in one basket and that basket gets torn up on the field, or even the practice field, you’re done. Better to have multiple backs who are good, and the one with the hot legs should get most of the carries. Right now that’s Martin. The problem is our coaches are obviously, despite all the talk to the contrary, not committed to running the ball, and our offense is entirely predictable to where opposing MLBs call out our plays in real time.

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    RootsCrew

    This is a great and depressing Fab 5. So many things have gone wrong in just 7 games it’s hard to even point to one thing. Offense, defense, clock management, in game adjustments, player rotation, execution and on and on. Maddening.

    I like Dirk. I like Winston. I love the playmakers we have on offense. But the disconnect on offense is disturbing to watch though. I was on board with Dirk giving up play calling at the end of last season. He specifically mentioned he might be stretched too thin to effectively call plays. As Scott mentioned, our predictability on offense is depressing. Winston has his issues with inconsistent play. No doubt. But far too often the play calling has certainly not done him or the offense any favors. Trevor even did an excellent Cover 3 about it. We don’t have true balance. In 2015 we passed 134 more times than we ran the ball. That number jumped to 185 in 2016. We’re already at 146 more pass attempts with 9 games remaining. Something has to change on offense.

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    Jlog

    Koetter play calling is not great, clock management is still questionable with him as well. I’m more concerned with him as a coach, I just don’t see him being effective. The locker room may respect him, if they down it’s not a lot though. Not holding Smith to any standards is a complete failure IMO though.

    Also this “we don’t have an identity” BS, really. The team doesn’t have the identity that we expect them to have with the talent we have but they certainly has an identity and it’s a consistent one. Only the coaching staff and those men in the locker room can change that, so enough with the excuses and catch phrases.

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    FLBoyInDallas

    Haven’t commented since draft season earlier this year but I’ve been reading PR every day as usual and of course following the Bucs, and let me say this: Gruden is not the answer.

    How quickly we forget that Gruden’s overall record in Tampa produced a mere .509 winning percentage (57-55 record). In seven years he did win the division three times, but the other four finishes consisted of two third places and two fourth places. Besides the Super Bowl year, those other two first place NFC South finishes produced first-round wild card losses.

    Not only that, but his trend as a head coach during those last three years was definitely heading in a downward direction. His teams were mediocre at best, and below average at worst. His coaching style had become stale and not only did his players begin to tune him out but other NFL teams had written the book on his system and it wasn’t nearly as effective as it was in those first three seasons.

    Lest we also forget, his hand-picked GM was one of the worst, if not THE worst, in Bucs history. Couldn’t draft his way out of a wet paper bag if his life depended on it. And Gruden thumbed his nose at the owners time and time again when pressed to draft and develop a QB. His stubbornness and narrow-mindedness cost this franchise its future for many years to come back then.

    There are those of us who remember, and we remember very well, the Gruden years. We’re grateful for the Super Bowl and some of the great players and personalities this team had, yes, but we’re not blind and we don’t romanticize the “glory days” like some seem to be doing. We understand that this team needs to be looking to the future, not the past, for its next phase of success and, hopefully, glory.

    Gruden is not the answer.

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      Horse

      100% agree; look at all the younger coaches who are winning without a QB like Brady or Brees.

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      pinkstob

      Agreed

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      scubog

      When criticizing the acquisition of players; shouldn’t you also consider the fact that so many premium Draft choices were given up to get Gruden in the first place?

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    Horse

    Well IRMA didn’t help at all as there is no two week reset-timeout button to go forward. I really don’t expect two more wins at best, but I hope I’m wrong. There’s not just an identity issue with the players; there’s also no solid coaching, good communication going on between coaches and players, and on going teaching player’s isn’t happening either. No contact at practices during pre-season was a surprise for me, and does answers some of my questions as to what happened with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. What I see so far is an inexperience head coach not learning yet how to be a head coach. The Saints are a good balanced team so the wake call is now! Mike Smith needs to get his ass down on the field and help his defense from ground level. Just curious Pewter Report Scott; did the Bucs practice in the indoor facility this week as it should have happened like Surferdudes brought up in an easrlier article? After this game we are going to know who we really are. ! Coaches and Players, find some pride for crying out loud!

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    martinii

    Really some good honest and realistic insights Scott. Don’t feel like the lone ranger, the vast amount of Buc Fans and many respectable analyst predicted they would have a good season in view of their 9-7 record and weapons for Jameis acquisitions. After 50 years of watching and playing football I can tell you I cannot predict nor even come close to determining what a team will actually accomplish in terms of Wins and Losses during any given season. The long used axioms, “On any given Sunday, and Thats why they play the game,” are alive and well and have been since the first snap from center over 100 years ago. That being said there are factors which influence perennial success by a team. In college Alabama is predictable because of it’s recruiting program. In the pros you get teams with solid foundations, great coaching, and successful schemes that seem to sustain success for several seasons. Eventually they lose a long term franchise QB and cycle into a rebuilding phase. Then there are teams who rarely go to the playoffs of break .500. They are teams that perpetually change coaches and spend every season with top rookies who have to adapt to the NFL. From 3000 feet these factors are obvious, it’s when we bore down on problems that we become frustrated, when we over analyze every phase of the game that we become too critical. Team chemistry win games, losing attitudes and player motivation lose games. No one entity is responsible. External factors like rule changes (concussion protocol) scheduling, injuries, etc. have major impacts on all teams. Finally many games are decided on 3 or 4 plays, so while non of this is rocket science anticipating a teams season is virtually impossible.

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    Mic

    Everything that was said about the bad adjustments playcalling and defensive specialization I called for it since the Arizona game. It’s dumb and we’re both right it doesn’t give the players time to feel it out and set up moves or catch on to tendencies.

    One thing I disagree with is running Martin because you can look back through the film and see how obvious it is when it’s a run the formations the pre snap motion defensive players can see this and this is why we have a lot of one yard gains and losses but that occasional 10 yard gain is because we run the same plays and it looks like we only have 5 running plays in 5 formations not a fact but it’s something I see. Running from shotgun will also be beneficial because then the linebackers can’t just sell out on pass. The predictability of run or pass is so obvious

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    WinstonMVP

    Way Too early to be saying Koetter needs to give up play calling. Hard to get in any groove when we cant complete any third down conversions. A lot of that falls on Winston’s slow starts. He just seems to take for ever to get rolling. That’s hurting alot. And our offense has had some high scoring games already. Just way too early to give up play calling. If it’s still a problem next year than I could see Koetter giving up play calling. IMO GO BUCS!!!

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      Naplesfan

      What does it matter who calls the plays? What matters is points on the board, and Ws in the W-L column. It’s Koetter’s responsibility to decide how and who calls the plays. Maybe Moncken isn’t a good play caller – nobody can say he’s ever done it effectively in the NFL before. Or maybe he is a good play-caller. Either way, it’s Koetter’s responsibility to git’er done.

      And right now, Koetter’s not gittin’ er done. That has to change, or the Glazers are going to have to take action to git’er done.

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    surferdudes

    Too many “whys”, in this article, and no answers in sight. If Licht, Koetter, the Glazers themselves knew how to fix this mess, they’d have been doing so. Every press conference, the same questions are asked about this team, and we get the same we need to do better all around spiel. That may be true, but nothing changes that might make that happen. You can’t pry the play calling away from Koetter, Smitty is staying in the press box, we keep rotating players, nothing has changed, nothing will change. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over, and over expecting different results. Don’t know about you, but it’s driving me insane!

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      Horse

      surferdudes, agree with you.

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    Mike.Seven

    I want to go on record before Sundays game, Koetter was not great choice for coach but has made some strides, The problem is the defence is being asked to spend to much time on field due to fumbles, punts, Ints open receivers being missed, and on this site no one wants to blame the QB.
    This site assumes he is great franchise QB with bad team and coach.
    However, in 2 quarters Fitz lit up the field with points TD and yards using the same team.
    There will be excuse Monday JW is hurt shoulder, my point let the hurt shoulder rest and let Fitz in this week, last chance to save the season.

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      Horse

      Mike.Seven; you make good points and I do agree with some of it, but during Fitz time on the field the game was over and the other teams defense was playing softer coverages

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        Mike.Seven

        Understand 2nd half they were in more prevent, however, I sure liked the way ball hit receivers in the numbers and open receivers were found so often.

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      Naplesfan

      If Winston can play he should. If he can’t, he shouldn’t. That’s up to the medical staff.

      Whether Fitz will do better or not, that’s impossible to say unless he is asked to take over.

      I don’t believe that anyone is making excuses, Koetter, Winston, or anyone else associated with the team. Everybody on the Bucs agrees that the performance to date is bad and must get better. Talk is cheap. We need to see improvement or nothing else matters.

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        Horse

        Naplesfan, Agree with you.

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    Buc 1976

    Koetter should be here next year no matter his record. He does not throw the ball nor catch the ball. As far as the assistant coaches go many will probably be let go.
    The person to look at maybe Licht GM earn their pay by finding talent in the 4th to 7th rounds he has not done so. If we look at some good teams they find some talent in those rounds.

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    Buc76

    Its already too late. Koetter is not an NFL Head Coach. Its obvious. Someone I work with said this team has no soul and they are right. Its a lifeless team. Not inspired. Its beyond play calls and the clock. these guys are just collecting paychecks. they do not care if they win or lose. This has been going on the last 9 years.

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      Horse

      Buc76; not sure yet. I’m going to wait until after these next two games.

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        Buc 1976

        Horse this season started with a bye because of IRMA. That was a game that could have played on Thursday! But because of network contracts was NOT. The Bucs IMO would have won that game and the Bears game a week later.
        And who knows after that but the moral I think would have been much better with 2 wins under their belt.

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          Horse

          I can’t disagree with those thoughts, but I thought we were focused at the Bears game and it gave me no reason to doubt we were in trouble. Not sure if the Coaches know how to coach out of this mess. Surprised no trades were made last week? I sure would have sent some kind of message to the team as a wake up call.

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    stlbucsfan

    Great Fab 5, I agree the soft training camp was probably the recipe for disaster on this team. The offense didn’t face real competition in practice so it makes sense why the timing is not good and things are inconsistent. We had guys playing flag football all summer now when they get hit in the mouth THIS team doesn’t know how to respond. There are new players starting at virtually every level of the team that are facing real competition for the first time as a unit during the season. Teams bond and find out a lot about themselves during the summer and this looks and sounds like a team not on the same page. It’s ashamed that veteran coaches didn’t understand the important of training camp and virtually tanked the season with a half assed start. I want nothing more than continuity for this franchise but if the Glazers decide to spring clean I won’t be upset. Watching a GM neglect the trenches for 4 seasons and a “veteran” coaching staff meander through training camp in year 2 has to be concerning.

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    surferdudes

    Koetter thought the whole preseason was about finding out who your back ups were going to be. His admission, he didn’t know how to approach the games, because winning didn’t matter. He admitted he didn’t game plan. I don’t see why he couldn’t do both. Yeah you got to find out who your back ups are going to be, but your main goal should be getting your starters ready when it does count. Koetter clearly has failed at that, slow starts, no physicality, on either side of the ball from a soft no contact training camp. I get he didn’t want to get anyone hurt, but injuries are part of the game no matter when they happen, Look at D. Watson, torn ACL in a none contact drill. Shit happens, As Gruden was fond of saying, live in your hopes, not in your fears. This team plays like it’s scared, and they play like they hope things won’t go wrong. An attitude adjustment is needed.

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      Horse

      Surferdudes, I hear you for sure and agree on most what you are saying. I’m waiting to see what happens these next two games. I’m waiting to see how many players step forward so we know who to release, cut, trade when the season ends; same for Coaching, GM too. There’s got to be some major progress here in winning now!

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      bEubanks11

      I said the same things weeks ago. Being reminded of the timid training camp solidifies the view I have of Koetters mentality which is that he plays the game not to lose until he’s forced to play to win. I get that he doesn’t want to squander his first head coaching job and wants to protect it. That’s back firing badly. Time to lay it on the table Dirk and your players will follow!

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    pinkstob

    I’ve been waiting for this article. SR’s unrealistic insight and analysis has really turned me off of PR over the years. I can’t remember when it started but I typically read the title of the article and if it’s full of hyperbole and unearned hype then I haven’t been reading them. I hope this Fab 5 is the start of a return to insight and analysis based on the facts that brought me to PR in the first place over 10 years ago.

    I thought it was a pretty good article except there is one assumption almost everyone is making including SR that is the core of why the team isn’t meeting most people expectations. For me, they are performing they way I though they would since training camp started due to the one thing I see that most don’t: This is not a talented football team, at least not relative to the other teams in the NFL. It’s just plain old fashioned not. The Bucs aren’t void of talent, but their talent does not match the best teams in the league. In short, our talent level overall is average, which is why the team the team performs averagely. We aren’t losing games by much, but we weren’t winning by much last year. Stop bringing up that 4000 yard/season crap, the game is measured in points, not yards and to this point he has also been inaccurate. A lot of those yards game in garbage time when the game was out of reach. For all of Evan’s success, he drops more balls than he should and doesn’t offer YAC. Desean Jackson has never been a good run blocker, D. Smith and J.R. Sweezy are poor pass blocker, Brate is not a good run blocker and like you said SR, Dougie can’t catch and Sims can’t run. Now all the guys I named have good attributes as well but aside from Evans, Desean Jackson, Marpet and Brate the other guys on offense are either average or below average.

    On the surface that appears above average overall, but the defensive and special teams talent is below average overall which makes for an average Bucs team at best and 2-5 at worst. As mentioned in the article, we have no DE’s on this team. None. How do you expect to win with a 4-3 like that? Our whole secondary is below average and both L. David and Kwon have been inconsistent tacklers for years. I like their will to try and strip the ball from ball carriers in the 2nd half of games, but sometimes it’s too little too late. The greatest attribute of a LB is shedding blocks and making tackles. Too often their high tackle numbers come from tacking receivers after they catch the ball (see the Cowboys game last year for example). Good RB’s averaged too many yards per carry against us since L. David has been here.

    Our punter has been the only good thing about special teams. Maybe we have a kicker now, but we sure didn’t this offseason when everyone thought we were talented enough to make the playoffs. The kicker is the 2nd most important position on the team. Also, when have our kick and punt returners been threats to take it to the house? Not since Peanut Smith, that’s when.

    All this stuff counts and most of you are not acknowledging it when you say we are talented, including you SR. You should know better. If we don’t improve and don’t make the playoffs we need to blow most of this team up. I saw last week’s article about Chubb and he’s great, but until the college and NFL season is over I’m not ready to say who or what position we need to draft. If we end up on the top 5 how can you guys not be considering a QB with the guys that are coming out and Winston’s performance up to this point? One thing I have to give Gruden credit for that he said once was, “If you are drafting in the top 5 of the draft, you have a problem at the QB position”. Of course, he’s the same guy that drafted Cadillac instead of A. Rodgers at the #5 spot, which is another reason Gruden should not be the head coach for the Bucs again. His ego won’t even let him follow his own good advice.

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      pinkstob

      BTW, all of this criticism I am directing at talent is a direct condemnation of Licht’s work as the GM. He needs to be gone after this season is over.

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      Horse

      Pinkstop; hard not to agree with what you are saying. I’m not ready yet to fire the cannons until these next two games are done.

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      Naplesfan

      23 teams passed on Aaron Rodgers in the 2005 draft. Hindsight is always 20/20, and the cheapest kind of sight one can have.

      And Cadillac Williams won rookie of the year, and performed great until he got injured.

      No coach or GM can possibly predict injuries. Everybody was patting the Vikings guys on the head for getting such a great deal by taking Dalvin Cook in the second round. He looked fabulous for the first month of the season, and then wham! Out on IR.

      Ditto with all the declarations of genius bestowed upon the Texans for taking DeShaun Watson down low in the first round, after all the dumb yucklehads before them in the draft passed on Watson. Watson was literally tearing it up in the first two months of the season, putting on a masterful show against Russell Wilson just last Sunday, a game many said was the best offensive showing by a pair of quarterbacks in many years. And then, just a couple days ago, Wham!! Deshaun Watson out for the season with a torn ACL.

      Nobody predicts injuries. Nobody.

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    bEubanks11

    Horse, you crack me up with how you get stuck on a saying and then end every post that way. What is the relevance of the next 2 games exactly?

    And Pink, I get that you’re angry man. I said last week that there’s got to be something more productive for me to do with my Sundays than to be wasting 3 hours watching this sh!t show. But to say there isn’t tremendous talent on this team is inaccurate. It’s the lack of refinement and use of talent that’s the killer. These players are not being put in position to succeed. I’ll admit jamies is not as good as the hype. His inability to hit a wide open receiver in stride down field is maddening. He’s no Carson Wentz as PR tried to convince us he’s better than earlier in the season. But coaching is definitely the problem here. There’s much less talent on other, better coached teams, that win games. Inconsistency across the board, in every facet of the game, points to one man at the moment.

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      Horse

      beubanks; can’t disagree with you about my draw out as to what I know is going to happen, but I’m like many Buc Fans I still have some hope something good will happen. Once our 9th game is over we will be well into the season. If we are 2-7 by then, it’s surely over and any win after that means nothing, but losses in obtaining higher draft picks.

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    scubog

    We here in Bucville always know how to place blame when the losses begin to pile up. Here we cite predictable play calling when most of us couldn’t even diagram even the simplest one. We blame the General Manager for failed player acquisitions albeit more typically after the results are known. We blame the Head Coach for not getting the team ready when most of the players earn more than he does and shouldn’t need prompting. We blame the Defensive scheme when most of us have no idea what any of the terms even mean and certainly have no clue about an individual player’s responsibilities within it. And of course we blame the quarterback, who we anoint as the scapegoat for all things that don’t go as planned. Oh we have our favorite whipping boys; often with little basis of fact. It used to be Gerald McCoy who was called a “bust” early in his career. We like to blame Chris Conte because well, they did in Chicago. We blame Donovan Smith if one or two plays out of 60 are noticed. Many didn’t like the selection of Justin Evans so he was nominated for whipping boy status until he unseated last season’s darling Keith Tandy. Folks wanted to name Kendall Beckwith as a potential whipping boy until his solid play nixed that. Of course JonnyG’s favorite blame recipient Luke Stocker can’t be forgotten even though he continues to contribute in many ways. Point is, when a team that seemed so promising starts the downward spiral everyone can share in the causes because it changes from week to week and play to play.

    Me, I also blame our fan base. Even after an exciting 9-7 finish to the 2016 season, the expectations of an even better 2017, the acquisition of one of the league’s top deep threats and stadium improvements, our fellow fans responded with a collective ho-hum. Some season pass holders with the premium seats operate as ticket brokers more than devoted fans. How are the players to feel when our 12th Man is wearing the opponent’s jersey? At the Patriots game when our offense was driving for a game winning TD, the chant was “Defense-Defense”. This past game against the Panthers was one of the most uninspired games I’ve ever attended both on the field and in the stands. A beautiful day against a Division rival and the stadium was 3/4 full. Contrast that this week when the Saints fans, whose team went 7-9 a season ago, will show up in force with their Who Dat cheer.

    Let’s hope the team does something this week to reignite the fan base whose flame is as the song says, Like a Candle in the Wind.

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      pinkstob

      I disagree with you for the most part on this one Scubog. Most football websites nowadays, including PR, offer offensive and defensive play breakdowns. TS does it with a fair amount of regularity with this Cover 3 articles. What better time is there for blaming the GM’s player acquisitions than after the results are known? Should we be calling for the GM to be fired before the results are known? The head coach is paid to get the team ready; it’s in his job description. If the players didn’t need prompting all we would need are coordinators and position coaches. A coordinator could throw red flags and call timeouts, as this article pointed out that’s what the Rams do sometimes. We blame players when they deserve it based on their play on the field.

      I do agree with you 100% about the fans. We need to do a better job attending games and not selling our tickets to opponents. I’ll reiterate something I said immediately after Schiano was fired. I said guys, maybe it’s us. By us I mean the Tampa Bay fans, media and owners. We’re the only common denominators in all this football ineptitude. That’s why I said throughout the Lovie period from day one I don’t care if he stays or goes. Until the Tampa Bay owners, media and fans figure out what college players will be elite in the NFL, what free agents are worth acquiring and what players are worth trading for it doesn’t matter who the head coach is. We collectively decide who the GM is because the owners hire him and the media and fans lobby for whether that GM stays or goes and the GM does all those things I listed that this team needs. The Glazers need to solicit a firm to hire a Team President/CEO to run this team and select the GM or the Glazers need to sell the team because they clearly don’t know what they’re doing. SR is realizing he’s been doing this wrong so that’s a start, I hope the rest of the local media follow suit. The fans need to watch way, way more college football, not just the teams they like and also watch every NFL game every week so they see how other players perform. They can watch the game replays on their cable provider or on Youtube.

      It’s everybody’s job to get this team to the Super Bowl and win it and nobody up to this point has been doing their job.

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        bEubanks11

        I love the fire and heart and accountability you feel for this team Pink. You are a true fan to believe you are a part of this organization as I do as well. But to think that we can affect the buccaneers draft plans by watching more college film is a little far fetched. The organization has employees that they pay a lot of money to figure that out. These people have jobs just like we all do. I know for a fact they couldn’t do my job and I’m not for a second believing that I could do theirs.

        SCU this point goes out to your post as well. These people that run our little slice of life distraction are not doing the job their getting paid to do. If you hire a contactor to work on your house you won’t need to know how to do their job to know if they’re doing a bad job. It’ll be obvious just as it is with this football team. Something is very wrong inside the walls of this team. We may be drawing at straws but something structurally isn’t right as this building is failing. You can not dispute that. Its a sloppy product that’s failing under its own weight.

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          scubog

          In my case, I do know about contractors, but I get your point. My point was to include ourselves as part of the problem with our favorite team’s psyche. There’s just little passion for this team nowadays. Even in the old days folks would complain about yet another loss. Now, no one seems to really care. No longer do I go to work on Mondays and hear, “What happened to the Bucs?” I actually miss that.

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      Naplesfan

      The Bucs fan base has ALWAYs been dominated by a combination of fair weather fans and the “ticket brokers” who gladly buy season tickets simply to sell them off to the enemy. It’s always been that way.

      People in Florida simply do not have the longstanding sports culture that northern cities do. Even perennial losers like Cleveland still have rabid fans and sell their tickets mostly to the home crowd. Perennial winners like New England or Green Bay, you better be the son or daughter of a lifetime season ticket holder, because inheriting those tickets is the only way you’ll ever see them.

      There is no such thing as the 12th man here in Tampa .. or Terrible Towels as in Pittsburg … or the loudest stadium in the world as in Seattle.

      Tampa is closer to some of the southern tier “Sun Belt” state cities where “ho hum” is the norm. Los Angeles cared so little for their Rams that nobody noticed when the skipped town for St. Louis .. or noticed when they arrived back in town. And look at those poor Chargers … nobody cared enough in San Diego to figure out how to keep them in town, and then when they blew town, they cannot even fill a FCS college stadium holding 27,000 seats unless they give the tickets away to first responders and military members.

      Not all Sun Belt cities have our problem .. Atlanta never fails to get behind their Dirty Birds … Dallas is still “America’s Team” as far as their fans are concerned. And the Saints supported their team even when they spent decades as the “Aints”.

      OK, rant over.

      The bottom line is that the present Bucs leadership better get their shit together or they’ll be handing away free tickets the rest of this season, and then they are going to have a very hard time convincing anyone to care next season, unless big changes are made (unfortunately) yet again. Getting tired of the coaching carousel. But maybe we need to start with a change at GM, or a combined HC/GM. Maybe Jon Gruden is that guy. Or maybe there’s someone better out there.

      God, I’m getting so fed up with perpetual underperformance at One Buc Place, I’d even consider asking Payton Manning to come in as GM and hire a head coach. And that’s desperation, I tell ya! 🙂

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        Naplesfan

        Correction – “Peyton”

        I threw up a little in my throat while writing that last paragraph above

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      Horse

      Scubog Yes, once again I admit i called McCoy a bust after two years of injuries. I was wrong like I have said numerous times. Yu pretty much play it safe in your writings. Yes I speak out; sometimes too soon like many fans and yes we aren’t coaches or past professional players. I’m waiting until after our 9th game because if we can’t beat the Jets, then we have to go back to the drawing board. As to the fans who aren’t attending the games, but are still fans; accept the thought many don’t want to sit in the hot sun or spend hours coming and going to the games; and oh yes it is about the money too. What do you think the Bucs fan average age might be I bet it’s up there based on our fan base because the organization has missed for years the opportunity to grow the base by letting children under the age of 12 in free, middle/high school discounts, under 25 discounts. The next CBA will be the final spear in the heart of the NFL. NFL and Players in the future have to accept less profit and wages or just like many Unions they will be gone. Most people under 40 really could care less about the violent sport of footbal. Now that I’m past 71, I only watch the Buccaneers, FSU, Miami, UF, USF, UCF; only the Bucs I will work around my life to watch every game.

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        scubog

        I never mentioned your name Horse. You weren’t the only one down on McCoy.

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    surferdudes

    Scu, I’m sure the fans would’ve been into the game if the team gave them something to cheer about. The stands would’ve been full if we were riding a winning streak instead of a losing one. Can’t blame people for not wanting to spend good money on season tickets for a team that’s been flailing along for the last 10 years. As far as player acquisitions, and the draft, most weren’t happy drafting a kicker in the 2nd round, letting guys like Penn, or Bennett go, and myself, and Horse have been calling for building in the trenches for years. One thing we’ve all shut up about is how cheap the Glazers were. They must be really pissed with the money they’ve spent on the stadium, and indoor facility only to see the team move backwards again. It’s another year of instead of fire the cannons, it’s fire the front office, coaching staff!

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    EastEndBoy

    I find it hard to blame Koetter – the mistakes our players are making are not what he’s (or their college coaches for that matter were) teaching them. I can find blame in Smith for sticking with a system that relies on the weakest aspect of the players he has (1-on-1 pass rush). But most of all Licht’s neglect of the two lines is criminal for a GM…that’s got to be GM 101, and he’s failed it miserably. Not a single 1st rounder or top-tier FA on either line in his whole tenur – a recipe for disaster. He also passed up later round linemen to fill clear needs on our team (Gabe Jackson when we had nobody at OG, Lael Collins as a late round gamble)…his lack of attention to the lines has meant losing in the trenches.

    I hope we can win a few more this year and get Koetter back…good thing about the league of parity is that winning is rarely really an upset….but Licht in particular needs a pink slip.

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      Naplesfan

      SMH

      Guys like you claim that Licht “neglected the two lines”, which is complete balderdash. The entire O-line that we have was brought in by Licht, using both high draft picks and expensive free agents. Other than McCoy, the entire D-line was brought in by Licht, and he’s made multiple high draft picks (2nd round counts as “high”) and expensive free agent acquisitions, every year he’s been here.

      And, uhhh, we had many needs beyond the lines. Virtually 100% of all Bucs fans agreed that quarterback, receivers, tight ends, linebackers, and defensive secondary were ALL top needs too.

      One can say that the results of the new guys on the line has been mixed, which is true. Not liking the results does not mean the lines were ignored.

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        EastEndBoy

        SMH

        Our best OLineman was brought in by Dominik. And if Licht hadn’t cut him, our second best OLineman would still be a Dominik pickup.

        Our best DLineman was brought in by Dominik…as was one of our starting DE.

        Who is this amazing high priced talent Licht brought in…Cousins? Collins? Johnson? Johnson? .. Just bringing in cast offs is not particularly helpful.

        If you want to give the guy credit, that’s fine, but find somebody on the roster that he should actually be able to count as a win…Cameron Brate…but no, there is nobody on either line that he can count as a win….

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          EastEndBoy

          …in the 1st round or FA….yes Marpet in round 2 is a win.

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    damian_thompson

    Scott,

    LONG time reader/subscriber of PR and LOVE these articles. Your writing and analysis is deep & well thought out… (ready for it?)

    most of the time.

    BUT, you have to get off this soapbox about hitting in preseason being a big cause of their poor play in regular season. This team is mismanaged, underprepared, & lacks accountability, ALL true.

    But the no contact preseason = sloppy tackling regular season argument fails in week one.

    By the logic of lack of tackling drills and contact in preseason then week one would be the worst example of this, but it wasn’t. That was a solid effort by the team against the Bears.

    This team has numerous issues and as much of a Koetter fan as I am and on board with #FireLovie from day 1 this team has no identity because the coach has no identity. He has divorced himself from the defensive side of the team with too much deference to Mike Smith and he clearly can’t balance the CEO nature of a coach with the focus required of an O Coordinator.

    So he’s a leader that isn’t really leading. Thats the issue with this talented but underperforming team.

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    Scott Reynolds

    I read all of your comments this morning before kickoff, Pewter Nation. I appreciate your passion and kind words – even when we disagree. You guys are THE BEST FANS! Thank you for taking the time to read my SR’s Fab 5 columns and visit PewterReport.com. Greatly appreciate it.

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