Yeah, he was kinda ugly in that 3rd & 28 that ran M1K3 out of town.Yes, then let’s cover our desire for “The Last Manning”, by saying we were actually for Baker, before we decided to blame him for those last 660 minutes of last season.Yeah, sacrifice the QB because he won games on his own, then saddle him with the results…somehow doesn’t quite look logical…but you guys do you.
We’ll see how it plays out.
Yeah.
But, what about the last 660 minutes of football he played?
Remember…
“hE wAs tHe mAiN rEaSoN fOr tHe cOlLaPsE”!!!!
Its goofy. We’re going to pay him, we’re just deciding how long and how much he gets paid, and trying to do it in a way that preserves some cap room for necessary players. Baker’s going to be our QB beyond 2027.
I get it, folks are struggling to keep conversations going through quiet time.
yeah 3-8 is great. Sign me up for more of that!
Doesn’t Baker’s worst season passing yardage in 2025 still qualify as 5th or 6th best in franchise history?
Something Like that.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or those that haven’t been watching as long as we have.
Evans respected baker so much he left for Purdy
you think he leaves if Brady still here. Not a chance
Imagine being the slow type that think W/L is a QB stat.
Window lickers...
I thought baker played lights out in that eagles playoff win and that he deserves credit for the win
Imagine being the slow type that think W/L is a QB stat.
Window lickers...
I thought baker played lights out in that eagles playoff win and that he deserves credit for the win
Oh, you're saying the game between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Baker Mayfield's?
Yeah, I can't seem to find it anywhere.
Buccaneer Mayfield than the larger sample of 2023, 2024 and 2025 (inclusive of the first 6 games)
During his ENTIRE tenure with the Bucs, and not the cherry picked bullshit, he's ranked:
- 3rd in passing yards
- 2nd in passing TD's
- 6th in TD percentage
- 8th in YPG
- 4th in Total TD's
And, I'm willing to bet, this is where his agent is coming from (and has been doing since last offseason).
All of that is true, I assume - I didn’t confirm. But it is worth noting that there has been a lot of QB injuries to major players, including Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Dak, etc., that have missed time. Baker, Allen, & Goff are the only QB’s that have played every game in that time period. Kinda crazy with how much the QB is protected these days.
Now, that’s also a credit to Baker. He’s a tough SOB. But those nagging injuries he gets from his style of play are going to catch up with him sooner or later, especially with his age. He needs to play a little smarter so he can continue to stay on the field.
That's what I'm saying by my previous post. Baker may be on the fence with the bucs because putting your body on the line and not going anywhere because you have a head coach with a limit of success and we do have that we just don't know what the limit is because of the injuries but some of us already know it's not much better with a healthy roster. I would not be shocked if he had to be MVP baker this year many times and leaves because overall we came up empty handed. Being MVP enough will get him a new contract but I have a hard time seeing it with the bucs if he has to be that way too much again. It's not really sustainable for him or the bucs.
Been watching a bit longer, but it is why I said “we” - you want to stretch it out, for whatever logic that reasoning has in it, I prefer to strike while a bargain can be had now, so we can keep one or more set pieces in the future… but folks will be leaving, either on their own, or through cap limitations. There will be more options if you sign Baker now. Let it get outside of this year, he then gets added to the mix. He’s the one those who want to squeeze out every last “win” - don’t think is expendable. Keep doing it until there’s a better option. Been through one too many lost decades, no thanks.Yeah, he was kinda ugly in that 3rd & 28 that ran M1K3 out of town.Yes, then let’s cover our desire for “The Last Manning”, by saying we were actually for Baker, before we decided to blame him for those last 660 minutes of last season.Yeah, sacrifice the QB because he won games on his own, then saddle him with the results…somehow doesn’t quite look logical…but you guys do you.
We’ll see how it plays out.
Yeah.
But, what about the last 660 minutes of football he played?
Remember…
“hE wAs tHe mAiN rEaSoN fOr tHe cOlLaPsE”!!!!
Its goofy. We’re going to pay him, we’re just deciding how long and how much he gets paid, and trying to do it in a way that preserves some cap room for necessary players. Baker’s going to be our QB beyond 2027.
I get it, folks are struggling to keep conversations going through quiet time.
yeah 3-8 is great. Sign me up for more of that!
Doesn’t Baker’s worst season passing yardage in 2025 still qualify as 5th or 6th best in franchise history?
Something Like that.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or those that haven’t been watching as long as we have.
fan since 2000 here
jameis winston is record holder for most quarterback records in Tampa. Surprised they jettisoned him (kidding but hopefully you see the point)
and comparing mayfield to say Brad Johnson even is apples and bowling balls as league is different now. Rule changes promoting the passing game, etc
Disclaimer: I agree that baker gives us best chance to win in 2026 and 2027, but luckily we don’t have to sign him until offseason
Somewhere between 3-5 years is likely the hang up.
We disagree on how we attack the problem. It’s not a small issue.
It could go either way, it shouldn’t, but it could.
No? It sounds precisely like what he did.Yeah, he was kinda ugly in that 3rd & 28 that ran M1K3 out of town.Yes, then let’s cover our desire for “The Last Manning”, by saying we were actually for Baker, before we decided to blame him for those last 660 minutes of last season.Yeah, sacrifice the QB because he won games on his own, then saddle him with the results…somehow doesn’t quite look logical…but you guys do you.
We’ll see how it plays out.
Yeah.
But, what about the last 660 minutes of football he played?
Remember…
“hE wAs tHe mAiN rEaSoN fOr tHe cOlLaPsE”!!!!
Its goofy. We’re going to pay him, we’re just deciding how long and how much he gets paid, and trying to do it in a way that preserves some cap room for necessary players. Baker’s going to be our QB beyond 2027.
I get it, folks are struggling to keep conversations going through quiet time.
yeah 3-8 is great. Sign me up for more of that!
Doesn’t Baker’s worst season passing yardage in 2025 still qualify as 5th or 6th best in franchise history?
Something Like that.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or those that haven’t been watching as long as we have.
Evans respected baker so much he left for Purdy
you think he leaves if Brady still here. Not a chance
He went to a better defense, One more likely/capable of stopping 3rd & 28.
Evans respected baker so much he left for Purdy
you think he leaves if Brady still here. Not a chance
Purdy or Shanahan? Better team?
sich a strange thing to use Brady as the example and suggest Evans stays if Brady (the GOAT) here but he didn't stay so that means it's on Baker? Talk about a stretch Put Bowles as the head coach with anyone but Brady Or just go down the current list Does Evans leave to go to the Rams with that HC/QB combo? Sure. Now make Bowles the Rams coach or Tua the QB?
Lets just all ignore the salary cap space as though it doesn't exist.
Lets just all ignore the salary cap space as though it doesn't exist.
Guess that goes for the Bucs as well, right?
I mean, they're currently working on an extension.
For me, last year's record shows Baker can't carry the team. He needs a good supporting cast. If he wants to break the bank with this contract, it won't go well for the Bucs if they can't afford talent around him.
For me, last year's record shows Baker can't carry the team. He needs a good supporting cast. If he wants to break the bank with this contract, it won't go well for the Bucs if they can't afford talent around him.
this is sort of how I see Mayfield
i think the market for that kind of QB is low 50s? Not sure but that's my guess
I’d agree with this assessment.For me, last year's record shows Baker can't carry the team. He needs a good supporting cast. If he wants to break the bank with this contract, it won't go well for the Bucs if they can't afford talent around him.
this is sort of how I see Mayfield
i think the market for that kind of QB is low 50s? Not sure but that's my guess
Been watching a bit longer, but it is why I said “we” - you want to stretch it out, for whatever logic that reasoning has in it, I prefer to strike while a bargain can be had now, so we can keep one or more set pieces in the future… but folks will be leaving, either on their own, or through cap limitations. There will be more options if you sign Baker now. Let it get outside of this year, he then gets added to the mix. He’s the one those who want to squeeze out every last “win” - don’t think is expendable. Keep doing it until there’s a better option. Been through one too many lost decades, no thanks.Yeah, he was kinda ugly in that 3rd & 28 that ran M1K3 out of town.Yes, then let’s cover our desire for “The Last Manning”, by saying we were actually for Baker, before we decided to blame him for those last 660 minutes of last season.Yeah, sacrifice the QB because he won games on his own, then saddle him with the results…somehow doesn’t quite look logical…but you guys do you.
We’ll see how it plays out.
Yeah.
But, what about the last 660 minutes of football he played?
Remember…
“hE wAs tHe mAiN rEaSoN fOr tHe cOlLaPsE”!!!!
Its goofy. We’re going to pay him, we’re just deciding how long and how much he gets paid, and trying to do it in a way that preserves some cap room for necessary players. Baker’s going to be our QB beyond 2027.
I get it, folks are struggling to keep conversations going through quiet time.
yeah 3-8 is great. Sign me up for more of that!
Doesn’t Baker’s worst season passing yardage in 2025 still qualify as 5th or 6th best in franchise history?
Something Like that.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or those that haven’t been watching as long as we have.
fan since 2000 here
jameis winston is record holder for most quarterback records in Tampa. Surprised they jettisoned him (kidding but hopefully you see the point)
and comparing mayfield to say Brad Johnson even is apples and bowling balls as league is different now. Rule changes promoting the passing game, etc
Disclaimer: I agree that baker gives us best chance to win in 2026 and 2027, but luckily we don’t have to sign him until offseason
Somewhere between 3-5 years is likely the hang up.
We disagree on how we attack the problem. It’s not a small issue.
It could go either way, it shouldn’t, but it could.
but you have yet to answer my question on Bargain for Baker
what in your eyes is a deal in both per year and number of years, Baker would accept now prior to the season?
I am thinking he wants 5 years, $275M. is this the bargain you speak of?
just want to understand what you are thinking in terms of contract to offer Baker now
