The PR Bucs Monday Mailbag is where PewterReport.com’s Mark Cook answers your questions from our Twitter account. You can submit your question each week via Twitter using the hashtag #PRMailbag.

Below are the questions we chose for this week’s edition of the PR Bucs Monday Mailbag.

Question: Do you think Jason Licht gets fired? His two top drafts picks this year, DT Vita Vea and RB Ronald Jones, have been busts.

Answer: I think it still depends on how things play out over the last three games. If this team folds like they did under Lovie Smith, Greg Schiano and Raheem Morris, then yes, I believe the Glazers make a change. If this team finds a way to somehow win two of the next three then Koetter and Licht probably get one more season. I am not saying that would be the right thing or wrong thing. I just believe that is what happens.

As far as busts, you can certainly make an argument they haven’t performed as expected, but I wouldn’t classify them as busts just yet. Vita Vea has shown flashes of what he can be and looks to me like the better of the two picks so far. Could safety Derwin James have had more of an impactful during the first 13 games of the season than Vea? I think he clearly would have. But with just 10 under his belt, it’s hard to say that Vea is a bust.

I am a little more concerned with Ronald Jones however. Honestly, running back is one of the easiest to transition from the college ranks to the NFL. There is a learning curve, but Jones has shown very few of the traits he flashed when watching his tape at USC. I hope I am wrong, and hope the light clicks on soon. But that isn’t a bet I am ready to make at this point. The fact is, 13 games into the season, it looks like a really bad selection.

Question: How can a coach in his third year allow his players to be so undisciplined? Seems like the Bucs continuously shoot themselves in the foot with costly penalties and missed assignments.

The Glazers and head coach Dirk Koetter - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
The Glazers and head coach Dirk Koetter – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Answer: That is something that you have to wonder if the Glazers are trying to figure out as well. And could be the biggest reason Dirk Koetter ends up unemployed on December 31, which is the day after the season ends.

Koetter is a no-nonsense guy and expects everyone to do their job and do it the right way. Maybe he puts too much faith in the players to hold themselves accountable – as well as too much faith in the coaching staff. The problem is, that hasn’t happened and may lead to his downfall.

But if he does somehow manages to get another year, I would guess the accountability will have to ramp up big time. It has to. This team does not know what it takes to win, and the Glazers will have to determine if they feel Koetter is the guy to get it fixed.

Question: Who will be the next head coach ? Please don’t write any more crap saying Dirk Koetter MIGHT be back. He won’t be. Nor should he.

Answer: Well he COULD be back. Seriously. As I mentioned above, and as we mentioned on our latest podcast, a 7-9 record might be enough to get one more year for Dirk Koetter and Jason Licht.

As far as who would replace him, it is way too early to tell. I think there will be a number of coaching changes after the season around the league and that will increase the pool of candidates. Years ago, owners liked to look at the college coaches to bring into the NFL (see John McKay, Ray Perkins, Greg Schiano), but now the top coaches in the college ranks make more than many NFL coaches do. The only thing to lure them away would be their own egos.

The recent trend is top assistant NFL guys, and you see the success they are having in some cases (Los Angeles Rams’ Sean McVay and Chicago’s Matt Nagy). If the Glazers do decide to part ways with Koetter I think they interview some of the assistants who have proven to be successful coordinators in the league. But maybe they see an Andy Reid-type coach who wore out their welcome with the team they have been with. If John Harbaugh were to get fired in Baltimore he would be one to watch.

Question: What are the Bucs’ main draft needs at this point, assuming Jameis Winston is here to stay? Donavan Smith extension, but how much? Time to dump Demar Dotson? How’s doing after being ridiculed on Twitter all day about Cairo Santos? Thanks, guys!

Answer: There are a lot of needs on this team. I think offensive tackle is one of them. Maybe two of them. I still think there is a good chance Donovan Smith returns, especially if the current staff and front office stays. If not, then that will be up to the new regime.

Smith will likely make $12 million or more per year. He’s not worth it, but this is a bad draft for left tackles. If the Bucs let Smith go in free agency, he would be the top guy and would fetch a contract around $12 million per year because of it. It’s almost like the team has to re-sign him because of the lack of available options elsewhere, and that’s a terrible spot to be in.

Bucs LT Donovan Smith - Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR
Bucs LT Donovan Smith – Photo by: Cliff Welch/PR

Middle linebacker is another area the team could look at. Maybe Kwon Alexander is back, but would he be healthy enough to start the season after tearing his ACL midway through this season? Kendell Beckwith could take over, but he himself missed all this year and there is still a question on how his surgically repaired ankle will hold up.

Then, of course, safety and cornerback are two needs. Brent Grimes is playing his last three games, and there are still a number of unproven guys on this roster in the secondary. While they may have flashed some promise, no one really knows how much they will develop moving forward.

I don’t think it is necessarily time to dump Demar Dotson, but some competition next year at right tackle wouldn’t hurt.

As for Trevor Sikkema jinxing Cairo Santos on the podcast? Well, it wasn’t just you guys on Twitter beating him up for jinxing Santos. Scott Reynolds and I both shot him a glare in the press box after Santos clanked his first field goal attempt off the right upright. The good news is, we didn’t fire him. Mainly because Reynolds and I have no idea how to run the equipment for the podcast, so he stays out of necessity.

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Mark Cook currently is the director of editorial content and Bucs beat writer and has written for PewterReport.com since 2011. Cook has followed the Buccaneers since 1977 when he first began watching football with his Dad and is fond of the 1979 Bucs team that came within 10 points of going to a Super Bowl. His favorite Bucs game is still the 1979 divisional playoff win 24-17 over the Eagles. In his spare time Cook enjoys playing guitar, fishing, surfing and family time at the beach. In addition, Cook can be found in front of a television or in Doak Campbell any time the FSU Seminoles are playing. Cook is a native of Pinecrest in Eastern Hillsborough County and has written for numerous publications including the Tampa Tribune, In the Field and Ya'll Magazine. Cook can be reached at [email protected]

48 COMMENTS

  1. The Bucs have tried a lot of things to fix the team since winning the Superbowl. Nothing has worked.
    You know what they haven’t tried?
    Not firing everybody every two to four years and starting over from scratch.
    Might be worth a shot. Call me crazy. . .

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    • Crazy!

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    • The way the offensive line quit yesterday says all you need to know about this coaching staff. They all need to go.

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    • Pete, you’re making sense again by bringing reason to this discussion. Crazy! This is a place for bitching, moaning, and calling for people to lose their jobs.

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    • I tend to agree. I’m not happy with the current coaching staff, but the players ARE playing for them. I wasn’t sold on Smith and Warhop before the season, but some of the coaches have done okay to good. I really, really don’t want yet another tear down and rebuild. Give them one more year, but if the Glazers want to be the Browns and throw another coaching staff under the bus and start over, well, it’s their franchise. I just hope if they do, they can finally get someone that will do better than the last 3 staffs have. Given their past record, I’m not overly hopeful (and no, it’s not a given that they can’t find some coach and GM that could do worse).

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      • You know, lost on many is that Koetter has done a lot of things right. He fixed our defensive coordinator problem. He benched Winston and got his head straight.
        And, I think Licht is a pretty decent drafter. He has two major screwups. Not picking James and getting a kicker in the second. Aside form those mistakes, I can’t really fault his drafting.
        As you point out, a lot of fault has to lie with the players. Maybe they’re the wrong guys. Maybe the bizarre on the field mistakes just come from a culture of losing. I dunno, but it’s not all Koetter and Licht’s fault.
        One more year and this team will amaze all the fans.

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        • Pete.. I wonder if you pay for season tkts ? How many years does it take??.. send them packing

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        • Pete,
          I love your positive outlook. I really do! I am not for change just for the sake of change but the improvements just aren’t there. Koetter waited too long to make a change at D Coordinator. He has been wishy washy about play calling. He has made many errors on time management and his in-game adjustments either don’t work or he is just not making them! The Team still playing hard is a product of them being paid professionals who SHOULD still be playing hard. I think it is in spite of Koetter not because of him.

          Jason Licht, and I finally have to admit, has made too many FA errors hurting this Team’s salary cap options. His draft is beyond suspect.

          It does not get any better from here with this Leadership Team. Last year, we said “let’s have continuity”. Keep Koetter and the Leadership Team. We have regressed. I don’t want to go through this again either but this is truly the definition of insanity. If we wait one more draft and one more year this thing could get a lot worse as much as it could improve as you state.

          Just my opinion….I love this Team. I always have and always will want what’s best but I don’t think Koetter and Licht offer that up.

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        • Pete,
          I don’t necessarily think Licht’s drafting issue is a “major screwup” issue. It is more so that he doesn’t have any 2nd/3rd/4th round guys that have made contributions to the team besides Kwon and Marpet really. His 1st round picks have not been great. Jameis has been a roller coaster the last 4 years, Howard was a good pick, Hargreaves has been battling injuries but his rookie year was less than impressive. Vea’s first 10 games this year have not shown a whole lot of promise. And not to mention the free agent fails from Licht. It’s time for the Glazers to make a change

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          • I appreciate all the personal responses. This is a pretty passionate issue for Bucs fans. It’s pretty clear we’re split into two camps right now with some folks on the fence.
            I do not have season tickets and actually have never had season tickets for any sports teams. BUT, if I did, I’d be pretty annoyed.
            I think there is a pretty steep learning curve for head coaches and Koetter is learning. I looked at Bill Belichick’s numbers the other day. He’s been a head coach for twenty eight years. He had losing records for five out of his first six seasons. After five years the Browns fired him. He had a losing record the first year with the Patriots and hasn’t had a losing record since.
            If we were Cleveland fans in 1995 I reckon we’d be screaming for him to be fired too. How often have Browns fans regretted that decision?
            Not saying Koetter is Belichick. Just saying that sometimes it’s not all the coaches fault. Belichick became Belichick when he learned from his mistakes and when he had a decent franchise and players.
            It’s not all the fault of Koetter and Licht, y’all.
            Go Bucs!

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    • People like mediocre coaching I guess..haven’t you all seen enough of koetter’s mistakes? Look back throughout his time here and you will find plenty of dumb mistakes he continuously makes..(time management, challenge flags, improper adjustments) the team may “fight” hard for koetter but that doesn’t mean anything when we are still a losing team. He’s not the worst in the world but he certainly isn’t great either..people wanted him out last year but I felt like another season was needed and now we are back at the end of another losing season.

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    • When you have a coach that punts on 4th and 2 at his own 40, who also shows no emotion thru out the game, who looks at times dazed and confused on the sidelines, who cant control a teams emotions on the sidelines and who’s playbook has looked worse than mike shula’s days here, then yes……change is needed.

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    • Yeah, the other extreme is whatever the heck the Cincinnati Bengals ownership is doing. I think a lot of it will come down to if the Glazers feel that the team will play for Koetter and I suppose some wins at the end of another lost season would signal something positive.

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  2. It is definitely time to replace Demar Dotson. He is 33 years old playing on bum knees, it looks like he cannot keep up with the speed of the game. Also why in the world have they not put Cappa in at right guard, Benonach is going to get someone killed

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  3. Since we are out of the playoff picture see if D. Smith can play LG and move Marpet to RG. Liedtke should be given a shot at LT and Wester at RT with Cappa as his backup. If that works give D. Smith a Guard contract which will save a lot of money over a LT Contract. The Glazers need to be looking for a good OL Coach to take over Warhop’s job. Notice he didn’t say a word to Jensen for his penalties until Jameis had to do so. Then Warhop jumped on Jameis and finally did his job and only then lectured Jensen. Warhop does not hold anyone accountable and doesn’t develop players and has no clue who to play where. He is worthless.

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  4. I think PR is being way too sympathetic in their tone with Dirk Koetter’s job, Mark. Hope is lost with Dirk Koetter coaching this team. I see no development going on at all… not just with players but with this culture too. And Dirk Koetter is the main catalyst.

    “Oh but his offense saves him” some say. Bologna! His play-calling makes everybody look bad. His offensive scheme is not good as its staples lack inventiveness (seem routes, hitch routes, go-routes, etc). His stubborn “commitment to the run” is simply a narrative he spews that basically keeps the ball out of our BEST playmakers. I even think you said it very well in another article about the definition of insanity.

    I just hope fans quit visiting Buc media sites now. I hope none of the fans show up for the Falcons game. I hope the Glazers will be pressured more and more to give away tickets… not just for the Falcons’ game but next year too if Koetter is still here.

    PR’s tone is so sympathetic for Koetter right now that you have to start to wonder if you guys (among other media outlets) are getting some kind of incentive for being that way. The Glazers give a directive? Licht? Who cares. It’s sickening to have a sympathetic tone for Dirk Koetter’s chances to coach next year. He should’ve been fired after the Washington game.

    The Glazers lack the vision and enthusiasm to get rid of a loser when they NEED to. It’s tough for them. They’ll always be compared to Malcolm in a negative light until they change the culture over there. They keep doing the same thing by letting losers like Dirk Koetter finish a season. What’s the definition of insanity again? Well, that’s why that winning culture will never be at One Buc Place. It’s insanity to let Dirk Koetter (and loser coaches like him) to finish a season when you know he’s not qualified to be Head Coach of the Tampa Bay Bucs. Not only is he unqualified, but he has shown explicitly that he cannot adjust. Cannot change. Always goes back to bad habits. Much like the Glazer boys.

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    • “Ron” is such a beautiful name.

      In case you hadn’t noticed; Bucs fans already don’t show up at our “home” games. I can assure you, the organization is well aware. Only thing that will change it is a winning team……..first. It’s the only thing that will bring some excitement to the “in-stadium experience” and increase fan participation. Not a new GM, not a new coaching staff, not a new QB, not some draft choice, not some free agent. We here in Bucville have been duped too many times to, as Scott Brantley would say, “hoodwink” us now.

      The Glazer family will, as they and we should, wait until the end of the Falcons game and probably after Christmas before making any changes. I for one, hope they are already doing some research and have some sort of plan for doing what they and we “know” will work and not one we just “hope” will work. Doubtful any middle of the night shockers will happen again. One thing is certain, there will be no in-house promotions. The new hire(s) will need to, at the very least, give us reason to think winning is on the way.

      I know this much. The more it changes, the more it stays the same.

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      • “I know this much. The more it changes, the more it stays the same.”

        Agree, which is why I recommended that the Glazers do something different. Something that signifies a change from within (as Trevor wrote about in a recent article).

        I remember Malcolm’s gutsy move of trading a lot of capital to get Gruden. It was a drastic and uncommon measure. For this generation of Glazers, I suggest the firing of Koetter during the season as a shift from their modus-operandi as it could potentially lead a change from within… a shock to the heart of the organization. But it is what it is. #itsabucslife

        The current generation of Glazers will continually be compared to their father among Buc nation in a negative light until they start winning. If the definition of insanity is to keep repeating what doesn’t work, then they should seriously consider firing a Head Coach during a season as waiting till ends of seasons prolong irreparable damage. Seems too late now. The Monday after the Washington game seemed to be perfect timing.

        Maybe not the best example, but look at Ryan Smith. We held on to Mike Smith so long he can’t get off-coverage out of his system. Will he ever? Is it too late?

        Look at Ryan Jensen. What was once a top 10 center in Baltimore is now a bottom 10 center with us.

        There are too many examples to write of. When you hang on to bad coaches for too long the damage becomes irreparable. It truly is a losing culture.

        Not sure if there’s hope for Koetter here. Some say one more year and just fire Warhop because Duffner is showing to be a good DC. Monken seems to be a better play-caller from what I can tell but it seems Koetter interferes too much (seems that way for this last half of the season as the first two games of the season where the OL performed as a top 5 unit in the NFL, Monken was calling the plays). Who outside the organization knows? I’d have to be there weekly to say with confidence but from the outside, this is what I’m seeing and hearing.

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  5. We also need a RB who can open his own holes and replace Barber when he is hurt and also can play as a third down back to block for Jameis and be an outlet receiver. I think Cross should be tried as that person or bring 44 back and develop him to do so. He showed some good speed running back kicks.

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  6. Same old story with the kicking game – we are in a position where we are forced to hold onto someone that hurt this program because there is no better alternative. And I’m just talking about @TampaBayTre.

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  7. aStrayPirate, our current kicker is great at extra points and kicks under 40 yards. Either Koetter needs to have the Offense play on 4th down in the opponent’s territory 40 yards back or hire a second Kicker who can kick 60 yard field goals but is no good on extra points. Seems like we fired a young one with that problem awhile back.

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    • Much like our kicker, you missed the point. My comment wasn’t criticizing Santos – it was a lighthearted dig at Trevor.

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  8. December 10th, 2018 at 10:33 am
    The only thing I know about HC, Coordinators, position coaches is their tenure, Salary Win/loss record, and of course where they have been. So what I am saying is unlike a player performance, I don’t know much about coaching or the selection of one. It seems that whoever would WANT to come to small market, perennial loser Tampa would only do so for money, total control, or a serious mental deficiency. The only other reason might be the sandy beaches, strip clubs, warm weather and cigars. Seriously if you look at our record, ownership, fan base and average tenure this is the ultimate terrible place to end, improve, or start a coaching career. With the exception of Gruden and Dungy over 42 years this has been the burial ground for Coaches. Gruden won a SB over the Raiders (the team he coached the year before) that were basically the result of Years of Dungy development. We’ve had coaches like Parcells use us as leverage for other jobs. So when I hear Mc Carthy, or
    Rivera, Cower et al. I don’t get too excited. Some OC or College coach at best and another three years of rebuilding and losing. One might wonder if we should be careful what we wish for.

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  9. The recent successes of first time coaches like Nagy Bears, Varbel Titans, Reight Colts, tells us firing Koetter is a must. Look it how bad we beat the Bears last year. This year with a new coach, and good F.A. pick ups they destroyed us. Starting over has proved with the teams mentioned isn’t a set back, but a shot in the arm. This team needs a fresh set of eyes from the G.M., to the H.C.. Mark I really have to question your knowledge when you think Dotson has another year left in him. He should be replaced tomorrow just to see if someone else in house can be his replacement. I haven’t seen enough of R.Jones to call him a bust. I do know that Koetter didn’t play D. Freeman as a rookie in Atl, and the following year after Dirk, and Smitty were fired Freeman became one of the most dangerous backs in the NFL. Koetter did the same thing sticking with Martin over Barber last year. Koetter does not trust, or play young backs, it’s on him, not them. I like others have to question why P.R. hasn’t called for regime change yet, like they’ve had in the past. It’s so obvious Koetter, and Licht need to go. They’ve had enough time to prove they are in capable of fielding a no better then a .500 ball club.

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  10. So many issues….

    Has to start at the top. Time to move on from Licht and Koetter. I like Koetter, but just don’t think he’s a HC. Licht has done so poorly on critical draft and FA decisions its hard to justify keeping him. Sure, he’s done well in the secondary market with undrafted guys, but on where things count he’s been terrible.

    Not sure about what to go after first in terms of players, but it has to start with O line. Continue to upgrade D line and then work the D backfield.

    Regarding RB, I put R Jones in there and run him until he drops. But rather than run him the off right tackle, which is apparently the ONLY call we ever see, how about designing some plays to leverage his skill. The guy has talent, how about we try to put him in a situation to succeed. And by the way – we have no running game because Koetter could care less about it. He’s a pass first, second and third coach.

    It starts at the top. Time to clean house.

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    • It start with the owners.

      If he puts RoJo in there fans with have a meltdown as nearly every run will be a 5 yard loss. Many complain about DJax not wanting to take hit, yet we can’t even use RoJo for an end around because he’s too timid. That just not acceptable for a back particularly for one that doesn’t have good hand or decent blocking ability.

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      • Completely agree, but run him until he cries uncle. He stands up to it or stands down. And if he stands down, we know and can cut him and move on.

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  11. I hate to break it to you, but Koetter is gone. I don’t care if he wins the next 3 games. (I expect the team to lose all three games mind you.) Here’s the reason why – Koetter cannot win a meaningful game PERIOD. He had a game that mattered yesterday and could not figure out how to win the game, and please don’t go down the road that the Aints were “just better”. It’s complete nonsense. Tell me this – Who’s better Miami or NE? Chicago or the Rams? It’s about coaching and preparing your team. Koetter fails at this. I’m sure I’ll get a bunch of thumbs-down hits for this, but it’s a fact. We get out coached every week.

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    • So the game just one week ago against Carolina was meaningless?

      I’m pretty sure that Koetter’s team won that game.

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  12. I don’t know what they will do, but I’m confident the Glazer’s boys will screw it up based off past performance. They just aren’t Malcolm. They made of mess of Manchester as well.

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  13. Predicting what the Baby Glazers will do is tricky – but they seem to rely a LOT on temporary fan passions as expressed in the media (in the old days, letters to the editor of the major print rags, today, social media and website comment pages). They seem to flail a lot because of that, because the passion of the mob is a very bad way to run anything, including an NFL franchise.

    If I had my wishes for the Baby Glazers it is that they swallow their pride, and go hat in hand (as if anybody wears hats anymore) and go solicit the old Dutch Uncle advice thing from a several of the other NFL owners who have clearly been successful for a long time. Talk to Art Rooney, to Bob Kraft.

    Stay to hell away from the losers, of course, I don’t have to mention those but the worst of the worst has a team named after an earth tone color.

    Get their advice on how to pick a President of Football Operations who has the capacity to deliver the Buccaneers franchise from their current state of suckiness. It is in the interests of leaders in the ownership community to promote better leaders, because better teams make the whole league look better to consumers … particularly if these old gray hairs are helping someone who is not in the same conference or division!

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    • This is a well thought out point. This all starts with the Glazers.

      Good idea and good post Naples!

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  14. Thanks Mark for your opinion even though
    I disagree with it. If I am the Glazers, I would have been on the phone this morning instructing Licht to fire Koetter and report back to me when it’s been done; then I would fire Licht.

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    • Is that kinda like Mom making you go pick your own switch??? LMAO I like the idea!

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    • If it were me I’d be on the phone firing Licht. Then start work building a new regime from the top down.

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  15. Trade GMC for a 2nd.
    Trade number 1 for Jalen Ramsey.
    Draft a LT at 2. Move Donovan Smith to right tackle.
    Draft a DT with other 2nd.

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  16. Mark…they can’t GIVE tickets away. There’s no way Dirk returns. If they get to 8-8, maybe, but this area has about had it, and Dirk has shown he’s not a strong or inspiring leader.

    As for Smith…his season has been so bad this year I don’t think he’s really getting paid anywhere. We should bring him back as a right tackle. The fact Licht ever though he was a LT is just another egregious failure.

    And Jonah Williams and Greg Little are coming out, the tackles in the draft are fine.

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  17. Koetter is horrible and he needs to go. I hate changing regimes every few years too but this guy is not good. I don’t see improvement where you would expect. He is always out coached in second halves of games it seems. He is very stubborn in play calling and not trying something different year after year with the defense being a joke.

    The second half of the Saints game was hard to watch. I don’t understand how you can’t run the ball two years in a row with different o line too but anyways Koetter doesn’t play O line but that was just pathetic. A team should not be able to Hold you down to no points in a half in this offense favoring NFL today. Especially after we whipped them first half!!!!They were playing cover 2 which took deep ball away and they covered up the underneath routes with man. Ok Koetter how about oh I don’t know maybe WR all run short routes since we can’t run the damn ball until Saints back off the man underneath? He just continues to do the same exact thing and will not adjust period. He even said there really isn’t much adjusting it’s just who executes better? That’s BS you think the Patriots and other teams don’t adjust? I’m so tired of this clown. He is horrible.

    Licht is not great but you can make a decent argument (and Pewter Report did) on why to keep him little longer.

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  18. Yes agree with you 100% Smith is too slow and inconsistent to be a LT. Another failure by this team and regime. RT may actually work for him and isn’t a bad idea really. He sure the hell isnt getting it done at LT.

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  19. The biggest problem here starts with the GM. Look at the job his ex assistant is doing in Tennessee. He is the one that should be guiding the direction of this team. Providing the players the offense needs to be successful.
    So far he has failed to do that. He bought into the Mike Smith idea of big slow run stopping linemen. which brought us Allen, Unrein and Vita. Which hasn’t been able to stop the run.
    As for Koetter, Suferdude is right. It is not RoJo but the coach that won’t give him any run. Thats just who he is. The other issue is that, he is very poor on in game and halftime adjustments. He just goes with the plays that they seemed to have game planned with. Thats not enuff to get the job done. If your receivers are having issues getting open, use some motion to help them. The only guy that ever moves in this offense is the slot receiver. Which makes them easier to game plan for. As we all watched this weekend the thing that stood out the most, outside of the poor line play, is that our offense has no real crossing routes or any deception to it. There were no screen plays to slow the rush. No rollouts. Just dropback and pass or hand off.
    This is the big problem with this team. The inability to do something different when needed.

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  20. Agree and just said same thing. Krudder doesn’t or can’t adjust. Winston throws very well on the move but like you said no roll outs. No screens. Just keep dropping back to chuck it when you know this O line sucks. That is stupid.

    You know what the no difference was first time played New Orleans? Krudder wasn’t calling plays Monken was. Lol.

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  21. Meant what big difference was lol

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  22. God for once I want to come here and not have a comment section frothing at the mouth with hot takes. This team has shown it can fight and it’s some pieces away. Just go and get those pieces, don’t burn the whole damn house down trying to fix the front door. This team looks like it’s finding itself especially defensively now so let’s say for the sake of argument they finish 7-9 like PR has talked about.

    If I was in charge I’d cut Warhop, Nate Kaczor and Tim Spencer. If I like what I see in Butch Barry we can give him a 1-year prove-it deal to replace Warhop.

    Then go to Koetter and say “Mr. Koetter, this year has been a disappointment. I’m very troubled in particular with some of your decision making on the staff front. However, I can see where this team can move forward. The injuries have also been quite unkind this year as well. I have the intent to retain you this year, but I will be clear that next year is do-or-die no matter what, A winning season or you’re dismissed.”

    Next up is Licht. “Mr. Licht, what I said to Koetter applies to you as well. It’s up to you to correct the weaknesses of the roster however it takes. One year. Get it done.”

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  23. Koetter admits he has no idea how to fix it. He is too stubborn to let his OC who does know how to improve the playcalling to take that over permanently. He is unwilling to fire his OLC Warhop who has been a complete bust. He keeps Rogers as his third down back who is too small to stop a blitz and can’t open holes when he runs. Mind you he has Cross who is a big blocker who also can open holes when he runs and can catch passes as an outlet on third down too. He has no idea how to make changes at halftime, and hangs Jameis out to dry by calling 5 second long passes when Jameis only has two seconds before being clobbered. He never calls a trick play. His running plays behind his awful OL don’t work. He had 44 who was big enough to sub for Barber when Barber is hurt but cuts him and then had no answer when Barber couldn’t run anymore with his injured ankle which then let the Saints Pass rush us to death in our second half. He watched 56 get penalized for blocking in the back game after game and was a screw up but failed to cut him and then in this past game 56 again blocked in the back and ruined a great run and then failed to block his man on the kick and that man blocked our kick and permanently switched the momentum in our game. Koetter is too dumb to bring back as HC next year. Sorry but he is done and must be fired.

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  24. Blow….it….up. Our fearless “Trio”, is 10-24 in the last 34 games. Don’t care about suspension. Suspension…. Winston’s fault. His injuries…should have come back and shown how valuable he was while he was missing. Did that happen? No. With the first year of Koetter being a wash at 9-7, did we get better? No. Did the draft picks help? Not really. Ridiculously overpaid D line. Did that help? Not really. If it wasn’t for Pierre Paul, this line would be an abomination. I’m trying to stay positive, but the outlook is not good. Not saying anything that everyone shouldn’t know already. Blow……it…….up, or we will be having the same conversation next December. Seriously. Front office, staff, coach. Too many short memories with some of you. I can think of 6-7 games, where we looked completely overwhelmed. No match. Last weekend showed how far behind we are to the best team in the division. That always changes. Next year it will be Carolina. Then Atlanta. And so on. Blow it up.

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  25. I do like Nassib though. He’s tough. Glad Cleveland found him. 😉

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  26. 10-19. Sorry my autocorrect went yanky. Still…. it’s right there. Is that good? Just laying it out there

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  27. I like consistency but someone must have vision. In the 2017 Free Agency and Draft, Licht and Koetter had a rare team building opportunity. They blew it. They had the money to sign LT Andrew Whitworth who went to the 4-12 LA Rams and made First-Team All-Pro. They had the opportunity to draft LT/RT Ryan Ramczyk who made the All-Rookie Team for the Saints. Instead, they used the money to sign DJax and the draft pick to take Howard. I like DJax, but we got Godwin. I like Howard, but we had Brate. Donovan Smith and Dotson could have competed at tackle and guard. I never saw the genius in the Marpet at center idea. But, between Marpet and Evan Smith, you had enough to work with at center and guard. What a different team this might be with an OL that can run block, extend drives and take pressure off of the defense.

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