Honestly and I know it’s easy to pile on but the Bowles hate but one of two things will happen
1) the team quit on Bowles last year and will continue to be rudderless, Bucs will miss playoffs yet again
2) the offense bounces back led by Robinson play calling and a baker bounce back and Bucs return to playoffs
you’ll notice no mention of Bowles defense in the positive scenario
Yeah, it's no coincidence that Bowles best record came when he had the 4th scoring offense led by Duuuuuuuuuval.
Also not a coincidence we played a competitive second game when the OC didn’t muck up the wild card round.
Seems like a trend with Duval. ETN and Tuten combined for 14 carries for 158 yards. Why only 14 carries? 37 passes called and 2 jet sweeps. Must have been the defenses fault.
First, the RB's didn't combine for 158 yards. The entire fuggin' team didn't run for 158 yards. Second, the $275M QB and his 30 QBR was the biggest culprit in the loss.
I bet it really burns you up that the guy you've spent years telling everyone was overrated won more games (13) in his first season as a HC than Todd Bowles (10) has in his entire 8-year career. That's all assuming you have a modicum of shame, which isn't looking like a good assumption.
But sure, every win was the defense and every loss was on the offense. Todd Bowles' defense is the secret sauce to this team winning football games, even though in seven years as the guy calling the defense, his scoring unit has been better than the offense only twice.
Mistyped. ETN and Tuten had 14 carries for 118 yards, 8.4 ypc. There isn’t any excuse for Coen to so pass happy in that game. But it was a major problem for us in 2024 so it’s not a surprise.
But it was a major problem for us in 2024 so it’s not a surprise.
Yeah.
Major problem.
The offense last year, that Todd self-admittedly had a huge hand in, was SOOOOO much better.
There isn’t any excuse for Coen to so pass happy in that game. But it was a major problem for us in 2024 so it’s not a surprise.
13-4 sure surprised the hell outta you.
But it was a major problem for us in 2024 so it’s not a surprise.
Yeah.
Major problem.
The offense last year, that Todd self-admittedly had a huge hand in, was SOOOOO much better.
Major problem.
1st and 10 up 17-13 in the 4th in a playoff game he couldn’t just call a run, had to call a jet sweep.
2nd and 1 after a 9 yard run he couldn’t just call a run. Had to a call a RPO that Otton fucked up.
But it was a major problem for us in 2024 so it’s not a surprise.
Yeah.
Major problem.
The offense last year, that Todd self-admittedly had a huge hand in, was SOOOOO much better.
Major problem.
1st and 10 up 17-13 in the 4th in a playoff game he couldn’t just call a run, had to call a jet sweep.
2nd and 1 after a 9 yard run he couldn’t just call a run. Had to a call a RPO that Otton fucked up.
i don't think the jet sweep call was bad but the Bowles Derangement Syndrome crew are convinced those two plays are actually on Bowles' defense.
But it was a major problem for us in 2024 so it’s not a surprise.
Yeah.
Major problem.
The offense last year, that Todd self-admittedly had a huge hand in, was SOOOOO much better.
Major problem.
1st and 10 up 17-13 in the 4th in a playoff game he couldn’t just call a run, had to call a jet sweep.
2nd and 1 after a 9 yard run he couldn’t just call a run. Had to a call a RPO that Otton fucked up.
And, yet, we go from a Top-5 offense to one that’s bottom half of the league.
Not to mention a defense that actually got worse.
But, hey, he’s a super duper nice guy. And, the real thrill of the NFL isn’t winning. It’s the unknown chapters of the storybook that’s still to come.
Just some communication issues. This is the year we’ll get it fixed!
The offense when Coen and Grizzard were under control were putting up TDs through the passing game against high caliber opponents. But when the Bucs were going run heavy with Coen or Grizzard it tended to slow down the team's ability to put up points. Bowles insistence on ball control last season down the stretch really hurt this team. This team lives or dies with the offense scoring points.
Genuine question just because I am curious. Do you think Bowles is a good head coach @bucsbits and if so, why?But it was a major problem for us in 2024 so it’s not a surprise.
Yeah.
Major problem.
The offense last year, that Todd self-admittedly had a huge hand in, was SOOOOO much better.
Major problem.
1st and 10 up 17-13 in the 4th in a playoff game he couldn’t just call a run, had to call a jet sweep.
2nd and 1 after a 9 yard run he couldn’t just call a run. Had to a call a RPO that Otton fucked up.
i don't think the jet sweep call was bad but the Bowles Derangement Syndrome crew are convinced those two plays are actually on Bowles' defense.
The guy is an average to poor head coach statistically. He holds a 61–74 in the regular season and 1–3 in the playoffs. In his time here, he has fielded 1 great to really good defense and 1 good defense. While I will not say he has anything much to do with the offensive debacle that occurred last season, I will say his boneheaded decision-making was most definitely part of the root cause as to why the team failed so miserably down the stretch. Just the actual practice versus walkthrough mess was a "fireable" offense. No head coach worth anything would do something so asinine. This generation of coaches wouldn't do it. Previous generation of coaches wouldn't do it. And past great era of coaches wouldn't do it.
Curious what makes Bowles a good coach in the mind of others. Count me out. I think the guy is an overrated buffoon that keeps an ever-stupid, ever-confused look on his face because he doesn't know how to gameplan in today's NFL. If that means I have BDS, then so be it. Check me into the asylum.
Do you think Bowles is a good head coach @bucsbits and if so, why?
Not really, no. I have posted before that he is/was a good coach for the circumstances, which I see as a team primarily focused on financial correction.
I see the Glazers and Licht seeing Bowles as helping the team stay relevant (Canales, Coen, Mayfield) when they were prepared for a definite down period (Trask). I think that loyalty to him for navigating 2022-2024 led them to make a weird decision at the end of 2025 when he should've been fired.
the one thing I might add to that "weird decision" theory is that it might have been only part loyalty and part an understanding that they still had to deal with the departures of Evans, David etc. I've referred to Bowles as the custodial coach for this reason, sort of the internal candidate who would accept the HC job with the current constraints.
I will say his boneheaded decision-making was most definitely part of the root cause as to why the team failed so miserably down the stretch
This is why I say it was a particularly weird decision to keep him. To me the "run it 30 times" Panthers game seabed out as a terrible game plan concept and it was 100% his plan.
The offense when Coen and Grizzard were under control were putting up TDs through the passing game against high caliber opponents. But when the Bucs were going run heavy with Coen or Grizzard it tended to slow down the team's ability to put up points. Bowles insistence on ball control last season down the stretch really hurt this team. This team lives or dies with the offense scoring points.
Which games are you referring too?
But when the Bucs were going run heavy with Coen or Grizzard it tended to slow down the team's ability to put up points
The 2025 Jaguars scored almost 10 points per game more than the 2024 Jaguars and they did that in large part by running more (even though slightly less efficient)
effective running does not slow down scoring. Effective running enhances scoring.
But it was a major problem for us in 2024 so it’s not a surprise.
Yeah.
Major problem.
The offense last year, that Todd self-admittedly had a huge hand in, was SOOOOO much better.
Major problem.
1st and 10 up 17-13 in the 4th in a playoff game he couldn’t just call a run, had to call a jet sweep.
2nd and 1 after a 9 yard run he couldn’t just call a run. Had to a call a RPO that Otton fucked up.
And, yet, we go from a Top-5 offense to one that’s bottom half of the league.
Not to mention a defense that actually got worse.
But, hey, he’s a super duper nice guy. And, the real thrill of the NFL isn’t winning. It’s the unknown chapters of the storybook that’s still to come.
Just some communication issues. This is the year we’ll get it fixed!
Wonder if that had anything to do with Michael Jordan, Dan Feeney, Ben Chukwuma, Andy Heck, Luke Haggard and Elijah Klein playing 2,345 offensive snaps.
Seems like a GM problem to me.
But it was a major problem for us in 2024 so it’s not a surprise.
Yeah.
Major problem.
The offense last year, that Todd self-admittedly had a huge hand in, was SOOOOO much better.
Major problem.
1st and 10 up 17-13 in the 4th in a playoff game he couldn’t just call a run, had to call a jet sweep.
2nd and 1 after a 9 yard run he couldn’t just call a run. Had to a call a RPO that Otton fucked up.
And, yet, we go from a Top-5 offense to one that’s bottom half of the league.
Not to mention a defense that actually got worse.
But, hey, he’s a super duper nice guy. And, the real thrill of the NFL isn’t winning. It’s the unknown chapters of the storybook that’s still to come.
Just some communication issues. This is the year we’ll get it fixed!
Wonder if that had anything to do with Michael Jordan, Dan Feeney, Ben Chukwuma, Andy Heck, Luke Haggard and Elijah Klein playing 2,345 offensive snaps.
Seems like a GM problem to me.
Lol.
Per usual, NOTHING is EVER the fault of Bowles.
NOTHING.
Fact is, you were DEAD WRONG about Liam. And, it played out in real time every week last year.
We would’ve been a significantly better team last season with him at the helm.
Fuck the Glazers.
The 2-7 finish to the 2025 season was unacceptable and an epic failure by all three phases of the game, and that's on the HC.