FAB 2. Bridgewater Is Worth A Mid-Round Pick – Now

A few weeks ago when Jameis Winston’s three-game suspension became official I floated the idea of Bucs general manager Jason Licht acquiring Teddy Bridgewater as an insurance policy – short-term and long-term – at the quarterback position. It would be a wise move, and other football commentators like Michael Lombardi have joined that chorus.

It would be a wise move to do now.

It’s fine if Licht, head coach Dirk Koetter, the Glazers and the rest of the Buccaneers organization still want to believe in Winston. I still do.

Jets QB Teddy Bridgewater - Photo by: Getty Images
Jets QB Teddy Bridgewater – Photo by: Getty Images

But from this day forward this franchise needs a starting-caliber quarterback to step in – possibly for an entire season or more. Winston’s three-game suspension means that he is one misstep away from a yearlong suspension, which would certainly mean his banishment from Tampa Bay.

Believe in Winston – but be prepared.

One more mistake would mean the Bucs and Licht – if he’s still here and survives a possible Winston implosion – would be searching for the team’s next franchise quarterback (again), unless he’s already on the roster.

I’m not saying Bridgewater is a franchise-caliber quarterback, especially after a gruesome knee injury that cost him the entire 2016 and majority of the ’17 season. That injury coupled with the rise of backup Case Keenum and the subsequent acquisition of Kirk Cousins in free agency made Bridgewater, the Vikings’ first-round pick in 2014, expendable in Minnesota.

The Louisville product signed a one-year deal with the New York Jets this offseason where he is currently third on the depth chart behind first-round pick Sam Darnold and veteran backup Josh McCown. He passed a physical in New York, which is a good sign as he tries to rebuild his NFL career at age 26 with a surgically rebuilt knee.

The knock in Bridgewater coming out of college was his frailty and his thin, 6-foot-2, 215-pound frame. After starting 28 games in his first two years, those concerns seemed to wane, but a gruesome knee injury in the 2016 offseason wound up validating them in the end.

Before his injury, Bridgewater completed 551-of-851 passes (64.7 percent) for 6,150 yards with 28 touchdowns and 22 interceptions and an 86.3 QB rating.

As a rookie, Bridgewater started 12 of the 13 games he played in, going 6-6 and completing 259-of-402 (64.4 percent) passes for 2,919 yards with 14 touchdowns and 12 interceptions for an 85.2 QB rating. One of those wins came at Tampa Bay in a 19-13 overtime victory in which Bridgewater completed 24-of-42 passes for 241 yards (57.1 percent) with one touchdown and no interceptions.

Former Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater - Photo by: Getty Images
Former Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater – Photo by: Getty Images

In his second year, Bridgewater helped lead the Vikings to an 11-5 record and the playoffs after he completed 292-of-447 (65.3 percent) of his passes for 3,231 yards with 14 touchdowns and nine interceptions. He posted a career-high 88.7 QB rating, and like any young quarterback, benefited from turning around and handing the ball off to Adrian Peterson, who rushed for 1,485 yards and 11 touchdowns that year.

In a crushing 10-9 playoff loss against Seattle, Bridgewater completed 17-of-24 passes (70.8 percent) for 146 yards with no touchdowns and no interceptions. The Vikings surrendered a 9-0 lead after three quarters and kicker Blair Walsh missed a 27-yard field goal with 22 seconds left.

Bridgewater made the Pro Bowl that year and completed 6-of-8 (75 percent) passes for 129 yards with two touchdowns and one interception in that game, which would be his last until December 17 of last year when he was inserted into a 34-7 blowout win against Cincinnati and was 0-of-2 with one interception.

Bridgewater is nearly seven months beyond that game and eager to show that he is healthy and has starter potential.

Licht has never been afraid of taking a gamble, whether it was on Winston and his character questions with the No. 1 overall pick in 2015, or drafting kicker Roberto Aguayo in the second round the next year. Taking a chance and acquiring Bridgewater now – before he has a chance to impress in the preseason and draws interest from other teams that may also need a quarterback – is worth it.

If Licht can burn a second-round pick on a kicker, why not try to flip a fourth-rounder for a quarterback that might have the potential to be a long-term starter option? Start by offering the Jets a fifth-round pick, and then move up to a fourth-rounder if they balk.

For New York, it can easily make a fourth-round pick just from signing Bridgewater in the offseason. With Darnold as the long-term No. 1 QB and McCown as the backup this year, Bridgewater is likely set to leave in 2019 if he has a good preseason because he only signed a one-year deal. Why not take the draft pick?

The worst-case scenario for Licht and the Bucs should they make the trade is that Bridgewater looks awful in the preseason and just doesn’t have the mobility and the confidence to play quarterback in the league anymore. If that’s the case, Tampa Bay is out a fourth- or a fifth-round pick next year.

The best-case scenario is that Bridgewater lights it up and outplays Ryan Griffin in the preseason. That could prompt the Bucs to throw some money at Bridgewater and sign him to a multi-year extension to justify spending a draft pick to acquire him. For Bridgewater, seeing Winston miss three games last year due to injury and three games this year due to a suspension, it’s not far-fetched to sense an opportunity and that there could be an opportunity in Tampa Bay.

Former Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater - Photo by: Getty Images
Former Vikings QB Teddy Bridgewater – Photo by: Getty Images

Bridgewater could give the Bucs a better, more talented backup in 2019 when Ryan Fitzpatrick retires and when Griffin’s contract is up. If Winston succumbs to another bad character issue and is jettisoned after being suspended, the Bucs would have a young, experienced quarterback waiting in the wings to step in immediately and save the season – if not the front office.

Then the Bucs could invest a top pick in a quarterback to challenge Bridgewater for the starting job without having to commit to starting a rookie. At the very least in this scenario, Bridgewater could serve as a bridge until the next drafted Bucs QB is ready to take the reins of the offense.

If after a couple of years Bridgewater seems ready to move on and Winston seems stable and more mature as he settles into family life and sobriety, then Licht could always draft another quarterback and deal Bridgewater for a higher draft pick than he originally invested in him.

The quarterback position is the most important in football, and for the 2018 campaign in Tampa Bay it seems like it’s in decent shape for the upcoming season. As for 2019 and beyond, the future looks hazy. Trading for Bridgewater now before his trade value potential escalates in the preseason would be one step in clearing up the Bucs’ big picture at quarterback.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 24th year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds spent six years giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his son's Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

89 COMMENTS

  1. Scott,

    I agree 100%. For well known reasons at FSU, I had hoped Bucs would pick Mariotta over Jameis. From what I have observed, he is learning to become more mature and dedicate himself to becoming a better man, husband, father and a professional football player. Jameis has two strikes. He is on the edge of throwing away his career. But I hope he continues on the right path. I am willing to give Jameis one more chance to not disappoint – off the field.

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    • What exactly are the 2 strikes? The way I see it, he has at least 3, and that’s just with the Bucs alone. Even if you don’t count each incident as a “strike”, it’s an embarrassing pattern that the Bucs keep enabling.

      1. Telling girls to be “silent”, after already having a history of sexual abusing women.
      2. Poking Marshon Lattimore
      3. Eating “W’s”
      4. Groping the Uber driver.
      5. Lying about it.
      6. A half-assed apology.

      Yes, I separated those three actions regarding what happened with the Uber driver because they were all separate decisions he made which show the true nature of his character. And yes, I’m holding him under a microscope. But when someone has as many red flags as he did coming out of college, that’s what you do. I really do hope Jameis stays away from alcohol and becomes a better man, a good father and husband, and even a good football player. But his time embarrassing Tampa Bay and the Bucs franchise should be over. This could be a very good team even without him, and it could be as early as this year with Fitzpatrick. I do think we should trade for Teddy Bridgewater. He was a first round pick and has won more than Winston.

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      • I fully agree.

        Scott says he’s sticking with Winston based on “putting a lot of stock into 5 things”. After reading those “things” its clear the last is what’s driving his decision: the Bucs have invested a ton in Winston (and he’s not easily replaced). While I disagree I would encourage anyone taking that position to just admit that they are overlooking the facts (he lied and attempted to impugn the driver), decisions (he issued a non-apology, now he’s sensitive about t-shirt articles) and noise (lots of rumors and guesses but the truth is only one person really knows what happened in that car… the other was apparently drunk out of his mind)… because you think he gives the Bucs the best chance to win. Spare his newborn son and recovering alcoholics everywhere from any efforts to add humanizing elements to what is a coldly rational (if distateful) evaluation.

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        • No WestChap, its clear YOU saw no.5 as the biggest reason. Not SR’s fault you ignored 1, 2, 3 and 4, which were all better arguments.

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      • Honey Bear, there is no way anyone can take you seriously with that list. Why didn’t you add 7) made it rain on Thursday 8) didn’t brush his teeth and floss 3x a day , 9) failed to wipe dry behind the ears 10) Allegedly ripped the tag off of his new mattress 11) incorrectly listed a 4.20 lunch as a deduction on his taxes 12) Made me write this silly elementary school list.

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  2. They absolutely should not trade for Teddy. Save that draft pick. And then for risk insurance draft a QB late next year.

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    • I grew up in Tampa and have been in MN for 10 years. I have watched almost every play of Teddy’s career. He is not a fit for the down the field offense the Bucs run at all. He’s a smart, short throw QB and a great person. He’s also boring as _____ and will be the next QB that many Bucs fans will be frustrated with as Vikings fans were.

      He’s a backup QB. I agree with you.

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      • Respect man. My main criticism for Teddy coming out of LV was his lack of arm strength. Didn’t see the amount of zip necessary to fit it into those much tighter NFL windows.

        However I gotta say that he outperformed my expectations with the Vikings and Pat Shurmur’s QB friendly, short passing offense. But yeah, he definitely does not fit into Dirks 4 vert based scheme, which puts a tremendous load of responsibility on the QB to read the seams and be able to fit the ball into tight spots down the field.

        That’s actually one of my main critiques of Dirk Koetter, their aren’t enough plays designed to scheme somebody open right away and get the ball out of the QB’s hand with ease. We need more drag routes, more slants, and more “pick/rub” plays designed to get some yac outta our extremely talented catch & run players like Djax, Godwin, OJ, and Hump.

        AND I WANT MORE RB SCREENS! Sims and Rojo are fast nimble guys, Dirk needs to put an emphasis on getting them in space.

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    • I agree with you. Skip Bridgewater. He’s likely done. Sad but true. He was a helluva college star and he made a few great plays at Minnesota, but mostly he was unimpressive. Case Keenum was better. I rest my case.

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  3. Trading for Bridgewater now is a smart move as long as you aren’t overpaying. I’d be fine with a 5th; a 4th is pushing it (considering that Day 2/early Day 3 is where Licht’s made his money as a drafter), and anything higher would be a no-go. But Griffin’s shown nothing to prove why he should remain on this team (in a world without the Jameis incident + suspension, he would be an easy cut at the end of training camp) and Bridgewater’s our best shot at an affordable long-term backup plan.

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  4. Great fab 5 .
    Winston will end up being a great QB. The Bucs would be smart to see what Jamies can do over the next two years.

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  5. You must live in world of cute little fairy’s and unicorns that poop butterfly’s
    I can not count how many people I know that stopped drinking and started again
    I assume the percentage is 90%
    All the problems that surfaced in collage have surfaced in NFL
    Cut him now and begin a new life with QB that understand there role.
    Even with out off field issues he has been a loser.
    If he goes off the reservation again the damage to the team and owners will be huge.
    Why take a risk on a loser?

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    • Did any of those people have 100 million dollars on the line to stay sober?

      Why take the risk? Scott just wrote an entire article on why to take the risk.

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    • You know who also was about to be banned by the NFL because he a 3 DUI’s? Jared Allen Chiefs didn’t resign him and he Stop drinking and signed a big contract with Minnesota. Averaged over 14 sacks a season with them as well. So yes people can stop drinking when there’s Millions involved.

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    • Calling a man who is trying to better his life with a new wife, a child, and potential sobriety, is flat out disgusting. The only loser is you. 10 to 1 you’ve done NOTHING with your life, other than bash everyone else on social media. Real class act

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      • Calling a man out that treats women like garbage. Thousands of men marry their babymama for the sake of the lil [email protected]@rd. Doesn’t change anything.

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        • Lord Jameis Christ,
          You have no idea what you are talking about. He’s a sloppy drunk that gets extra friendly. When he’s sober he’s completely different. Cutting alcohol out is the best thing he can do the better himself. He didn’t marry is baby mama which was an idiotic comment, because they’ve been dating since high school. They live together, so yeah that’s not a “baby mama”.

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      • This comment makes no sense. Winston’s NFL record is 18-27. That qualifies the “loser” comment. If we are going to start looking at his personal life, he isn’t a “loser”, he has made millions of dollars, has a family, and has gotten away with sexually abusing women with virtually no consequences. I would say that just makes him a low life and a creep. When he makes up for what he did, and lives clean for a few years, then we can reevaluate.

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        • Sorry, but like most people, I don’t think Jameis’s behavior in Arizona with the Uber driver in 2016 is grounds for termination. He acknowledged and apologized for putting the driver in a bad situation and gave up drinking subsequently. He has remained sober by all accounts since. She is satisfied, why aren’t you? He is human and made a mistake. Be thankful he isn’t Shady McCoy. That guy is truly a piece of shit. Jameis is not.

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  6. Excellent view of the Jameis situation, Scott.

    You literally share my exact sentiment of this situation. You hit on every single aspect of how I feel this should be viewed.

    I would like to add that what Jameis did is ridiculous. Assuming he did grope that driver. It’s something that not many people can forgive and I respect that. He needs to learn from it and this may be the best way to do so. However, we don’t know for certain that he did and will never know. It’s America and people are innocent until proven guilty. He was NOT proven guilty. We should be mindful of that.

    This could be a blessing in disguise and give Jameis the motivation to mature more than any other influence in his life. It’s time to put his head down and work for his family. I couldn’t imagine behaving as I do now at 31 when I was 24, but he has to. It comes with the territory of fame and wealth.

    I think a lot of the people that want him gone are thinking with their hearts, respectfully so. But this is also a business. We cannot crucify those that want to keep working with him. He is not going anywhere and considering other player’s mistakes and actions taken in the past (Big Ben, Kobe, etc.) it’s the right thing to do. Not to mention it’s been one offense like you had stated 2.5 years ago. People change and it seems he already may have. We haven’t had a franchise QB in our history and all the educated fans know this guy’s ceiling is through the roof. I’m not saying that’s the sole reason to keep him, however it is the smart business decision. Everything we have seen has been exemplary and I expect it to not only continue but for him to mature and astound the doubters.

    We are about to witness the most motivated Jameis of his life and it could be a really special thing.

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    • What “proves” guilt? A picture of the grope? “Could have been photoshopped!” Audio??? “Oh that’s not his voice!” A video?? “It’s blurry, that could be anyone!”

      Innocent people don’t lie. He was caught red-handed in multiple lies with GPS evidence and the testimony of his “friend”. The Uber driver is not seeking money or fame, so she had absolutely no reason to say anything but the absolute truth. Jameis has no defense, he was extremely drunk and accepted his punishment, followed by a half assed apology.

      I hope Jameis is motivated. But not in football, that doesn’t matter in this situation. He needs to be motivated to stay away from alcohol and be a better human being.

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      • That’s true but for you to suggest guilt is a fact with the evidence supported is just silly. Nobody knows but them two. It’s likely he did it but not guaranteed so stop acting like your opinion is the end all be all.

        Also GPS evidence pointed out he was alone for the second car ride. There were 2! He may have been referencing the first and forgot about the second.

        He needs to grow up still though, yes.

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  7. “The second factor I’m looking at is that Winston’s alleged incident with the Uber driver happened in March of 2016. That’s almost two and a half years ago.”

    Scott, why do you (and others) continually and intentionally overlook the fact that he flat-out lied bout the incident (and in some ways, shame the alleged victim) to the press, fans, and owners of the Bucs?

    It’s intellectual dishonesty.

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    • Just like there is not a definitive answer to if he did grope the driver, there may never be a definitive answer to if he lied. There is still a possibility he isn’t lying or didn’t remember.

      It was some time ago and he was drunk. Do you remember what happened February 27th, 2016 at 2 a.m. after drinking all night? It seems he may have been just as surprised as we are.

      Not saying what he did was right, just playing devil’s advocate.

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      • This is asinine. GPS evidence and the testimony of his friend prove he lied. And innocent people don’t lie. It’s time to stop pretending like he might be innocent in all this. He is guilty, he “apologized”, and he should be released from the Bucs.

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        • He was drunk and his memory isn’t reliable. Hers is though. She didn’t file a police report but did notify Uber. He apologized for putting her in that situation. He wasn’t just “friendly” with her. He was also loud and obnoxious when he and the other players were getting in the vehicle. She wasn’t a fan. She didn’t even know who he was. It isn’t as deep as you’re making it. GPS evidence??? That’s what is asinine. It doesnt matter. He was drunk and made a bad pass.

          Quit watching if you want, but it doesn’t matter. He isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

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          • Exactly BucWild.

            GPS evidence proves guilt is by far the most asinine comment on here. What a hypocritical comment.

            The testimony of Darby, his friend, stated they were in the back seat. He was referencing the first car ride which is not a lie. LOL Fact check before you condescend others Honey Boo Boo.

            It’s getting pathetic seeing Bucs fans beg for him to be let go. I hope you’re extremely angry when he balls out.

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    • Because people like Scott don’t really care about these allegations. All that’s happened since is that both Scott and Mark have defended Winston and highlighted all his positives since. Even though most of these arguments are puerile and ignore the real issues – like Winston fabricating a whole story. Or how about the fact that shamed the victim?

      to some people these things don’t matter and Scott is one of those people.

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    • Exactly right Donkey Hunter! This article says he did this 2 years ago. All the lying and covering up has been ongoing ever since! Cut Winston.

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      • NOBODY is cutting Winston, Honey Bear. You’re getting yourself all worked up for nothing and you just look silly.

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  8. It’s been 3 years now of ‘not giving up on Winston’ and all we see is regression. Sure his QB rating went up, but his Red Zone completion % fell below 50%. That’s where the games are won. Also, his fumbles increased and his deep ball is still mostly incompletions.

    A 3 win year in what 11 games is hardly hope for improvement.

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    • And yet you completely ig ore the fact that 4 of those losses were 4th quarter defensive collapses and missed field goals. But heck Jameis needs to start playing linebacker and kicker according to you right? Did you miss the game GB won without their QB even throwing a pass in their last two drives? Did you miss the 3 misses fg that wouldve beaten new England? Did you miss tyrod damn Taylor taking 45 seconds to tie a game only to watch Humphries fumble the game away? Did you kiss another chip shot missed fg and swaggy jumping offsides against Carolina? Apparently you didn’t watch any of those games.

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      • I didn’t miss the GB game. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t that the one where Winston literally handed them a potential 14-point swing in a 6-point loss.

        That GB game?

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      • Or the Vikings game where Case Keenum did his best Joe Montana impression by putting up 4 TD’s on the Vikes first 6 drives. But according to half these JW hating clowns, it was all on him because he threw 3 picks. Well no sh*t, what’s he supposed to do, be “smart” and throw checkdowns, when the Vikings are scoring on every single possession? The lack of football knowledge in these article forums is downright laughable at times

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        • HAHA Dave you are so right!

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  9. I think Fitz wins 2 of the first 3 games. Winston won’t be ready until after the bye, so Fitz will start in Chicago too. Once he is 3-1 and looking good who will want interception and fumble master Winston to come back?

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    • Casey Morgan. I say this with all due respect. You’re a complete moron. Let me be VERY clear…Ryan Fitzpatrick is an absolute joke. Facing the Eagles, Steelers and Saints, the Bucs will be 0-3, Fitz will have 10+ TO’s, and everyone will be reminded of the ridiculous gap in talent between Fitz and Winston. And then(and apparently ONLY then) i can finally stop hearing moronic Bucs fans stop talking about “Fitz went 2-1 as a starter” god almighty, get over that. There’s a reason he’s a backup. And you’ll be reminded of that reason after the first 3 games

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    • “Winston wont be ready until after the bye.” What a stupid thing to say. Stop embarrassing yourself.

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  10. Well said brother, well said.

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  11. Fully enjoyed the article Scott. In the sea of “Gloom and Doom,” for the Buc’s by so many others it was refreshing to read a fair assessment of Jameis and a logical argument for Bridgewater. I even agree with most of your 53 man roster projection. While Winston is a wait and see proposition, for all the reasons you addressed I am optimistic his off field behavior will continue to improve however I am only cautiously optimistic that his on-field performance will improve. Surely Licht has provided players with the potential to win and weapons that hopefully Jameis can use to get us into the playoffs. I am not a fan of nor advocate for another coaching and management capitulation in 2019. In regards to Bridgewater, I would support a trade simply because I have little confidence Ryan and would take the risk for a potential starter.

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  12. Id offer a 6th for bridgewater at the most.

    Jets are going to end up cutting him anyway if McCown beats him out

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    • I agree about them cutting Teddy. He’s done.

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  13. What has Winston done on the field ??? nothing special as he is rated average with all the receivers. After being the 1st pick in the draft Winston has shown NOT to be a leader and should NOT be the face of the bucs.

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    • Shocker a Mariota fan boy thinks that. Read my comments below to show what hes done on the field. But I’m sure you’ll just ignore the facts as usual.

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  14. Great fab 5 Scott. Jameis will absolutely handle this the right way. He is one qb who can deal with that adversity and eliminate the noise. Yoyll have your clowns like a few above who would rather dump him like morons, but those of us with common sense , know his fate will be decided on the field this year. Heres a fun fact for the people who completely disregard his play. In his first 45 games compared to hall of Famer Drew Brees, ben rothlesburger, tomBrady, and Brett farve, Jameis has a better quarterback rating, more yards, and that’s right, a better td to int ratio than all four of them. But our football ” experts” and sjw’s say we should cut him. Dumb sums it up.
    I like signing teddy as a back up. Hes young and I liked him coming out of Louisville.
    Hes not special but hes very serviceable. Our special teams have been the opposite of that the last couple of years. I mean how can other teams pick kickers up off the street that never miss and we cant get one field goal kicker worth a crap? Cant wait for the season to get here.

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    • Perfectly said Cg !

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    • Do you believe Winston is a leader after not being truthful with the coaches or fans? He also has NOT shown as much accuracy with the long ball. (Not necessarly M.M. fan but M.M. has been rated higher then Winston by the nfl every year , so make your excuses.).

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      • Jameis has better stats and is ranked higher than Marcus.

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        • nope

          MM has significantly better total qbr than winston, was rated vastly higher by pff based on game tape analysis, mm started more games amd won way more games, took his team to the playoffs, won a playoff game … while winston took his team to 3-10, and a 3 game suspension this year for drunkenly groping a female and then lying about it for the last year.

          In what alternate universe do you exist in.

          Facts. Unassailable fact, no matter how much the winston fanboys furiously spin, make dumb excuses and attack winston’s victims.

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  15. If our 12 overall draft pick can’t start as a rookie, it does not bode well for his future. Early first round picks should be immediate contributors. Hoping I’m wrong, but I still think passing on Derwin James will come back to haunt the Bucs.

    If Teddy can be acquired for a fourth rounder or later, I’d pull the trigger. He’s on a good contract and the Bucs have no future certainty in the QB room.

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    • A little trip down Memory Lane. Warren Sapp (12th pick in the Draft) couldn’t beat out Santana Dotson his rookie year. Just sayin.

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      • Fair point

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  16. Excuse making for Winston continues. I never liked him, but I hung in and hoped for the best. After 3 years of uneven performances, lots of losing, and a new p-grabbing drama to deal with, plus his phony choir-boy and hard work BS, I’m done. I’m ready for any QB besides Winston. Fuck that guy.

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    • buccaneersNW – What will you do if the Bucs sign him to a long term deal? Quit watching? Worse yet, what if you get your wish and the Bucs release him and shady ass New Orleans picks him up to replace a retiring Drew Brees and he dominates. I bet you’ll blame the Bucs owners for releasing him if that happens.

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  17. Keep Jamies for the long haul. This is just such an over reaction. The guy was drunk, made a pass and backed off. The stuff with Kinsman was garbage from the get go – not one of numerous investigations ever found Jamies culpable. The guy didn’t murder anyone for Pete’s sake. And Tom Jones is an idiot. Why we should care what he thinks is beyond me.

    Regarding Bridgewater, I’ve posted I loved this guy a few years ago. But he’s not that guy anymore. All this Do Something Now discussion is a waste of time and a distraction. The 2018 season will be the deciding factor. If Jamies crashes and burns, we go out and TRADE for a new starter. No more rookies QB’s. Our roster is coming around, and as it matures, why start all over again with a rookie.

    I like the roster analysis. It’s early and this is the fun stuff. How abut we start focusing on that. Jamies isn’t going anywhere for the foreseeable future. Let’s just move on.

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  18. Bringing Bridgwater in makes no sense at all. He’s not as good as Winston, but more importantly like Winston at this point he’s not a franchise QB. So if you bring him over we are still working with a place holder it’s same boat we’ve always been in and it should be clear at this point that doesn’t lead to consistency.

    We just hold what we have see how the season plays out. Regardless what happens we draft a QB #1, a accurate one and groom him. If we don’t need him fine if we do he’s there.

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    • The article clearly states that Bridgewater would be the backup QB. How he compares to Winston isnt relevant.

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  19. I wouldn’t waste a 2019 draft pick on trading for anybody at this point in time.
    What I would do is trade one of our players in a swap; we do have some positions of quality depth..

    Just my opinion but we do have an issue at QB for the first 3 games and we do need to have a better backup quarterback at the number 3 spot; Griffin is untested and not the answer.

    I think we still have a need at running back; hard for me to understand the logic of keeping Sims.

    Good article Scott.

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    • Have been waiting for us to cut Sims for two years….

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  20. There are always the blue nosed prigs who can point the finger at others and most of them have done worse things than groping an Uber driver. The Bucs have a magical way of parting with talent that makes a splash for their new team. Aqib Talib and LeGarrette Blount are two that come to mind. After this season we can probably add Doug Martin to the list. I’m tired of the flip flopping and standing on high moral ground, it’s time to think about winning football games. Winston groped the uber gal 2 years ago. Hopefully he has learned a lesson. The NFL is full of crap with this McCarthyism type bullshit and Roger Goodell is the most over paid executive in entire history of the world.

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    • So according to you everybody that does not rape and assault females is a blue nosed prig?

      Anybody who would write or say such an obnoxious abusive slander as you just did is by definition an abusive asshole. You are.

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  21. On your 53 Scott, not sure the Bucs won’t part ways with Humphries, keeping Wilson. Bobo had one catch, touchdown, how many touchdowns Hump have? As for our O line being set, I’ll believe it when I see Dotson play again. Pass on Bridgewater.

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  22. Hey Scott, I have a question for ya,

    Do you have any locker room media insight as to why Josh Robinson is strictly a special teamer and never really given the opportunity to play on defense? A 27 yr old CB now converted into a safety with a 4.31 forty seems a bit odd as to his lack of chances in the secondary. He flashed potential in Minnesota before us as a talented CB. Have any of the coaches ever really divulged the reason for this?

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  23. Like you said here Scott. IF….Winston improves. I’m certainly not seeing that yr to yr improvement I’d thought we’d see. In a way, I’m glad all of this backdoor Jameis crap is brightly shining in the forefront. This kid has gotten more than his fair share of Mulligans on and off the field. He’s under the microscope now..Hell, Telescope!! Winning makes fans sorta forgive. Lose and they continue to say, See, I told you So!!! The only way out for Mr. Winston is to lead and start Winning. Lose and get the walmart reel & rod off season special with Koetter and Smitty!!!

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  24. I guess I’m part of the 10 percent of the people who the writer “assumed” were able to stop drinking when they said they would. From attending AA meetings and other outreach events, I can assure you the number is much higher but the writer is correct in his assumption that there is no guarantee to sobriety.
    Tom Jones also wanted to get rid of Aqib Talib and he got his wish and of course Talib went on to become an All-Pro. Talib is no sterling character that is for sure, but for some strange reason, I still wish he was here. Thanks Jones.
    As far as I see the Winston situation, Jameis got drunk made a pass at a girl and she said no and he stopped. And for that he gets a three game suspension. Give me a break. If he had continued to try and grope the girl after she said no, then throw the book at him. But he stopped on request or when she made hi feel awkward or foolish.
    I kissed a girl one night when I thought it was okay and she slapped me. Should I have been arrested for assault of should she have been. I stopped after that but she didn’t have to slap me. A simple, “don’t do that again,” would have sufficed.”
    Thank god the time to charge me is way past.
    Oh, and I was drinking at the time, too. Misread the signals.
    Cgmaster I am way behind you and your assessments of Winston and his record last year.
    Winston is always going to throw interceptions, the one thing I really hope he improves on is his ball security and stops fumbling. Some aren’t his fault but other times he needs to just go down and live to fight another day like he didn’t do in the Green Bay game.
    Still, he led the team back and if not for a putrid defense against a backup QB who we put no pressure on, the Bucs should have won that game and the Carolina game.
    It does appear from recent reports that Winston has developed somewhat of a chip on his shoulder which I am all for. I have no problem with that or his trainer wearing a t-shirt that says, “Winston vs. the World.”
    Oh and one more thing, as usual.
    For all of those who want Winston fired because of his failed pass attempt against the Uber driver, in the future, when you post those feelings, would you please add that Donnie Trump shouldn’t be President and should resign for his repeated transgressions against women.
    Hey great Fab 5. Really loved it.

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    • drdneast, I really like your thought processes on the football portions of your posts. I disagree with ALL of your political thought processes but that just shows, in America you can have differing opinions but still communicate with respect and like our fellow Brothers and Sisters.

      Go Bucs and go USA!

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  25. Why would we trade a franchise quarterback for a backup? Nothing personal towards Bridgewater and Jameis is my quarterback in all honesty.

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  26. Winston is a POS that treats women like property. You don’t just grow out of that.

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    • You are welcomed to bandwagon for another Team. Just simply….go away….

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    • Our president treats women like property too. This thing starts at the top.

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  27. I concur with your last two statements Buc-n-Philly Fan.
    Now Lord Jameis Christ, are you ready to state that Donnie Trump is the same way, if not worse, and he should resign from his office for engaging in the same behavior on many more occasions than Winston has.
    Please be consistent.

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  28. Good article. Agree with a lot. It definitely Would be smart to have Teddy if it’s just a fourth rd pick., and has more to do with our QB line up than me worrying Winston will get in trouble again or stink it up when he comes back. I have no faith in Griffin. Fitzpatrick is gone after this year, If He gets hurt Bucs are screwed royal IMO. Griffin has done nothing except suck in preseason And get hurt. Not sure what they see in Him really.

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  29. Well getting butt hurt about what Auman said and responding to it shows a nice big fat step backwards. He has time to respond to media about a bunch of BS but still hasn’t addressed the fans who actually matter. Who’s in charge of his PR? Probably a bunch of his buddies from Alabama flippin a coin on how to handle these situations.

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  30. I totally agree, Scott. Bridgewater would be a great backup QB to replace Fritz when he retires and we need to get him now before his value skyrockets. He is a very accurate passer and stays cool in the pocket. As far as the criticism that he does not have the arm strength that Jameis has, I have not been happy with the seven second drop backs that Koetter keeps trying to run because we don’t have the quality LT we need to hold off sackers that long and that results in a lot of sacks and fumbles. Look at the Saints passing game with the three step drops which enabled them to win our Division last year.

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  31. As usual, we are subjected to the continued regurgitation of folks’ predetermined opinions of a story that, does little more than serve to the needs of the “fans” who are still waving the Marcus Mariota banner. The of course, DrD can’t give his otherwise logical viewpoint without getting political on what is supposedly a football site. I really don’t care what the Titans QB does on or off the field.

    It’s just comical to me how some are so utterly pompous that they actually believe only they bask in a flawless, ultra moral high ground world (Tom Jones is Mayor) looking down their collective noses at anyone who has not achieved their level of sainthood. From their cyber pulpit, they are unable to comprehend, and certainly unable to accept, that peop0le do make poor decisions that don’t necessarily have to define them for life. Of course when they struggle to make a valid point there’s always an F-bomb to launch.

    I liked Teddy Bridgewater in college, but at this point it looks like he’s going to be Sam Bradford lite.

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    • Thumbs up on this comment all the way around!

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    • Scubog, I never waved the Marcus Mariota banner in 2015, I fully supported the pick of Jameis at the time with what I knew of the original rape accusation. But like some others I am willing to admit when I’m wrong on someone, so your premise that only Mariota fans are taking Winston to task for this is complete and total BS. Some of us are capable of learning based on new information while others refuse to give in and justify their feelings no matter the change in circumstances Scott Reynolds

      And to your point that we must all be taking some great moral high ground to judge the guy, he was literally accused of rape in college by a girl who went to the hospital the night they had sex, then less than a year after being drafted he was accused of groping an Uber driver while being drunk out of his mind. He denied them both and it took a 9 month NFL investigation to show he lied about his alibi to the second allegation. Yeah, I can firmly say I haven’t gone to the lengths Jameis has with women or lying to cover up my transgressions.

      It is possible to challenge someones behavior when serious allegations are involved. It doesn’t make anyone a hypocrite to be concerned about rape or sexual assault if you can honestly say no one has gone to the hospital after a night of sleeping with you or complained to their boss after giving you a ride which results in a total ban from Uber.

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      • This may come as a shock to you Devasher……..Not everything is about you. I didn’t say it was ONLY Mariota fans, but you can bet that those folks are thumping their “I told you so” chests with glee. There are plenty herein who have bemoaned the Winston choice and have been hoping to see him fail from the start. Apparently you missed all of the continued statistical comparisons fans like Naples dig up.

        No one is condoning Winston’s alleged “cooter touching” in which, like the Tallahassee incident, was no criminal charge.

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        • “subjected to the continued regurgitation of folks’ predetermined opinions ”

          My point is your premise is off. You are generalizing that the opinions presented are predetermined. My example is to show that my opinion was not, there are others who stated they previously supported Winston and stopped and it flushes your “predetermined” piece down the drain. But sure, some people are saying they “told ya so” and Winston is one more allegation from guaranteeing they are right.

          “No one is condoning Winston’s alleged “cooter touching”

          No one is condoning it? Several people here have stated it was a minor deal, trashed the uber driver as a “gold digger” hypothesized she flirted with him as justification, said he backed off, said Ben Roethlisberger is worse, expressed their own experience grabbing women “I even got LAID a few times for being bold. ” as BucWild02 stated under the Randy Moss article.

          That’s a whole lot of “not condoning it” scubog.

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  32. Scubog, I agree with you totally.
    The only reason I bring Donnie up is I believe a good deal of the diatribes directed against Winston have an underlying tone of racism.
    I didn’t see half the hysterical furor created in the media when Ben Rothlesberger was charged with mauling a woman despite her protests although it did come out that Big Ben had a history of such behavior.
    And I can bet the number of Steeler fans calling for the team to get rid of him was far less.
    The same could be said about Kobe Bryant.
    Here is what we do know about the Uber incident. When the young woman said stop, Winston stopped. Whether the woman thought she was being groped of Winston thought he was making a pass is what we don’t know.
    As for me, the behavior didn’t warrant a 3 game suspension, at the most two. It certainly doesn’t even come close to Big Ben’s sexual mauling that got a 4 game suspension.
    As for me, if I ever read another Tom Jones of Martin Fennelly story again it will be to soon for me.
    Jones is a sanctimonious elitist bore and Fennelly is the same but also a snide little twirp.

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    • Ben Roethlisberger was not charged with rape but was accused of it, much like Winston was accused of rape in college. If you want to fully believe Roethlisberger raped a woman because of the accusations against him but simultaneously deny Winston did anything wrong with Kinsman or the Uber driver, that’s on you. It is possible they both did bad things on the nights they were alleged.

      Regarding the race angle, I haven’t heard anyone really defend Roethlisberger here, the white guy, but I have heard lots of defenses for Winston here, the black guy.

      OJ Simpson had the cops called on him several times for domestic violence and was still a celebrity getting lots of work until the double homicide. Bill Cosby had decades of allegedly drugging and raping women before he was finally taken to task, from, of all things a viral video from a black comedian. Donte Stallworth killed a man in a DUI and served 24 days of a month sentence. Michael Vick seems to have rebounded his image a bit after running a dog fighting ring. It’s not always as simple as “Black and White.”

      It’s not like fans dont still have signs for Ben Rapelisberger. Like Big Ben and Vick, Jameis can rebound somewhat from this if he can keep his nose clean but make no mistake, everyone knew the baggage he had coming out of FSU. To put himself in the position he did is on him, not on anyone else.

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    • I don’t see any “racism” here, but who knows what’s in some folks minds…….on both sides. The racism card gets played too often when all other legitimate arguments fail.

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    • I think for me it’s hard not to think about Roethlisberger in the context of what’s happened with Winston recently. I’m not trying to engage in whataboutism with these two, but considering how much this has been raised already in this thread, I’ll share my thoughts. I want to say first, I haven’t watched the documentary or know the specifics about his alleged rape at FSU. So that’s perhaps some willful ignorance on my part. At the end of the day, neither Roethlisberger or Winston were charged. But Roethlisberger was charged with sexual assault twice and in both cases the women said he forcibly raped them. That’s at stark odds with what is alleged in Arizona at least. He was drunk and did something criminal, was confronted, and at least had the wherewithal to stop.

      To me, that’s why he gets one more chance to get his act together. If Roethlisberger was allowed another chance, so too should Winston. I’ve changed my mind about Winston too, but I still think he deserves a chance to continue his career in Tampa… With the understanding that one more mistake will finish it in Tampa and perhaps with the league.

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  33. I agree with you on all your points here Scott. Despite the opinions of many on here, the fact he got a 3 game suspension is proof enough that there was nothing to go on or the NFL would’ve hit him with much more. Even if he did grope the driver (which wouldn’t be acceptable), in her own words he stopped when she addressed it. Let’s not compare getting touchy with rape like I see many of you on here doing. Fact is though, the NFL would never offer a 3 game suspension for inappropriate touching, so obviously there was a lack of anything proving the event happened.

    Trading for Teddy should only be an option for a 5th or 6th round price tag. His skillset isn’t really made for Dirk’s vertical style offense but he can be a decent backup “game manager” type for cheap. As several have said, round 3-5 seems to be Licht’s money rounds so I’d hate to give up a pick in that range for a QB who doesn’t really fit the mold. I’d rather see what we can find in the draft.

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  34. He lied about who was in the car. This is the second time he has been accused of sexual misconduct. Why does this keep happening to him. I don’t think he should be involved with football period. Until he gives us full disclosure. Not a lie or booze excuse. He has not been held accountable about these allegations. The NFL should be an honor to be involved with, not a right What we do know by his own admission he can’t handle his booze. How can you be a leader of men & you can’t handle your oil. (booze). That is almost unamerican. He thinks or wants us to think booze his problem. Without owning up to his behaviors he does not think he has problem. But he has serious issue with the truth & sexual misconduct allegations. I think he should tell the world the truth and take responsibility about his lies and whatever else we don’t know. He should be forced to answer all national medias questions about both allegations basically bare his soul to the world. And then disclose how he is going to get help for his issues. Then and only then should the Bucs & Tampa Bay should embrace him & help him become a better human being. Because he will have shown the world he wants to change. Something like Brandon Marshall did by telling the world he had a borderline personality disorder. Is he a predator or is he entitled sports figure who thinks he can get away with it. Either way he needs help, beyond a three game suspension. Yo Mr. Reynolds how the adult females in your family feel about Winston? If does not bare soul to the world he should be kicked out of football on every level. All eyes on him, they will give him the tools destroy himself if he allows it. It is not always about wins & losses, guys. Winston need to hear Tupac’s mother. All that charity work with kids is bull, he is sending the wrong message unless he gives full disclosure about everything kids can see straight thru a liar. To many questions to be answered for him to be crowned good for the kids of any community. Stand up Jameis & face da music live in person in every espn loving living room across America let Stephen A. Smith do the exclusive. Right now he the Bucs & the NFL looks like a cowards running from the truth.

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