Bucs GM Jason Licht and head coach Dirk Koetter - Photo by: Scott Reynolds/PR
SR’s Fab 5 is a collection of inside scoop, analysis and insight from yours truly, PewterReport.com publisher and Bucs beat writer Scott Reynolds. Here are a few things that caught my attention this week at One Buc Place and around the NFL.
FAB 1. LICHT MAKING HIS MARK WITH ROSTER IMPROVEMENTS IN TAMPA BAY
That means it’s Jason Licht time in Tampa Bay.
This is when Licht, a self-proclaimed “meathead scout,” gets to make his mark on the Buccaneers.
Sure, Licht will sign players in virtually every month from now through December as new options become available and injuries occur. But the most impactful players Licht will add will come in the months of March and April when free agency and the NFL Draft take place.
Licht and his scouts have joined head coach Dirk Koetter and Tampa Bay’s assistants in Indianapolis for the NFL Scouting Combine this week with two missions. First, it’s to interview and collect information on the top prospects in the 2017 NFL Draft. And second, it’s to continue negotiations with the agents of the Bucs’ pending free agents.
Licht, who was worked in personnel for the likes of Tom Heckert in Philadelphia, Bill Belichick in New England and Steve Keim in Arizona, is entering his fourth season as Tampa Bay’s general manager having learned a lot of lessons in short order.
Bucs GM Jason Licht and former head coach Lovie Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
In his first season in 2014 he learned the lesson that good teams aren’t built through free agency with high-priced players. He learned it’s much better to admit a personnel mistake – and move on quickly rather than being stubborn and hanging on to a failing player for ego’s sake.
After the 2015 season he had to fire the man that hired him, head coach Lovie Smith, after two underwhelming seasons and operating with a regressing defensive system that was going nowhere. Licht identified what was working – the offensive side of the ball, which was led by offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter – and replaced Smith with Koetter, his first-ever head coaching hire in 2016.
Although the Bucs missed the playoffs by one game, the team did finish with a 9-7 record, Tampa Bay’s first winning season since 2010, and Licht’s fingerprints were all over it, from Koetter’s hiring and the addition of defensive coordinator Mike Smith, to the players Licht has acquired in free agency and the draft. Now that Licht and his scouts have filled the team with enough players to win, it’s time to find the new Buccaneers that are going to put Tampa Bay into the playoffs and in contention for a Super Bowl title.
Before the Bucs begin the process of adding more talent, let’s take a look back on how Licht has shaped the roster and review some of the lessons he’s learned in free agency and in the draft.
2014 Free Agent Additions
QB Josh McCown
McCown had played for Smith in Chicago and that was the quarterback Smith wanted to lead the offense instead of Mike Glennon, so Licht signed him to be a stop-gap solution at the position.
LT Anthony Collins
Collins was a player that Smith had scouted from his basement in Chicago during his year off from football, so he and Licht decided to move on from Donald Penn and sign Collins, a part-time starter for the Bengals, which proved to be a mistake.
DE Michael Johnson
Johnson was signed against Licht’s better judgment, but that’s the defensive end that Smith wanted for his defense despite his spotty track record as a pass rusher in Cincinnati.
DT Clinton McDonald (98) and former Bucs DE Michael Johnson (90) – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
DT Clinton McDonald
Licht was attracted to McDonald’s work ethic, ability to rush the passer from the nose tackle position and his Super Bowl championship experience with Seattle.
TE Brandon Myers
Myers was getting a little long in the tooth, but he was a versatile, all-around, veteran tight end that could catch the ball and block in the ground game.
CB Alterraun Verner
When Licht cut Darrelle Revis and his $16 million base salary he replaced him with Verner, who was coming off a Pro Bowl season in Tennessee with five interceptions.
C Evan Smith
Smith had a little starting experience in Green Bay and had the toughness and intelligence Licht and offensive line coach George Warhop were looking for in a center.
CB Mike Jenkins
Smith always had a fondness for Jenkins and signed the local USF product to compete for a starting cornerback job in Tampa Bay.
Summary: The Glazers wanted Smith and Licht to make a splash in free agency and get the players necessary to “win now” in 2014 after the Bucs finished with a disappointing 4-12 season in Greg Schiano’s last season the year prior. Licht dutifully signed a lot of the players Smith had directed him to get and some of those signings – notably McCown, Collins and Johnson – were some painful mistakes and were released after just one season.
2015 Free Agent Additions
LB Bruce Carter
Carter was a player Licht was very excited about due to his speed and coverage ability in Dallas where he had five interceptions in 2014, and he was the biggest free agent signing in Tampa Bay in 2015.
S Chris Conte
Conte had played for Smith in Chicago and was signed to a one-year deal to start at safety in Tampa Bay due to his familiarity with the Tampa 2 scheme.
Former Bucs DT Henry Melton – Photo by: Getty Images
DT Henry Melton
Melton was signed to a one-year deal to provide some depth at both the three-technique and nose tackle positions.
CB Sterling Moore
Moore had a good year in Dallas in 2014 as a nickel cornerback, and while he flashed as a cornerback and a nickel in Tampa Bay, he didn’t have a team-first attitude.
Summary: Licht took a much more restrained approach to free agency after spending too freely in 2014. To the surprise of many, Carter was beaten out for the starting middle linebacker job by Kwon Alexander, a fourth-round draft pick in 2015, and was relegated to backup duty for most of the season. He lasted just one season in Tampa Bay before being released due to his bloated salary. Conte proved to be a good signing, while Melton and Moore were just one-year players in Tampa Bay.
2016 Free Agent Additions
CB Brent Grimes
Grimes was signed due to his familiarity with Mike Smith’s scheme and he showed that at age 33 he could still play at a high level, evidenced by his pick-six against Carolina in Week 17 that proved to be huge in a 17-16 season-ending victory.
DE Robert Ayers
An ankle injury in Week 2 limited Ayers to 12 games last year, but he was an effective pass rusher at defensive end and inside at defensive tackle in nickel defense, and had a tremendous impact in helping developing second-round pick Noah Spence.
G J.R. Sweezy
The Bucs didn’t get a chance to have Sweezy’s help in 2016 as a back injury required surgery that had a longer than expected recovery time. He’ll be back in the mix at guard this year after getting medically cleared to resume practicing.
Bucs P Bryan Anger – Photo by: Mark Lomoglio/PR
CB Josh Robinson
Robinson didn’t see the field on defense but made his mark on special teams where he led the team in tackles and was critical in helping down several Bryan Anger punts deep inside the Bucs’ opponents’ territory.
P Bryan Anger
Anger signed a one-year deal and was highly motivated to prove himself after Jacksonville parted ways with him. He had a career-high 37 punts downed inside the 20, which greatly helped Tampa Bay’s defense.
Summary: Licht continued to his practice of only signing a few veterans in free agency after splurging for eight free agents in 2014 and it paid off with his best free agent class to date. Grimes, Ayers and Sweezy were the big names, and Grimes proved to be the best addition of the three as he finished the season as a Pro Bowl alternate and led the Bucs with four interceptions. Ayers brought attitude and 6.5 sacks to Smith’s defense, while Anger and Robinson were stellar on special teams with Anger earning a five-year contract extension in December. The jury is out on Sweezy, a high-priced guard who missed the 2016 offseason and season after suffering a back injury shortly after he was signed.
Round 1: Texas A&M WR Mike Evans
Licht’s first-ever draft pick as G.M. was a home run as Evans has three 1,000-yard seasons and became a Pro Bowler after a record-setting 2016 season.
Round 2: Washington TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins
The oft-injured Seferian-Jenkins has the tools to be a Pro Bowler when healthy, but Licht gambled and missed on ASJ’s character and he was released after a DUI early in 2016.
Round 3: West Virginia RB Charles Sims
When healthy, Sims can be a force as a complementary weapon on offense in a pass-catching role, but injuries have robbed him of 15 games in three seasons.
Round 5: Tennessee State G Kadeem Edwards
Licht’s first offensive line selection was a swing and a miss as Licht took a chance on a small school prospect, but the fifth round is full of hit-or-miss prospects.
Bucs LG Kevin Pamphile – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Round 5: Purdue OL Kevin Pamphile
Pamphile is Licht’s first late-round gem as the versatile offensive linemen became a starter at left guard in 2016 and could be moved to the starting center spot this year.
Round 6: Wyoming WR Robert Herron
Licht took a late-round flier on a speed receiver and it didn’t work out because of Herron’s suspect hands and lack of special teams ability.
2014 Draft Summary: Four years later, Licht and the Bucs came away with a Pro Bowl receiver in Evans, a starting offensive lineman in Pamphile and a productive third-down back in Sims. Hitting on three out of six picks, especially the team’s first-rounder, and finding two starters equals a successful draft any year.
Round 1: Florida State QB Jameis Winston
Licht’s second first-round selection was a home run as he hit on a franchise QB and alpha male leader in Winston, who has passed for 4,000 yards in each of his first two years.
Round 2: Penn State LT Donovan Smith
Smith, who has started every game in the NFL, is a work in progress and has plenty of upside, but has all the tools necessary to be a very good – if not great – left tackle in the NFL.
Round 3: Hobart College G Ali Marpet
Licht traded up in the second round to take a chance on a small school guard and it winded up being a huge hit as like Smith, Marpet was an instant starter and has Pro Bowl potential.
Round 4: LSU LB Kwon Alexander
Alexander is Licht’s second Day 3 gem and a real steal, especially since he has become a Day 1 starter and led the NFL in solo tackles this year as a Pro Bowl alternate.
Round 5: Nebraska WR Kenny Bell
Bell was supposed to be the Bucs’ speed receiver, but concentration lapses and poor hands cost him a chance as a receiver and a kick returner and he was cut after two training camps.
Round 6: Utah WR Kaelin Clay
Licht attempted to get a return specialist late the draft, but Clay wasn’t able to distinguish himself in the preseason and didn’t make the 53-man roster.
Round 7: Hawaii FB Joey Iosefa
It was an uninspiring pick, but Licht can’t really be faulted for drafting Iosefa because seventh round picks are long shots and rarely work out.
2015 Draft Summary: Licht came away with a franchise quarterback in Winston, a stud middle linebacker in Alexander, and two promising offensive linemen. That’s four quality starters – all have Pro Bowl potential – out of seven selections, which makes for a tremendous draft in Licht’s second year as a general manager.
Round 1: Florida CB Vernon Hargreaves III
Hargreaves was a 16-game starter as a rookie, and although he was targeted more than any other cornerback last year, he has plenty of upside and promise.
Round 2: Eastern Kentucky DE Noah Spence
Licht took a chance on Spence, a player with first-round talent but had a drug issue in college, and he has starter potential after recording 5.5 sacks and three forced fumbles as a rookie.
Round 2: Florida State K Roberto Aguayo
Aguayo is Licht’s biggest gamble to date as he traded up to take a chance on one of the most decorated kickers to enter the draft, who has a 50-50 chance of making the team after a sub-par rookie season.
Bucs S Ryan Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Round 4: North Carolina Central DB Ryan Smith
Smith, who could be another Day 3 gem, was a star on special teams as a rookie and has generated a lot of hype behind the scenes as an emerging cornerback with possible starter potential.
Round 5: UCLA OL Caleb Benenoch
The team has high hopes for Benenoch, who could be a future starter at right tackle or guard as another Day 3 find, as a young, developmental offensive lineman.
Round 6: Oklahoma LB Devante Bond
Licht spent a late-round pick on Bond, a big, fast linebacker that had a redshirt season last year on IR who will compete for the starting Sam linebacker in 2017.
Round 6: Northwestern FB Dan Vitale
Licht had high hopes for the versatile Vitale, but he was asked to block in the NFL after not doing that in college and he didn’t make the Bucs’ 53-man roster as a result.
2016 Draft Summary: It’s tough to evaluate a draft after just one season, but Hargreaves and Aguayo were starters last year, and Spence was a big-time contributor with starting potential. The jury is still out on Aguayo, and if Smith and/or Bond develop into starters this could really be very solid draft for Tampa Bay.
“We’ve done a much better job in bringing in the right ‘type’ of guy,” Licht said. “We have a much better vetting process, using our sources and resources better to find out more about guys. And that’s something that, in my first year, I should’ve done a better job with. I’ll be the first to admit that.
“Last year it worked out where we signed Robert Ayers, also drafted Spence; signed Grimes also drafted Hargreaves. In a perfect world, I’d love to do that. It doesn’t always workout that way. Bottom line is we want to get some guys, regardless of their age, that can help us in positions we need help at.”
In just three years the Bucs have been completely retooled and remade under Licht’s supervision. In fact, entering 2016 Tampa Bay may have just four players that were starters in 2013 – Gholston, defensive tackle Gerald McCoy, weakside linebacker Lavonte David and right tackle Demar Dotson. Licht acquired every other Bucs starter, and he re-signed McCoy, David and Dotson to long-term contract extensions, and is working on a new deal for Gholston this month.
Ex-Bucs DT Warren Sapp & GM Jason Licht – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
That’s 21 new starters, including a kicker, a punter and a long snapper on special teams, brought in over the last three years. In Licht’s three years the Bucs have seen five different players become Pro Bowlers in McCoy (2014-16), David (2015), Winston (2015) guard Logan Mankins (2015), who was acquired in a trade in 2014, and Evans (2016). That’s just as many as his predecessor Mark Dominik had in five years from 2009-13 and Bruce Allen had in five years from 2004-08.
With one more good (or potentially great) draft and another good haul in free agency, the Bucs will have the roster needed to make the playoffs and make a run at the Super Bowl. In just four offseasons, Licht has the chance to cement his legacy as the second-best general manager in Tampa Bay history behind Rich McKay, who helped build the 2002 champion Buccaneers and drafted two Hall of Famers in defensive tackle Warren Sapp and linebacker Derrick Brooks, and two other potential ones in safety John Lynch and cornerback Ronde Barber.
If Licht can help the Bucs win a championship on his watch and if some of the stars he’s drafted end up in Canton, Ohio, he could very well go down as the best general manager in franchise history in time. But Licht has already done one thing that McKay couldn’t do, which was draft a franchise quarterback in Winston.
“It’s apparent to me that Jason has a well thought out plan for how he’s going to build his team,” Winston’s agent Greg Genske said. “They are well on their way to executing that plan. The future is very bright for the Bucs. He’s doing a great job.”
Quarterbacks cannot only sink head coaches, general managers, too. Just ask Dominik how he feels about Josh Freeman these days. Although many tough decisions about which players to draft and which free agents to sign will be made in the months ahead, Licht’s most critical call was drafting Winston despite the scrutiny that surrounded the Florida State quarterback.
“I learned that Jason is incredibly diligent at his job through that process,” Genske said. “He did his due diligence quite thoroughly. I learned that he’s a critical thinker that was going to take in the information and make his own judgments based on where the information led him. That has served him and the Buccaneers well.”
Bucs GM Jason Licht – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
NFL agent Joe Linta, who represents tight end Cameron Brate and linebacker Cameron Lynch, has known Licht for 15 years and isn’t surprised by the success Licht has had in turning the Bucs around.
“The arrow is up on them as a team with Winston maturing,” Linta said. “I would expect them to be in the playoffs this year by hook or by crook. Jason is very thorough. That’s one thing I can say about him when it comes to scouting players. And the humility is always there with him. He never draws attention to himself and he’s respected for that – that kind of goes to his roots in Nebraska and his upbringing in New England. He’s doing a great job.”
Yes, he is.
It will be interesting to see what the next few years hold for the Buccaneers under Licht’s leadership.
Scott Reynolds is in his 23rd year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds enjoys giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: firstname.lastname@example.org
Scott, your opinion as to should the Bucs look for a stronger, bigger, quicker Center rather than Hawley and is his replacement on the team right now? By the way the Fab 5 was very good.
Thank you, Horse. Always appreciate your feedback. I like Joe Hawley and wouldn’t mind having him back, but there are some intriguing options on the roster, including Ali Marpet, who I think could be an All-Pro center. A lineup like this intrigues me:
LT Donovan Smith
LG Kevin Pamphile
C Ali Marpet
RG JR Sweezy
RT Demar Dotson
Sounds like a winner, Scott.
Though I do still believe that a team can never pass up an opportunity to add at least one quality offensive lineman every season, through either free agency or the draft. A team has to plan on losing at least one or two OL starters for at least part of every season, and having a quality developmental player ready to step in is invaluable in securing a playoff spot. Of course Jason’s draft board is whatever it is, and he will take whoever’s on top of that board whenever he’s on the clock, with some allowances for moving around with trades. But the season we start neglecting the O-line – who make up fully 1/6th of the 53-man roster on average – is the year it starts to decline.
Or Pamphile at center and everything else the same.
Very informative Fab5, I really enjoyed the insight on Mike Greenberg. I have to give Licht some slack on some of the personal decisions made during Lovie’s tenure. Wasn’t it Lovie who had final say over the roster? I also don’t think it was actually Licht’s decision to hire Lovie, but rather the Glazers, am I wrong?
The Glazers hired Lovie Smith and then Smith hired Jason Licht, who had interviewed for the Bears GM job years earlier when Smith was the head coach in Chicago. As I understood it, Licht had control of the draft, free agency and the offseason roster, but Smith had control over the final 53. However, as a first-year GM, he wanted to get the players his head coach – the guy who hired him – wanted. That’s only natural, and credit Licht for lessons learned in 2014 and for showing more restraint in free agency in 2015.
Wouldn’t it be more correct to say that the Glazers hired Licht on the recommendation of Smith?
I’ve heard that assertion many times before, but to my knowledge, not only would that be contrary to how virtually any business hires anyone these days, but it seems incredible that the Glazers would sign a contract delegating the right to directly hire to Smith or any other head coach.
I’ll believe that story when the Bucs publish Smith’s contract.
The Glazers did hire Jason Licht after Lovie Smith interviewed him and hand-picked him. How about that?
Yeah, that sounds correct. There is no doubt that it was Smith’s recommendation that got him the job.
Wow Scott, you out did yourself with this fab 5. It is one of my favorites to date, juicy cover to cover.
Great article on Licht. I know I say it all the time, but I really love this guy, and think the BUCS have the right person at the right time running the ship. I always had a soft spot for Rich because of his family’s legacy with the BUCS, but Licht has “it”.
Great twist to get an agents perspective on negotiations, really enjoyed that.
I hope Doug comes back with the team, but I also hope the BUCS renegotiate his contract. I thought $7.+ million was a little high for him just because of his health reliability. If you compound his availability + his drug issue it warrants a pay cut.
Boy, it hard not to get amped up for Free Agency & the draft. I know the BUCS won’t be big FA spenders, BUT…I am hoping they add the right FA WR to be #2 to Evans for 2016. Trevor’s boy, Josh “Flash” Gordon just filed for reinstatement, hello. IF he is rehabilitated, Evans & Gordon….damn. Brandon Marshall could be a 2 year option until the 2017 draft rookie is ready too. I know unlikely but what an offensive unit.
Thank you Scott for your great work on this article. In Licht we Trust, Go BUCS!
Thank you, MudManVA. I enjoyed writing this one as much as you enjoyed reading it – despite the fact that it’s 9,160 words, which is one of my longest SR’s Fab 5 columns to date.
If Doug Martin does somehow make the team you have to think it would be at a reduced salary.
Oops! Breaking news. Bucs gotta make a decision here. It ain’t over yet.
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Veteran WR Vincent Jackson is not retiring, source said. He dealt with an MCL sprain last season. His contract is up.
I think the Bucs’ decision has been made. I don’t think Vincent Jackson returns. The team is not going to tell him he needs to retire (the rest of the league will do that), but I don’t see the Bucs signing the 34-year old Jackson for anything other than a community relations role.
I agree. I’m not suggesting that they bring him back, but it will be talked about if he really decides not to retire. Just like the Roddy White talk last year because he had once played for Smith/Koetter. Already hearing 32 year old Brandon Marshall to the Bucs. lol. Thank god for PR – keep telling it like it is!
Thank you, macabee. I appreciate it.
Nice fab five, Scott.
Most important point in your five is the professionalism and groundedness of our front office team, led by Jason Licht … it is the gift that keeps on giving. And the good news is that GMs when they perform well tend to stick around a long time. About the only possible promotion for a GM is to be named President of Football Operations … and if the Glazer boys are learning anything, they need to consider giving him that title and a pay raise if he follows up last year’s progress with a playoff team this year. And then Jason can also give a promotion to his cap-meister, who seems equally professional and grounded.
I enjoyed this FAB 5 very much, Scott, thanks. Your Fab5 is a tool for how the Bucs and the NFL work. The hiring of Trevor was a pro move. You guys have to be the top website reporting on a team and the league. Doesn’t the NFL have an award for that? You guys should win it.
Thank you, Iowabucfan! I appreciate those comments very much. I’ve never believed in awards or entered any writing contests. Comments like yours are WAY better than any award in my book. Comments like yours fuel me to write an even better SR’s Fab 5 next week.
First off Scott, I am still puzzled and bewildered why you and many others would want to keep an overpaid bench warmer like Evan Smith while letting Joe Hawley walk.
The Bucs got Hawley at a door buster price and then he went and beat out Smith for his job the first chance he got.
Why not pay Hawley Evan Smith’s starting salary and cut Evan Smith. Smiths salary isn’t guaranteed as far as I know so it would be no hit on the teams cap.
Why do you keep ignoring this fact.
I’m not real excited about keeping Pamphile at the LG position either. From what I saw on film, the left side of the line was porous not because of Smith, but because of Pamphile.
Review the famous Winston to Evans scramble play and you will see Pamphile totally whiff on a stunt which is what caused Winston to start scrambling for his life.
I actually wouldn’t mind the Bucs resigning Jackson but at league minimum. They could do a lot worse and it would actually allow them to go for that speed receiver they definitely need.
As always, I still remain a Doug Martin fan. From all indications that I am seeing, if Dougie performs well in the preseason and remains clean which I have no doubt that he will, I see the Bucs keeping him past the first three weeks unless they get a good trade offer.
The Bucs, under Licht and Koetter, seem a lot less impulsive and less likely to toss away a player with value unless he shows no indication he is apologetic about his behavior and has made steps to correct it. Martin has done both.
I believe if ASJ had gone to management immediately after the incident and told them he knew he had a drinking problem and was checking into rehab facility right then for 28 days and stopped his drinking, he would still be with the team today.
I also believe it would set a bad tone in the locker room for the Bucs to keep him for three weeks and then just cut him which would hinder his ability to sign with another team of his choosing.
Like any employee, when a player sees that, the first thing they think is, “if that’s how they are going to treat him, they aren’t going to treat me any better.”
Even if they are professionals, doing something like that has a tendency to be bad for team morale and unity.
Every once in a while I agree with something you say Dr.D. In this case, I concur that it was more often Panphile than the much maligned Donovan Smith, who allowed pressure from the left side. But I also think Hawley was the weakest link the way he was often stuffed on running plays and rolled in pass protection. I don’t think Evan Smith is much better, but he can play both guard positions. Both were hurt last season which of course could have been a factor. It wouldn’t surprise me if neither made the final 53.
Loved the piece on Mike Greenberg. I often tell the youngsters in our company, “It’s all about the relationship. It’s important to be fair, up front and honest. You need to listen to the other party and maybe allow them to vent. One way negotiations don’t often succeed. You gain credibility by every once in a while making concessions to favor the other. Attacking the other person only puts them in a defensive mindset. Instead of trying to bull over someone, the right approach might get you to the target by convincing them to willingly step aside. Of course having a good sense of humor helps too.
Negotiations work best and most efficiently when it is not a do or die death match, with a clear winner and a clear loser.
Greenberg’s statement that every pair of negotiating teams must always feel that they each lost a little is true … although I prefer to think of it as both negotiating teams should feel they came away winning more than they gave up.
That was actually Brian Levy’s quote, but I see your perspective and agree.
Good points, scubog. If I could describe Mike Greenberg in five words they would be: intelligent, talented, nice, integrity and fair.
Scubog; I agree.
drdneast – I hear you on Evan Smith. I agree he’s overpaid and I’m not a huge Smith fan. Part of my job is to give you my opinion and also report on the team’s opinion of players. The Bucs like Smith … a lot. They hold him in higher regard than you and I do.
As for Kevin Pamphile, I like him better than you do. The Bucs do, too. Remember that he was a first-year starter last year and he’s young. People can’t expect these guys to be Pro Bowlers from Day 1. Remember how Mike Evans was crucified for all the drops and the 3 TDs in 2015? Then he has a record-breaking season in 2016, cleans up his drops and makes the Pro Bowl. What a difference a year can make. Have patience with Pamphile and the young O-linemen.
Interesting point about ASJ that you make. Thanks for sharing.
Did you have to remind us of the Revis trade? One of the most embarrassing moments in the history of being a Bucs fan. Which is saying a lot. We looked like idiots to the rest of the NFL.
Lol. Sorry, but didn’t you find it interesting to know that the Bucs would have drafted Tyler Eifert in the first round in 2013? I did.
I look at it this way. In Schiano’s genius he was setting the Bucs up to tank the next season so that we would get the 1st pick in the draft and select Jameis Winston. So if it wasn’t for Schiano we would not have a franchise QB.
It was Lovie Smith who tanked the 2014 season. Especially evident the final Saints game.
I know that but without Schiano’s help Lovie might have won an extra couple games
Scott, thanks for the reply and love the intetaction you are doing with the readers. Hope u continue the practice.
However u have my opinion about Donovan Smith wrong. I think he is actually doing fine. I rarely see him getting beat or pushed back into Winston’s body. Has he been beaten before? Sure. Can’t think of any perfect tackles that haven’t but I think he is coming along fine. He is certainly no Luke Joeckel.
Great Fab 5. Really enjoyed to peek behind the curtain a bit on the front office. The sources you were able to cite in this article and the quality of info really speak well for PR’s position as a news source.
I remember being a bit bummed when TB lost Jon Robinson when he became the Titans GM. I remember being concerned on how that impacted the overall effectiveness of the Bucs front office. Greenberg sounds like a real gem and. lets face it, the scouting has been decent post Robinson. Last years free agency was a success and, with the jury still out on Aguayo, the draft looks decent as well.
Greenberg will probably be the one to worry about if he gets a shot somewhere else as GM. I’m guessing if he can successfully negotiate the next contracts for Evans, Alexander, Winston, Smith, and Marpet (and keep TB out of a cap mess) then he will be a GM sooner rather than later.
Thank you, thewbacca. Greatly appreciate your comments.
Mike Greenberg has proven to be a tremendous asset to the Buccaneers. He’s young, too – 31. He is extremely loyal to Jason Licht and doesn’t want to be a GM … right now. We’ll see what the future holds, but I would count on him being around in Tampa Bay for a while, which is a good thing.
Lovie was essentially the GM in year one, so doesn’t Licht get a pass?`
The bigger problem with the coaching carousel has been developing young players vs. shipping them out the door after someone else began to develop them.
Great Fab 5 Scott. I love the that you gave the agents point of view from actual interviews. This is a rarity, and a very nice touch. As readers, we usually never read about negotiations from their perspective. Actually, it seems most articles paint them as the ‘villains’ in the deals by various authors when their team doesn’t reach an agreement with their desired player. Thanks for sharing this.
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