I’d say it would settle out at 4 years $212m - $220mBeen watching a bit longer, but it is why I said “we” - you want to stretch it out, for whatever logic that reasoning has in it, I prefer to strike while a bargain can be had now, so we can keep one or more set pieces in the future… but folks will be leaving, either on their own, or through cap limitations. There will be more options if you sign Baker now. Let it get outside of this year, he then gets added to the mix. He’s the one those who want to squeeze out every last “win” - don’t think is expendable. Keep doing it until there’s a better option. Been through one too many lost decades, no thanks.Yeah, he was kinda ugly in that 3rd & 28 that ran M1K3 out of town.Yes, then let’s cover our desire for “The Last Manning”, by saying we were actually for Baker, before we decided to blame him for those last 660 minutes of last season.Yeah, sacrifice the QB because he won games on his own, then saddle him with the results…somehow doesn’t quite look logical…but you guys do you.
We’ll see how it plays out.
Yeah.
But, what about the last 660 minutes of football he played?
Remember…
“hE wAs tHe mAiN rEaSoN fOr tHe cOlLaPsE”!!!!
Its goofy. We’re going to pay him, we’re just deciding how long and how much he gets paid, and trying to do it in a way that preserves some cap room for necessary players. Baker’s going to be our QB beyond 2027.
I get it, folks are struggling to keep conversations going through quiet time.
yeah 3-8 is great. Sign me up for more of that!
Doesn’t Baker’s worst season passing yardage in 2025 still qualify as 5th or 6th best in franchise history?
Something Like that.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, or those that haven’t been watching as long as we have.
fan since 2000 here
jameis winston is record holder for most quarterback records in Tampa. Surprised they jettisoned him (kidding but hopefully you see the point)
and comparing mayfield to say Brad Johnson even is apples and bowling balls as league is different now. Rule changes promoting the passing game, etc
Disclaimer: I agree that baker gives us best chance to win in 2026 and 2027, but luckily we don’t have to sign him until offseason
Somewhere between 3-5 years is likely the hang up.
We disagree on how we attack the problem. It’s not a small issue.
It could go either way, it shouldn’t, but it could.
but you have yet to answer my question on Bargain for Baker
what in your eyes is a deal in both per year and number of years, Baker would accept now prior to the season?
I am thinking he wants 5 years, $275M. is this the bargain you speak of?
just want to understand what you are thinking in terms of contract to offer Baker now
I think the Buc’s initial offer was likely 2 to 3 years, Baker will come back at 5, they’ll settle at 4.