The report by ESPN’s Adam Schefter suggesting that Bucs outside linebacker Jason Pierre-Paul suffered a fracture in his neck from a single car accident last week in South Florida has set off panic within the Tampa Bay fan base.

And justifiably so if Pierre-Paul needs neck surgery and does indeed miss the season to recover, as the reports suggests could happen.

The Bucs declined to comment in detail on the report, with general manager Jason Licht saying this in a press released on Tuesday afternoon: “As we stated last week following the news of Jason’s auto accident, our immediate concern was for both Jason and his passenger. While Jason was treated and released in south Florida the same day of the accident, we wanted to ensure that our medical team had an opportunity to perform a thorough evaluation here in Tampa, and that process is currently ongoing.”

Even if Pierre-Paul’s neck injury doesn’t require surgery, training camp is just over two months away and the start of the 2019 season begins in four months. It’s said that playing in an NFL game is the equivalent of being in a car wreck with all of the physical punishment dished out and endured on Sundays, and the helmet-to-helmet collisions that occur.

So if playing in an NFL season is the equivalent of being in 16 car crashes. It’s hard to imagine that Pierre-Paul wouldn’t have some complications with his neck injury at some point during the season – even if he didn’t need surgery and was cleared to play by the start of the year after missing training camp. And if he were cleared to play, how effective would the Bucs’ leading sacker from a year ago actually be?

Bucs DE Jason Pierre-Paul - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs DE Jason Pierre-Paul – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Would he be able to post 12.5 sacks again or come close to double-digits while recovering from his neck injury – let alone neck surgery? That’s hard to imagine right now if Schefter’s report is valid.

The first knee-jerk reaction some Bucs fans might have about JPP’s injury would be to suggest that Tampa Bay should have drafted Kentucky outside linebacker Josh Allen instead of LSU inside linebacker Devin White with the fifth overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft. Those that preferred Allen over White to begin with will be having some “See? I told you so!” moments right now.

The Bucs still made the right call with White, and his ability to blitz up the middle should help create some of the pass rush production that would be missing in a possible season without JPP.

The next reaction by some would be to plead with the team to keep defensive tackle Gerald McCoy for a 10th season, given that he led the Bucs with 21 QB hits and chipped in six sacks, which matched his total from the previous year.

That would be a wise move indeed, as a team can’t have enough veteran pass rushers.

Some have grown frustrated over the team’s supposed indecision about whether or not to keep McCoy, as Tampa Bay has reportedly tried to trade him this offseason with his age (31) and salary cap number ($13 million) being the barriers that have proven impossible to overcome and strike a deal. Yes, keeping a six-time Pro Bowler and last year’s Tampa Bay Man of the Year in limbo was not ideal, but there is a reason that the Bucs have held on to him for this long.

Exhibit A: Jason Pierre-Paul’s neck injury.

Thank goodness the Bucs didn’t cut McCoy earlier and still have the option of keeping him on their 2019 roster at their disposal.

Some have criticized the team for not treating McCoy fairly by not cutting him earlier and giving him the opportunity to latch on with another team or even maximize his value in the first wave of free agency.

Licht’s job is not to look out for McCoy’s best interests – or the interests of any one player. Football is a team sport.

His job as general manager is to look out for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ best interests.

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Bucs DT Gerald McCoy and DE Jason Pierre-Paul – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

If that means mending fences now and rebuilding a bridge for McCoy to return in light of Pierre-Paul’s injury, then so be it. McCoy,who has been working out independently with trainer Todd Durkin as he has in years past, appears to be fired up about the supposed disrespect he’s felt from the Bucs this offseason and posted a video speaking out about it – without mentioning the Bucs by name – on his Instagram account on Sunday.

A motivated and fired up McCoy with an obvious chip on his shoulder might be the best thing for the Buccaneers this year in lieu of Pierre-Paul’s bad neck.

At no point in time has either Licht or head coach Bruce Arians actually said that McCoy wasn’t wanted in Tampa Bay this year. Some of their indecisive comments, including Arians questioning whether or not McCoy still had the fire to play entering his 10th season, certainly paint the picture that the Bucs were prepared to move on from McCoy this year and were considering it. And McCoy has a right to be upset at them about that.

But Arians even said at the pre-draft mini-camp that they would welcome McCoy to the team’s offseason program with open arms. The door has never been shut on McCoy returning to Tampa Bay in 2019, and in the end, the Bucs might be fortunate to have it all play out this way given Pierre-Paul’s recent neck injury.

Where the Bucs will miss Pierre-Paul is not just rushing off the edge in a 3-4 or a 4-3 front, but also rushing inside at defensive tackle in a four-man line in nickel pass rush situations, which Tampa Bay will be in about 65 percent of the time. Putting McCoy next to Vita Vea flanked by Shaquil Barrett and Carl Nassib would be an ideal solution to the problem that JPP’s absence would create.

The Bucs would certainly miss Pierre-Paul’s presence this year if he cannot play, but Licht’s addition of Barrett in free agency, and fourth-round pick Anthony Nelson, who can play defensive end and outside linebacker, should help soften the blow somewhat.

Nelson is an improving pass rusher, who recorded 23 sacks in three years at Iowa, including a career-high 9.5 last year. Barrett had 14 career sacks and seven forced fumbles in four seasons in Denver. Barrett and Nassib, who had a career-high 6.5 sacks last season, will both be playing in contract years, in addition to Noah Spence, a former second-round pick in 2016, who had 5.5 sacks as a rookie, and is looking for a career rebirth as an outside linebacker this season in Todd Bowles’ defense.

Having Pierre-Paul would certainly make Tampa Bay’s edge rush even better, but the cupboard isn’t bare, and it’s worth noting that Licht added Nassib off waivers last September, and will undoubtedly be looking for help at outside linebacker/defensive end all the way through roster cut-downs in September if JPP ends up missing the season.

While the Bucs could use McCoy’s $13 million off the books to help the team sign its draft picks and add other players, it’s not like parting ways with McCoy would be the only way that could occur. Director of football administration Mike Greenberg, the Bucs’ capologist, could clear over $10 million in 2019 cap space by going to Pro Bowl wide receiver Mike Evans and converting half of his $20 million into a signing bonus tomorrow if necessary.

Instead of his cap space, the Bucs could use McCoy’s ability to get to the quarterback even more right now under these circumstances. Although he’s always favored Batman when it comes to superheroes, the Bucs would probably prefer McCoy return to Tampa Bay mean and green and ready for some “Hulk smash!” this year without JPP.

Bucs Jason Pierre-Paul and Gerald McCoy
Bucs Jason Pierre-Paul and Gerald McCoy – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

McCoy has always loved superheroes, and now he could actually play one in red and pewter this year.

McCoy never wanted to leave Tampa Bay in the first place, and has always wanted to help the Bucs turn the corner and finally make the playoffs during his decade here. Perhaps fate will afford McCoy one more opportunity to try to make that happen in 2019, and he’ll be handsomely rewarded with $13 million for doing so.

If Pierre-Paul can’t play this year, it could be McCoy to the rescue for the Buccaneers.

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Scott Reynolds is in his 23rd year of covering the Tampa Bay Buccaneers as the vice president, publisher and senior Bucs beat writer for PewterReport.com. Author of the popular SR's Fab 5 column on Fridays, Reynolds oversees web development and forges marketing partnerships for PewterReport.com in addition to his editorial duties. A graduate of Kansas State University in 1995, Reynolds enjoys giving back to the community as the defensive line coach for his sons' Pop Warner team, the South Pasco Predators. Reynolds can be reached at: [email protected]

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  1. This just shows how thin the Bucs are on the defensive line. Lose JPP and now the media is out saying we have to keep McCoy – the rusher who struggles to stay in his lane when rushing the QB. I am glad they drafted for the secondary as they needed it, but we will see how this all works out. Some are picking the Bucs to improve slightly this year, to 8-8. At this point I will be exceedingly happy if they can pull that off.

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  2. We pretty much have to count on McCoy now, unless we can somehow get Ansah. But this will open the door for Barrett at outside linebacker. But they should look at Connor Barwin, Shane Ray, Pernell McPhee, and Dion Jordan. Unfortunately there are not a lot of other options out there

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  3. People are assuming the Bucs will keep McCoy. I would like McCoy to stay but the salary cap is going to be a challenge.

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  4. Pierre Paul is probably done playing football. do we even have the 13 million to pay McCoy? Look at the schedule. 9-7 would be the best we could probably hope for. 7-9 is probably more like it.

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    • Did you even read the article??? It states that Evan’s contract could be reworked in a moments notice to free up $10 mill.

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  5. Yea we are going to have to figure out another way to clear cap out now

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  6. McCoy to the rescue??? Hahahaha! Comedy!!! McCoy misses games every year! Plus HE SUCKS!

    Bucs should have drafted Allen, Oliver, or Sweat in round 1, not an inside linebacker who is a shitty tackler.

    Keep your arm loose Jameis! You’re gonna he passing 50 times a game if JPP is out.

    Jpp and Vea are the only two players on the defense that teams are worried about.

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  7. IF JPP is put on IR his salary counts so one way or another Bucs need to clear cap space. McCoy isn’t a lock to return even if I would like to see him return.

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  8. Ziggy Ansah should be on speed dial…

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  9. Only way Bucs avoid JPP salary is to keep him on the non injury football list. But that would mean he is shut down for the rest of the season.

    Either way the Bucs would still need to clear cap space even if JPP is out for the year. McCoy’s situation is still going to be murky.

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  10. “The Bucs still made the right call with White, and his ability to blitz up the middle should help create some of the pass rush production that would be missing in a possible season without JPP.”

    I see Scott is a fan of putting up the Mission Accomplished banner back up. LOL, this from the same writer who openly compared Jameis Winston to Tom Brady in a Fab 5 upon being drafted, who was one of the biggest supporters of the Aguayo pick when it happened and literally wrote that Licht ‘Mastered the Draft’ in his 2016 Fab 5 draft review when Licht drafted VHIII, Spence, Aguayo, Smith and Benenoch. Quite the track record you’ve built up Scott.

    Props to Jason Licht for putting the 5-11 Bucs in cap hell and then openly trying to trade McCoy while keeping him away from offseason work while he attempts to get anything of value for him then when JPP goes down and Licht realizes he has no other pass rushers puts his hat in hand and asks McCoy to come back. Pure genius that we’ve come to expect from out ‘Master of the 2016 NFL Draft.’ It’s after Easter but Praise be Licht, he is risen!

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  11. McCoy to the rescue? Lmao

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  12. Anyone criticizing Licht as if he could have predicted a car accident are in the wrong to do so. I get it, you didn’t love his draft, he should have drafted an edge rusher, etc. This is a fluke thing. How about some praise for not cutting McCoy? Looks like now we will need him more than ever.

    Two of our “would be” defensive starters won’t be able to play because of separate car accident injuries. There isn’t much Licht can do about that, it isn’t his fault the team is banned from using Uber (I like Jameis, just a joke people…). We have had some bad luck, but JPP isn’t really a great fit in a 3-4 anyways, so let’s see what the team looks like come week 1.

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  13. This team does seem cursed always some bad shit in off season it seems.

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  14. The Bucs and Licht – with Arians’ help – put us in the spot we are in. With respect to the obvious lack of quality depth on the defensive line, the “salary cap hell” we are in at the moment … and letting Kwon Alexander go necessitating the drafting of his replacement with a precious first round draft pick (really head smackingly stupid!!!) .. failing to deal appropriately with Gerald McCoy’s contract (it should have been renegotiated months ago, to both free up cap space this year and provide McCoy the opportunity to finish out his career at Tampa) .. drafting and signing multiple failed kickers … and so on and so on.

    Some will write this off as mere bad luck – Scott being one of them – but quality general managers tend to create their own luck, good or bad, by properly managing their team resources from a risk assessment standpoint so that a single point failure doesn’t tank an entire season .. especially when that GM has already been tanking all but one of his five seasons with the team already, including repeat 5-11 seasons … leaving no store of either good will or of high expectations of successful recovery to draw upon.

    Some fans will shrug and say “It’s a Bucs life!”. Well, it wasn’t always a Bucs life … I’d say its mostly a Baby Glazers life, with their unending string of very bad franchise hires ever since Old Man Glazer suffered his stroke and turned the franchise over to his offspring who all clearly fell extremely far from the apple tree.

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  15. 4 days ago I said they can’t get rid of McCoy till they find out the injury on Jpp .
    And I got 17 negative comments from really smart trolls on this site you remember jpp single car accident I imagined that comment by me

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  16. What has Jason Licht done in 5 years that he deserves the benefit of the doubt Scott? White was a luxury pick plan and simple, we needed trench play as evident by this turn of events. 1 injury, that could’ve easily happened week 1, and now the jettisoned GMC is our best option along the DL? This offseason has been a comedy of errors masked with a good coaching hire. Arians better walk on water and Bowles scheme better show something it didn’t with the Jets or the season will go downhill quickly. Jameis needed to balance to improve as a QB, we’ve done nothing to enhance the run game. We need to replace our aging DL with younger players to help the backend, we do the bare minimum. Now here we sit with backup level talent at 2 of the 3 starting DL positions and you beat your chest about a damn linebacker lol. The delusion has spread to the media i see.

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  17. Bottom 6 NFL teams if JPP is out:

    Dolphins
    Giants
    Cardinals
    Lions
    Bills
    Bucs

    It isn’t so bleak Bucs fans. Tampa Tua has a nice ring to it.

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  18. Does anybody think that blowing your hand off on the 4th of July might be a red flag that you have self-destructive issues did anybody ever stop to think why the Giants got rid of a guy that was supposedly so good this is 100% Jason

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  19. “Licht’s job is not to look out for McCoy’s best interests – or the interests of any one player. Football is a team sport.

    His job as general manager is to look out for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers’ best interests.”

    No Scott, his job is to WIN, but since he’s never actually done that, has a 27-53 record which is worse that what got Dominik fired there is an open question as to what exactly he’s doing here.

    Also, it’s worth noting that this was expected to be a very, very good D-Line draft this year. So Licht naturally waits until Day 3 to draft a D-Lineman and makes FOUR picks on defenders who’s primary job is not to rush the passer when his two best pass rushers from last year are 30+ years old before he gets around to pass rush. You really have to wonder how such a GREAT GM has such a bad record…oh wait.

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  20. If McCoy is not as fast and as quick as JPP, I wouldn’t go this way.

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  21. What are the Cap implications of JPP’s injury if he is out the entire season?

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  22. @youngry So are you saying that Licht couldn’t predict that his best two pass rushers were 30+ years old with 12+ million dollar contracts and that the 2019 NFL draft was considered the best draft in a decade for D-Line prospects? Are you also telling me that JPP has never, not even once, done anything reckless away from football that cost him games, performance, or say…a few fingers? Are you telling me that Licht didn’t know any of those things?

    Saying that Licht couldn’t predict a very specific event is one thing, except it discounts the obvious things he could predict. If JPP went down in week 1 with a season ending injury the team is in the same spot it is today. Except that his cap space is then taken and no replacement can be had. If anything Licht got LUCKY that it happened in the offseason and yet he’s still a fool for being caught with his pants down (per usual) unprepared for anything that deviates from a perfect landing.

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  23. @devasher I am only saying he couldn’t have predicted a car accident. Sheesh. And your entire last paragraph is precisely my point, I think this team looks as if they were prepared for a JPP injury anyways. They traded for him when they were running a 4-3, now they are trying to switch to a 3-4. He isn’t the best fit and they seem as if they have players better suited for the new scheme. Losing JPP sucks, but that’s football. Sometimes good players get hurt. This injury seems to be self-inflicted, but regardless, next man up. Licht couldn’t have predicted a fluke car accident injury, but still has the depth which makes this injury less of a massive deal given our switch to a 3-4.

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  24. @devasher Well said. I’m not usually critical of Licht because I think he’s been dealt some tough hands, but your comment is exactly right. It’s about risk management and capitalizing on the strength of the draft. At least the Bucs got the best kicker in the draft!

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  25. Scott, put the CoolAide down….

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  26. Easy decision… cut both McCoy and gain his 13 million back to cap. Also, JPP is a tough call… but given his age, type of injury, salary… I would cut him as well and add his salary back to the cap as well. I would then keep my eye on waiver wire as a couple of vets r due to get released due to their salaries and their teams new draftees. Let’s be for real… even WITH these 2 players the Bucs weren’t going anywhere! Go with youth then and build through the draft peppered with a few FAs here and there! We weren’t sure what personnel decision/decisions to make… now this happened. Just cut them both and be done with the drama already! Go Bucs!

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  27. Cursed!! I have been criticized for saying this team is a perennial MASH unit. It took a defense with 4 Hall of Fame caliber players on it to win a Superbowl (once). I feel bad for JPP, but this is just the start of what happens every year.
    Predictions. I predict we will end the season with 4 offensive starters and 6 defensive starters on IR. After the baby Glazers give Licht a last chance vote of confidence things get worse. He drafts a kicker and a punter during the 2020 draft.
    During the 2020 offseason a young starting OLB drafted in 2016, has a boating accident and misses next season. This prompts the Baby Glazers to ordain that all players making more than the league minimum are to confine themselves to a monastery in central Florida during the off season. The lawsuits go on for years.
    Todd Bowels resigns to take the head coaching job for Detroit Lions. Two weeks later, with no explanation, Bruce Arians resigns. Now with no experienced head coaches to call upon Meathead consults with Tony Dungy and decides to go with a youth movement, and with Dungy’s blessing, hires Don Shula’s grandson Chris Shula as the new HC. Byron Leftwich resigns immediately. The prospect of having another another Shula running the offense causes an immediate uproar by Pewter Report posters, and this in turn causes the fans to revolt and Licht is fired.
    At the urging of Mark Cook,Buc-ass-bob is then named as the new General Manager of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers!

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    • You know what I am going to criticize you for (not that you care)? It’s using Naples lame ass tag line for Brian and Joel Glazer. Come up with your own or just call them The Sh!tty Owners (cause they are) but don’t use a lame trolls weak overused name because that just gives credence to a poor articulator of information credit.

      Otherwise, I think your thoughts have merit!

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  28. Maybe we can move 1 of our defensive backs to take of JPP’s position. Smh..if only licht knew how to draft pass rushers, we would atleast have some depth at the position but instead, licht has now only drafted 2 defensive ends/pass rushers since being the GM of the bucs and those players being Spence and Nelson.

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  29. @buc-ass-bob You said the Bucs couldn’t get rid of McCoy and you were right! No one wants him or his bloated contract!

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  30. McCoy hasn’t come to the rescue in the nine years he’s been here, not going to happen now. Cut both of them, I’m sure we can still win five games without them, since that’s all we’ve won with them. Take that 20 mill, and spend it on players who don’t play with dolls, or blow their fingers off, and can’t drive.

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  31. @devasher Your first comment before the back and forth is spot on. That Licht is still here is too hard to believe.

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  32. Everything I have read or heard with my own two ears from Todd Bowles says he is both open minded and flexible. He is not locked in to a 3-4 base or a 4-3 base. He doesn’t care what you call his scheme. It will be truly a hybrid scheme. He will work around whatever talent level and skills he finds available. He will adapt to what each guy can do rather than what they can’t do. His philosophy dovetails perfectly with that of Bruce Allens.

    It is still too early to panic. It is damned sure too early to call the win-loss results for the upcoming season.

    I am sure there will be more unexpected twists and turns to come before they start to play the games. Stand by y’all.
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    Go Bucs!!!!! Win Now!

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  33. I can just hear the phone conversation between Geraldini and Bucco bruce.

    Ring
    GMC: Hello
    BA: Gerald, this is BA.
    Gerald: Buc Ass……….Bob?
    BA: No Coach Arians
    Click

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    • TOO FUNNY!!

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  34. It would not be “McCoy to the Rescue” in this situation. JPP’s injury changes nothing regarding McCoy IMHO. Let’s please move on from the past and from McCoy and embrace new leadership on the defense wholly.

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  35. Would Pewter Report please find out and report back to its readership what the salary cap implications are on this.
    I don’t want to read it from some Yahoo posting out here who may or my not know.
    I want to hear the official line from a valued source that I can trust like Pewter Report.

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    • You’ve probably read this by now, but wanted to answer your question regarding the salary cap implications of JPP’s injury. The answer is a nuanced one because it up to the Bucs to decide how they want to handle it. JPP is owed 14.3mil for 2019. $7.5 million of his base salary became fully-guaranteed on March 15. If the Bucs place him on IR they may pay his whole salary but is only obligated to pay the guaranteed portion. If they place him on NFI that guarantee doesn’t cover a player placed on the non-football injury list (NFI). They still can pay his full salary, pay only the guarantee or they can pay him nothing. It is up to the Bucs, but on NFI they can get out of paying anything if they choose to.

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  36. I knew there was more to the story with JPPs accident. One car accident. A passenger in car. 5:00am. Now he possibly has broken neck??? Did he hit a tree? Run off the road? Who was passenger in car? Male or Female? Was he going to gym? Just getting in from the night? So many questions? Why all the secrecy? Just give us the facts of the case already! As fans, who might have seen their best player on defense last year, injured and out for the year and possibly career ending, could we get some more info on the crash please! Scott… what r u hearing bro?

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  37. Is it too late redo? JPP has a neck injury? No word still on Beckwith. I am going back to bed.

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  38. So, did McCoy know JPP was facing season-ending surgery when he posted that Instagram video?

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  39. Why does McCoy get more fired up on Instagram than he does on the football field?

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  40. The majority of you Glass Three Quarters Empty Negative Nancies are a real bummer. Possibly losing JPP sucks, but it’s like all y’all do is just sit around and wait for something to jump on and talk trash about your supposed favorite team. Trashing Scott who dedicates his life to this Amazing publication because he is trying to curb all of y’alls anticipated negativity with articles that might provide us with a little hope? You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    No it’s not about just blindly drinking the cool-aide but I’m a Bucs Fan, I may not be happy with every move our GM has made or all the Coaching hires the Glazer Sons have made, but I Love this team and no matter what the situation I want us to win and want to know information that might provide a little hope for that possibility and at least look more on the bright side than the dark and miserable side. And yes I have been a fan since I was born which was actually just after the couple good early years we had with a Doug Williams. So I knows Bucs misery well, but still hope for the best.

    All of you negative miserable individuals just need to start your own publication that is dedicated solely to just trashing your supposed favorite team and all 9 of you can just thumbs up every Hateful, misery filled, Bucs trashing comments over and over till you orgasm and sleep well at night.

    When your team is bad or has a setback you don’t just give up before it even starts and curse them up and down relentlessly and claim to be a fan. Not sure who taught y’all how to be True Fans but that ain’t it. You can understand the faults and shortcomings while still looking for the bright spots, hoping for the best and rooting for your team.

    It just makes me sad because it seems like the majority of the people that post here know a lot about football and a lot about players and so on and it would be a lot more enjoyable to see more supportive and incite full posts . To each their own though I guess.

    I personally am gonna continue to root for my favorite team and hope that they will play up to the high potential I personally feel they have and not throw the season away because we might have lost one guy.

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  41. This whole situation with defense is crazy af. This year our defense is gonna look completely different and I can’t wait! I would love if Gerald was like an 8 or 9 million player. Cause that would make this easier to swallow. But it would be cool if he at least returned to the 9.5 sack guy than the 6.5 sack for 13$ million.

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  42. Well said and it is this time we should galvanize our support and avoid panic. Yes this sucks totally but let’s not throw in the towel or trash the writers cause of anger & frustration.

    We have made it a long long way if anyone of us are Bucs fans so don’t burn down the village now.

    How about some constructive advice or suggestions. Who knows maybe the staff might be listening….you never know.

    Go Bucs and have some faith in our new staff/change of culture.

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  43. JPP is going to be a lost, but if the Buccaneers cut McCoy there would be a different loss. They could have kept both, but many backup players would have been cut. The timing of JPP’s accident is fortunate because they can keep McCoy. Ziggy Ansah could be decent cheap option. They can trade or get a free agent DE. Injuries in football are so common that a GM must have two or three plans ready.

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  44. @spitfire Negative Nancy and Positive Patty, whatever. As a browbeaten fan, I’m calling it like I see it. You may think there’s a shiny rainbow right around the corner when your favorite team proudly takes the field in 4 months without its best pro, but I don’t see it. And I think the schedule is actually a good one for the Bucs!

    The reason so many are critical of the team, and ownership is because most are fed up with stupid free agency moves, stupid drafts, stupid coaching hires, bad play calling, and most of all LOSING.

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  45. I am with you, Spitfire.
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    There IS a core of real fans across Tampa Bay and actually across the country who support the Buccaneers. These people do understand what it means to be a fan.

    However, Tampa Bay will never be a “sports town” like some metros. This was demonstrated for me just a few years after 2002 when the waiting line for season tickets evaporated.

    There will always be the nattering negativists and the bandwagon fans who only follow a team when they are winning all of the time. That’s life. That’s the nature of the beast.

    BA has a good chance of turning the team around in short order. But this “fan” base will take 2 or 3 years of winning to begin to pretend to be sports fans again. Maybe for some it will take winning another Super Bowl win. I don’t know.
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    Culture Change, Team=>Fans
    Go Bucs!!!!! Win Now!

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    • Of the total years this Team has been in existence, over 23 of those years have been losing seasons. That is a lot of losing and it hurts. When you look forward to Sundays to watch your favorite football Team and we already know we will not be able to compete, it really sucks.

      The negativity stems from this history. At least for the early years and leading in to the years before and during the Superbowl year, we could hang our hat on having a stout defense. It seems the only thing we have our hat to hang on now is poor play, poor talent, poor coaching, a poor GM and worst off, a poor ownership group.

      No one wants to be negative. I want MY Team to be respected and perform well. It’s hard to envision something that hasn’t been seen very much….

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  46. So JPP blows off camp does not come 200 miles to help his team mates instead is out at night with unknown passenger and crashes his car all by it self.
    Understand he was to get 14 million for just this season but does not come to help himself and his team.
    And people are surprised and call it bad luck! some people make there luck and JPP made his.
    It is called choices instead of being in Tampa and Buc one with teammates he is out on road at 5AM.
    Be sure had he been going to gym that would have been known

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  47. Again, NO EXCUSES. Scour the waiver wires when cutdowns start, See who is available now. There might be another DE out there like we stole from the Browns. Earn your money Jason Licht. With all the crap Arians has talked, the Bucs need to produce. Plug up the holes..Lets Go Bucs. We Buc fans are tired of losing. We lose one player and all is lost? BS. Here is an opportunity for somebody. Get her done.

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  48. I remember it was 1975 when I was just a young boy when Tampa got the Buccaneers! It was an exciting time as the USA was preparing for the big bicentennial celebration in 1976! If I remember correctly the original owner who was awarded the Tampa Bay NFL franchise was hit with some severe financial issues and could not fulfill the purchase agreement! This Attorney Hugh Culverhouse stepped in as the new owner of the expansion Buccaneers who would make their debut in 1976! Awesome times! The point being… some of us have been around since teams inception and we r big Tampa Bay Buccaneers fans! Spent thousands… yes thousands!…of dollars on Season tickets over the year. We r just fans! It’s that simple! We want the Bucs to succeed… but will voice an opinion on all things Bucs as many posters here do often. All the disastrous seasons… starting with that first one!…and the winning ones as well! In the end the season will conclude and a new season is always on the horizon with great hope and anticipation! Let’s keep things in perspective… it’s a game!…one that we love but still… just a game. Wether or not McCoy or even JPP with the neck injury are cut really isn’t a big deal… we were 5-11 with them both in the lineup… so let’s be real! If they r cut… which I hope they r…it improves our salary cap issues and frees up some cash to pursue a medium priced FA who could come in and help us now! Hell… u may even win 6 games… I’m just saying. Go Bucs!

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  49. @bucballer: I love hearing from folks like yourself who became a fan the day it was announced that Tampa was being awarded a franchise and have hung in there through the years. I have the commemorative poster hanging in my den (Bucs Room) along with my McDonalds, “The Bucs are Coming” bumper sticker. It hasn’t always been easy. We had our own team, yet people remained Dolphin fans, fans of the team from whence they came or as I suspect, fans of the latest winner.

    Now we have fans(?) who are constantly bashing the team of which they claim they support. Virtually nothing the team does pleases them. I’m convinced they are doing so to protect their own fragile psyche. They don’t want their hopes dashed so they abandon it completely. Their motto must be, “Hope is for dopes.” They then thump their chests with glee and want to scoff at those who remain positive when something like JPP’s non-football injury occurs.

    Yes, JPP had a dozen sacks. What that got us was a spot in the bottom five of the league in nearly every defensive ranking. This Defense will be much different with or without JPP or GMC. I know this much…….it won’t be worse.

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  50. As a fan of the TEAM, I’m for cutting the two to rectify our cap issue. Additionally, that would rid us of two players whose ceilings have fallen but paychecks have not. Yes, the loss of their production and veteran leadership would be missed, but if we are truly doing a “youth movement,” then let’s move on. It’s a business…the unfortunate circumstances, the hefty salaries, the aging, the routine missed games due to “injury”…the list goes on…it all should add up to their releases. I REALLY hate losing as much as anyone else, and I realize losing them would PROBABLY lead to a less productive pass rush, but we’re going to have to release them eventually, so may as well be now. Trim the “excess,” the weather-beaten, and damaged goods…add some new shiny toys and let’s play some fooseball!

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  51. @drdneast what I reported to you about the Bucs being on the hook for the $7 million came straight from Adam Schefter. I’m not just some yahoo on here. I don’t post without fact checking although I don’t know if being a no football related injury changes that or not.

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  52. I share the. sentiment Bucballer! These are the times that test true fans. I am proud to be counted among the guys like you and scubog and many others here at PR who remain faithful when things appear to be not going great, and I emphasize the words “appear to be”. We live in Florida. We see the weather change frequently, but the sun never fails to come out. Like you I’ve been a Buc fan from day 1 and intend to remain so whatever the outcome! Go Bucs!

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  53. Except for some draft picks this off season couldn’t be going any better for this fan. I always thought Kwon was over rated, but knew Licht would make him the highest paid MLB in the league. Talk about over drafting a MLB at five, I think it would’ve been worse over paying for one. So we got maybe a pro bowl MLB on a 1st round five year deal. I think that worked out great. I was never in favor of the trade for JPP, and was hoping the Bucs would cut him, and draft his replacement this year. I knew that Licht would never do that, and we’d be saddled with his 14.5 mill cap hit, now this happens. A smart G.M. would cut him, take that 6 mill in cap space. Licht’s not smart, but I don’t think he has no choice but to cut him. That takes us to McCoy. There’s bad blood now, and we add his 13 mill to JPP’s 6, we have 18 mill in cap space to move on with, just cut them both. So for me what happened to Kwon, JPP, McCoy going, couldn’t have gone better. Now as far as not feeling sorry for what’s happening to these players I look at it like this. Kwon’s happy he got paid, and JPP has had a great career making 10’s of million dollars a long the way, retirement isn’t all bad. McCoy will land somewhere, hopefully as a FA where he can pick his new team. So for me, this is all going fine, and I think we’ll all be better for it.

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  54. If it’s mccoy to rescue we are screwed. He misses games every year, doesn’t take many double teams anymore, and will get you 5 or 6 sacks. Wow that’s goong to make difference? This defense will be better without him.

    I Agree cut him and if JPP injury is that serious where can’t play all year cut him too and move on. I will reserve judgment on the crash until all details are out unlike negative troll Bob who tells us all what happened before all details come out. Wouldn’t except anything else from a douche bag that tries to spin everything so he’s right and seldom is.

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  55. There are quite a few chicken littles on this site. ALL waiting until their “I told you so” moment. Please. The schtick gets old.
    It used to be you all came out after our first loss dreaming about the next draft. Hell now we cant even get to June. Sheesh.

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  56. UP WITH POSITIVITY!!!

    +Bucs odds to win the division and superbowl are really good regardless of who takes the field! Ladies and gentlemen, place your bets!
    +Bucs have a great chance to go out there on Sunday’s and win every game with the talent on the roster!
    +Jason Licht has built an AMAZING roster!
    +Bruce Arians will be the best coach in Tampa history!
    +McCoy will get to reward all his true fans with “I told yo so” when he plays this year and racks up career numbers and wins defensive player of the year!
    +JPP and his 12.5 sacks and 99% snap count can easily be replaced by Noah Spence!
    +The offensive line and coaches will likely make Peyton Barber the league MVP after he rushes for 1600 yards!
    +Jameis Winston is going to have his best year as a pro under the tutelege of Byron Leftwich and Bruce Arians!
    +Air Arians featuring Famous Jameis! Bombs away to deep speed Comeback Player of the Year Breshad Perriman!

    Hopefully that’s enough sunshine for you snowflakes with blinders on.

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  57. This is a nightmare. They are saying that JPP could miss the entire year with a Neck fracture???

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  58. how much difference will either of them make in wins we had 5 wins with both of them last year. Maybe 2 with better coaching, A 20 million dollar maybe.We still suck with or without them.coaching can fix our o line woes that is why we went the entire draft & free agency & picked up 2 or 3 o line man in undrafted free agency. so save 20 mil. & coaching will improve our big men play on both sides of the ball. Cut Gmc diva act don’t question him social media rant about his work ethic. They going to do to him like the cowboys did Dez a couple years ago. wait until it is an owners market and then cut him when he will not get anything close to present deal. Peace out Gmc.

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  59. U know guys… just like to make a point… when I was playing baseball at Hillsborough High School we had our top 3 pitchers: Vance Lovelace, Dwight Gooden and Floyd Youmans all get drafted in the early rounds of MLB draft. Always a lot of scouts and press around our games… as our team was quite talented! Behind the scenes throughout our 3 years at Hillsborough SOME of our players got in some not so flattering situations and compounded their troubles by opening their mouths! I remember a scout for the N.Y. Yankees once said to me about an incident involving a very high draft pick on our team… if u kids would learn to just play ball and keep ur mouths shut u would be so much better off. My point is this… when McCoy made/released that video… I don’t think it helped him, in fact, I think it wasn’t a good look. Just do ur job! Ur a football player with an average playing career of 2-4 years. When players open their mouths sometimes they r taking food off their tables. Never say anything that could potentially limit ur earnings potential! When ur career is over… speak on any subject u desire but while ur playing maximize ur earning potential by not saying something stupid that could jeopardize your check. This younger generation does not seem to be concerned with tradition and history. It’s seems to be all about respect or lack of. Respect isn’t given it’s earned! Make ur statement on the field. McCoy had nothing to gain by releasing that video and involving his kids. His children have nothing to do with his contract/playing status with Bucs. Just makes him look petty trying to get credit for something we all do each and everyday… spend time with our kids! Maybe it’s just me… I long for the days when Barry Sanders would run for 65-70 yard TD with one shoe… and then just hand the ball to the referee. He didn’t need to say anything more. His actions spoke for themselves. I’m just saying…

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  60. Josh Allen is on line one, and he’s laughing his ass off.

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  61. I listening to a few national columnists it seems we might not be able to keep McCoy even if we wanted to because of the salary cap. They say we are going to have problems even signing our draft picks. I did not realize we were in such bad shape. This all falls on the GM’s shoulders. If Jameis has a tremendous year we will not be able to sign him to an extension. The outlook is not good.

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  62. Jameis’s contract is actually a big part of the problem. Overpaid for his pay but has a chance at a big pay day with a BIG year. If he gets that extension the bonus and proration of funds etc can actually make his contract more favorable.

    There’s other dead wood on the team to cut too, don’t trip

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